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badoooo... change score na

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sweet header,.. ronnie!

nothing special so far

bennyraz: have you heard of the proverb "another man's meat is another man's poison" she beautiful and confident about it which is cool but she should not Intimidate any lady or any unverified contestant here! don't you know that some beautiful ladies are shy about their beauty!! she should't intimidate them

bro,, its ok

i like tascha's style though

Ishilove: Sexkillz darling, I haf hakcept the nomination. Told me what hels too do and I wee do it.

YAY!!

Send a picture of yourself holding a paper or starburckscup (sniper ) with your NL name written on it to -Ogugua88 (spyder_kings@yahoo.com)or Sexkillz (mikaelocee@gmail.com)
This verification foto is for them to confirm you are who you say you are...

spikes C: Pls, pls...u guys should just stop. With the rules, she's more beautiful than the hundreds of unverified accounts.
I believe this is for fun, and she said so herself at the ver beginning. If this can get other girls to verify (women love comp. ), then its good for everyone. Besides am gonna vote for her

Biko, i need to see more beautiful verified babies

GBAM!!!

bennyraz: well, she's hot in her eyes.. while she's cold in my eyes! maybe if she decides to post a bikini pics, she might be properly HOT in my eyes!!!

badt guy

i feel you

we have to create our own domot, the ladies just want to view.. so we have to get a telescope to view the ladies in the viewing room... #dormitory tinz

ItsModella: Exactly. It's one thing to be confident, it's another thing to be rude and downright arrogant. That's just working against yourself.

You have a point but i see it as a way to increase the tempo of the contest
To many ladies have to the viewing center and its not encourgaing

See gree-die that i know na babe, shuga,popoowa all run comot

if una dey view, wetin we go see.,... i no wan see ID MArcos...

Nice one adaobi for coming out jaawe, you may be the breakout poster on NL..

ItsModella: when that time comes, I go strategize am, just keep my people at the back of your mind

NL has beautiful ladies boku boku,..the last edition sef ... too many hotties...

to mention a few i still remember

livialives, sweetlemon, modella, roki of mystic fall(her back na wire), abil, becacia, florena ....in short na wire....

i hope this year is better...

Natascha: Ladies refuse to accept and verify coz I'm here.
You can't even beat me at your best!

i like your excitement.. pls put up a good bikini pic o

bennyraz: why are you fumbling? do you think you're beautiful!!!!!!

ItsModella: this chick needs to calm down tho, what's with the unnecessary gra-gra?

She is trying to ginger people... i see no harm in her statements
You guys are the veterans of this thing, if new blood does not come in, it will become boring

ItsModella: right here....make una join the winning teams..

Team Vanneni
Team Adaobi123
Team GraceBestowed.

Its Modella - madam Obama of NL... ndooo
I see you have your PDP arrangement
If the three are grouped togeda nko... how for do...

Black Kenichi: Preach brotha, preach!

thanks sir.. actually enjoying the convo
for me these ladies cry out against discrimination yet are as if not more educated than some of the males on this land
yet they are still crying they are victims

its just like AA blacks saying they have no opportunities yet the africans come to make it in the US or UK

Stop seeing yourslef as a victim and use the opportunity to make a difference

Good post

Domestic violence is not tolerated by no one
I despise it because to me its not an affirmation of manhood

I support that cause

Ditto Harassment in the workplace but are you aware some women welcome this in return for favors and advancement even when they are educated?

No one likes to be discriminated against on the basis of skin, race or gender and this i believe is wrong
If you have read my posts with an open mind, you will see this is so

If u want to go into the earth is flat story, that was the basis of all hypotthesis and it was the job of Galileo and Copernicus to disprove
I have thrown the gauntlet to you.. show me a superior argument how women leading are better considering the only known civilisation to be populated by women are the Amazons in Greek Mythology..

