₦airaland Forum

@sagamite
The police are authorized for 'stop and account' and 'stop and search'.

The police are free to ask you any questions as long as you have been cautioned, and they can relate it to a possible criminal act, it is called 'reasonable suspicion'. In this case, suspicions of terrorism, arms and drugs trafficking/trading, and money laundering, are qualified grounds.

You are (in most cases) not required to answer the questions in the absence of your solicitor, but if you fail to provide satisfactory responses  on the spot, it is at the discretion of the police to arrest you and take you in for further questioning, after which the issue of filing charges will be next.

You cannot be held without charge for more than 24hrs (+12hrs if its a serious crime)

KnowAll:
SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER - YES

SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFIT - NO

Even Britain incurs  about £1 bllion pounds of illegal claimants yearly not a good idea for a growing economy. Most midle developed nations like brazil, Russia that is even developed, Taiwan dont do it how much Lagos state.

The desire is for a national identity scheme. The US used the social security number as a substitute given its prevalence.

tunku:
What the hell? What the hell with it? Kosovo is in L.A.? And judging by his writing he is a programmer that is spewing some of the most idiotic, intellectually bankrupt, and morally dubious defense of an idiotic tradition. These asshole points to the fact that some Western countries have monarchs: England, for example, does indeed have a monarch--with no power whatsoever. The queen cannot make decrees and expect Britons to follow them as if imbued with a mandate from heaven. No, Hundreds of years ago guys called Pitt "The younger" went to war against monarchist and established a parliamentary republic that did not suffer the flits of a mad monarch. Louis XV got his head chopped off once it became clear that the monarchy wasn't serving the interests of the people. Whatever remains of the monarchy in the west is nothing more than a vestigial figure-head, a living museum, or to put it more crudely a national mascot slightly more elevated than the likes of Mario, Sonic, and Princess Peach--to bring it to the level of  the idiot kosovo going to e3. You keep asking those who disagree with this feudal system to go to the palace and say this to the king; shouldn't the question be why are you in L.A. if you so ardently believe in the wisdom of the King? As a true-believer shouldn't you be the one prostrating yourself before the man? Or at the very least shield his eyes from the evil Palm Fruits that doth offend his highness so much. You chastise logic as the way of the Oyinbos, Logic is not the exclusive domain of any race, but I find it ironic that in living in America you are championing the elevation of monarchy above all else, you protect ignorance as culture, and label dissenters heretics. I am more than willing to let you keep throwing stones from this precariously built,or programmed glass house, when it crashes down on you I will be outside laughing.

Please read up Royal prerogatives before making such claims

The Royal Prerogative is a body of customary authority, privilege, and immunity, recognized in common law and, sometimes, in civil law jurisdictions possessing a monarchy as belonging to the Sovereign alone. It is the means by which some of the executive powers of government, possessed by and vested in a monarch with regard to the process of governance of their state, are carried out.

In the UK in question:
The Royal Prerogative includes the powers to appoint and dismiss ministers, regulate the civil service, issue passports, declare war, make peace, direct the actions of the military, and negotiate and ratify treaties, alliances, and international agreements (However, a treaty cannot alter the domestic laws of the United Kingdom; an Act of Parliament is necessary in such cases).
The monarch is commander in chief of the Armed Forces (the Royal Navy, the British Army, and the Royal Air Force), accredits British High Commissioners and ambassadors, and receives diplomats from foreign states. It is the prerogative of the monarch to summon, prorogue and dissolve Parliament.

mikeansy:
and by the way before we celebrate Sanusi as the man who will open CBN books to foreign Investors . . . . it might be worthwhile to see if Reserve Bank Governors arround the world open all of its books to foreign investros arround the world.

Or maybe if the Banks in the West were that transparent how did we not know that RBS was in trouble early enough . . . . . how did we not know that Barclays was in trouble before it was bailed out by Arab Billionaires through Gordon Brown. Why did Northern Rock face the kind of shock it did if they were such an open book.

Sanusi has to be careful about his noise about Banks opening their books to the world . . . . . this is a Country's National Business Interest we are talking about here.

Let the expert economists in the house tell us what they think. . . . . . . .Biina over to you.

