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good job OP raising this initial awareness about this child
But the question is what do you think can be done

do we continue exclaming on mans inhumanity to man or do we make a step and change

There is a group that helps with such cases and they helped awith a young girl Ayomide (see her story here https://www.nairaland.com/926775/please-ayomide-abandoned-child)

Can you get some more info that this group can use to kick start a project

Woged2005: LoL!!, thank you ma. I do come back. But sometime the thread get's too long and people digress into something else unrelated that I don't even know how to redirect them back to the question without sounding rude. So I just give up. I take the useful advice and work with it. Nairalanders have been very useful.

you dont need to sound rude ma but a little update actaully brings the thread back to focus
Like the case of the senior uncle who has stayed away from his kids due to his wife how far
or the classic case of the lady that wants favors from her BF without s.exual relations

This are abandoned babies threads

Ihedinobi: Do you know what I call a good story? It's a story that puzzles the life outta me. The whole point for me is to be able to figure the thing out not to be told it and since I'm a storyteller myself I recognize when other storytellers are employing the greatest skill in making you tell yourself the story. I doubt thay the story will turn out differently.

As for your question, Obito trabsplanted one of Madara's rinnes into his eye. Madara is an edo tensei and a tweaked one too. So there.

If the edo tensei brings you back at the point you died, how did madara rinne get into nagato that it should now come up again
The thing get holes mehn

Woged2005: Why do we Africans make a big deal of a girl being pregnant when all of us came through pregnancy? Americans give birth to their own no matter their age or financial situation. OP I think you are trying to impress society at ur expense. Talk to your mom and the boy's mother and let them know you want to keep the baby...go register in a hospital and start preparing. Elderly Nigerian Mother's love babies

The baby father will come for that same baby someday. If he is reasonable and truly loves u, he can just give u a ring now for engagement to re-assure you (marriage later when money come). but know there's a sacrifice to anything. In this case you may be home, not working, to look after the baby for sometime

What about if he never takes responsibility
What if he never comes back
What if she cant really afford to take care of a baby

Ihedinobi: Oh c'mon, don't be a sourpuss. We're family here. Family fights, good family makes up. We're all good!



I'm not very sure if you're asking questions or venturing theories. However, I'll say what I think about what I think you said.

Obito already knew of Nagato before the Akatsuki ish. Madara had already said enough for us to assume that he told him where to look for the kid who had his rinnes. Zetsu pointed him out too before he approached him.

There was one scene before the kids came together and before they ever met Jiraiya where Nagato used the rinnes. It was, as far as we were shown, the first time he ever used the rinnes. In that scene, Nagato killed the Leaf shinobi that killed his parents. What we can conclude from that is that he had the rinnes from a very early age. That would mean that he was either born with them, or he awoke them very early or else he was really the kid Madara transplanted his rinnes into.

Now we know of only two kinds of doujutsu: the Sharingan of the Uchiha and the Byakugan of the Hyuuga. We also know that the Sharingan specifically descended from the Rinnegan. What we can do with the Byakugan is speculate, ams it is not necessary to do so here. We know that the only people who vould awaken the Sharingan were the Uchiha because their ancestor received the eyes of the Sage of Six Paths. It only follows that they should also be the only ones that can awaken the Rinnegan. Unless, of course, there is a sort of reincarnation of the Sage and even then we cannot be sure that that reincarnation would have the rinnes because it really is very possible that the Rikudou gained the Rinnegan from being the Juubi Jinchuuriki.

So, we can say for argument's sake that what is known for sure is that only the Uchiha, and maybe the Senju, can attain the Rinnegan. As far as we know, Nagato was not Uchiha, he was Uzumaki. As far as we know, Madara was Uchiha. As far as we knpw, Madara survived his last fight with Hashi. We can conclude also, given the evidence that Hashi was far more powerful than Madara, that Madara indeed fought Hasho that last time specifically to obtain his dna. We can also conclude that that was necessary because we know that as the sharingan evolves, it is more and more able to decipher the writings on ancient Uchiha scrolls that hold the secrets of the Rinnegan. These scrolls are a possibility because the Uchiha are direct descendants of the Rikudou whom we know to bw the first human to possess Rinnes.

