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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:33pm On May 12, 2021
n3xt:


I don’t buy all those online scams anymore. I once did and ended up spending thrice what I’d have spent engaging a professional here in Nigeria to handle the job for me (including support). Yet we couldn’t achieve our goal cry

Over $800 went down the drain. The worse part is the guy is charging me additional $50 to revisit the project.

If na here I pay $800 with nothing to show for it, the news will permanently be on nairaland front page for years.



Whoever said experience is the best teacher did not try at all.......

I think NL should have a continent of her own.
grin grin
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 7:38pm On May 12, 2021
n3xt:


Nothing wey we no go see for nairaland.

See below

Pic 1: I will convert
Pic 2: I will redraw

As a man of my word, I’ll share a pdf plan to be converted by anyone here or on fiverr, freelancer... for $50.

Let’s see miracle workers!


Many of our problems is in the pix........

Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 7:25pm On May 12, 2021
n3xt:


Smiles.

How else would he have done it without access to the original CAD files? Or maybe the architects’ contract with the client include DWG file sharing.

I say this because we see it happening ALL the time since the dawn of CAD as a drafting tool.

You remember that year we just make changes on the ground with a stick of broom and afterwards we effect changes on the structure.......... grin

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 7:20pm On May 12, 2021
n3xt:


Smiles.

How else would he have done it without access to the original CAD files? Or maybe the architects’ contract with the client include DWG file sharing.

I say this because we see it happening ALL the time since the dawn of CAD as a drafting tool.


You remember that year we just make changes on the ground with a stick of broom and afterwards we effect changes on the structure.......... grin

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 7:18pm On May 12, 2021
diordaves:


Don't look down the professional ladder with ridicule. There is a marked difference between an architect and a draughtsman. This is not contestable. However, each has its role in the building and technical trade.

We know an Architect is required to study at a university for 5 -7 years with a minimum of two years of practical experience in an Architect’s office before they can sit registration exams, allowing them to practice independently. Or something close. A good degree in Architecture will normally focus on studying form, functions, and the three-dimensional interpretation of space. We also know that an Architect is better at seeing the entire scope of the project and design, contemplating not only the size of a space but also the flow of the layout, the functionality of the space.

However, this is not to look down on a draughtsman. A Draughtsman will typically study a two-year diploma in drafting at a technical school or Polytechnic. A Draughtsman, being trained in technical drawing and construction, will produce drawings that will work, but MAY lack the creativity and ingenuity in design. An architect can also fall prey to this as well.

If the project is a big construction project, particularly if it’s a commercial build, an architect is recommended. This is to ensure the construction is built safely, with the correct materials, and abides by all necessary building regulations. However, if the project is relatively simple like a bungalow or merely looking to renovate or make changes to a home, an experienced draughtsman can be an excellent option at a fraction of the price.


Theorizing....
How many of the designs gotten off Fiverr and the rest are done by architects

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 7:16pm On May 12, 2021
uncleteeh:

Probably the design was done by the so called Draughtsman.

Hehehehe........
Do you know how many architects out there have shit loads of designs........

Hope you no follow

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 6:59pm On May 12, 2021
twinskenny:


The same abroad that they pay more?


Don't you know everything in abroad is cheap. grin

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 6:50pm On May 12, 2021
tonididdy:

Oga ya'all be relaxing.
Noble doesn't always mean expensive either.

He should never have quoted an amount in the first instance.....
If you're a draughtsman will you collect #10,000 given the client's brief........

I would even prefer the client give the original plan to the architect or whoever did the design or let the engineer/builder handling the project effect the changes.......
If the client is using an engineer it should be an easy thing to do......

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Politics / Re: Reno Omokri Replies Olu Okeowo: Is The SouthWest Just Area Boys & Fake Pastors? by bixton(m): 11:04am On May 11, 2021
farem:


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=255783562993756&id=111647580740689

It's write ups like this that made me kept this somewhere for readers of history not to be misled......

https://www.nairaland.com/4024149/history-documented-facts
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 5:39am On May 11, 2021
Dijita:


Everyone is generally underpaid in Nigeria with the exception of very few like the national assembly and political office holders. There is over supply of labor in almost every facet of the economy.


