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Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 7:00am On Jul 29, 2013
benalvino: but the bible did not say it like this.. Prayers wasn't even involved. Example of making meaning out of words that says otherwise
its all there in the bible.
The Apostles in the book of act doing pentecost were speaking in tongues, dats why all the people present could hear them in their own language cos the Holy spirit was the interpreter then.
Why Roman 8:26 talks about praying in tongues: the spirit make intercession (pray) with groaning...
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 12:19am On Jul 29, 2013
benalvino: still not convinced because you are just making excuse now to add the scriptures together... Now why paul is asking for interpretation of the shakanakanaka? the whole 1 corin 14 is not even talking about prayers but addressing or ministering to people in the church. SO why paul need interpretation? and why does he say it is better to prophesy than to speak in tongues?
let move to tongue 102.
See there is different between speaking in tongues and praying in tongues, the speaking most times require an interpreter, why prayering in tongues require no interpreter.
Prophescy is 4 unbeliever and believer, why tongues is for believer.
Someone dats speaking in tongues is delievery msgs from for d church and he require an interpreter to decode d msg cos its n tongue. Why d person dats prayering n tongues is talking to God, it require no interpretatn.
I have to sleep nw, i wil ans any of ur post 2moro
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 12:00am On Jul 29, 2013
benalvino: what part of cannot be uttered do you not understand? if they say man cannot walk on water... it means even if he tries it he cant walk on water... if tries it doesnt mean something else... it still means it cannot...

funny thing is that corinthians says speaking in Tongues can be uttered... instead of you to base you example on the one they say can be done... you are basing it on one the bible says cannot be done...

fact is the 2 scriptures are not linked... I just proved it to you. it doesnt make sense what you are trying to explain..

again the bible say speaking in tongues can be uttered... now you are saying the speaking in tongues that can be uttered is a result of trying to utter groan which the bible says cannot be uttered... weldone bro... accept the truth man.
the two verses are good, there is notin wrong with any, 1cor 14, says u can do it, why roman8, shows u how it wil b (groaning)
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 11:55pm On Jul 28, 2013
benalvino: what part of cannot be uttered do you not understand? if they say man cannot walk on water... it means even if he tries it he cant walk on water... if tries it doesnt mean something else... it still means it cannot...

funny thing is that corinthians says speaking in Tongues can be uttered... instead of you to base you example on the one they say can be done... you are basing it on one the bible says cannot be done...

fact is the 2 scriptures are not linked... I just proved it to you. it doesnt make sense what you are trying to explain..

again the bible say speaking in tongues can be uttered... now you are saying the speaking in tongues that can be uttered is a result of trying to utter groan which the bible says cannot be uttered... weldone bro... accept the truth man.
let be practical abt dis tin, let use a living being as an example, a Deaf and Dumb Human.
We all know they cannot speak/UTTER any word, nw they trying to UTTER any word usually lead to groaning, which we never understand.
Now let relate dis to tongues, Roman 8:26, said tongues cn b UTTER, we nw trying to speak/UTTER d tongues result to groaning (shatatamama).
Simple as ABCD
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 11:54pm On Jul 28, 2013
benalvino: what part of cannot be uttered do you not understand? if they say man cannot walk on water... it means even if he tries it he cant walk on water... if tries it doesnt mean something else... it still means it cannot...

funny thing is that corinthians says speaking in Tongues can be uttered... instead of you to base you example on the one they say can be done... you are basing it on one the bible says cannot be done...

fact is the 2 scriptures are not linked... I just proved it to you. it doesnt make sense what you are trying to explain..

