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chukwudi44: The gift of tongues described in the book of corinthiansis very much prevalent in our times and have been witnessed by uncountable number of both catholic priests and laity.

The gift of speaking in tongues(as in what happned on the day of the pentecost) is very rare and since the end of apostolic times has only been recorded in the lifes of st vincent ferrer in the fourteenth century,St Francis Xavier and Alongsius Liguori.

I am yet to hear the exhibition of such gifts in our modern history.

let go back to my questn nw, i have neva see a priest or a catholic praying in tongues ie self edificatn except charistmatic

honey86: The tradition requires that the bride's family pay the dowry. Those from the poor families can't afford this, so they resort to either aborting or killing the child. As a matter of fact gender scan is illegal in India. Doctors carry out ultrasounds to check for anomaly and all but they don't disclose the sex of the baby.

how i wish 9ja was like dat...

honey86: I believe this is as a result of their marriage traditions. Parents don't want to bear the high cost of weddings.

hahahahaha. Wats wrong wth their marital traditn

chukwudi44: Yes some catholics priests have the gift of tongues.Speaking in tongues as in what happened on the day of pentecost is differant from what happens in most pentecostal churches today.On the day of pentecost the apostles spoke in only one language but the differant people heard them in their own native languages.

It is like me speaking in english and a yoruba man hears me in yoruba ditto for an igbo man or a hausa man.

The gift of tongues(which pentecostals mistakenly call the speaking in tongues) is what st paul described in the book of corinthians where people were said to speak in the language of angels.There the people spoke and were not understood by anyone except by interpretation by those to whom it was revealed to.

The holy bible tells us that we should do it with moderation.Not more than 3 people at a time and there should do it one after another.It goes further to add that when there is no interpreter no body should speak in that strange lanuage in the church.

let me rephrase the question, do catholic and their priest prayer in tongues in their closet, nt n church name, if u may knw there is diff btw speaking tongues(for the edificatn of the church) and praying n tongues for the edificatn of d speaker

I have being to different branches/parish of catholic church, i have come across priest casting out devils and manifestating the gift of healing, but i have never see one that is praying in other tongues, is tongues now might for the pentecostal alone.

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italo: Dont pretend like you dont know I was talking about baptism.

Who is lying about your baptismal status?

do catholic speak n tongue, have u c a Rev Father praying n tongue, does dat mean dat d apostles dat were speaking n tongues n d bible were pretending

Syncan: Do you consider it worth knowing (in the course of your seeking the truth) what was being practised at the time the bible was compiled? At least we agree they were Men Of God.

mayb u shld enlighten me then?

italo: You are saying you and the Catholic Church are lying that you are baptized...and Living faith is lying that you are not baptized.

...and you say you are not confused?

What then is the truth?

they r both lying 4 fighting each oda nstead of facing the work at hand....soul winning

italo: I dont know the truth and I am not seeking it. That is what you said. But the Catholic Church says it is correct.

What do you say/think?

i thnk both of them r lying

italo: Oh! So you are still here.

Who is lying?

You and the Catholic Church...or Living Faith?

u tell me

Syncan: I hope bishopjoe is listening. Then verse nine?

yes im here

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Syncan: So what Paul claimed is what you used to authenticate him abi? I have told you, without Paul God would still have spread the Good news. I wonder how many of these extraordinary happenings have not been wrought by People who eventually are not from God.

who write the book of the ACT? is it paul? cos these things i mention are in the book of act.....
have u seen anybody using black magic to raise the day?

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shdemidemi: Can you imagine, how do you then grow spiritually in such a system!

spiritual growth!!!!!

do they border about that...it is sunday to sunday church for these folks.they buy bulletin every sunday (WHICH IS A God thing) and does not have time to read the bible personally..that is why they are easily brain washed

italo: So are you baptised?

without being told u should know that..yes i am

Syncan: I do not know how what they wrote will be of God when they aren't. I want to know how you knew all Paul wrote is of God when he is subject to error.

Paul was a great man who lay the foundation of this our faith..without that man Christianity for the gentiles wouldnt have be possible..he was a men who was preach to by God Himself....he was caught up into the third heaven three times...he was a men who apron taking from his body heal the seek. who his shadow fall on the sick and they recover..which other proof do u nid

italo: You that asks, why are you still confused?

im not confuse, im only seeking for advice, every great men seek advice..that is what differentiate great men from thee ordinary ones

shdemidemi: seeking knowledge is not confusion, it is actually seeking power.

