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onyfrank: Bt u guys hav nt answered d question, y pentecostals rejects catolic baptism.

thanks, im stil waiting 4 some1 to provide d ans

israel007: If una like make una no carry am from inside that water. When. It happens now u will say its the devil

bros filè notin go happen

italo: The word "bible" does not appear in this your "history."

What sort of fake history would not even tell us how the name came about?

Can you tell Nigeria's history without mentioning "Nigeria?"

Where do the books of Acts of Peter, Gospel of Barnabas fit into this your history?

are u sure u r a student....im given u the history of the bible u are talking about a common name...how are u sure is even catholic that call that holy book bible self.....do u have prove

italo: Exactly what I am saying. You are a customer of Oyedepo and his shop, I am a follower of Christ and his Church.

It is the Catholic Church that brought about the Bible.

Doesnt that tell you the whole story?

Here is a short history of the Bible.

1. Old Testament

The Old Testament was written by Moses, David and Solomon, prophets, seers and kings. There was no "church" of any kind to claim responsibility for it. God inspired individuals to bring God's word to the people. The Old Testament is the recorded revelation of God up until about 400 BC.

2. The Inter-Testamental Period

The time between about 400 BC and about 5 BC is usually called the Years of Prophetic Silence. This is because God created a process that lasted 400 years to create a world climate ready for the coming of the promised Messiah. There was no "church" at this time, either. But there was the new creation of the "synagogue," since the Jewish people needed to worship God and did not have the Temple when they were in exile. When many came back 400-500 BC, they already had functional synagogues; and even though the Temple was being rebuilt by those returning from exile, the synagogue idea remained and more were built. This was the beginning of the "congregation" or "church" as we have it today.

But there was no Scripture being written during this period. That was yet to come after one came "in the spirit and power of Elias" (Luke 1:17).

3. The Time of Christ

It is likely that Matthew (Levi) the tax collector and later disciple of Jesus took notes of what happened during Jesus' ministry. However, it is also true that were God in the flesh living among you, His words would burn into your soul. I am sure, as the apostles clearly recollected as they wrote the New Testament (2 Peter 1:16-21; 1 John 1:1-3; 4:14), they could not escape the image and words of Jesus Christ, God the Son and Son of God, when He spoke into their hearts (Luke 9:44; 24:32).


The Church Age

When the apostles wrote their letters, the congregations received them. They read them. They spread them. They copied them for other brethren in Christ Jesus. And they recognized their authority in the Christian's life. So the Scriptures were produced by men of God, not by "the church." But they were produced FOR the church.

The last book of the Bible was Revelation, written about 96 AD, just before the apostle John died around 100 AD. After the apostles died, the churches continued to collect the letters they did not have, to read them and understand the authority under God by which they wrote.he flesh living among you, His words would burn into your soul. I am sure, as the apostles clearly recollected as they wrote the New Testament (2 Peter 1:16-21; 1 John 1:1-3; 4:14), they could not escape the image and words of Jesus Christ, God the Son and Son of God, when He spoke into their hearts (Luke 9:44; 24:32).

big-t:
wonders shall truly never cease.

end time tins...

most we read religion to everything....this African mentality we do this continent no good oh...it is like you don't know the power of the mind....

A Dutch journalist has been raped by several men in Cairo's Tahrir Square as millions of protestors took to the streets to demand President Mohammed Morsi to step down.

The news of the attack came as the Egyptian army issued a 48-hour deadline for the deadly clashes to be resolved - so far eight people have been killed and hundreds injured.

The woman was allegedly raped 'by men who dub themselves revolutionists,' according to Egypt 25’s reporter Dina Zakaria.

The horrifying rape is reminiscent of the violence at Tahrir Square in 2011 when CBS foreign correspondent Lara Logan was beaten and sexually assaulted by a 200-strong mob.

According to Ynetnews, the state hospital issued a statement saying the women was admitted after being raped by five men several days ago.


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The website reported the journalist underwent surgery and has been released.

This morning women's activists said at least 43 females, including a foreign journalist, suffered organised sexual assaults by gangs of men in recent days.


Egypt's military has given its president and his opponents a 48 hour 'last chance' to reach an agreement to 'meet the people's demands' before it intervenes in the dispute.

Hundreds of thousands of protesters massed for a second day today calling on President Mohammed Morsi to step down.

