Kobojunkie:
Read what Jesus Christ said of it in John 3 vs 1 - 21. That is want I comprehend as related to this topic of baptism.

That verse has nothing whatsoever to talk about water baptism in literal meaning. If you don't truly understand the concept of water baptism you'll never understand what that particular verse is.....to be born of water and Spirit......
The Holy Bible is not a literature book.

Michael547:

So if Jehovah's witnesses are not of God, do you know of any other ministry that does what the Bible says concerning Baptism as you have described?
Or what denomination do you associate with that does what you explained about Baptism?

Explain to me first what I said about baptism, let me be assured you understood my statement.
Your statement seems like JW follows the Bible way of baptism.......well, just you know, a man being religious does not in any way make such approved of by God.

Hanndye:

"at least that's what's practiced...." Practiced by who? Jehovah witnesses or early Christians? Certainly early Christians didn't practice this. Every conversion in the Bible is acomplished with baptism. No, no exception. But you can go ahead and show me any exception, though. And everyone is baptized as soon as they indicate their willingness to do so. Jesus says everyone who comes to Him has learned from the Father.

What is being practiced now is not what was practiced by the early Christians as contained in the Holy Bible. Every ministry has their own doctrines practiced as believed to come forth from the Holy Bible.
Jehovah Witness is a sect of their own and not of God.


Jesus did not say all who come to Him has learned from Him........
It is come to Him and learn. There should be a willingness to learn and even that does not mean one has learned or is learning from Him.

Hanndye:

The question is: can you be saved, through Christ, without being a Christian? Because the Bible talks about putting on Christ at Baptism. When being baptized, I was asked to affirm my faith in Christ.

Gal 3:27 does not really talk about a literal baptism being done if that's what you mean. It's more of a spiritual thing.
Now if you take it to be literal/physical(by the letter), we all know that it's not all who are baptized that have put on Christ Jesus. Yes, you can have an assumption but it's not all. When you have said to have put on Christ Jesus, it means you are completely dead to sin. That is who Jesus Christ. The one who beareth the sin but yet without sin.


There's a skewed definition about who a Christian is that we have all come to accept which is a complete deviation from what's in the Bible. I am very such you know where the name of christian originate and I also know you're aware of the reason it came forth through the mouth of an unbeliever addressing the early apostles.

A man does not put on Christ because he undergoes baptism. No, that's unscriptural from my own understanding. Amongst many other interpretations, baptism is symbolic and an open declaration of the faith you have come to accept. The immersion in the water is symbolic that one is completely dead to sin(s) and the coming out of the water is that the individual is now renewed. Like I said this is just all symbolic to your accepted faith. That is why after one receives an altar call, he/she goes through discipleship class(foundation class for new convert) and made to understand what it entails to become a Christian and live as same. It is after this process that you go for baptism....
at least that's what's practiced....

Kobojunkie:
Here's a simple question for you. Where in the Gospels is Jesus Christ written to have said anything along the lines of if you confess confess your sins you will be saved(Salvation), or that if you ask for forgiveness of sins you will be saved? Let's start there.

What is your understanding of what it means to be born again or be saved(to have received salvation)?
Please use the Bible verse as quoted by Jesus Christ...

Kobojunkie:
Scripture is not the problem here. What contains no tangible takeaway is the response you attempted to weave from what is boldly proclaimed in Scripture.
Again, what is it that you claim that passage says? Speak up make we hear you.

What you can't comprehend you'll never understand.

YungTemy:
So Muslims or followers of other religions worshiping the Almighty God, who haven't been baptized, aren't eligible for Salvation?

No matter what religion one claim to be of, you cannot worship God without first to have acknowledged Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the giver of God's Salvation unto mankind. He is our Saviour and Lord. If you miss Him, you miss God's Salvation for your soul.

Read this verses well and ask yourself if Isam is of God to bring Salvation....

These verses below talks about Islam and what it entails....

Gal.4.21 - Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law?
Gal.4.22 - For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman.
Gal.4.23 - But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise,
Gal.4.24 - which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar--
Gal.4.25 - for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children--
Gal.4.26 - but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Gal.4.27 - For it is written: "Rejoice, O barren, You who do not bear! Break forth and shout, You who are not in labor! For the desolate has many more children Than she who has a husband."
Gal.4.28 - Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise.
Gal.4.29 - But, as he who was born according to the flesh then persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, even so it is now.
Gal.4.30 - Nevertheless what does the Scripture say? "Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman."
Gal.4.31 - So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman but of the free.

