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Amujale:
Yoruba never have and never will be Idol worshhipers.

The term "Idol worship" is a nonsensical Abrahamic religious concept that is meaningless outside of European and Asian philosophy. i.e the term "Idol' makes better sense in a European and Asian context as is properly reserved for Arabian, Greek, Persian and Roman mythology.

The term "Idol" in the context of Abrahamic Religions is an immure and derogatory way of attempting to discredit all other faiths or religious concepts that arent Abrahamic.


That is to say, those that dont belong to any of the Abrahamic faith are automatically considered by adherents of Abrahamic religions as Idol worshipers. Which is in itself a nonsensical conclusion for anyone to make.

Yoruba Orisha is never an Idol in the context Abrahamic religions would have you believe..

Orisha are divine entities.

Orisha are in all reality divine representatives of the Almighty God on planet earth.

How?

Orisa are not worshipped
Orisa cannot be worshipped
Orisa are merely gifted people
Who were blessed with some unique skills
They are heroes and heroines of that time
That's why they called them orisa
Ori sa (the selected)
Literally,
Ori means head
Sa means selected
Orisa means someone selected by his head
Ori in Yoruba philosophy is used for eleda, the maker
So, orisa simply means the one selected by the maker

In other words, orisa are messengers
Through which people believe they can pass message to God
That's why we have many Orisa's, each with his own gift

IFA'S TAKE ON IDOL WORSHIPING

Ao le be igi ni igbo
We can't cut a tree from the forest

Ko wa di olowo eni
And it becomes our commander

Orere ko le ni iyi to eni to gbe
A craft can't be more prestigious than the crafter

Oni oju
It has eyes

Ko le ri iran
But it can't see

Oni ese
It has legs

Ko le sare
But can't run

Ifa loba
Ifa is the overseer

Orisa losin
The gifted are the messenger

Olodumare ni kan lo to gbekele
Only the creator can be relied upon

Ori ni a ba ma bo
We should rather worship the maker

A ba fi Orisa sile
And leave the gifted people

Ni ijo Ti ori ngbeni
While the creator is aiding us

Nibo ni Orisa wa
Where are the gifted one's?

Can someone please translate the Yoruba into a more appropriate and acceptable English language?

IFA'S TAKE ON IDOL WORSHIPING

Ao le be igi ni igbo
We can't cut a tree from the forest

Ko wa di olowo eni
And it becomes our commander

Orere ko le ni iyi to eni to gbe
A craft can't be more prestigious than the crafter

Oni oju
It has eyes

Ko le ri iran
But it can't see

Oni ese
It has legs

Ko le sare
But can't run

Ifa loba
Ifa is the overseer

Orisa losin
The gifted are the messenger

Olodumare ni kan lo to gbekele
Only the creator can be relied upon

Ori ni a ba ma bo
We should rather worship the maker

A ba fi Orisa sile
And leave the gifted people

Ni ijo Ti ori ngbeni
While the creator is aiding us

Nibo ni Orisa wa
Where are the gifted one's?

Can someone please translate the Yoruba into a more appropriate and acceptable English language?

TAO11:
I wish you also "complained" about why I asked him the questions SIX consecutive times already ??


Having said that: Are you sure that you aren't quite intimidated by my comments ??

[because something about your three comments, directed at me so far, says so quite loudly]

And If that's the case, then please know that you don't need to be intimidated by anyone.

I am intimidated.

I AM INTIMIDATED.

LET ME SHOUT IT OUT LOUD SO THAT YOU CAN FEEL GOOD

I AM VERY VERY INTIMIDATED.

Is that okay?

Meanwhile, he has requested that you ask your question. So stop repeating the same complain over and over again, when you already have the floor.

Thanks

bluke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExKGqmnRfuM


watch from 13.00

Thank you. May her soul rest in peace.

I have been looking for her books but couldn't find it.

TAO11:
I asked my questions to you six consecutive times already. Did you just ressurect from the dead?

What's the point of saying I should ask you again? Did you lose your memory? And if you did, Nairaland hasn't crashed tho.

Stop wondering if you will be humbled, you have been humbled already and humbled enough. 

Isn't Six Consecutive Humilation enough for you to feel subdued and humbled??

Why are you repeating the same thing like 10 times, yet you are claiming he didn't respond to you before.

It's obvious you are not serious with the question in the first place

Hum

TAO11:
Yes, you're right and I've always known that too.

May be we should also consider appreciating how we can learn from others (actively or passively) without necessarily feeling inferior to them even while admitting our limitation or ignorance.

Even when some body seems to feel inferior, it is your duty, to make them feel better about themselves, not make them feel worse. That's the only way you can achieve the purpose of enlightenment. Learning can only take place, when both parties are proud of themselves

TAO11:
Your ignorance is evidently deep. But I'm quite proud of how you were made to have a taste of your medicine. Your eyes should have been open and your horizon expanded by now hopefully.

We can educate each with love and respect, not with a sense of feeling superior.

Does Ifa support or condemn idol worshiping?

This is an important question needing knowledgeable answer.

Kindly shed more light on this

I need someone who can give us an extensive explanation on the sunject

aremuforlife:
It depends on what you mean by idol worshipping
The 2 leading religions makes us believed that if you don't belong to either of the religion, you are automatic an idol worshippers.
IFA is a religion and ways of life of a particular race and it's an intermediary between mankind and OLODUMARE.

Please do not bring any other religion into this discuss. This is strictly about ifa.

Secondly, whatever your definition of idol worshiping is, does ifa support or condemn idol worshiping?

Lol

Oshin56:
Very interesting question

Any prior knowledge on the subject?

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Does Ifa support or condemn idol worshiping?

This is an important question needing knowledgeable answer.

Kindly shed more light on this

Hum