China will be a very good case study

The CBN books should not be of interest, or made available to foreign investors, primarily because the CBN is a regulatory and supervisory body. All that could be of concern is the level of forex reserves, as it serves as an insurance asset for the Naira.

The books of the individual banks is of interest and is made available to investors. The problem is that the books of Nigerian banks do not necessarily tell the true story. This is not unique to Nigeria or banking. Anywhere in the world, a poorly performing business rarely attracts investors (except the intent is to acquire the company with a view of turning it around), hence companies try to show the world only their good side. Unfortunately, once a few investors are misinformed and lose their money, future suitors will stay clear.

The problems facing the Nigerian banks stem primarily from the bad economy. The primary business of a bank should be providing credit facilities. If the bank's debtors cannot invest in profitable ventures, how then do they repay the initial loan and the accrued interest?. This has led the banks to seek returns via other not so ethical ventures, like currency trading. The increased capitalization has not helped, as it has only added to the pressure to find returns on the investment. I don't blame the banks, as they are simply doing what is in their best interest like any other business.

The CBN needs to step up in its supervisory role. Policing of the banks needs to be improved. Moreso with consolidation, we have put all our eggs in a few baskets, and thus should guard those basket more seriously. The CBN itself needs to be sanitized, as often the CBN staff are complicit with the banks in doctoring of the books. The books of the banks should reflect the true state of affairs and transactions. Unfortunately, if the Nigerian economy does not improve, the CBN will be fighting a losing battle. It will be like fighting crime in the face of growing unemployment.

In fairness to Soludo, his lack of experience working in the banking sector made him an outsider, and thus limited how effective he could be in a supervisory role. One cannot expect Soludo to be an expert in all areas. Sanusi will not have the luxury of this excuse.

Much more of interest is former MD of Wema Bank, Tunde Lemo, who is the Deputy Governor - Financial Sector Surveillance and has been in that position since January 2004. If he cannot come up with valid reasons for the failings of his department, then he should be relieved of his post.

A radical option is the splitting of the CBN into two: a regulatory unit and a supervisory unit.

She definitely needs help; professional help.

there is an existing thread. Please search before creating new threads.

asha 80:
And who is going to sack them?Yaradua?U must be having a ball to think they would be sacked just to keep federal character.

Yaradua doesn't have to sack them, but i doubt the majority of the senate (be it for their own selfish reasons) would approve him packing the financial sector with only his people.
So it will be either Sanusi doesn't get the job, or he drops someone else.

asha 80:
Keep deaming

its not a dream, as the issue of keeping federal character makes it unlikely for all three to keep their jobs.

The posts on this topic are nauseating. Most contributors seem to be a greater threat to the development of Nigeria, than the oba and his edict that they are defending/attacking. They have failed to addressed the issue itself and have simply devolved to ad hominem attacks.

I don't think the issue at hand warrants an attack on the oba's (or any other traditional ruler's)  person, status or character. One can make his/her points without being insultive to another.

Royalty exists in many countries outside of Africa, including developed countries in Europe and Asia. There is nothing inherently wrong in the existence of royalty. Some are quick to point to the fact that royalty are not elected, but they seem to forget that democracy is simply a government that does the wishes of the people. It is no more equivalent to an electoral process, as it is exclusive of royalty. A king who does the wish of his people is democratic and an elected officer who acts otherwise is non-democratic in his governance.

Tradition has its place, and I personally do not subscribe to wanton disregard for tradition or culture in the name of logic and civilization (read follow oyinbo man). One cannot say that because their is no logical reason for not calling anyone by his/her given name (after all it is their names) we should then proceed to calling our parents by first names. Such moves do us harm by attacking the foundations of our society and family structure. This does not mean that tradition should be upheld blindly, but rather we must act with caution when making modifications.

Tradition and Culture are not static, and also evolve with society, but the evolution should not be achieved by destroying the framework that was built to support same tradition. The king is the primary custodian of the tradition of his people and should not be done away with simply because you disagree with his role and/or actions. The traditional rulers are recognized by the state and if you feel aggrieved by their existence or recognition, you can take your case to the government through the appropriate channels, and should be willing to abide by the decision of the majority.