Great points that women are very intelligent but i ask you fellis or whichever female can answer where have you been discriminated against PERSONALLY
In your household you have the same opportunities your brothers had
In your office, where is the discrimination

Do you know that in my office,it is a policy to recruit 30 - 40& of new intakes as female.. they may not even ne the best but they have to come in as some form of affirmative action

Leadership roles are bestowed on the best
In the UK Mensch was identified as a high riser in the Tory party but she opted for a reality lifestyle so is that one discrimination
A woman who has the b@lls will rise to the top.. so dont tell me leadership is bestowed upon men actually

Okonjo, Madeliene Albright, Diezani(well... grudgingly), Ezekewzili,- all have some form of power
The prime minister of Australia is a woman


The reason why i said you guys took things personal was statements made by cfours calling my comments silly and u saying my answers were not meaningful. escalating with an equvalent jibe will lead to more insults hence i decided to ignore
If my comments are wrong or illogical, point them out to correct not to deride because im male

Also good to know things are changing... it will take time

I agree with your conclusion

fellis: Feminist movements are aimed at providing better understanding and acceptance for the concept of gender equality and defending equal political, economic and social rights for women. Feminism seeks to protect women from domestic violence, sexxual harassment and assault and to protect them against different forms of sexxual gender discrimination.


Cultures, beliefs and ways of life change as we develop as human beings and increase our knowledge therefore, the beliefs we held centuries will not necessarily be the same beliefs we hold today. For years people held the belief that the earth is flat but with the advancement of technology with which to study the earth, it was discovered that the earth was not flat after all.
Would you say that since humans believed in a flat earth for centuries then that means we must always continue to believe the earth is flat?
Also, in the past, when kings wanted to expand their kingdoms what they did was to out rightly send a message of war to the ruler of whatever kingdom they desired to have and if he accepts to give up his kingdom, a peaceful take over occurs, if he doesn't accept then war. Presently with the advancement of civilization and organisations like the United Nations, barbaric practices like that have ceased.
Presently with the aid of different scientific findings and researches it has been made known that women are just as intellectually capable as men and that gender inequality is nothing but a farce so it is no longer necessary for us to live the way we used to live in the past when women were seen as inferior to men and not capable of taking care of themselves.
So,
considering the fact that we have now expanded our knowledge and know that women are not inferior to men, why then should we continue to treat women as if they are inferior? Why should leadership roles be bestowed solely on men when there is evidence to show that women can also be good leaders?


We're not taking things too personal. We are just asking for you men to kindly accept the fact that women are not inferior to you, thank you.

who said feminism is going to end all types of wars between genders? Feminism seeks to end discrimination and injustice. Of course there will still be disagreements between males and females.


Attitudes are still changing, there hasn't been 100% complete change but it is happening gradually.


Let me end this post by telling you this; sex and race, because they are easy visible differences, have been the primary ways of organizing humans into superior and inferior groups (blacks were considered and are still considered by some whites, to be inferior to white people in the past) and these groupings were used to decide who plays what role in society regardless of their capabilities.
Societies shouldn't work that way, roles should be earned or chosen, not thrust on individuals.
Simple fairness and justice, simple humanism.

Some facts ahead..

@OptaJose: 3 - Atlético de Madrid have won all Cup's finals played against Real Madrid in Santiago Bernabeu (3). Favourite.

@OptaJose: 14 - Atletico Madrid have gone 14 years without winning a game vs Real Madrid in any competition; their last win: 1999 at the Bernabeu. Run

ogugua88: [size=13pt]Vanneni has moved into the Verified column! Best of luck![/size]

this vanneni looks hawt...... where is her team

fellis: Can you elaborate on this point please? Thank you

WHY
Why should the male be the typical head? I asked you this question before and you didn't give me a meaningful answer yet you return back to make the claim again.


There has been improvement in the way women are treated due to movements for gender equality, I'm not sure I know what point you're trying to make.

I asked what is the thrust of feminism and cfour says its now abortion?
Choice is enshrined since Roe v Wade but now its become a political thing and was an issue in the last us presidential election

Its a given subject to certain considerations and abortion is accepted in the West generally

So i ask you, what does feminism realy mean,,, what are its objectives

As an analyst there is sth called Analogic analysis where you start with the known and extrapolate, so if for the last 5000 years, men have been head of famiiles it stands to reason that they will be at the present time and people raised by the same people will be used

If you are not satisified with that, give me a superior logic but dont say i dont have meaningful answers

You guys take things too personal//////


I ask has feminism solved the innate struggle between genders.. in the same west that you have divorce settlements yet people still engage in serial marriages as an avenue to enrich themselves

People still abuse their women and the women keep quiet

Go figure...