People like you have your doubts but you will keep your lip zipped to your destruction.

An adage says the man that ask questions rarely get lost.

that is what they do in there church, they hardly ask question..they just do what they are told

italo: You dont know whether you are a baptised christian or not.

Isnt that being confused? (About your baptism at least)

What else is confusion?

i neva told u that i dont knw if i am baptised or not..i just want to knw why pentecostal reject catholic baptism (ie disunity between the two bodies)...try im read the topic of the tgread again...

italo: If you knew the truth, you wouldnt be confused as you are now.

im nt confuse, im jst lukin 4 answers, even great men and kings wth al their wisdow have advisers.

Syncan: So you mean that those men used by God during the selection were holy men of God like those in the Acts 15?

yeah, if nt wat business do they have there

Syncan: Is Scripture now based on what I think? Well some people at the early time, thought that the gospels of Thomas,Mary and Phillip were worth to be included in the canons, yet they were not. Paul was not there when Phillip preached to the Ethiopian eunuch, nor was he there when James preached in Spain. Paul was not there Jesus gave the apostles the mandate to spread the news to "the uttermost end of the earth" (in the absence of Paul). Note that if all the apostles were with Peter on the Issue of Circumcision in Acts 15 (which is not possible,except if its God's desire),Paul would not have continued that teaching.If he had, be sure that you would not have seen it in the bible.

frm ur post u cn see d bible was written by men inspired by God. Using d case of circumsion as an example, if God want d gospel 4 d jews alone, he would have make d jews opinion prevail against dat of paul, he wil nt come frm heaven nd do it, neither wil He b dictating to men on wat to write, bt He wil use event, conventn and d holy spirit to direct the process. Dats wat happened doing d selectn of d bks dat wil feature n our modern day bible, if it was d will of man, by nw we r suppose to have diff versions, since wil nw have pentecostals and catholic.

shdemidemi: That is the direction the Roman Catholic are taking things, very soon they will say the scriptures as we know it is not the word of God.

cn see, they dont even believe their own church

shdemidemi: That is the direction the Roman Catholic are taking things, very soon they will say the scriptures as we know it is not the word of God.

cn u see, they dont even believe themselves

chukwudi44: No way the scriptures available to people of old are not exactly the same as what we have 2day.First of all there was nothing like a collection of scriptures called the bible.

Secondly the biblical authours quoted and recommended books not included in today's bible like the books of Nathan,enoch,Jashar,assumption of moses,wisdom,epistle to the ladociens e.t.c

Don't come here and give me any crap.Thge catholic church of the fourth century only decided to create a canon which they called the bible.The term bible and its creation by the catholic church has no scriptural basis

i thot u were a catholic, r u saying ur church provide us wth scrap to read as bible.
I thnk the bk of wisdow is there which is proverb, Enuch might nt b there, bt his work was made mentn on briefly n d bk of hebrew.
Maybe the scrol of the oda persons were nt found or they r stressing on wat have already b said dat y they were omittd

Syncan: I have done the needed investigation,I never came across Peter, James and John reading the epistle of St. Paul to the Ephesians,but I do read it today.

yeah u r rite, most of their qoute were frm the old testament, which r act/words/bks written by the prophet and the law, they also qoute some of the work of jesus.
Bt these men, peter, paul, james and many more lay the foundatn of our new faith, so we nid to read and learn frm their wk and preaching, do u knw if nt for paul, christianity we neva get to me and u, by the standard of the gentiles ( me and u) r forbiding to preatice christianity. Its God dat use paul to break dat law, dont u thnk such persn work, letter and preaching r worth reading

chukwudi44: @bishopjoeo2

Is the overall catholic population reducing? If 5 people leaves in europe or latin america and 20 joins the church in africa or asia would you still say the population is reducing? Is it not a net increase of +15?

Do you make use of your senses at all

From 290million to 1.2 billion in barely 100 years yet you calim the population is declining.

its declining! Can u imagine the pioneers (EUROPIANS) running away frm their church, even mexico and Brazil which use to b purely catholic r nw leaving the church, and u r telling me all is well.
Africans dont read, they only do wat they r told, dats it increasing there

italo: Thats why I said you should get baptised in Living Faith river.

You dont want to stay; you dont want to leave.