As to the oba's edict itself, I really don't see the harm in it. The edict has only required that discretion be exercised in the sale and transport of said items. Also the jurisdiction of the edict is within the bounds of his kingdom. If the people of Benin disagree with it, they can lodge their discomfort with the state governor, to whom the Oba is constitutionally subordinate to. It is unfair to criticize the edict based on logic, as the Oba's has not alluded to having reached his position as a logical conclusion.

dont u guys check existing threads before creating new ones?
Its bad forum etiquette to duplicate threads.

bawomolo:
It's pretty hypocritical for gays to require your approval of their legal unions. 

Anyway this whole debate is silly.  Gay marriage would be legal in most american states by the end of the next decade.  it's already legal in 4 or is it 5.

It's called a civil union. get up to date.

I am quite familiar with the terms Civil union, Domestic Partnership and Reciprocal Beneficiary Relationships. You on the other hand should read up on the legal issue in dispute.

The gay marriage proponents are not satisfied with their civil union definition, which is almost equivalent to marriage in some states like California, but is not recognized by the federal government or its recognition required of any state. They want their union to be legally equivalent to an heterosexual marriage and thus be recognized by federal law and by effect all states. If granted, they will be able to enjoy the same legal provision as same sex marriage. The definition of civil unions or domestic partnerships is not limited to same sex couples and thus should not be changed simply because of proponents of same sex marriage. If they are not satisfied with their union being termed a civil union, then let them create their own union and seek their concessions.

They don't require our approval for their legal union, but they do need it if they seek to be equal to hetero-sexual unions, as the provisions were not made with same sex union in mind.

For your information, the most accommodating state to homosexuals is California, and I can guarantee that they will not be getting any more recognition in other states than they do in California.
If the recent ruling holds (as it likely will), the likes of Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, Maine, and Vermont will soon be retracing their steps on the issue of gay marriages.

I can't imagine how people start thinking of marriage without doing their due diligence.
I really don't blame the woman, the primary fault lies with the irresponsible fellow, who has failed to seek information on the past of his would be wife.

As for the lady, my advice for her is to look for happiness outside of the marriage institution. For her getting it wrong twice, points to an inherent lack of the mindset and/or skill set required to pursue a successful partnership. Third time ain't gonna be the charm girl, particularly with them already having hidden truths so early in the relationship.

They should appoint sanusi to CBN and fire the other ministers from Kano.

The Magics didn't need Lebron to beat the Lakers twice (home & on the road) during the regular season.
The Magic will give the Lakers match up problems, just like they did the cavs.
Neither Gasol nor Bynum can guard superman 1 on 1 without ending up in foul trouble. Double teams open up the 3-point threat.
The key would be Lakers driving to the paint to get Howard in trouble on the defensive end.
Unfortunately for the Lakers, Kobe hasn't been getting the star treatment that was granted Lebron. Lebron was getting calls in his favor even when he initiated contact.
Kobe was tripped and Dahntay, the culprit, essentially got away with it.
The Magics will definitely miss Jameer Neelson.

I still predict Magic in 5: M-L-M-M-M   and its party in the south beach

what we need is the government providing an enabling infrastructure for development and employment opportunities. We have a strong enough family structure in our society (unlike the US) and thus we should let the family network provide the safety net for the less fortunate in the society.

We need to stop plagiarizing ideas from developed countries. In the past, we have been guilty of copying and pasting socio-economic schemes from developed nations, without adequate consideration for their applicability to our own situation, and when same fails, we blame it on wrongful implementation. There is no way good implementation that can correct faulty thinking.

@goshen360
You seem to be putting the cart well ahead of the horse. You are concerned with the implementation of the project without evaluating the merits of such an endeavor itself.
The social security system will always fail to meet its objective under a capitalist oriented economic system. The US is a prime example.

Before you get all worked up on database and record keeping, please make an argument for the need and viability of an SS system in Nigeria.

goshen360:
In appreciation to the great job we hear the Lagos state governor doing, we nigerians in diasporal have come to believe in th leadership of this great politician. We hear news of how good roads are being contructed, the existings ones being properly maintained and beautified, job creations and proper clean up of Lagos state as a whole, We believe in his administration that, he can really do alot before the completion of his term.

In addition, i will like the governor to setup social security administration for lagosian so that lagosians can also start to get the benefits of social securities as it is obtainable in developed countries. Social security carries alot of benefits in the long run for citizens of a state and the government of such state.

