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Syncan: hahaha, as if the bible fell from the sky unto your lap, with a voice from heaven saying "Behold the word of God, the Pillar of truth, read and interpret according to your understanding".

those are personal book, written by men that were not inspired by God, the bible may nt have fallen frm the sky, it was written by men who lay the foundatn of christianity, rejecting their words mean rejecting the religion.
So those ur qoutes r invalid

Syncan: Its like saying "Is peter the Shepherd of the flock"?. Christ has the eternal claim to both titles, but he clearly made peter his visible representative in both titles when :
(a) He called Simon,kephas/Peter/Rock on whom His church will be built and gave Peter the Keys to the Kingdom(Matt 16:18-19).
(b) Where He told Peter to "Feed my Lamb" and "feed my Sheep" (Jn21:15-17).
This Christianity is about 2000yrs old, so it has its history which part of it is contained in the scriptures. Let me show you something you don't know.


A very very long time ago your question was answered, see the following.

The Letter of Clement to James

"Be it known to you, my lord, that Simon [Peter], who, for the sake of the true faith, and the most sure foundation of his doctrine, was set apart to be the foundation of the Church, and for this end was by Jesus himself, with his truthful mouth, named Peter" (Letter of Clement to James 2 [A.D. 221])
N.B Clement was the Bishop of Rome at this time.


The Clementine Homilies

"[Simon Peter said to Simon Magus in Rome:] ‘For you now stand in direct opposition to me, who am a firm rock, the foundation of the Church’ [Matt. 16:18]" (Clementine Homilies 17:19 [A.D. 221]).

N.B Peter himself understood it so.


Jerome

"‘But,’ you [Jovinian] will say, ‘it was on Peter that the Church was founded’ [Matt. 16:18]. Well . . . one among the twelve is chosen to be their head in order to remove any occasion for division" (Against Jovinian 1:26 [A.D. 393]).

"I follow no leader but Christ and join in communion with none but your blessedness [Pope Damasus I], that is, with the chair of Peter. I know that this is the rock on which the Church has been built. Whoever eats the Lamb outside this house is profane. Anyone who is not in the ark of Noah will perish when the flood prevails" (Letters 15:2 [A.D. 396]).

N.B This Man's work made possible the present bible. There are many more.

were r u getting ur qoute frm, i guess some r nt frm d bible, if so, dey r totalling invalid

shdemidemi: Your church is God's mediator between man and Christ , right?

yeah, u didnt undastand my post. We r suppose to go and preach to unbelievers, nt catholic preaching to pentecostal nd so on

italo: God's Church never chased anyone away. They leave on their own. If they ever wanted to come back on their own, we are ready to meet them with open arms. Like the prodigal son and his father.

dream on boy! Cn u see the populatn of catholic is reducing evry day.

italo: The Church is Christ's, not mine. So winning members for it is winning members for Christ.

we r busy winning soul from church instead of going for unbeliever

shdemidemi: You said the highlighted , didn't you?

My concern here is, are you interested at winning souls for Christ or winning members to your church?

can we all see how resource we all are, imagine all the churches in the world can unitd as one and we turn dis hatred we have for one other into winning, cn u see how effective the gospel wil b

shdemidemi: Bro, when you say nazarim, do you mean he was not allowed to marry?

nazarite ie abstaining frm certain tinx because God. Bt its voluntary.

shdemidemi: Paul said what he said to the church in Corinth because of the gross immorality going on in that city at the time, There was nothing spiritual about it .

1 Timothy 4
King James Version (KJV)
4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

i understand u completely.
But paul was a nazarim, i guess some of d apostles were (unconfirm)

italo: You already know one: their views on baptism. Others are Holy Communion, communion of sins, confession, priesthood, celibacy and many many more.

priesthood is a choice, paul admonish if u knw u cant stay unmarried, marry so as nt to die of lust. Cos evry1 does nt have d same grace. All churches take communion. As 4 d confession members confess their sin to their pastor and seek 4 counselling, bt nt on weekly bases like d catholic

Syncan: Hahaha,you've found a window to escape the truth, yeah it makes great sense to you.

and wats dat truth if i may ask.

Mr knowitall.:
This is a pathetic and lousy attempt to smear a good countries name. The only place that Ghana is going is to the top.

Ghanians involved in criminal acts in Nigeria? Highly unlikely. They are good decent people that don't like to cause

trouble. I suggest you stop your smear campaign and make an effort to be gainfully employed. That is all.

dude r u a Ghanain or ur galfriend is 1. Im nt d author or the person carrying out this act.
And who told u dat Ghanains dont steal?
Good pple, my foot!

italo: Are these not enough to show that they are not one Church?