It is reasonable then to believe that Madara who had the Eternal Mangekyou which was the highest Sharingan attainable should have been able to discover information from the scrolls that told him how he could get the rinnes and that this information must have informed that last fight wjich he must have undoubtedly known that he would lose. His goal must have been to survive the fight with Hashi's dna in his possession and make it look loke he was dead so that he wouldn't have to worry about pursuit as he worked out his plans for Infinite Tsukuyomi.

Thus, Madara must have gained the rinnes as he said that he did. He must have transplanted them too to ensure that they hung around even after he died. He would need them, first of all, to be revived, and second, to carry out Infinte Tsukuyomi. He would pick an Uzumaki if something about them suggested ability to wield the rinnegan. If that something was the fact that the Rikudou was Uzumaki, suddenly it all makes sense. He picked Nagato because Nagato's body could handle the rinne just like Naruto's could handle the kyuubi and Gaara's the ichibi.

He would tell Obito to keep an eye on the young man and in due time persuade him to resurrect Madara who would reclaim his rinnes, reassemble the bijuus and seal the resultant juubi into his body allowing him to activate Infinite Tsukuyomi.

If all this is true, and it probably is, in fact it is hehehe, then it is not accidental at all that Nagato had the rinnes. He would have to have been Uchiha to be born with them, but he wasn't. He would also have to have been Uchiha or the Juubi Jinchuuriki to have awakened them, but he wasn't either. He was most likely a transplant destination for an aging Madara with a long-term ambition.

There. What say you, buddy?

Superb write up and it really looks at a lot of possibilities which make perfect sense and are valid
But my take is that until we have incontrovertible proof we cant really say madmara gave nagato his eyes
But i guess all will be explained in due time as there are still a lot of cheese holes in the rinnegan


What i dont get is how madmara and tobi both have rinnegans now
If madaras eyes were taken from nagato, which eyes are madmara using now


Although now it seems there are two uzumakis as they have intermarried into other clans

death is no respecter of persons

Live this life to the best of your ability cos this is the life we know for now
God will sort the rest

Bros DN your story looks like a 40 stories building on fone

DAMN!!

Also it is a bit formulaic

It does not always work one way
Life is multi dimensional so there are many ways of looking at an issue but u make some good points

Its almost March, any update bros?

chaircover: WOW!!!!!

The Lord will strengthen you ladies and your labour will not be in vain by His Grace. Your children will turn out right in all ways and you will enjoy the fruit of your labour Amen. to you all.

I fully support this prayer and May God enrich your efforts and make this journey for you women deeply rewarding
I pray your kids appreciate the efforts you are going through for them

You are truly Amazonsdoing this on your own! God is with you

davidylan: but forgive me folks but why do people still make crazy mistakes like having kids with a nuisance?

Yes we do make but a problem shared is a problem half solved

We can reach out

greatgod2012: Hhhhmmmmm.......
Graduate?
Boyfriend of 3 months?
No condom?
No concrete discussion b4 flesh to flesh?
Pregnant?
Awaiting service?
What do you do?

Sincerely, i sympathise with you, im sure, even if your bf is rich, not planning to travel, he may not likely allow you to use your being pregnant to tie him to you, ie, may not really get married to you, it seems you sound too naive for him, hence, his refusal.
Well, we all make mistakes, and as others have said, d deed had already been done, may be this will make you smarter, so, buckle up, learn from this and carry your cross, it is well.
What to do....................tell your parents, how?..........do not go direct to them yourself, go thru an intermediary, probably, a highly respected and confidant family friend, he/she will know how to table d matter b4 your parents, and you can move forward from there.
Warning.........do not abort that baby, you never knew your destiny, and who knows tomorrow, that baby may later be your most source of joy, babies with controversies like this usually make it bigger in life and even in d life of d guy self.
So, my dear, do not wallow in selfpity, gather yourself together, move ahead, forgive yourself and learn from your mistake. Tell yourself, this aint going to debar me from reaching my goal in life, remember........there is always another day.
May God help us all.