Lets dialogue.

goshen360:
A Social Security Number (SSN) is a 9 digit indentification number (in the case U.S.) allocated  to U.S. citizens, permanent residents and non-immigrants who qualify on the basis of lawful status and legal employment.

A Social Security number is used by employers and employees for the purpose of reporting on individual employee's earnings for tax purposes. Social Security numbers are often used to check your credit history for a variety of other purposes unrelated to its official purpose such as opening bank accounts, leasing an apartment or obtaining cell phone services.  While having a Social Security number is convenient for these reasons it has become harder to obtain one due to restrictions on its issuance.  A Social Security number is necessary only for reporting employment and tax information.

Typical of most Nigerians, trying to apply a foreign system in its entirety to a local scenario without doing due diligence on its applicability.

The social security system is not what you have delineated above, and the misuse of the social security number as a replacement for a national ID in the US is an occurrence of chance and should not be emulated.

When you have some valid points as regards to the social security systems itself, please post. Till then I advise you keep your hands off the keyboard.

bawomolo:
Are federal police any better?

Yes

Na, I want magic in 5

We don't have to make a bad situation worse.

On the long run, I would like us to have a system in which there is a federal police force that is supplemented by another law enforcement force at the state level, but i think we need to take the steps one at a time. While one can make an argument for fashola being responsible, same cannot be said of most of the other governors and the PDP.
With a state police force directly under the control of the state governor, it will be easier for the corrupt leaders to intimidate the people. State police will end up being no more than unformed political thugs.

I think a simple move that would be in the right direction of rehabilitating the police force is kicking them out of the barracks.
The NPF is abstracted from the society and thus have no feedback for failing to perform their duties.

State police should not be implemented in Nigeria with the current crop of leaders.
They will only be used as political tools and become a private army to the incumbent state governors.

Sagamite:
I repeat, Nigerian senators do not earn (legally) more than £70K a year, and a vast majority of these are allowances that are neccessary/typical and would have cost the nation more (if not about 4 times more) if it was not monetised. We are seeing evidence of such crime even in the western hemisphere ala UK, so imagine how it would have panned out in Nigeria if we did not monetise it and hence increased the transparency.

Please stop gozumping everything you read without challenging it or analysing it because it petters to the anger you are seeking. Then you will go ahead and distribute the news to your friends (obviously as facts) and then they will further propagate it as "facts" from a "reliable source".

I think you have your priorities misplaced.

having more kids than u can cater for should be a criminal offence.

The problem is not about being an homosexual or being married to one. Proponents of gay marriages want the state to recognize their union as being equivalent to heterosexual unions, and hereby making them entitled to every concession afforded to heterosexual marriages, even though those provisions were made without consideration for same sex marriages. They are simply trying to smuggle themselves into the system under the umbrella of heterosexual marriage.

If they think they deserve same or similar treatment, then let them define their own union and seek the concession they feel they are entitled to.

Florentino Perez is set to return as president of Real Madrid. He was president of madrid from 2000 - 2006 and was the architect of the 'Era of Galacticos'.
In his previous tenure he signed top players like, Luis Figo from Barcelona, Zinedine Zidane from Juventus, Ronaldo from Inter, David Beckham from Manchester United, Michael Owen from Liverpool, Sergio Ramos and Baptista from Sevilla, and Robinho from Santos.
If Perez becomes president, possible targets include Xabi Alonso, David Silva, David Villa, and Kaka.

I agree the hype is excessive. Sadly, it is same media and people that will turn on him if things go south.
The same crowed that booed paul pierce when the celtics were struggling, hailed The Truth when they became champions.
The Lebron-Kobe ads were just classless.
I hope Lebron learns some humility from this season, and wont let the media push him over the  cliff again next time.

Ancelloti has left AC milan, and seems headed to Stamford Bridge.

The football season has ended and its time for the squad shake-ups across Europe.

This thread is for everything that relates to transfers: wish lists, speculations, rumors and confirmed.

ROTFLMAO @ pics

@ethanol
wetin d guy do you?

I felt his leaving the arena without addressing the press was in bad taste.

Leonardo is taking over

useless fellow and his useless bay mamas

call me gbewudani, mo fi jo broda mi