One says devotion to Mary will bring to Jesus, the other says it will take you to hell.

How can one Church have two different, contradictory faiths?

Bedides, there are tonnes of differences in their doctrines, not just Mary and purgatory.

can u tell me some

shdemidemi: You are getting the whole thing wrong. What do you understand by the body of Christ?

When Christ says 'upon this rock I will build my church', was He referring to Peter or the answer Peter gave which was 'Christ is the son of God'?

u jst gave me insight nto d verse, i neva new wat dat verse was saying until today

Darch: Pls dont mind the OP. Those pictures are actually from a comedy movie though i cant remember the name now.

y nt try and remember.

Syncan: Did you read my post at all? Did i tell you what they do when they are in conflict? Your post suggests that everyone stick to his gun and that my dear is wrong. Acts 15 made it clears that a resolution was reached at the council which favors St. Paul's own view on the matter. So if St. Paul stands on that premise to rebuke Peter, then he is right to insist that Peter stands by the council's declaration. However if the altercation with Peter was before the Council then he was only expressing his on view which was eventually declared correct by the council. Note that it is easier for Paul to err than the council to err, believe me, if that council had proclaimed Paul wrong, you would not have seen those writings of Paul with respect to this opinion of his in the bible today. Its either he may not have written them, or it would have been truncated as not inspired of God. So that council in Acts 15 gave confirmation to what Paul preaches as correct. On Barnabas and Paul, you are yet to tell me that their differences was on issue of Faith.

i guess such council stil exit, ie CAN, bt i dont knw hw effective they r.
Paul and Banarbas have issues n choosing companiön nt faith anyway.

HURUCHI: hmmmmmmmmmm ,what , where ,how ,is , was, why , just don't know what to say

what: 'condom'
where: Earth
how: science
why: protectn
dont knw wat to say: comment ur reserve

Syncan: St.Paul propagated the good news in line with what the apostles teach, it is expected that at the time, that not every thing will be clear to them all, yet when they had a conflict of opinion, they came together in a council (Acts 15). Even St. Paul Identified the apostles as the "foundation" of where he belongs (Eph.2:19-21). Even he had to go back to verify what he is teaching, lest he runs in vain (Gal.2:2). When did your "preacher" start his own and who does he go to for verification,"lest he runs in vain"?

even apostle paul and the 12 disciple have their differences, 1st n d aspect of eating nd associating wth d gentile, paul even have to rebuke peter publicly cos he was ashame to identify wth d gentile cos d Jews was there. Even n d baptism of d gentiles they av their diffs, try nd read d bk of act again.
Paul and barnabas who was choosing to preach d gospel to d gentile have their diffs 2 thats y dey separatd.

italo: If Catholics and Pentecostals are both part of the one Church that Jesus founded, would they preach opposite doctrines?

Will one say there is purgatory and the other say there is no purgatory?

You dont get it. It is not like two brothers fighting. It is like a little child disagreeing with his family about things they taught him, disowning them and going off on his own.

The only difference is that a human family can even teach you the wrong thing, the divine family cannot.

i dont knw were u r getting ur idea frm, apart frm pugatory and mary there is no oda diff btw d catholic nd pentecostal, just as apostle paul was called to preach d gospel to gentile dat hw HE have raise diff men to spread d gospel 2

italo: Why are you confused? Your new-found shop has told you that your Catholic baptism is not valid, meaning you arent baptized. The Catholic Church says you are, and you put on Christ at your infant baptism. One of the two is lying. If the Catholic Church is the liar, why are you hesitating to obey your new shop? If your new shop is the liar, why do you entrust your soul to liars?

Im nt d1 wth a problem, its d church its like two brothers fighting, d church is one weda pentecostal or catholic, dey jst nid to recognise their role n d fullfillment of d gospel and den work hand in hand until d coming of christ

Mrs.Chima:
Glad I don't need it!

Mrs. Chima, u stil a CD if u r married 4 birth control

onyfrank: ok. It happend to me wen i relocated to bayelsa newly. I lookd 4 nearby catholic church, bt didnt c any.
So i joind winners chapel. I was dedicated, joind d santuary unit, bt d pastor keep sayn dat any member dat has nt been baptized by immersion shudnt expect anytn(suport) 4rm d chrch.
So one day i told d pastor that am 4rm catholic, a charismatics member, baptized wen am small.
The pastor said, immersion is hw Jesus wants baptism to b carried out. So i hav to withdraw.