again the bible say speaking in tongues can be uttered... now you are saying the speaking in tongues that can be uttered is a result of trying to utter groan which the bible says cannot be uttered... weldone bro... accept the truth man.
let be practical abt dis tin, let use a living being as an example, a Deaf and Dumb Human.
We all know they cannot speak/UTTER any word, nw they trying to UTTER any word usually lead to groaning, which we never understand.
Now let relate dis to tongues, Roman 8:26, said tongues cn b UTTER, we nw trying to speak/UTTER d tongues result to groaning (shatatamama).
Simple as ABCD
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 11:43pm On Jul 28, 2013
trolling: when you look at your calendar the seventh day of week falls on Saturn day called Saturday but we Hebrews call it shabbat but Pope Leo and Emperor Constantine switched the Sabbath to the first day of the week in 321 Bc which is named after the Sun God that's why you guys worship on the day of Sun to worship the light bearer, anyways eating, drinking is allowed but on the Sabbath days we Hebrew Israelite don't gratify our flesh like having sex, playing worldly music, in terms of speaking your own words we are talking about words or conversations that doesn't edify, why would one be talking about sports, business, fashion on the Sabbath, the Sabbath is the first thing the God of Israel blessed, we spiritual Hebrew Israelite don't defile the Sabbath because the God of Israel and His Angels observe the Sabbath too
urs is another different ball game, if we start this discussion, i doubt if i will sleep this nite. Pls which church and country are u. And were is your source about Emperor Leo changing the days of d week
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 11:37pm On Jul 28, 2013
benalvino: How can you utter something that cant be uttered? you are still contradicting your self... the bible said the Groaning cannot be uttered and yet you say you uttered it and it becomes the shakanakanaka
buddy, its seem u r out of points, all u are doing nw is to try and find fault in my post, but i bet u, u we neva see any.
because it cannot be utterred and u trying to speak it out, dat why its sounding as matabogara, shakatamama. I will give u anoda practical example to back dis up, have u ever see a dumb man or deaf and dumb man, they cant speak, they trying to speak lead to those sound (groaning) they alway make. Dis thing is in black and white for all to see. We al knw dis tin, dat u dont av it, doesnot mean u shld deny it existence
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 11:20pm On Jul 28, 2013
benalvino: lmao... compare this explanation to the one of woman having birth and see how they contradict each other...
instead of you to admit that you are wrong you have changed your explanation



[size=18pt]can you guys see that he is confused?[/size]
try and read that my example on a woman given birth again. (I said let me give a 'nt tongue' example of groaning) i was only stressing on groaning practically to make things clearer, i dont see any contradictn here.
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 11:12pm On Jul 28, 2013
trolling: not speaking your own words and doing your own pleasure
let me name some of my pleasures to u
-Eating
-sleeping
-browsing (which u and i r doing rite nw on a sunday)
-etc.
Whose words should i speak then
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 11:09pm On Jul 28, 2013
danchuzzy: Isn't there a clear difference between speaking in other tongues and speaking(praying) in an unknown tongue?
yes broda, there is a big difference
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 11:07pm On Jul 28, 2013
benalvino: let the bible speak for it self... lets compare

1 Corinthians 14
14 Follow the way of love and eagerly desire gifts of the Spirit, especially prophecy. 2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit. 3 But the one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening, encouraging and comfort. 4 Anyone who speaks in a tongue edifies themselves, but the one who prophesies edifies the church. 5 I would like every one of you to speak in tongues, but I would rather have you prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be edified.

in this verse they utter....

Romans 8:26-27
Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities (weakness or lack of strength) for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And He that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is in the mind of the Spirit according to the will of God.”

you see the bold fonts... they dont agree... so romans 8:26-27 have nothing to do with speaking in tongues
welcome to my world, let me give a lecture on tongues 101.
Let me explain to u were d shakatamama is coming. Because the spirit is groaning in us with utterance, its u or me trying to speak-out dis uttrances dat lead to d robomamasika. Normally these are spiritual utterance dat should be utter, bt u trying to speak them lead to dat togoroba, its stil nt speakable, because ur understand and those of the people around its unfruit, bt to God u speak misteries
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 10:59pm On Jul 28, 2013
Lovine: thankGod u are aware that satan heard and withheld daniel's prayer.
The bible describe satan like a roaring lion, moving from one end of the earth to another looking for who to deviod.
He might nt b present in Elijah prayer life, but he was there to destroy he using Jerzebel, same go with Elisah, using the sons of prophet, bro he was even there doing Jesus fasting and prayer time, i guess u knw d 4 temptatn of Jesus, what about Job, they all have their tale. The only way to shoot satan out of your prayer life something, especially when things are tough is tongue. If u prayer with your understanding, ur prayer are also being answer by God, it all depend on your situation, desperate situation require desperate measure. Tongues can be very handy doing warfare prayers