How can we please you?

u nid 2 knw d truth, im stop following wat u were told, read d bible urself

chukwudi44: The same men you refer to gave us the bible.The bible in itself has no scriptural basis and going by your own analogy should be invalid.The collection of scriptures today known as the bible did not exist until the fourth century.

The apostles did not see or use any bible.Even some biblical authours quoted from books outside the bible and even directed us to read those books.

the bible might nt have verse or chapters doing the days of old, if u take ur time to do ur research, u wil undastand it is the same scripture dat d apostle read dat we r stil using today wth a few exceptn.
If we shld b using personal bks to defend our faith, i guess it b totally impossible to convert an unbeliever cos he too have his persönal bk dat support his believe. D bible is jst too unique.

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The Global Catholic Population

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Change in share of Catholics between 1910 and 2010  

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Over the past century, the number of Catholics around the globe has more than tripled, from an estimated 291 million in 1910 to nearly 1.1 billion as of 2010, according to a comprehensive demographic study by the Pew Research Center.

But over the same period, the world’s overall population also has risen rapidly. As a result, Catholics have made up a remarkably stable share of all people on Earth. In 1910, Catholics comprised about half (48%) of all Christians and 17% of the world’s total population, according to historical estimates from the World Christian Database. A century later, the Pew Research study found, Catholics still comprise about half (50%) of Christians worldwide and 16% of the total global population.

What has changed substantially over the past century is the geographic distribution of the world’s Catholics. In 1910, Europe was home to about two-thirds of all Catholics, and nearly nine-in-ten lived either in Europe (65%) or Latin America (24%). By 2010, by contrast, only about a quarter of all Catholics (24%) were in Europe. The largest share (39%) were in Latin America and the Caribbean.



Rapid growth has occurred in sub-Saharan Africa, which today is home to about 171 million Catholics (16%), up from an estimated 1 million (less than 1%) in 1910. There also has been rapid growth in the vast Asia-Pacific region, where 131 million Catholics (12%) now live, up from 14 million (5%) a century ago.

North America’s share of the global Catholic population has increased more slowly, from about 15 million (5%) in 1910 to 89 million (8%) as of 2010.

Though the Middle East and North Africa are the ancient cradle of Christianity, the Middle East-North Africa region is home to less than 1% of Catholics today, about the same as in 1910.

How did the share of Catholics in various regions change between 1910 and 2010? 

While there were dramatic shifts in the regional distribution of the Catholic population between 1910 and 2010, some of this change is due to different rates of overall population growth. Europe, for example, was home to 24% of the people in the world in 1910; as of 2010, just 11% of the world’s population lives in Europe. Meanwhile, Latin America and the Caribbean grew from 4% of the global population in 1910 to 9% in 2010.

Another way to look at the change between 1910 and 2010 is to compare the portion of each region’s population that is Catholic. Latin America was the most heavily Catholic region in both years, but the share of the region’s population that is Catholic decreased from about 90% in 1910 to 72% in 2010. Meanwhile, Europe’s population went from 44% Catholic to 35% Catholic. While both Latin America and Europe became less heavily Catholic over this period, Latin America – which had much larger population growth – eclipsed Europe to become the region with the largest Catholic population in sheer numbers.



As a percentage of regional population, the largest growth occurred in sub-Saharan Africa, which went from about 1% Catholic in 1910 to 21% Catholic in 2010. The Catholic share of the population in the Asia-Pacific region grew from 1% to 3% during this period. Meanwhile, the Catholic share of North America’s population grew from 16% to 26%.

How has the population changed in heavily Catholic countries in the past decade? 

In several countries with large Catholic populations, the share of the populace identifying as Catholic has declined over the last decade. Brazil has the largest Catholic population in the world, but the share of self-identified Catholics in Brazil dropped from approximately three-quarters (74%) in 2000 to about two-thirds (65%) in 2010. Mexico, the country with the second-largest Catholic population in the world, went from about 89% Catholic in 2000 to 85% Catholic in 2010.

What do we know about the U.S. Catholic population? 

The United States is home to about 7% of all Catholics in the world. As of 2010, an estimated 23% of U.S. adults and 24% of the total U.S. population (adults and children) are Catholic
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hahahahaha. Even ur research tells the truth dat catholics r reducing, try and read it again, In Europe, Brazil and Mexico which use to be heavily populatd wth catholic r nw abandoning the church, so go wth america, frm your post the only place were catholic is increasing sub shahara Africa, and it because of the high level of illiteracy
Can u c wth im saying