Is there truly a functional economy for one now to say that there is an over supply of labour in almost every facet?
Properties / Re: Construction Of Contemporary Eatery (fast food)And 6 Flats By Rotech77 by bixton(m): 9:16pm On May 10, 2021
rotecch77:
Just day 1
2000 pcs of 9” block off..
Well done guys.

Closing time 4:50pm
Total cost: stayed tuned



You used 15 people to run off 2000 blocks......
Are you paying by counting or per days' job arrangement??
Properties / Re: CONSTRUCTION Of A Modern Soft 4BEDROOM DUPLEX @PORT HARCOURT by bixton(m): 9:11pm On May 10, 2021
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What's the range of price to achieving this in Nigeria from moderate to luxury finishing given a good soil type.........

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:37pm On May 10, 2021
uncleteeh:

Not easy.
The redesign might affect the structural aspect which will require some adjustments to the foundation.

As long as the client understands the financial implications and can commit to it then it should be taken as a challenge putting safety into all.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 7:59am On May 10, 2021
uncleteeh:

Sure, it's easier if the structure is a bungalow.

And if it's a multi storey building it will be what!!!
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 6:41pm On May 09, 2021
diordaves:


See Next, go back and read that book again (Rich Dad, Poor Dad) and this time read it slowly. No need to rush.

What the book argued is that in the west, your residential home is NOT an asset as you need to pay the mortgage for more than 25 years. That is what the book says. Read it slowly.

However, in Nigeria we build from personal savings (cash), no 25 years mortgage that takes money from our pockets. Any residential home that takes money from the family that owns it is a poorly built house.

In Nigeria, a house built WITHOUT mortgage is an investment. Them who have ears, let them hear especially the diaspora.

Dispora, don't follow this line of argument and live donkey years abroad without a house in your root ( Nigeria) that your child/children can point to with their right hand and say "this is my parents house (investment)".

In conversation like this when we are in a club here drinking, I often hear some diaspora say I can't invest in Nigeria property wise because "how much is the rent sef". Take a long term view. Get for abroad, get for home (root). Tomorrow is pregnant, you don't know what it will deliver. Rabbit wey get one hole no dey last long.



We can always agree with this definition of investment because it's defined in pidgin.

grin
Properties / Re: The Making Of The "7 Bedrooms High Ceiling Bungalow" In Anambra by bixton(m): 12:51am On May 07, 2021
spyder880:
Fire on ...........

Nice work on the go....
Please what's the size of any two toilets on this build with adjoining bedrooms?
Thanks

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 9:07pm On May 06, 2021
n3xt:
The Not-So-Cheap Construction of a Flat Roof cool

XL6 Trillion | Atrium House

Is this a parapet wall

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Properties / Re: Construction Journal: XL6 Trillion | Atrium House by bixton(m): 7:13am On May 06, 2021
n3xt:


I know in coming days my client will reveal himself to the platform and share his experience with us on this journey. His understanding and maturity really helped us on this build.

The designs are pretty easy but an average builder might miss all the details badly if he’s coming with a conventional mindset.

Even a certified QS miss it in his estimate/bill for framing. My client don’t know this yet but I’d share all the learnings and all the critical nodes later on this thread

A builder and an architect building a similar structure near me (smaller in size) terribly missed it that they have to tear down 1/4 of their building to introduce supplemental columns and a new foundation. They were still battling DPC yesternight even though both project kickoff almost the same time.

There are several lessons to learn from this build, our processes, cost-saving strategies and how to keep your project moving in midst of the storm.

Please feel free to ask us any question about this build or any other construction related issues.




As regards the bold I guess such people did not take out time to study the architectural and most importantly structural designs before hitting the ground...........

An error leading to pulling down a 1/4 be as e get...........

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Politics / Re: House Of Reps Seeks Suspension Of Proposed National Census by bixton(m): 4:49pm On May 05, 2021
Kwanza:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenationonlineng.net/just-in-house-of-reps-seeks-postponement-of-2021-census/amp/


A house of looters. There was insecurity in the land and elections were held. There was covid-19 and elections and bye-elections were held, campaigns were done, projects were commissioned with large crowd of people as sandwiches........
With all these why can't the census hold
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 3:58pm On May 05, 2021
KolaShangOne:


Thank God you said 2m has finished here.. without roofing which will set you back 800k-1m.

And windows, around 400k - 500k
Plastering, Eelctrical piping n wiring, plumbing piping n wiring, Doors, POP ceiling, Tiles, Fencing etc...