I support everything u said however she does not have to keep the baby

Single moms are statistically more disadvantaged in the workplace than other group of females because they never have time to make for interview; they can't take some kind of jobs (maybe travel or offshore jobs) because they can't be too far from their babies.

This further perpetuates their poverty and makes them susceptible to dating married men for money.

Yes all well and good about sentiment of destiny, joy of life and etc etc why is the woman burdened with a load of care when the biological papa wey get p.rick and fit phock does not have a phock to give?

Dear Buggz have you read the links.
In additon to
- Getting intermediaries so you can sort your parent they will naturally be cross

- Officially notify your bf parents so they can know and by their actions you will know their stand.

- Look at yourself wella and check your background and ask yourself can you really support a child alone from now till 18 at least? Because this may be reality of your life as single mums are stignatised and tend to compound their mistakes in love again.

- if you are sure and feel convinced go ahead IF YOU ARE NOT SURE PLEASE LOOK FOR A GOOD CHILDLESS COUPLE AND GIVE UP THAT CHILD FOR ADOPTION OR FIND OUT IF AN ORPHANAGE WILL TAKE THAT CHILD.

ANYTHING ELSE LIKE SENTIMENTS BLA BLA WILL COMPOUND YOUR MISERY AND SORROW.

ish

You can contact cool heads like debrief, chair cover *nd any of the other esteemed honourable women on this forum who have good naija roots and are still grounded here to give u a very good picture.

You can also contact me via PM for more advice.

This thread has lasted this long and it is majorly because of no beef and derailers

Yes it makess sense that nagato was given the rinnegan but only a few pple actually understand it

So far the only time obito met nagato was when they wanted to form akatsuki

Before that was impossible as obito was in konoha with minato

How did nagato awaken his rinnegan before jiraya met them as kids


ish

Woged!

The madam that opens threads up and down and does not come back to give feedback

Well you have been given good advise

I will just add this is not unique to Nigerians only
An business you want to start especially at the semimnal stage its best you are on ground running things
The only biz looks like it will work

You can run it asa batch order service where you receive payments and batch up deliveries to naija
You can also outsource delivery via the various sites available
This will remove stress from your side so you can focus on business devt and procurement

The mata plenty o but if you are willing to learn, you have a potential goldmine in the making

The major problem you will have here is trust
If i pay u money, where is my recourse if you dont deliver

Abeg dey try to come back to your baby threads

cotton101: very sad stories here

some are sad but[size=18pt] i see strength \i see love\i see hope
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vallycan: Wen u wre funfully doin and enjoyin it didn't u rememba d consequenz,nw ya secret enjoyin as a produce an open result so enjoy to as u dance the music of ya own beat n tune:

animal the deed has been done

OP before you do anything read this to have an idea of what to expect

If you are geniune, with good advice you can come out of this looking good

https://www.nairaland.com/1191865/pls-advice-me-losin-it/


https://www.nairaland.com/1202357/single-parenting-love-life-career/

Let me know what u think

Chioma Ndubueze: I never tot that I will be a single mom! My hubby stays in n out of country n I stay in their family house wit my daughter, she got another woman preggy n she bore him two boys, he changed n started maltreating I and my daughter to the extent tht he asked de sisters to threw us out. I didn't hve anything cos he also told dem not to allow. Me to take anything cos he claimed I came to his house with nothing! This is somebody I married for two years . Today am happy where God has placed us n my daughter is growin to a. Fine young lady! Am not dating anyone now! I just wanna take care of my child n be happy! In those two years he hit me five good times! Am happy now tht out of tht marriage! So happy am free!

be strong God sees your tears

they were happier

eat good food not proceseed.married many wives, had many sons who could pay back farm as early as 8
no useless carcinogens, many festivals

dailydolla4u: This guy should not be baggin her for his money as if she is doing him a favor. There are so many ways to kill a rat if indoside dosen't kill otapiapia ,gum or trap would, so if she don't want to pay to God, then she would have no choice but to pay to satan..