Agbgift: Pls u guys should give us specific date of d contest. Dnt want to miss d show. I want to vote. And pls no body should chance my sit here @d viewing center.

i nominate this post agbgift https://www.nairaland.com/agbgift

[quote author=c.fours]How old was Mary when she had Jesus?

The Virgin Mary was most likely a teen mom, but that wasn’t taboo back then. Life expectancy was 45 to 50 years, and girls were married off as soon as they hit puberty.

Some accounts say that Mary, a Jewish woman from Nazareth, may have been as young as 12.

But the web site biblelessons4kidz.com puts her age at 14 or 15.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/old-mary-jesus-answers-burning-christmas-questions-article-1.996294#ixzz2TRR9jh3b

Mary was a young girl, probably only about 12 or 13 years old when the angel Gabriel came to her. She had recently become engaged to a carpenter named Joseph. Mary was an ordinary Jewish girl, looking forward to marriage. Suddenly her life would forever be changed.
http://christianity.about.com/od/newtestamentpeople/p/marymotherjesus.htm


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this will be seen as child abuse in today's world. but was ok 2000 yrs ago when Jesus was born. 12 yr old getting married to a grown man.
when u say wives should be submissive according to d bible. in reality, the bible is most likely talking about girls being submissive to men old enough to be their dads probably.
i'm sure u would want ur daughter to be submissive to you. lol and you would be responsible for being a loving father to ur daughter in return.[/quote]Hmmm.. Noted.

So are you saying all maidens in Biblical times were minors (less than 16) in todays parlance

wow... just saw your post
Long post i will try and take each point one by one

Potrayal of women as s.ex objects in music videos did not start today with rap music.
women have always been part of entertainment for pleasure (Salome dancing for King Herod, geishas and in festival dances here in Africa) - me i love my beats - dont ban rap/hip hop though i agree the gratification is too much personally i dont watch videos

Sanctity may have been the wrong word. Let me rephrase.. Do you think marriage between a man and a woman is still relevant in today's society


That point on roles and evolution makes sense. But in a union there must be a head - what is your thought on that

I dont subscribe abortions personally but agree that situations necessiate it - assault, teen pregs etc
Every person has a right to do with their body
If a man who abandons his seed is not vilified, why shd a woman who aborts be?

I know her and the issue is not that women dont want to get to the top, family concerns affect them
The former CEO of HP was a woman and there is a lady who heads Pepsico.. so dont say there are no opportunities for women
The issue is prioritisation of career vs family


What I meant here is a woman having multiple se.xual partners without recourse - freedom which is perceived as one of the offshoots of the feminist movement
However checking the defintion it has to do with marrying into higher social levels - so scratch the hypergamy thing

Ok.. i will leave those two
You made reference to a higher earning woman in a relationship shoudl take the bulls by the horn right?

Social justice is more than feminism. dont get it mixed up

I believe in all this and in my working life so far companies give mat leave and dont punish women they even allow them one hour off daily toll the baby is nine months (6 months flexitime)
That other coys in naija dont do this is because of the impunity here

If a coy does not even pay a living wahe, why the eff shd they have family friendly policies

if my points sound stewpid to you.. sorry o






[quote author=c.fours]personally what do you stand for:
a lot of things. ex portrayal of women in d media is something that irks me. especially black american entertainment culture. women are portrayed in very negative light. If I had my way, I would ban rap music. it's mostly misogynistic disgusting filth with lyrics filled with all kinds of ugly names and abuses toward women.
there r other issues too of course. LOL

Do you belive in sanctity of marriage:

How do u mean? ex. In America where I live, marriage is being re-defined, gay couples now have the right to get married in many states. this is not a feminist issue but a GLBT (gay-lesbian-bisexual-trans) issue.
Marriage (with the wedding, ring, vows etc) is just a social contract created by society for social purposes. each marriage is different. in some parts of the US, some still practice polygamy. there are tons and tons of parters who cheat on their spouse. so when u say sanctity of marriage, be specific about what u mean and how it relates to feminism.

Do you believe in equal rights for male and female
yes.