You know how many millions be that grin


We did this, with our 3rd party costs (man must chop) for 2.5million .. Though it was late last year.

14 columns or so, German floor (with DPM and mesh), Chain lintel, and a sit-out.

And this is obviously bigger..




If you can achieve this at that amount I think Naz23 can get it done in the village as long as it's not too remote and labour charges are same as every other place. He can use 3/8" coarse as aggregates for his concrete works assuming it can be gotten easily. He can do hand mould blocks at the site to cut costs.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 3:01pm On May 03, 2021
michlins:
underground tank will always need electric to enable you use the water

A solar pump can take of that or he goes old school way of pulley system... grin
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 2:45pm On May 03, 2021
kopell:
Morning sir, this is my idea of covering tank in roofing area


Nice one.
To those who are familiar with PHC and Elekahia Estate. Those single storey buildings comprising of 6 flats(3 up/down)...you have aluminum light weight steel tank in the roof hidden. It can be accessed through a pigeon hole. It's height is probably at the 4 block level and capacity is about 1500 litres if I'm not mistaken. It serves both the flat up and the one beneath. So where you have 6 flats you have 3 tanks in each roof of the up apartment. Because It's was built by the Rivers State government then and people bought. I do not know of anyone who needed to do any serious maintenance on it but what I do know is that it's usage stopped when the State government water board facility was no longer sending water to the houses. That was the era of where steel pipes was used in households for water distribution.
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 1:08pm On May 03, 2021
gabbytabby:


How do you deal with your arthritis during the cold season. I am having a big dilemma in front of me.


There are lots of ways to handle arthritis....
One of the simplest is getting tumeric powder. You can add 2 table spoon in a tea cup of hot water (you can sieve it if need be) and add a sachet of powdered milk. One cup morning and evening. My mum uses a big tea cup though.
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 4:49am On May 03, 2021
BiigTee:
Good evening to all Esteemed readers.. I would like some clarity on this tank decking on the roof..

Are there disadvantages to having ur tanks on the roof rather than on a seperate tank stand!

The only disadvantage is with a wrong design plan or not using the services of an experienced hand to get the job done.

Which is more aesthetically pleasing? The tank hidden in the roof or the iron tank stand outside beside the building

A true properly done hidden tank gives your house/home a more aesthetic sense. For it to be appealing it has to be incorporated from the ground breaking or from a point where it doesn't make modifications worrisome. If your build is of contemporary type you can seek out n3xt ongoing build for hidden tank. If it's of a different type of build you can drop your design plan to possibly get a free assistance/advice from willingly hands.


In terms of costs.. Is the tank decking cheaper than making a tank stand

At a different perspective of cost and source of available funds the hidden tank is a single unit as part of the original build with the necessary reinforcements.
While making a tank stand is setting aside funds for it's purpose. Because it is a separate project. The type of materials to use here differs depending on what is available in the open market for right usage.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 4:01pm On Apr 30, 2021
SeniorGee:
Still available
Treat your septic tank
Degrades all forms organic waste
Make it environment friendly
Remove odours
No more pests...
@ #3.5k per serchet


So you mean with this the septic/soakaway tank does not need to be evacuated for those that get filled............

So what's the duration after first usage and how is it used...
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 3:53pm On Apr 30, 2021
diordaves:


I know I said I rest my case but...........................

I will not comment on your adoption investment strategy. That is some wack economics.


You and this maintenance of a thing.

I don't know the house you've built for your family and I don't know the kind of houses you build for your clients. But take it from me: Any house (normal family residential) that you spend more than N100 per month on maintenance is not a properly build house. A properly built house runs itself maintenance-free for years!!!!

A shared apartment in Lekki (as you no let us rest with Lekki) will set you back about say N100, 000 a month ( I'm going by the figures you've posted here in the past). So I repeat myself: any house you build for your client or for your family that they need to spend 100k per month for maintaining the house is not a properly built house.

So I'm struggling to see the scenario where rent is cheaper than living in your own home because the cost of maintaining the home is killing. Which kind house be that and who build that kind house?