Egypt's military described the mass protests yesterday that brought out millions demanding Morsi's removal as 'glorious', and said protesters expressed their opinion 'in peaceful and civilized manner,' and that 'it is necessary that the people get a reply ... to their calls.

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The military underlined it will 'not be a party in politics or rule.' But it said it has a responsibility to act because Egypt's national security is facing a 'grave danger,' according to a statement read out on state television.

'The Armed Forces repeat its call for the people's demands to be met and give everyone 48 hours as a last chance to shoulder the burden of a historic moment for a nation that will not forgive or tolerate any party that is lax in shouldering its responsibility,' it said.

It did not directly define 'the people's demands,' but said if they are not realized, the military is obliged to 'announce a road-map for the future and the steps for overseeing its implementation, with participation of all patriotic and sincere parties and movements'

It is the second ultimatum to be given to Mr Morsi and the opposition to reach an agreement. Last Sunday, defence minister Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi gave the two sides a week to reach an agreement.

The organizers of yesteday's protests also gave Mr Morsi a Tuesday 5pm deadline to step down or face an escalation of the campaign to force him out, including civil disobedience.

Hours earlier protesters stormed the headquarters of Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.


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italo: The Catholic Church.

St Paul went to the Apostles to be commissioned...and St Paul never founded a Church.

St Paul went preaching the teachings of the one true Church...and even went to get clarification on his preaching from the apostles.

Who gave Oyedepo permission to found his personal Church and preach his personal doctrine? Who does he seek clarification from?

Paul have followers, thousands of them, which can be call members why he is the pastor, just the way David Oyedepo have members and he is the pastor. that is why i told you not to call the biblical christian church...its a disciple and follower thing then..if u relate it to today church, we can call Davide Oyedepo a leader why the members are the followers.

David Oyedepo get his clarification fromm the bible and the holy spirit..."i will send u the comforter which will teach u all teaches"

were is it in the bible that catholic church is the first church.

At just 16 months old (a year and six months), this baby is unlikely to have been walking for long, let alone mastered any other physical activities.

But this incredible footage shows the tiny toddler swimming unaided and looking completely comfortable in the water.

The fearless baby swims face down, turning on her back to rest when she needs to breathe.


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The infant even jumps in, without arm bands, and swims to the far side of the pool unaided, without even taking a breather.

The remarkable feat has received much criticism from viewers on youtube.com.

In particular people are concerned the baby is being forced to swim when she is tired and doesn't want to.



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italo: When was it founded?

It is the one Jesus referred to as "my church" 2000years ago, or is it David Oyedepo's "church?"

it was founded by Bishop David Oyedepo in 1981.

Apostle Paul wrote more than half of the new testament of the bible, and this said apostle was not a direct disciple of Jesus, but a later convert after the death of Christ...just the way God instruct Paul to continue with His work, the same way HE is raising men to preach the gospel today...if the work of God was left for the 12 disciple alone, i doubt if the gospel will spread beyond Jerusalem..

Just as Catholic church only can not spread the gospel to the whole world.

And what is the name of this first church founded by Jesus

italo: You havent even tried to describe the shop in which you worship.

i worship in a church not a shop...WINNER CHAPEL AKA LIVING FAITH CHURCH

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italo: The only one Christ founded.

In which of the shops do you worship?

and wats d name of dis church

italo: "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."--Jesus Christ.

oop! My bad
if u use d word church it kind of segregate d church. Family is d beta word 4 d biblical church

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Zimcopter II, Zimbabwe

Zimcopter chopper made from aluminium sheets and an engine cannibalised from an old French Citroen motor vehicle.

Africans r trying, wth d right leader and alittle effort frm we youth, africa wil definitely b d last resort of d world

italo: The same Bible that Catholics compiled. Bible also is not written in the Bible.

Who started your shops?

How many Churches did Jesus found?

Jesus did not actually found any church, he raised a family. And doing the persecutn of d church then, most of the pple move to diff part of d world to preach, which cn b likely to the establishment of diff church n our time, bt wth diff motive.
The bible say 'the end wil nt come until the word of God is being preach to the end of the world' catholic alone can't achieve dis, neither wth it b achieve wth d present disunity n our church.

italo: Are you against my person or are you against my argument?

If I have told a lie, point it out.

How can you defend God and righteousness if you have an erroneous idea of who God is and what rihhteousness is?

