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dayokanu:
Arshavin at 28 was bought for 15m GBP

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/feb/02/arsenal-zenit-transfer-window

Berbatov at 27 for 30mGBP

So Tymoschuk at 30 for 14million Euro or 12m GBP

Yaya Toure moved from Monaco and he was not an established and top ranked player at that time. Playing at Barca refined his game more and made him one of the best players in that position.

A guy bought for 15million led his team to UEFA cup and super cup victories as Captain one would expect the value of this player to have appreciated but Ulli got him for 14 a player ready to go not some "He would develop" players.

Thats a bargain to me

I dont get what you are driving at, will he become captain at bayern? Are you saying his gam is getting better at 30yrs+?
I brought up Yaya because both were bought in the same year. so who was the better buy?
It still early in the window, but I am sure we will soon see a few DMs of better quality move for less.

bawomolo:
we have cases in the US that are revoked when new technology or evidence came out.  those appeals are a necessary evil except of course he/she done it.

no system is perfect. A balance has to reached between finding justice and wasting resources.

so what are your standards, a serial rapist?

I am actually more interested in people that commit lethal crimes like assassination and armed robbery. I don't think we have any confirmed serial killers yet, else they would also qualify.

The legal system in Nigeria increases the risk innocent and typical poor people get the harshest punishment.

and that is why the judiciary needs to improve. That should not be an excuse to deny the option of capital punishment.

We can debate which offenses should warrant a life sentence as opposed to the death penalty, but the option for capital punishment should always be available.

mikeansy:
Biina

We can't choose when to apply the constitution and when not to

that's being lawless

the danger with that is that who decides when it is necessary and when it is not

In a country like ours where suspicion reins for legitimate reasons, the only way to ensure stability and civility is to have a law and stick to both the spirit and dictates of the law.

A law should not be a law if the society is unwilling to enforce.
Like the sabbath,  the constitution is for the people, and not the people for the constitution.
Before modifying an entry in the constitution, we should be able to test drive under the proposed amendment and thus not convert the constitution into a political worksheet.

Let the arms of government of government learn to make appointments primarily on merit, and then we can do away with FC.
Presently there is no evidence to suggest that its removal would not result in an abuse of the loop hole.

bawomolo:
Is the state commissioner doing his job or are there more qualified candidates?

If so petition to have him recalled (oh wait not in Nigeria) or force him to step down.

no solution is error proof so pick your poison

The option you provided are only viable in a system wherein the people have a voice. That (like you rightly pointed out) is not available to Nigerians yet, unless one approves of militancy which results in loss of lives and often fail to achieve their goals.

To pick my poison, I like the taste of the current one. When we have a more educated (not just learned) polity, and the office holders are responsive to the people, then we can do away with such as this, but to set off down the slope with no brakes is quite risky.

Bialegend:
Are you not awusa. So far as the status quo remains, for you and your people, there is no problem, not minding the set backs.

herein lies the source of our political problems. Since I disagreed with your post, the illogical conclusion is that I am from a particular region.

Bialegend:
I didn't see such rubbish and illiterate induced system in USA, Europe and other responsible countries even in Africa. So how do those protect the interest of all their citizens? or will proper ways of protecting all the interest of nigeria's citizens aprt from quota system continue to be alien to you and your brainless awusa clan?

In foreign countries it is given names like affirmative action and diversity
You should find time to read the book
Affirmative Action Around the World: An Empirical Study by Thomas Sowell.

blacksta:
Valid point but only in the context of countries like the U.s or any western european countries where the possiblity of a miscarrige of justice is non existent or vey low.

we should not create another problem in a bid to avoid solving the existing one. Hence I said the efforts should be towards improving the judiciary, and reducing the abuse of capital punishment.
I don't mean everyone should be executed, but the option of executing a felon should always be on the table.
There are accounts of several gruesome crimes in Lagos alone. Such criminals deserve to lose their head on a chopping block.

bawomolo:
it isn't, taking someone's life is not something you can take back. care has to be taken.

I agree that the decision should be taken with care. But prosecuting with care involves making sure that the case is beyond 'reasonable' doubt and does not equate to repeated appeals on technical grounds, that only serve to enrich the lawyers and waste the tax payers money

great humans getting snapped like chicken.

Like I said, there is nothing humane about killing. and nobody said it should be done in public.

what's the cutoff mark for someone that can be reformed and one that can't be?

The vagueness of the cutoff is the problem and thus the argument to keep some one alive hoping he reforms is faulty. While we don't know what he may do in the future, we are likely aware of what he has done in the past and that is what he is being punished for. Anyone guilty of an lethal crime is eligible for execution in my books. Should they all be executed? No, but definitely some do not deserve to keep their lives

bawomolo:
more autonomy?

would the same question not arise on a smaller scale?
e.g. can all state commissioners be of a particular tribe within a state?

bawomolo:
the long line of appeals used during death penalty cases are usually more expensive than housing unreformable prisoners for life.