Kobojunkie:
Wow... so many words yet nothing tangible to be taken from it.How come?

2. Tell us, what does it mean apart from what it clearly said which is that some dead rose from the grave over 2000 years ago and proceeded into Jerusalem after Jesus Christ also was raised??

If you read Scripture and can still say there's nothing tangible to be taken from it then it clearly shows either you are completely blinded in understanding (literal and spiritual) or possibly you're full of deceit and mischief just like Satan.

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It is not I who said that God did not promise them His kingdom but nairaland's Kobojunkie who goes around the platform doing the work of his master who is full of deceit.

Expanse2020:

So they are just sinners like us.. they may not make heaven... because they are not children of God

They will make heaven if they died in the Lord.
There's a reason why Jesus spoke about the parable of the rich man and the poor man who both died. One found himself in Hell and the other I guess you already know. The rich man was even begging Abraham.........

Understanding the Scripture is paramount to the wholesome believe and faith of the Christian.

Matt.27.52 - and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised;
Matt.27.53 - and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many.



I hope you understand what the above Bible verse means. It's simple.

There are other verses as proofs also but it all depends on your level of understanding to accept them.

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid all of what you describe above are religious gibberish fed to you by your religious overlords or masters, and have nothing to do with what is in fact stated in the Gospels by Jesus Christ Himself..

2. Sorry, not true.

May the Lord be merciful to you for your lack of understanding of His Word.

Hanndye:
After the Outer-call or on the radio, after preaching, the preacher would ask those who wish to give their lives to Jesus to repeat certain words after him calling Jesus into their lives. Is this right and Baptism not neccesary?

That Altar-Call is a confession of sins unto a profession of repentance and upholding of the new faith, which by those words is bound on you as a new believer welcomed into the vineyard of God the Father through His Son Christ Jesus.
The essence of the Baptism is a public declaration that you have accepted Christ Jesus and your Saviour and Lord over your life and you are now to be counted as members who have been delivered from darkness into His marvelous light of Jesus Christ.
All these are Scriptural and you can't do otherwise for it is an obedience we ought to keep.

sonnie10:

Someone like Asari Dokubo would need additional help to be shoved into this space.

FreeStuffsNG:
Call to duty is service to humanity. He should please serve o.

He should please ignore those who want to blackmail him to reject the offer to serve his fatherland.

There's a reason why the video is coming out now from the social media constituency of Shehu Sani and it's for political reason, not for patriotic or altruistic reasons. He should not fall for the blackmail.

He has learnt a lesson from this and next time will make such statements conditional like when Pastor Bakare prophesied that Pa Obj will die in office and later said God must have changed his mind after intercession. If God, the immortal invincible all-knowing can change His mind for a cause, HE El Rufai, a mortal who doesn't even know all can not be faulted after learning he was inaccurate when making that illustration based on his presumption about the future.

Nigeria still needs that his 1st Class brain, intellect , experience and his can-do spirit. Check my signature for free stuffs!

What manner of black mail are you talking about? Did anyone force his mouth when he spoke those words?
If he truly has even the slightest form of integrity he would recommend another to take that ministerial position given to him. If you feel that there are no first class brains, intellect, experience and can do spirit of lesser age then it shows the level of our degredation.

ManirBK:


https://dailytrust.com/offensive-video-muric-knocks-davido-asks-dss-to-invite-him/

Muric talks about infringement against them yet they too also through their statements and members infringe on the lives of others. While you claim someone infirnges on your right and religion you also infirnges on the lives of others against the constitution of the nation.
Does the koran not tell your lots to respect the constitution of the nation or is there a different constitution been ran by members of Muric and the moslem community in Nigeria.

limited space...

ceejayluv:

Next of kin has no basis. It's just someone that can be contacted if the owner is not reachable or deceased. I can use your name as next of kin but will the same land to an orphanage.

Yes, a written will overrides that. But be sure to know that everything is contestable in the court to ensure that when the will was written the person was in good mental frame.