Was there anything like speaking in unknown tongues in the Old Testament? Keep on praying with the tongue you don't understand while others pray with understanding; I sure believe since your tongue prayers nothing has changed for you, you only fight the devil with his own tool, tongue of confusion
and apostle paul, a man who his own shadow heal d sick, a man who apron taken from his body heal d sick, a man who brought d gospel to d gentle ( d whole world) said, thankGod i speak in tongues more than u all. Pls read ur 1cor14 again.
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 10:48pm On Jul 28, 2013
benalvino: the main point is that groaning cannot be uttered
Even you know, i am speaking the truth, i have given u the definition of groaning, and i have given u a practical example. Its an audible sound, even a layman know this, why not type the word 'groaning' on google and see things 4 urself. Its audible and that roman 8:26 explain evrytin abt tongues, 1cor 14, cn be manipulated because it wasnt specific. Pls let embrasse the truth, dat u dont have d gift does not mean it does not exist, i know u have urs, not all christian must (must) have d gift of tongues, there are oda divers gift. Pls stick wth urs and let odas enjoy theirs. Thanks
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 10:36pm On Jul 28, 2013
friday@man:
Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
Joh 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
Joh 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Joh 14:22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Joh 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
Joh 14:25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Joh 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
Joh 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
Joh 14:29 And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
Joh 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
Joh 14:31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

My friends read the above Bible passages to understand the condition to receive Holy Spirit. When we do not keep God's commandments including the sabbath commandment the number four in the moral law of GOD we will not receive the COMFORTER. IF YOU WANT SPEAK ALL THE UNINTELLIGENT ECSTATIC UTTERANCES CALLED GIBBERISH. You have not come to the love of truth of the Word of GOD. No Holy Spirit for you. Accept it or not the Comforter leads to all bible truth not only speaking in tongues. NB Tongue means language. If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:15, If you love me keep my commandment, And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
if i may ask, how cn we keep the sabbath day holy?
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 10:26pm On Jul 28, 2013
benalvino: Dude your answer is in the bold verse below... the example you gave showed that you dont understand what you are saying... notice the bold then check dictionary... i dont see how this is connected to speaking in tongues... cause if you say so

"Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God" (Romans 8:26-27).

[size=28pt]21 that[a] the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.

22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23 Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the [b]Spirit, groan inwardly [/b]as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have? 25 But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.
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lets assume all the creation is speaking in tongues cheesy even the rats and roaches lol
c'mon buddy, we are all english student here. You have to get the meaning of a word from how its used in a context. The same word can have different meaning, depending on the context its used. I give u an example, check dis: d Refuse-man refuse d refuse . ( i guess dis sentence is correct) cn u see how context change a word. When the word groaning was even use in dat ur verse 22, an explainatn was even given to show what its talking about, we knw d whole creation have been groaning( as in pain of childbirth) i guess u are seeing the difference nw.
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 10:04pm On Jul 28, 2013
benalvino: "Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He makes intercession for the saints according to the will of God" (Romans 8:26-27).

Letake note of what is not said. Paul talks of prayers, but he doesn't say anything about praying in another language (speaking in tongues). Paul talks about the Spirit making intercessions for us, but he says nothing about the Spirit speaking through us. More to the point, the intercessions the Spirit makes on our behalf to God, the Father, cannot be uttered.
dude, 1st paul told us what the spirit does for us: intercession and then he told us how: groaning( another word to represent the word tongues) and i just gave u a practical view of what groaning is all about.
C'mon buddy, let us not hid the truth, just because we dont believe in the act, its self explainatory. We dont nid tutorial on this particular verse
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 9:58pm On Jul 28, 2013
Lovine: have u read Daniel 13:10, were d prince of persia withheld d answers to Daniel's prayer