Which of d church do u worship?

italo: Every faker tries to run down the original. Try buying a fake designer shirt and the seller will make it look as if there is nothing special about the original. He may even say bad things about the original because thats the only way he can get customers to appreciate his fake. But the original seller will not even see the fake as something worthy of discussion. That is what is happening between Catholic Church and other Christian shops.

Ask them who started their shops and when. God or man?

Ask them how many Churches Jesus founded. One or one billion?

dude the world is made of billions of pple Catholic alone cn nt spread d Gospel to the end of the world.
Pls watch ur utterances cos he dat sin against d holy spirit wil not b forgiven.
It is nt written in the bible dat d first church was catholic.

Dude, i dont thnk anybody is faking anytin, i jst want to knw d reason 4 the cold conflict btw the two parties

Does it matter were the baptism is done, al dat matter here is d faith of d person.
Most pentecostal churches n big city have built a semi swimming pool n their premieses were baptism is done, thereby nt following the biblical style of taking members to the river 4 d act.
To me some1 who deep his member nto a pool and the oda dat wash her members head doing baptism r the same.

Why are most christian after being converted from catholic into any of the pentecostal church are required to be baptise again. What is the big different between baptism by immersion and that of the catholic.

D latest n 9ja, if u av any problem, jst go to social network and paste it, try to b passionate and if u by chance make frontpage n nairaland u wil b surprise hw much u wil raise.
9ja my country

hw much Seun wan donate? he na celebrity too na!

Mjjordan: dey r nt made in nigeria..bt made in africa..y dis ppl dey beaf us wit wrong informations na!smh!!!!!

they r made n Nigeria, its only 1 dats made n Kenya.

Babzilla: I DONT KNOW HOW THIS IS PROGRESS
THE FIRST HELICOPTER PROBABLY FLEW IN 1907
OVER A CENTURY AGO & ITS NOW
SOME PEEPS ARE REINVENTING THIS
AND TS NOT GURANTEED TO FLY
& U CALL IT PROGRESS
I WEEP 4 'MAMA' AFRIKA
SMH

dude, wth proper equipment and funding, these guys cn make sometin beta, compare to millions of oda 9ja youth who does nt av any idea at al

I make FP! Dis cal 4 celebratn.

MOD nxt tym, jst do alittle editting

These unusual looking planes are the creations of amateur engineers in Africa who have made their own jets - often just using scarp metal, a book guide and a lot of improvisation.

Despite their lack of material, training and money, these determined aviation-enthusiasts have managed to build their own machines.

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• Illusionist Steven Frayne travelled across Westminster Bridge with one had placed on top of 15ft bus
• Stunned fans look on from inside the bus, taking pictures of the floating magician
• Entertainer to the stars worked on the stunt in partnership with Pepsi Max
• Caused a stir in 2011 when he 'walked' across the River Thames in publicity stunt

He has stunned audiences with jaw-dropping stunts that defy logic and can make the most skeptical cynic believe in magic.
But in an daring new act, Bradford-born Illusionist Dynamo today took his impressive skills to even greater heights.
The 30-year-old entertainer took in London's sights by levitating beside the roof of a 15ft double-decker bus.
Smiling for the cameras, Dynamo, whose real name is Steven Frayne, travelled alongside the two-storey bus with the palm of his hand placed on the roof.
He hung in mid-air with his other arm outstretched as he crossed Westminister Bridge. A police escort cleared the way for Frayne's daring feat, ensuring there was no traffic around the bus.
People on the bus took pictures of the 'you have to see it to believe it' moment.
The trickster's levitating act, in partnership with Pepsi MAX had onlookers asking 'Where are the wires?'
He gained notoriety when he 'walked' across the river Thames in 2011 to promote a new series of his show Magician Impossible.
Frayne has built his name on the celebrity circuit, astounding famous names with his tricks.

His previous tricks have included apparently walked across the River Thames, in front of the Houses of Parliament, making Little Britain star Matt Lucas levitate before a live audience at Arsenal's Emirates Stadium, and turning signed lottery tickets into cash in front of Robbie Williams and Davina McCall.


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Ikenna351: In other words, you are saying "The most fuel efficient cars in Nigeria" ? In that case, you could be right, since we dont drive diesel cars here. But if you are saying Hybrid cars are the most economical cars in Nigeria (both fueling and repair cost), then you may have to try harder to convince me. All the money the car is saving for you in fueling her, one replacement of battery will consume the whole money saved, if not more. Are you aware that one can get a clean tokunbo car at 700k+, which the hybrid battery cost? It may be cheaper to fuel, but expensive to maintain.