Is the form of execution in Nigeria humane?  death by hanging or by firing squad is just plain barbaric.  In a country like Nigeria where the judicial system typically traps innocent victims (with little chance of appeal), the death penalty should be suspended for now.

its time for the Nigerian government to enforce the secular nature of it's constitution.

Your first sentence contradicts your second paragraph. It is either no chance of appeal or too many appeals; you cannot have both.

Numerous time consuming appeals of a sentence is a flaw in the judiciary and should be corrected. Unless they take forever, It should not be an excuse to keep alive someone who is a lethal threat to others in the society

As to forms of execution, there is nothing humane about killing. Saying one form is more humane than another is politicizing.  I personally feel that hanging is the best form of execution: its cheap and also environmentally friendly.

asha 80:
Were you not the one that wrote the above?So what interest is been protected?

I gave my opinion and have simply asked you to provide yours.

If it is removed, then how do you protect the interest of those not in power? militancy?

mikeansy:
well if someone is unqualified but is the first person from his state to be appointed, he surely can't be rejected on FC grounds

so he can only be disqualified for not being qualified

and I think if someone is unqualified, whatever makes them unqualified will be glaring

if Sanusi was an ex-footballer with no financial experience, it wont matter whether he is from Akwa Ibom or Kwara or Maduigri, he will be disqualified on arrival.

like I said, unqualified is easily dealt with. Incompetence is the troublesome fellow.
The fact that appointee are nominated by the president and then confirmed by the senate, puts the president in a position to bully the house, and without a constitution entry to support the senate, could get ugly real fast.
Take for example the Borishade saga under Obasanjo, in which obj essentially forced it down the throat of the house.
The federal character could serve as a check or as a requirement. The final judgment call is made by the senate, and I think using it as check is the right option.

asha 80:
So you really believe the country will develop with this nonsene?

simply answer the question

Bialegend:
Federal character/quota system was enacted and enshrined into the nigerian constitution with the sole aim of nothing but to term the Igbo people's merited dominance of nigerian sectors and in so doing arrest their development. Anyone who claims otherwise  must be an ostrich with it's head in the sand.

and where is your head at? Its people like you that peddle tribal sentiments that are the prime culprits of our failings.

asha 80:
We can as well introduce it in our bsports teams.For example the super eagles ,  nonsense.

If it is removed, then how do you protect the interest of those not in power? militancy?

Though I am less interested in the arguments presented in the article, I feel Nigeria needs to maintain capital punishment as an option.
Efforts should be towards improving the judiciary and reducing its abuse.

Some criminals simply deserve to die. I don't see the justice in keeping a criminal alive on the taxes of his victims, only in the vain hope of him becoming reformed, while risking his having an opportunity to claim more victims.
The only to be sure that a criminal would not repeat the act is to execute him.

Federal Character should remain in the constitution as its existence does not necessitate its enforcement. We should be able to overlook federal character if the person being appointed is the best choice.

The federal character was introduce to protect the interest of all, that none feel marginalized simply because the president is not from his state or region. The unfortunate truth is that the fact that someone from your hometown is in power, does not guarantee that he would act in the best interest of the common man from his town.Federal character is based on your ethnicity, and does not always reflect your allegiance.

As a democratic nation, we are still infants.The various arms of government are far from representing the wishes of the populace. To take of the leash on some of them is premature.

If it is abolished, reintroducing it when needed may not be easy, as by then the damage might be beyond repair.

mikeansy:
If someone is not qualified they are not qualified

the Senate don't need a borrowed law to reject the person.

Federal Character should be used for what Federal Character should be used for

If we think we dont need the law anymore then we need to scrap it

You dont choose when to or when not to abide by the constitution

If someone is unqualified, then the question of competency is moot. Making a case for denying someone on the basis of incompetency is likely more difficult. At times such provision can allow us to achieve the desired aim even if the law is applied disingenuously.
For example, Al Capone was sentence to life imprisonment for tax evasion, and not his dastardly acts, as the state had problems proving the latter.

@dayokanu
- Arshavin is 28 and was bought for €14m
- Schevchenko was 30 when chelsea bought him for €46.5m
- Berbatov was 27 when ManU got him for €36m
- zidane was 29 when joined madrid for €55m
so which of this buys do you think helps your argument? The 30yr old Schev?
Football history is riddled with over priced purchases, with ManU and Chelsea often found guilty. Do not try to use one over payment to justify another.

Yaya Toure joined Barca for €9m at age 24. is he not better than tymoschuk?

Tymoschuk's main asset to zenit was his leadership skills (he was captain of shakter donesk for several seasons and is vice captain of the Ukraine national team) that Advocaat needed for his inexperienced team, and thus soon after he was acquired he became captain of Zenit.
Bayern does not lack in the leadership department as Van Bommel, Lucio and Demichelis are good enough. As a player he is a nice addition to the bayern squad, giving them depth in the DM department but he is not worth more than €10m

and because 'peaceful' protesters were dispersed with tear gas in oakland, the US is a failed state?
There is a difference between a protest and a riot. Often in Nigeria, civil protest are hijacked by rioters.
If the protest is unlawful then the police have the right to disperse it.
Without being privy to the details of what occurred, one cannot automatically assume that the police was in the wrong.