Yes because he did not pray in tongues, but failed to with hold that of Elijah, Jacob, Jehoshaphat, Esther etc who did not pray in "tongue" but with Hebrew tongues
thankGod u are aware that satan heard and withheld daniel's prayer.
The bible describe satan like a roaring lion, moving from one end of the earth to another looking for who to deviod.
He might nt b present in Elijah prayer life, but he was there to destroy he using Jerzebel, same go with Elisah, using the sons of prophet, bro he was even there doing Jesus fasting and prayer time, i guess u knw d 4 temptatn of Jesus, what about Job, they all have their tale. The only way to shoot satan out of your prayer life something, especially when things are tough is tongue. If u prayer with your understanding, ur prayer are also being answer by God, it all depend on your situation, desperate situation require desperate measure. Tongues can be very handy doing warfare prayers
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 9:40pm On Jul 28, 2013
benalvino: is satakanaka groaning?
all the definition you brought no one supports your stands of shakanaka...
r u sure u understand english. Let me give u a practical and 'nt tongues' example of groaning. Have u see a woman in labour, do u see the nonsense that normally come from her, i dont mean nollywood labour, real life stuff. U we see her saying nönsenses, words beyong ur comprehension.
Again, have u been to traditiönal bone healer, ie a place were broken bones r treated traditionally, pls try and experience one, then u wil know that shakatamama is even d 1st step of groaning.
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 9:25pm On Jul 28, 2013
nokingasgod: Don't mind him, he didn't know that Kenneth Hagin words are superior to that of Apostle and even the teaching of Christ. O shibobobobob karakakakaakakakakakak koskoko keskes...
bros u are wrong, kenneth Hagins words can never be superior to that of christ.
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 9:22pm On Jul 28, 2013
benalvino: yeah i know the verse... but it has nothing to do with speaking in tongues...
are u sure u reading ur bible rigthly.
ROMAN 8:26
likewise d spirit also helpeth our infirmities, for we know not what we should pray for as we ought, but the spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groaning which can be uttered. (kjv)

What is Groaning:
1. Say something in despairing or miserable tone.

2. Make a deep inarticulate sound in respond to pain or despair.

Are u stil saying roman 8:26 is not talking abt tongue, mayb u shld enlighten me then.
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 9:04pm On Jul 28, 2013
Lovine: The poster of this topic should go back and pray for forgiveness. He has gone against the Holy Spirit. We know of people who speak non-sense which they call speakin in tongue and Satan also have is own version of it. The speaking in tongue is only understood by God and sometimes the speaker even Satan does not understand it. If you say speaking in tongue is another language you dont understand then it means satan hears what you speak and can block your prayer. When we speak in tongue we confuse the Kingdom of Darkness... My dear fellow Christians, this is all signs of endtime. MARANATHA

Very surprised to hear this that speaking in tongues is the only language Satan don't understand. So all the prayers your church offered today was blocked by Satan because it was not prayed in tongues? What a blindness. A being who is million of years before your creation could not understand the language of spirit. What language does Satan use when he tempts people? Someone who can often times read the heart of people cannot understand the language he spoke and use to give God his stewardship report? Satan is a fallen angel and if God did not take anything away from him, do you think it is your so called spirit language God will take away from him? Don't be fooled, Satan hears every language even one spoken by the angels. WHAT A BLINDNESS!!!
have u read Daniel 13:10, were d prince of persia withheld d answers to Daniel's prayer
Christianity EtcRe: Leave Any Church That Speaks In Tongues(gibberish) by bishopjoe02(m): 8:53pm On Jul 28, 2013
@op try and read Roman 8:26
CelebritiesRe: Justin Bieber Spits On Fan From His Hotel Balcony (photo) by bishopjoe02(op): 1:46pm On Jul 28, 2013
IboBoyNuel: Na dat ein bald head me go first break
hahahahhahhahahahahahah...
SportsRe: Arsenal Won’t Win Any Trophy, Until The New Royal Baby Becomes King – TB Joshua by bishopjoe02(op): 7:34pm On Jul 27, 2013
Yungwizzzy: Photoshop dey sweet sha
bros..try and google it..and see things for yourself
CelebritiesRe: Justin Bieber Spits On Fan From His Hotel Balcony (photo) by bishopjoe02(op): 7:22pm On Jul 27, 2013
Cashkhiid: Wtf!! Justin BARBER again??What is wrong with all these American musicians? First na Rihanna wey dey display her tiny 'brez' now na BARBER wey dey troway spit 4 people head?? that one no fit happen for naija sha! angry shocked angry cheesy
how i wish this happened in Nigeria...Imagine tuface doing this...i just can imagine the beating and stoning he will recieve
SportsArsenal Won’t Win Any Trophy, Until The New Royal Baby Becomes King – TB Joshua by bishopjoe02(op): 7:05pm On Jul 27, 2013
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If this is one vision from the spiritual realm, Arsenal fans had better start praying to revert this cos Prince George of Cambridge still has a very long time before he ascend the throne and if before that time Arsenal isn’t guaranteed any trophy? They had better sell the club or better still change the name or something

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CelebritiesJustin Bieber Spits On Fan From His Hotel Balcony (photo) by bishopjoe02(op): 6:24pm On Jul 27, 2013
He hasn't exactly been keeping a low profile recently, becoming known for his 'pop brat' antics.