You were right about the cost of running a diesel car (expensive parts), which may end up doing the samething hybrid cars do when they have bettery issues. But, the fact remains that diesel cars consume less than petrol cars, no matter how you want to look at it. Note that we have hybrid diesels as well. So, the hybrid petrol cars and diesel cars are almost the same when it comes to general maintenance cost.

Yes, my D9 V6 has averaged 40 mpg on few occassions when not in the mood for speed on expressways. With manual transmission, you can get amazing fuel economy out of a V6, which depends on your style of driving.

Ikenna

thanks dude, n d lng run it seems my thread is stil valid

Ikenna351: Op,

Don't believe everything you read!

That could be the most fuel efficient cars in USA, but not in the world. What makes you think all cars use in Europe and other continents are sold in USA & Canada? Whoever did that analysis or comparism did that with cars used in USA and Canada as well.

You are talking of fuel efficient cars, yet you excluded diesel cars? What about Peugeot 508 (diesel) that average 74 mpg on highway? And you are saying cars with 42 mpg are the most fuel efficient cars in the world? If that is the case, what about my 406 V6 that average 40 mpg on expressway on average speed (that is, when am not heavy footed)? This is 2000 model car we are talking about and a V6 for that matter. Yet someone is boasting of 44 mpg in a 2012 car and 4 cylinder for that matter?

If we are to say the most fuel efficient cars, then petrol cars shouldnt be in that list. Americans dont drive diesel cars, just like we do in Nigeria. So, thats why that list has only petrol cars.

The title of the topic should be limited to US and petrol should be more appropriate in this case.

Like i said, don't believe everything you read.

Ikenna.

buddy i start by giving the definition of hybrid cars, Hybrid vehicles are called hybrids because they use both a small internal combustion engine (ICE) and an electric motor to obtain maximum power and fuel economy with minimum emissions. How they do this varies from one model to another, with varying success.

What all hybrids have in common is the ability to generate electric current, store it in a large battery, and use that current to help drive the car.
Hybrids can also conserve energy by shutting down the ICE when the vehicle is in Park, idling at a light, or stopped in traffic, or when the electric motor’s energy is sufficient to drive the vehicle without assistance from the ICE.

the above list cars in my thread are not rare cars found only in the USA only, these are everyday cars found mostly in Nigeria, just try and take a look at the list again.

did u say ur 406 V6 average 40 mpg, how is that possible, i thot all V6 are fuel sucker.

"What about Peugeot 508 (diesel) that average 74 mpg on highway?" diesel engines are better on the highway and hybrids are better in city, so because of the traffic jam in most city in Nigeria, hybrid cars are still the most recommendable because of their fuel economical ability.
the only issue with hybrid cars is the battery problem, apart from that all other parts are just like the normal car..but diesel cars have high maintenance cost..so every penny you save in diesel you end up spending it in the mechanic workshop.

sultaan: Where is the Nissan Leaf and Chevy Volt on your list?

Nissan leaf and chevy volt r special cars that use both electric and fuel, also their prices are considerable high. I only concentrated on cars that can be use and maintain in Nigeria.

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xerotop: Of what use is the hybrid when normal cars e.g honda civic can do 27/36?
My wifes honda civiv does 25 city and over 34 hwy. a 1.6lL I4.
Now lets do some maths,
Honda civic hybrid frm this thread 44/44. Which is not up to 2 times what my woman' s civic consume.
45 ltrs thank, filled 2X monthly if i dont travel with it.

Now lets compare dis with a civic hybrid of 44/44 with a very expensive repair waiting for you wen the inverter gets drained. Hybrid parts not readily available in nigeria.and still do 44 mpg compared to my 34 notmally?
Is it worth it? NO.

Someone once posted he spent 720k on importing toyota highlander inverter. How much be d car sef?

Y will people want to buy car and not want to buy Fuel?

U av money to buy a car worth millions of naira but u dont have money to buy fuel
Dem force u buy car?
My conclusion;
All dis cars r not hybrid until they start doing about 2000 mpg city and 4000 mpg hwy.

May be till then i will get one. Lols

car manufacturals r nt magicians, frm my thread u cn c there is a significiant diff btw d hybrid nd d normal cars. Hybrid part r nw available n nigeria, cos most person r driving them. If u convert the numba of hours pple spend on lagos traffic to money, u undastand y hybrid cars shld b make mandatory 4 evry1 living n lagos.