Ijelenwanyioma:
I am legally married to this man and we have 3 sons together. Recently he purchased some land which he actually told me about but when I checked the documents of all the land I only saw Mr(his name in full) and not Mr & Mrs (his name and surname) or Mr (his name ) and Mrs (My name ). This really gave me great concern and when I asked him, he told me it doesn't really count because the properties also belong to my children. Later he started accusing me that I am nursing ulterior motive in my heart and maybe I want to take over the properties which is blantly lies. I just want to feel ownership of the land too

Please am I overreacting on this issue truly or my husband is planning something behind me ( maybe remarrying)

If there's actually anything to be worried about then it should be whose name is as next of kin on his documents.
As regards the Mr and Mrs being written on property documents I think it would be wise for you if you inquire from a lawyer if such is useful in the Nigerian court and can be used as proof of ownership even if one person is no longer alive.

Couldntfigurean:
I pity those Igbo people in APC thinking that APC will favour them and their family,APC can’t and won’t favour you if you ain’t a northerner or Muslim

When we talk about Islamization,some people think it’s a joke,they think they can only be Islamized by conquest

What do you mean by favour not being given to the East from APC?
Firstly, what has the East done with all the favour they have received from PDP from 1999 till 2015 that it was out of the central government?
It all lies in the hands of the East to change their way of politics and reasoning towards politicking...
PBAT is a different crop of politician and he is not interested in much talk and fantasies.

Good morning Engineers, Architects, Builders and Contractors and Clients....
Please can anyone help me with the price of sharp sand, granite, 16mm, 12mm rods and labour for foundation excavation in Enugu State?
I'll really appreciate. Thanks.

001Lagos:

I like him because he's not tribalistic like Bola Tinubu

The one you say is not tribalistic is someone during his tenure as governor sacked his fellow kinsmen just because they were not from Anambra!!! Please are Abians, Ebonyins, Enugu, Imolites, not igbos/ibos also? If this had happened in any of the SS/SW/Northern parts we would have the social media house shouting tribalism.......
Please tell us what does that show case?

Cmeo:
This development is not bad. I think its part of the plan to help our credit system.

With this, it will be easy to use vehicle to access credit/loan so far your proof of ownership is established and current.

Think it again.
It's like when they say the CBN through the banks needs your social media handle before you can operate an account with them.

Sitwalkstand:
I am not a Tinubu fan but i don't have problem with this policy but for few concerns.

Here is why.

In England, you pay 3 things on a car mandatorily. These are Road tax. you pay tax to government for using their road. Every car in UK pays this. UK government makes billions of pounds every year from it. We pay insurance and we do MOT every year.

The government needs money to run things. Nigeria is owing almost 50 trillion. That debt needs to be paid.

Here is my concern with this policy

Timing: Nigerian's are suffering already. You removed Subsidy that skyrocketed commodity price and PMS price without anything to cushion the effect on the people.
The price should be reduced to 300 naira which will give government 30 billion each year assuming we have 100 million cars. 30 billion can do a lot on roads in a year.

Whatever takes money out of people's lean pocket should be avoided for now.

Electricity bill is going up in July

We don't have data to track all cars in Nigeria to ensure compliance. Agbero will harass Nigerians unnecessarily. making life hell for motorists.

Ogas at the top will print receipts and take the cash away except where it must be directly paid to the bank and online receipt generated which road safety can verify on the go when they ask a driver.

Tinubu handlers should tell him that those hailing him will soon join those mocking him if the policies do not have human face.

People are already suffering.

Your post is faulty but let's address the bolded above.
The FG can't be taxing vehicles to use the road, there are also State and Local Government owned roads. Please stop comparing the UK policy with that of Nigeria, it's irritating.


If the FG wants to pay the loan they borrowed they should find other ways to pay it and not transfer it on the masses. If you take a loan from the bank do you go and meet someone else to pay it !!!!
This administration will be known for all manners of taxation.

nairalandkachy1:


https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2023/06/27/breaking-fg-imposes-n1000-annual-fee-on-motorists-for-proof-of-ownership-certificate/?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter

The FG is over stepping her boundaries. You can't place a yearly tax on vehicles when thr roads in country is not owned by the FG alone. There are also SG and LG roads.
I just hope this administration does not want to turn into an all round tax collector.
I expect the States to kick against such. The FG can reintroduce toll gates if they choose to on their high ways in the 6 geo political zones.