And Justin Bieber was at it again on Thursday as he was photographed spitting over a hotel balcony onto a crowd of waiting fans.

Showing just what he thought of the throng of adoring girls, the pop superstar can be seen hurling saliva over them ahead of his concert in Toronto as his amused friends looked on.

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After the disgusting act, the star seemed to be pleased with himself, turning to his group of admiring friends to laugh.

His impressed pals joined in with the tearaway teen and then they all crowded around him as he took a snap on his phone.

Seeing the reaction from his legions of loyal fans, Justin seems to get even more amused and starts filming them on his phone.


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This is not the first time Bieber has been accused of spitting.

Earlier this month, an Ohio based DJ alleged Bieber confronted him inside a bar and 'spat in his face' because the pint sized superstar suspected he was taking pictures of him.

'He called my mom something, called my dad something, called me something ... and spit in my face,' the DJ alleged to TMZ.

Back in January, Bieber was accused of 'spitting in a woman's water bottle' when he encountered her in a North Carolina gym.

The woman alleged Justin or one of his entourage 'spat into her Gatorade' - claims later denied by Bieber's camp.

The singer was also reported to have 'spat in his neighbour's face' in March after the neighbour complained he was driving his new Ferrari 'insanely fast,' according to TMZ.

Sources connected to Justin's security team told the website there was no physical contact between the star and the neighbour.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2379981/Justin-Bieber-lives-pop-brat-spits-balcony-crowd-adoring-fans.html#ixzz2aGcnOmpE
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CrimeRe: I Beheaded 100 Men, Pounded 27 Babies & Slept With My Mother- Shina Rambo by bishopjoe02(op): 4:20pm On Jul 24, 2013
Ruq: Naaah, as much as i know God forgives, i don't think he would forgive all these infamies itz just beyond, except all this stories where made up.

What about the 100 babies he pounded, the 100 heads he used for rituals ? He didn't even give other people a chance to repent like he did.

God did you really forgive this man ?

I saw someone that claimed to be him while airing a live church programm for the church he attends, said some of what is written here.

But is it that the police have no record of all the attrocities this guy caused ? Or they just don't want to press charges ?

This is just effed up.

Some people still say no one knows who he is ?
if any1 b in christ, he is a new creature, old tinx have passed away and alltin become new. Apostle Paul was almost like him
CrimeI Beheaded 100 Men, Pounded 27 Babies & Slept With My Mother- Shina Rambo by bishopjoe02(op): 12:40pm On Jul 23, 2013
In a very shocking interview renowned dare devil robber, Shina Rambo revealed some of the evil things he embarked on in his quest for power, during his reign terror in the 80's and 90's.

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Shina Rambo now Mathew Oluwanifemi was a name that sent shivers down the spine of people who lived in the South West of Nigeria and even outside Nigeria, like Benin Republic and neighborhood, in the 1990’s.

He was a hardened criminal, a terror and killer, one whom men of the security agencies will never forget in a haste!

A man mountain, towering about 6ft 5inch, well built, dark skinned and sweltering eyes, he carried out his operations, like a movie, in the broad day light, with sophisticated weapons, and bullet belts and explosives strapped roundabout him.

He specialized in robbing exotic cars on highways and banks. Nothing could stop him, not even security operatives, he was totally invincible. He was Shina Rambo!He was born in the year 1958 to a military man who was a bad egg in the service. His father was from Abeokuta in Ogun state, but his mother was a native of Sabongida–Ora in Edo state.

His father had over 18 wives, as was the norm for soldiers to impregnate virtually every woman they met where they were posted to.His father used his military influence to rob innocent citizens, and always brought huge amount of money home.

This used to entice little Shina. He recalls, “I remembered when I was about 7 years old, my father came home with a lot of money, foreign currencies, with blood on it, and they were using something like a woman’s scarf to wipe it, then I asked him, is this an animal’s blood, or human blood? But he wouldn’t answer me, they were just drinking, smoking, and merry making.