Do you belive males and females have seprate roles to play and are complementary not competitive against each other
of course males and females are complimentary. but in terms of roles, that is always influx. I think women can define the role they want to play in society. Men have always been d ones to decide the roles. but gender roles is subjective. ex depending on d culture, men and women play different roles. so of course naturally roles might form along gender lines but I think women have d right to be able to influence the decision about their roles.
ex. women can be professionals today. but in d past, their role was only in d home and kitchen. I don't know what will happen in d future but ideally women should be able to participate equally as men in influencing the decisions that cause these roles to change

Focus on the issue - what is the thrust of feminism what do you hope to achieve and how can this be useful for less privileged people
there is no such thing as "thrust of feminism" besides the idea of equal rights for men and women. there are just so many issues depending on what's going on in society at the moment.
right now in America, the popular political issue concerning women is a right to safe abortion. US govt is planning to make it illegal for women to have abortions. of course I believe that women should have the right to safe abortions.

Not crying for liberties which you already enjoy by being educated or working.
Yes. I'm educated and working. but that doesn't mean that it ends there. I recognizing equal right for men and women in general. ex, in most work places, there are more men at the top than women. this is another issue for feminism. there needs to be more female CEOs and leaders than we currently have. more female presidents etc. google Sheryl sandberg. this is the issue she focuses on as an activist. She tries to empower women to aim higher. she is the current chief operating officer of Facebook.

If your goal is hypergamy let's know it
explain ur definition of hypergamy.
I believe that women and men have to contribute their fair share to the family. if a woman is shouldering majority of the domestic responsibilities, then she shouldn't have to shoulder majority of the financial responsibilities and vice versa. men and women should be able to contribute in d home as they do in work places.
if that's what u call hypergamy, so be it.

If your goal is single parenting/lezbian coupling and adopt a child let's know it
lol. your questions are starting to become ridiculous. I will not even waste my time on this question. I'm not gay. not all feminists are gay. not all gays are feminist.


If your advocacy is for divorce once a woman outearns her man then your ideology is dodgy
again, this is a stupid statement.


How does feminism help social justice
[b]feminism is social justice.
Do u agree that women should have equal right to education? do u agree that women should be able to have maternity leave and come back to work rather than being fired for being pregnant? do you agree that women should be able to vote? do you agree that women should be able to leave a physically abusive marriage? do you agree that there should be more female leaders in d world? do you agree that women live in more poverty than men? do you believe that women's clothing shouldn't be dictated by d government (any more than men's clothing is)? (referring to the eras of of govt ban on women wearing mini skirt etc) and of course look at muslim countries for more xtreme cases.
do you agree... I could go on and on..
these are issues women have either fought for and achieved(whether they use feminist label or not) or they are currently working on.
to me, it's all part of social justice.
but then again, i'm female. social justice for blacks may not count as social justice to whites. social justice for women may be seen as not so to males, social justice for the working poor may be looked down upon by rich. social justice for the imprisoned (yes people in prison have rights too) may sound excessive for some etc. so depends on what lenses ur looking through and which side you're on. [/b][/quote]

Bimfo: Some People no Know Anytin about Football...

Bleep
And Torres dey these 2 Teams..

So if U no Know Wetin to Say, Just ShUT UP!!! Mumu

Mata is also the same

fellis: How has the issue of gender equality become a monster in the west?
So biolabee, you think women are inferior to men

gender equality is never a monster.. its when the basic tenets of social justice are met and people just cause more issues for political gains.
I think u shd read my posts devoid of any perception
I listed out major issues that affect women and u label me as having superiority over women,, naahhh

i believe we are seperate but equal and have our roles.
However in a relationship, there must be a head
Its typically the male.
Daz all


In the same west, has gender equality tamed the gender wars... naahhhh

See my post below again requoted

biolabee: Excellent.. Thanks ...

What I meant by sanctity is aside from purity etc, do you think marriage has a role to play in society and is it relevant in our times

2. Ok I agree we have rights as humans

3, Ok I believe we have different roles in society and we should play those roles

Women though working in the workplace are generally better suited for certain duties, they should be assisted as much as possible by the man

The issue is that we have traditional roles which we are used to from time but that have to change due to time and there is inertia

I am interested in your opinion of how you see the roles of man and woman in marriage

Athletico has last the last ten meetings with Madrid. This is a tall order for them but well this is 90 mins

[quote author=Dr.C]I have noticed that we Nigerians seem stuck in this traditional belief that the man is solely responsibility to provide for the home financially. While i do understand that this belief is strongly rooted in our traditional family value system in this part of the world, i have however noticed that education and civilisation has enabled us drop a lot from our traditional family system which we perceive to be either obnoxious or unfair.