Zeal0000007:
I and my gal are planning settling down despite genotype not matching , she's AS same with me, but because of medical technological advancements, we visited a specialist who told us that we can still marry if we so desired to be together.

Just that If we can afford the cost of going for foetus testing whenever she's pregnant so as to ascertain the genotype of the child. According to him if the test is conducted and it turns out to be AA or AS, we can keep it, but if it's SS we determate, I have spoken to my gal and we are yet a decide despite this seeming goodnews that we can still be together if we choose to, she really wanted us together same with me.
On my part, I have been in terrible and toxic relationship for the past 4years that almost claimed my life but God served from her. And this my current gal came along and she's exactly what I prayed God for, she's really like a gift to me, since she came I have had peace of mind I don't want to loose her because of genotype but thank God for this technically medical advancement , please I want to know if anyone have undergone this treatment before , what's your experience or experiences

If the bolded is true.....then put your faith in God and you don't have to depend on any technically medical advancement...
God is way better than any technically medical advancement.

Good day.
Please I'll appreciate if you can give me the cost/breakdown of installing a solar panel, inverter, battery, cables, etc, etc.. Basically it's just to power light for 3 bulbs, 2 sockets(15A/13A) and 1 ceiling fan. Light duration should be maximum of 5 hours daily.
Thanks.

thebosstrevor1:


the function of a POS isnt only to withdraw, you can also transfer. There will be more people transferring. POS is for cashless transaction

even in the CBN memo it is written clearly that Banks should encourage customers to use other alternative channels like online banking, POS, enaira and USSD.

Why am I transferring money through the POS from my account into another account when I have a phone to do same thing?

POS will just be out of business if care is not taken if we intend to do cashless in it's real sense. All it takes is every business owner(products) having a POS to accept payments from people who don't know how to used bank apps or ussd codes for payments.

thebosstrevor1:


it won't hinder POS biz, it is business as usual btw, you cant compare the transition from paper airtime to a bank airtime with the POS business, POS is part of the cashless initiative

the amount of atm facilities is not enough for people, so they tend to use POS service

POS works like your atm in some ways, you can transfer to another account, pay for goods and a lot more

so the cashless policy is more of a supporter of POS because POS is also part of the cashless system

I don't think you understand how the POS service functions....
Nevertheless I don't think there's less ATM points across the country. The reason why many patronize POS for one reason is because of the queue you'll either meet at the ATM points or even inside the banking halls because we are a people always in a hurry to some non existent place.

michlins:
you're right but Nigeria situation is very unique. The executive system of government we practice is so ridiculous that only the president control almost everything. If we get it right,he can effect the needed changes that will trickle down to everywhere.

Let's say the president appoints an IG of police who has zero tolerance for road blocks and extortion,same officer knows commanding officers who are of like minds and so it trickles down to DPOs who command the officers on the road and ready to fire erring ones. Nigeria is top-down command system and not ground -up

The believe system of top-down command is the reason why the country seems not be progressing. The kind of progress we are celebrating is an artificial type.
At all levels everyone is expected to work with tangible results and not one arm depending on the other.
How can a trader in a remote village be blaming the President when he has the Counselor of his ward to attend to his matters and even the LGA Chairman....
We all need to change our mindset in the way that the nation will truly see growth in it's entirety.

erico2k2:

what you described up there is a One bed flat. Self-contain is an equivalent of a studio flat.

Some years ago I travelled to go see one of my female friends in Warri and when we attended church together she introduced me to her Pastor who asked me which kind of house I was staying in and I said a One bed flat and his face changed and he was kind of quiet for a while and the female friend had to tell him it's a Self contain and it's been called a One bedroom flat in my area and he was smiling. What they call a Self contain is a Squatter or thereabout. I guess it's their own terminology.

Ogborokiri:
Good morning please just one self contain this engineer is saying 1.4 million to raise it to lintel level please is the amount okay the location is delta state

A self contain in Delta State has this features : lounge, bedroom, kitchen and your bathroom/toilet. I hope that's what it is and not bedroom, kitchen and bathroom/toilet as it is in some other States'.

Streetpriest1:



Good day sir,
Pls I would be grateful if you could send me the soft copy of NEBOSH.

Please can you kindly also send the soft copy of it to this email....... brittlebishop@gmail.com.
Thanks.