Mind you, the above is said with a proviso that you "deeply understand" what maintenance is and you will carry out research (google) on maintenance. tongue



Please explain what maintenance means as regards the subject discussed or from an economist view point?
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 3:46pm On Apr 30, 2021
sgtponzihater1:


I really would not think a house bought solely to live in is an investment, at best it only has a potential of being an investment. However I would agree that it's a asset of some sort, because it falls into the asset part of a balance sheet, can be liquidated to make money or could be used to assess loan.

A house you live in can them become an investment if you lease out a room in it and make some profit off it, or if you have a boys quarter that you rent or lease out.

The biggest confusion would be from the book rich dad poor dad. R.Kiyosaki defined an asset as sometime puts money in your pocket, and a liability as something that takes money away from your pocket, which would not be the traditional definition but what his "rich dad" defined. However it's a good way to look at financial intelligence



Everything is done from the traditional perspective of defining things.
They are just fond of changing the narratives even in the most simple things.

I guess when the child inherits the private build and puts it out for rent it qualifies to be their definition.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 3:35pm On Apr 30, 2021
diordaves:


I've gone to read back my take, I no see where I tell you say I be pastor or na me be the only economist or business administrator. I no tell you that one. Who dey manipulate debate now?

You said if I "deeply understand" and do "research" I will understand what investment means. Abi no be so you tell me? So in reaction to that, I now respond to say I should know because I am trained in the field. I no tell you say I be pastor.


Now you and this google research sef. Well I don hear, so I have "googled" to wikipedia and below in italics is wikipedia take on INVESTMENT:

Investment
To invest is to allocate money with the expectation of a positive benefit/return in the future. In other words, to invest means owning an asset or an item with the goal of generating income from the investment or the appreciation of your investment which is an increase in the value of the asset over a period of time.

Wikipedia

From the above definition, an investment is allocate money with the expectation of a positive benefit/return in the future or the appreciation of the ASSET over a period of time.
It is not only pecuniary.

Now look at the above definition/conceptualization and ask yourself: Does my personal house (forever home) fall into the above definition. If no, then your house is not an investment. Na liability. In other words, na white elephant project. Since you know say no be investment, why you build am? With this question, I can now argue that you build your house because you lack financial sense. All Nigerians up and down the country that are fighting tooth and nail to put a roof over their heads no get sense, because those houses no be investment. The maintenance too much. In fact the maintenance is so great that it will ruin and kill them. F o olish Nigerians.

My friend, investment in a property is not only allocation of money to yield money, it also includes to yield benefits like a roof over your head, your pension pot, your retirement years when you are old and gray, the security of your family from the vagaries of nature, and indeed to internalize the benefit of rent payment and for the asset to grow over time.

If you send your kids (for example) abroad to access quality education and result in paying school fees through your nose; is that an investment? To you, that is not an investment as you will not sell your kids in the future (hopefully) and you are not collecting rent money from them. But to me, that is an investment in my kids' future. However, the way things are going, I'm not sure if I will not sell them in the future. Dangote cement don hit 4k. My eye dey red now for money.

At this stage, I go do like you: I rest my case.



So as a trained economist and trade consultant can you give us your personalized definition of what an "investment" means ?

It seems your explanation is an advanced level of investment. Maybe those type done at the PhD level.

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 4:44am On Apr 29, 2021
n3xt:
Kobocity: Kobokobo Alternative To Parapet

Check out this beautiful yet affordable aluminum parapet design on a self builder project on kobocity.com




https://www.kobocity.com/d/80-first-time-owner-builder


I think the proper name should be Aluminum claddings on fascia/soffits. Some use a form of light pan and weld the joinings of the cladding underneath.
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 7:28am On Apr 27, 2021
n3xt:


Everything rises and fall on leadership.

Great leaders set the stage, not to perform on it and watch for things that undermine result.

We lack true leaders in Nigeria or let’s say we lack those who truly understand what leadership means

Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 1:46am On Apr 27, 2021
hslbroker2:
we all made a mistake with Buhari this mistake must not be repeated

Maybe the same mistake was made with the National Assembly....

So what is the role of the various States' Government and their respective State Assembly

We like excuse in this country and we like to cast blame on others

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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 3:08pm On Apr 26, 2021
n3xt:
Information is power


https://www.google.ae/amp/s/www.pulse.ng/bi/politics/osinbajo-fg-orders-no-payment-for-electricity-consumers-without-pre-paid-meters/f278vlf.amp

Not in Yenagoa/Bayelsa State. The PHED operators here needs to be sanctioned by God completely.

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