I dnt kmw y pentecostal chrch should keep condemning catholic baptism

it happen to me too, im stil thnking weda to baptise again, dats y i creatd d thread

kreami diva: How will they breathe?

luk at d pic of pple using it, cn u c any suffocatn

The Plumber:
so how will d penetration happen?

provision is made for that in the condom....the thing is elastic now....with a good 'erection' you can push the rubber into any hole

check-out this latest protection device....with this you don't have to bother about STD and AIDS

dridowu: I will get there with Jehovah on my side.

Amen.

Prowizy2: Bcuz of dat Cup of Nations wey Mikel, Moses, Emenike & Onazi help Naija win una dey give Yobo Honour.. Wat haz he won in CLUB FOOTBALL? Own goal specialist b4 Everton shiped him off.. Mtcheeew

Joseph Yobo is from Rivers state, his governor just decided to honor he with those things let the rest footballer goto their state for gifts

RIVERS State Governor, Rotimi Amaechi, has named a street and a N4.3bn football college after Super Eagles captain and Fenerbahce defender, Joseph Yobo.

https://media.punchng.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Joseph-Yobo.jpg Amaechi named the street leading to Adokiye Amiesimaka Stadium in Ikwerre Local Government Area of the state after Yobo to honour the Eagles star for leading the national team to victorious outing at the 2013 Africa Cup of Nations.

He spoke during a state banquet in honour of the footballer at the Government House in Port Harcourt on Saturday.

He said, “We are very proud of you (Yobo) because you played well and have done well for the country; I congratulate you and your wife and I wish you all the best.

“I am building a football college worth N4.3bn, which we shall name after you and we shall deliver it before we leave office. So it will be called Joseph Yobo Football College. The street leading to the new stadium in the new city will be renamed Joseph Yobo Road.”




http://www.punchng.com/sports/amaechi-names-n4-3bn-college-after-yobo/

There is an information reaching me this morning that ghanaians who are residing in shagamu area of ogun state and some other parts of nigeria have been captured and ready for deportation, due to the deportation of some nigerians in ghana who were involved in criminal act....



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GHANA MUST GO !!!




http://news2.onlinenigeria.com/latest-addition/301768-ghanaians-in-nigeria-facing-deportation.html

shdemidemi: No, it is not a requirement.


11 Even so consider yourselves also dead to sin and your relation to it broken, but alive to God [living in unbroken fellowship with Him] in Christ Jesus.

Why should I consider myself dead to sin?

At that moment you accept the gospel of grace/gospel of God- you become a new creation, you are transformed and baptised in to Christ

Romans 6
We were buried therefore with Him by the baptism into death, so that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glorious [power] of the Father, so we too might [habitually] live and behave in newness of life

check-out these important scripture from the new testament showing the importance of baptism

When you came to Christ, you were "circumcised," but not by a physical procedure. It was a spiritual procedure--the cutting away of your sinful nature. For you were buried with Christ when you were baptized. And with him you were raised to a new life because you trusted the mighty power of God, who raised Christ from the dead.” Colossians 2:11-12 (NLT)

“We were therefore buried with Him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.” Romans 6:4 (NIV)

"Peter replied, 'Each of you must turn from your sins and turn to God, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. Then you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.' Those who believed what Peter said were baptized and added to the church--about three thousand in all.” Acts 2:38, 41 (NLT)

Water Baptism is a public testimony - the outward confession of an inward experience. In baptism, we stand before witnesses confessing our identification with the Lord. it show that you have share in the crucifixion of christ

italo: Heretic! Why then, was your beloved St Paul baptized?

Ananias said to Paul:

Acts 22:16 "And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name."

r u na saying the law and commandment n the gospels (mathew to John) r no more important.

shdemidemi: Pls check my initial post again, I added a few more things.

Romans 15
8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:


We have to always remember this, Christ was a minister of Israel during his earthly ministry. Something had to be fulfilled to start a dispensation of grace-

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

All the Jewish ways of doing things, culture, tradition and most especially the law of Moses ended at the point where Christ fulfilled the requirement of the law.

The wages of sin is death. Christ became the sin of the world, he died to pay the wages and fulfilled the requirement of the law.

r u nw saying dat water baptism is no more a requirement to gain enternal life.

shdemidemi: Romans 6
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.


The church generally does not need water baptism in this dispensation of the church. As soon as you believe in the gospel of Christ, you are automatically and spiritually baptised into his death.

John the Baptist said

16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:

The time of John is far gone, this is the dispensation of the Holy Ghost but many still live in the flesh, unfortunately.

i like ur comment, and i agree wth u to a certain extent.
But Jesus said to Nicodemus, "except a Man is born of water and the spirit, he can not enter the kingdom of God (JHN 3:5)"
you just lay emphasis on the spiritual birth.
From the above scripture we can see that the water baptism is extremely important too.