”Shina was already indoctrinated into the underworld by his father at a tender age of 7 without him knowing it, as he would sit in front of his son, to dismantle and assemble all sorts of weapons and then polishing them in preparation for an operation. This went on for so long till one day, little Shina, entered into his father’s room while he had stepped into the toilet, and saw a dismembered gun on the floor.

He sat down in front of it, and bit by bit, he had assembled it effortlessly in no time at all. His father came out of the toilet, and saw his son, with a loaded gun in his hands. Shina flashed back and said, “That day my father was so disappointed, that he wanted to kill me, he grabbed the gun from my hand and shot straight at me, but I miraculously escaped out of the room.Then he waited for me to be less alert at night he came to my room with a machete and tried to behead me, but once again, I escaped, but the machete caught my left leg. (rolled up his trouser to show us the large scar, that made everyone sighed in pity).

It cut me so deep I thought I was never going to walk again. That day I knew I had graduated, all that was left was to pull the trigger, and I was so eager. Shina Rambo became so notorious in no time, and was hell bent on succeeding in his career as an armed robber, that he went through any length to secure spiritual powers for fortification.

To the extent of pounding over 27 live new born babies in the mortar with a pestle, cutting off about 100 human tongues and cooking them to eat, visiting the spiritual river called river of life in Ogoja, Cross Rivers State, living in an Iroko tree for days, and sleeping in the cemetery.

He was given a spiritual wife who always followed him for any operation, she dressed like an Alhaja, people thought she was human, but she was a spirit, that was why they never saw her face.

He said she was his personal driver, that she could drive from Nigeria to Cotonou, in the speed of light.

Hear him. ”I was involved in so many rituals, that I can’t start naming them now, I was so powerful, I went underground, inside trees that looked like a city, a lot of beautiful houses inside the tree, I had my own too, I went into a river called River of life in Ogoja, where a lot of politicians and wealthy men used to come, I had several personalities, I could change my form whenever I wanted to, that’s why the police were busy killing innocent people, and thought they were killing Shina Rambo.

The 9 herbalists that gave me that power, I became stronger than them, one day I went to their shrines, and killed all of them, so that they don’t reveal my secrets. I had too many powers; my spiritual wife could drive any car in this world or out of it, no police vehicle, or anyone for that matter, could ever chase and catch me during an operation.

She was out of this world, and when she had completed her operation, they took her away from me. I could give anything to get powers, and the elders knew, so they also gave me anything I wanted.I once beheaded hundred men, and gave them the heads fresh, they were so happy with me that they made me invincible.

No matter the kind of bullet you shot at me, it was just like pure water on my body. I could give anything to get power, but of all the things I did to get power, the one that still breaks my heart the most, is sleeping with my mother. My father is dead now, but my mother is still alive, and she lives with me she is 85 years old, whenever I set my eyes on her, I just start crying.

I can`t bear it. Shina Rambo was a raging terror, he was infallibly dangerous, the police dreaded him, both in Nigeria, and Benin Republic, his place of interest for business.

He would go to police stations, in broad daylight and kill every policeman there, drive to check points and open fire on every policeman on duty, he didn’t like the police at all, and was never afraid of them, he operated in broad day light armed to the teeth looking like Johny Rambo, in the popular Sylvester Stalone movie, “First Blood”.

He once robbed 40 exotic cars in one day and drove all of them in a convoy, from Lagos to Cotonou, unstopped. He was powerful; he was wealthy, and impenetrable. He was a tin god, apparently belched from the very arroyo hell, we all dreaded him. He had a wife and three children, but he lost all of them in one day during a bloody police raid whilst he was away on operation.

His wife was his stabilizing factor his life changed afterwards. He says “my wife was everything to me,

I was forbidden by the elders to sleep with any other woman apart from her, I could gather about 50 women around me in a hotel, and they will just be playing with me, we would smoke, drink, and sniff cocaine, I will give them money but I will never sleep with them. I will go back home to my wife and sleep with her. That was why the police never caught me. She knew my job, she knew what I was, I never left them alone at night, I operated in the day time and go back home to my family at night.

I had everything, I was very wealthy, I once spent 50 million naira in a day. I did it a lot, there was one day that we were coming from an operation and it seemed as if my powers were going to fail me, the police and the army were almost closing in on us, so we had to drive into a crowd and threw millions of naira in the air, there was commotion, everybody was busy picking naira notes even the police, until we escaped.