And devil own worse pass baba God

Ask Pharaoh

dear nikkykay

thanks for this however i have another comment

Dont you think you are doing too much considering your baby is at the creche till late evening
Can you make arrangement for some form of help (a sibling/cousin and maybe a househelp - YES!) that can help with some of these tasks

I believe a child should be well rested before evening
If you dont want them to be involved with the child, they can help with house work (even dicing hot dogs and green pepper for stir fries no be easy work)
Women una dey try

What do u think

You know my opinion already on the scum


For her to dig up and trace this man may dregde up forgotten pains
If she is comfortable enough, God wll guide her
It is well with you Amazons

carmelion: *in customer care voice*Kindly hold on ,an agent would be with you shortly..On a more serious,When. I keep silent,it is either am not in the mood for long posts,I don't have anything to say,or the post is meaningless to me.

In this case,I think point 1 & 2 is the reason.Never mind,the answer must not come from me.Someone else would pick it up.There is never a dull moment here

OK i hold on to the nice voice.. and wait for someone to answer

Ihedinobi: Perhaps anyone withe enough chakra can wield the Rinnegan just like with the Sharingan. But to awaken the Rinnegan, one must have both Uchiha and Senju dna. Check out the chapter where Madara was educating Obito on the Rinnegan.

All wehave is madaras word he gave nagato the rinnegan .. this assertion has to be proven



I love the chapter we see a human side of madara before he becomes the bloodthirsty warlord
hashi has always been a man of peace and it seems they both shared the vision

meanwhile this kids were konohamarus age and they were being sent to die
thats so evil man


Meanwhile how madara fit waka on top water but hin no fit throw stone acrosss...
that shows how small they were

evil clans

Ihedinobi: ^^^ The Rinnegan is impossible without the mix of Senju and Uchiha dna.

Please can you quote whre u got this information and how come nagato can use the rinnegan

More please

We have talked about importance of companionship

My question is how do you cope with work, business and taking care of a child since you are the only one

damiso: In this case the woman has tried her best so i agree that there is no point trying to force it.On the other hand some women intentionally use the child as a pawn in mind games and sometimes esp with girls,they poison their minds against men.THAT is what is unhealthy.

It takes alot of time though(lets be realistic)for one not be bitter towards the person who causes you so much hurt and pain esp for one coming out of an abusive relationship.How many of us who broke up with an ordinary boyfriend cos of cheating actually want to be his friend? Its just that a child is a sort of connection for life if not some characters are best left in the past.

you are always on point

[quote author=baby_123]I clearly stated that if the father wants the child, he should be allowed to play his role. The fact remains that a lot of women hold their children back to get back at the father. Because the father hurt the mother is not an excuse to punish the child as well. If the father says he doesnt want a relationship with the child, then fine. Hold unto your child. But intentionally holding children from their fathers will backfire. Even when they are older, the ones rejected by their father still go and look for their fathers. Not knowing who your father is, is like not having an identity. How can you answer the name of a person you do not know and that person is alive? It is better if the father were dead, than be alive and the kid does not know anything. In a developed country, whether the father wants the child or not, he will still have to contribute to the child's life whether he likes it or not. Mothers also abandon their children. The feeling of abandonment i dont think can be equated to an orphaned child. Especially for girl children, its not a good thing at all. Honestly.[/quote]Yes some women use the child for emotional blackmail because of their own issues but this does not mean all men tried to be good fathers

lynnj: am in, if you re interested, kindly check my profile and email me so that we can exchange phone nos and start from there. lv you all.

Please still be careful on NL
Also take baby's advice and beg an elder in your family to notify your ex family
after that leave it to God

So a woman shd continue hawking the child to a man that has to all intents and purpose say he is not interested in the child

A woman on this thread made efforts to invite the father to the hospital, baby naming and first birthday.
And in all these instances, the man says NO

What else do you want the woman to do

Please let's not over dramatise impportance of a useless father in a childs life.

Orphans have made it in life.
Some are even better without their biological father