Let me highlight a few examples here. In the past a man never cooks, it used to be a taboo for a man's hand to be seen in his wifes pot but today men cook for the home as well as the women. In the past a man does no home chores today it is also acceptable that both do them. In the past when travelling, it is the woman that carries on her head the loads and bags for the family, today this has shifted to the man beacause they are physically stronger. Men alone go to work to earn money also in the past while the woman stays home and caters for the family but today it is generally acceptable that a true man is the one that not only allows his wife to work but supports her financial and other dreams. Finally even while performing the act the man alone use to stay on top but these days i need not describe the scene.

So my question comes, why is it that our society has accepted so much of the practices from the foreign value systems but seems adamant on this one? Why this cherry picking? Could it be out of ignorance or could it just be that the woman gender are still so week in our society that they need this protection. From my last count there are more women going to school these days than the men and also it has become somewhat easier for women to gain employment after school than it is for the men. Today's life opportunities are open to all irrespective of gender. While it is possible that most men who still strongly belive in this value system are those who remain stuck in their thinking that it is solely a woman's responsibility to cook, wash nanny the kids and lick their nyashes on all issues, it is also possible that most women in this class are those who lack the understanding that the essence of working wether for the man or the woman is to carter for the family.

As for me, i am a firm believer of equality of all humans. I will not raise my girl child in this generation to grow up believing that there is a man out there who will carter for her needs either in or out of marriage. If the man earns let him provide, if the woman earns let her provide and if both earns let them both provide in love, with understanding and give the family a living standard that is commensurate with the combined earning power of both of them. Let me state categorically that any woman who provides financially either by supporting her husband or by leading in the role, while believing in her head that she is carrying out a role meant for the man, will never truly respect the man nor will she ever be able to provide in love.[/quote]

awon eleyi badt gan,,,,,

Lalale friday,,, nuthing spoil



jhyde/shuga/br3nd4

coogar: what a story!
the pictures can tell the nakëd eye could not? only in nigeria would such happen. this thread should be moved to the joke section or the religion section - let the atheists have something to cheer - it's been a bad year for those losers!

I dont think its Nigeria...looks like its some Southern Africans based in the UK

Pastor Takes Pictures Of His Wife Privates Parts, To See If She Were Intimate At Church 17.05.2013, 8:41 Features A pastor from Murewa reportedly took pictures of his wife's private parts upon her return from church as a way to inspect if she had Were Intimate with another man at church.The man of God and 'Mai Mufundisi' are currently based in Epworth.Pastor Philmon Chitewe, who leads an unnamed church in Murewa,

bellong: This is where we need Wenger to be hard on those guys. His softness make them complacent everytime. I love the captaincy of Arteta.. Seems the armband threw Vermaleen off point leading to his numerous errors that cost us valuable games.

Wenger does not like assertive players.

fellis: Lol why does the thought make you sad? Our different genders are meant to compliment each other, not to establish superiority or inferiority of one over the other.

It's poignant considering when the basic and important things are done
It will have become a monster that will be uncontrollable as we see in the West.
All causes become monsters eventually

The issues to me are

Education and empowerment for women
Fairness in adverse marital situations - widows, orphans etc
Protection from spousal abuse and ra.pe
And other 'basic' rights

It always grows... It always grows

Hmmm I appreciate your fierceness for the cause though

In 40 years time I'm sure this line of thought will be prevalent

fellis: If you are supposed to take an on-the-spot decision that affects your family in the absense of your spouse then you can go ahead and do that as long as you have the benefit of your family in mind when making such decisions. Same goes for your wife, she can also decide for the family in your absense without your ratification.

bellong: The reason why media is always on Arsenal is because the club is still very relevant. Else, their addiction with the club. There are other clubs in the league and in Europe spending astronomically higher than Arsenal yet never attained the club's status. Hope they will all be silenced next season as no major player is leaving this summer unlike before that they had to rebuild around another player.

True... for me the fact is that only one club can win
I just want arsenal to be competitive

Losing to Blackburn in the FA Cup and Bradford in Carling is unforgiveable

kulyie: lmao no vex na my beautician fault 8-) na when i dey do pedicure she go fix long nails for me and the thing dey affect my typing.lol

then ko si wahala then... enjoy ur money and type as u fit
at least its legible