I think the federal character should remain in the constitution for the time being, to serve as a legal check against tribalism and nepotism in federal appointments.
What I feel we need at the moment is that the senate evaluates nominees primarily on merit, and federal character only be used to deny appointment to incompetent ones.

Revoking someones appointment on the grounds of federal character is wrong. The issue should only come up at the time of appointment. If he has been in office, his continuance should be primarily based on his performance in the position.

agabaI23:
biina has nothing to say about Frank-C's contriubution?

I wish Sanusi goodluck.

I felt it better to simply ignore it.  Frank-C essentially says that stubbornness should be a key requirement for becoming CBN governor

The inability to make sound analysis and reach objective conclusion, is one of the banes of the Nigerian society.
Semi-illiteracy is dangerous, as one feels he knows what he does not know.

adigun101:
You cannot compare his resume to that of Soludo. First of all soludo is a proffessor while my man just has an MSc in Economics like my brother except my brother got his from Imperial college london.

This guy has absolotely no experience in economic planing for any government or body , not on a perticipatory or advisory level. He is just a banker who got appointed to head first bank 6 mths ago.

Look at how far we have gone since the obasanjo years. We have lost so much face in the international front. You cannot even compare the calibre of our policy makers to that of Ghana.

and the CBN governor makes economic policy for the nation? what then is the job of the finance minister?
Its irritating to see people evaluate qualifications in a vacuum. Look at their qualifications and experience, and match it to the responsibilities of the CBN. Having a PhD doesnt make you the best man for every job. Is Soludo also the best carpenter in Nigeria?
Paul Volcker, a former FR chairman did not have a phd degree and was chairman for 8 yrs.
Soludo himself had been a economics professor and consultant to the world bank. His prior position was as an adviser to the Obj administration. He has never been responsible for economic planning for any government (in Nigeria that responsibility belongs to the finance minister).
The responsibility of the CBN goes beyond making monetary policy. A key part of it is supervision of the banking sector to which Sanusi is definitely more suited to than Soludo.

Most people seem to ignore the supervisory role of the CBN and seem focused soley on monetary policies. Countries that have both macroeconomic policy making and supervisory functions resident in a single entity don't employ macroeconomic theoreticians as head of such establishments.

netotse:
what he was trying to say is that laptops that are made in china but are going to be sold in the U.S. or in the E.U. have to conform to the standards of said countries (which are prolly higher than chinas)

for instance there's this thing that HP does whereby they allow you to choose the components of ur computer online(u assemble it. . .so u can say its customised in a sense lol) the computer is assembled at the HP factory somewhere in china cant rem now and them shipped to the US(free shipping of course) since u ordered it thru HP in the US it will be built to american standards(thats what all those fcc etc stickers specify).

The quality of a PC is dependent on the semiconductor devices in it, and that is more or less same for a particular series, and independent of region e.g. Intel or AMD or Nvidia does not make chips with a region in mind, As the fabrication process matures, yield quality and QA improves.

Most PC manufactures maintain two lines:a early adoption series and a more tested series. A typical example for dell is the inspiron vs latitude where the inspiron usually has more recent technologies, while the latitude goes for reliability. This distinction is often separated as home and business product.

The regional differences in most laptops stems from standards and technologies, and not QA. For example the power supply rating in the US is different from europe, emission level masks are often different etc.

To say that one would get a better quality PC by buying from a particular region is misinforming others. If such were true, it is illegal and said company can be prosecuted for it.

Moonstone:
Amare or Bosh ke? - Abeg don't play with my heart jare. D.Wade and Shaq are enough jare. What rubbish?

Uncle Pat has made clear his intentions for 2010: renew D-Wade (possibly this summer) and acquire a big man that can run the floor. Bosch is his preferred choice, with Amare being second.

@dayokanu
14 million euros is excessive for tymoschuk. At 30yrs, he is past his prime. Zenit acquired him for 15 million euros over 2yrs ago.

That was quick.

Its Magic!!!!!!!!!
[flash=480,385]http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/5UAmTJgNQ-s[/flash]

where is the contradiction?they govt is not stopping gas production, but rather stopping exports.
The move is in the right direction in my opinion and hopefully it would lead to increased power generation in the country.

saxywale:
''practically all laptops are made in china ''

true
but the quality depends on the market it was made for, one can't compare the ones made for the Asian/African market to the ones made for the European market,

and what is the difference, different components, different config?

pheebs:
It is disheartening how our leaders continually rape and suck away whatever is good out of the country in the name of nepotism.
We have refused to take a cue from developed countries, though their systems are not perfect, they always manage to make things work.
How is it possible that a country can be governed without direction or purpose and noone is held accountable for it! 
There is only so much we can take

and your point being?

manoy:
Mo ni ife MARAY,e jowo e bami sofun

se enu dun e ni?
abi bawo ni gboro wa se fe di eleru?
lo wa agbejoro e siwaju jare