I was too rich, but anything the devil gives you never lasts, he will collect more from you, it’s only the devil that will give you Fila, (cap) and ask for Iro and Buba.(wrapper and top). I lost everything, all the money, my family; I was so powerful the police couldn’t catch me but I lost it all.I had to surrender myself to the police, and I was arrested and jailed for 11 years.

When I was serving my jail term in Agodi prisons, Ibadan, Prophet T.O Obadare came visiting, and having been encouraged several times by the Christian brothers and sisters in the prison to give my life to Christ, he prayed for me and converted me, and changed my name to Oluwanifemi, and it was so miraculous, the next day I woke up and started speaking in tongues. It was during the time of President Olusegun Obasanjo, that we were granted freedom.

At this point, I was glued to my seat, the revival where Shina Rambo gave this exclusive confession was on an open ground revival in the ancient city of Ibadan, right in front of me, on stage, was Evangelist Mathew Oluwanifemi, the once feared Shina Rambo, clad in a loose fitting shirt, black pants and a pair of leather sandals with a black Holy Bible in his hands, gigantic dark skinned and bald headed, still had those fiery looks, and stealth movement.

I was more transfixed than focused, God is indeed awesome, he picked the offering basket raised it to the congregation prayed and asked who had anything to give to God, at first I was reluctant, my mind was occupied and out of an innate compulsion, sheer curiosity I stood up, dipped my hand in my pocket walked towards him briskly and calculatedly brought out my offering, dropped it into the basket, and looked deep into his eyes, I had too many things to ask him, there were too many questions unanswered.

He looked back at me, and spoke in Yoruba, saying God bless you my brother; we know your type when we see them.The congregation broke into a mild giggle, as all eyes were on me as I went back to my seat, with a lot of things on my mind, and the red light on my midget still blinking, in the breast pocket of my jacket…

To be continued……

By Tunde Moshood


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Christianity EtcPope Francis Visit Cause Riot In Brazil by bishopjoe02(op): 12:03pm On Jul 23, 2013
Frenzied crowds of Roman Catholics mobbed the car carrying Pope Francis when he returned to his home continent for the first time as pontiff, embarking on a seven-day visit to Brazil.

A wrong turn sent a humble Fiat carrying Pope Francis into the thick of the Rio de Janeiro crowd yesterday, in his first minutes back in South America. It was a nightmare for security officials, but for the clearly delighted pope just another opportunity to connect.

But the jubilant scenes were marred by the shadow of violent anti-corruption protests, which saw police firing rubber bullets in a bid to disperse angry crowds outside the government's Guanabara Palace shortly after a welcoming ceremony for the pontiff ended.

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Francis arrived at a tense time for Brazil, as the country reels from the demonstrations that began last month as a protest against public transport price hikes and mushroomed into a wave of protests against government corruption, inefficiency and spending for the 2014 World Cup and 2016 Olympics..

About an hour after the pontiff concluded his short speech at the government palace, police began cracking down on the protests, firing rubber bullets in an effort to disperse the crowd.

The government spent about $52 million for Francis' visit, but he does not appear to be a focus of protesters' rage.

'We've got nothing against the pope. Nobody here is against him,' said Christopher Creindel, a 22-year-old art student and Rio native protesting outside the government palace. 'This protest is against our politicians.'

Lombardi confirmed that a homemade explosive device was found Sunday by Brazilian authorities in a public toilet near the basilica at Aparecida, a Marian shrine that Francis will visit Wednesday.

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PoliticsRe: TB Joshua Behind Al-mustapha's Release - SaharaReporters by bishopjoe02(m): 12:34pm On Jul 22, 2013
israel007: TBJ would never do that without expressly hearing from God. If he did it, I MUST be God's direction. And if God has said it, that settles it!
ur foolish is just above d roof, u nid help, u r a walking dead, from ur post, it seem both your body and soul is doom
Christianity EtcRe: Nelson Mandela Has TB Joshua's Portrait In His Home by bishopjoe02(m): 10:02pm On Jul 20, 2013
iamdsam: Has anyone seen Jesus. Stop deceiving and fooling yourself. Those photos claiming to be that of Jesus isn't His. People just portray it to be
does that mean, i should use that of TB JOSHUA instead

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