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These are the self-questions in which u would tread to find the real Truth.
DO WE HAVE A SUPREME CREATOR? {already answered}
COINCIDENCE IS ILLOGICAL, WHAT THEN IS MY PURPOSE OF EXISTENCE??
WHAT DOES MY CREATOR WANT FROM CREATING ME?
DO I HAVE/NEED TO DO WHAT HE WANTS?
WHAT IF I DIE, IS THAT WHERE I END?
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Signing out......., would only come back to this thread , IF AND ONLY IF
1. @JeromeBlack quotes me
2. if someone needs to be clarified on any of the epistle or want to cook up smtin against it {which is impossible}
3. If it necessarily requires

To my dear friend @JeromeBlack and the silent one @HappyPagan. With these I've showed u things that lay plain b4 thee. Now u know truly that a SOMEONE {GOD} truly exists. To your happiness and also your peril, I didn't ascribe this GOd to any religion, any other person's belief or faith.
I can't carry your cross for you, This is exactly where I will stop. Just to erase that "THERE IS NO GOD" farce u abhor in your mind since. The journey is long indeed. @JeromeBlack u especially, would want to fight this, u would search on google ask from ur atheist friends and try other things, in bid to find a fault or lay false claim to all I've stated, but what is based on truth can never be shaken.
I gave u all a series of personal question, in them u would find the truth and would hold on so tightly unto it that nothing on this earth nor heaven can take it away from you again. Lemme try to bring those questions to the fore, for others to see.
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This is the final Epistle in a series that began with
WAS THERE EVER NOTHING? , followed by
SOMETHING , then followed by WHO. The primary points made in those studies are as follows:
(1) Absolutely Nothing never existed. If it had, there would still be Absolutely Nothing now. But Something Else exists. You, for example.
(2) Since Absolutely Nothing never existed, there was always a time when there was something in existence. This something we can call the Eternal Something. The Eternal Something has no beginning and no end, has no needs that It Itself cannot meet, can do whatever is possible that can be done, and will always be superior to anything It produces.
(3) The Eternal Something is not a machine, controlled or programmed by any force outside Itself. And the Eternal Something will not produce out of necessity, since It has no needs. Therefore, if It produces Something Else, It must decide to do so. That means that the Eternal Something has a will; thus, It is personal. Therefore, the Eternal Something must actually be an Eternal Someone (or Someones).
Continuing on, what can we discern about the Eternal Someone, beyond what has been stated already? (It's necessary here to transition from using "It" to "He" or "She" because the Eternal Something is an Eternal Someone. "He" has been chosen but gender is not an issue in this discussion.)
Since the Eternal Someone has no needs that He cannot fulfill on His own, He can exist without need of any kind of environment, for He existed when there was nothing else but Him. Any environment would be outside Him, and therefore would need to be produced. But all there is, is Him.
It's likely then that the Eternal Someone is transcendent. Meaning, He can exist outside of time and space, since He is bound by neither one. He existed eternally, thus being outside of time. And He exists without need of an environment, thus being outside of space.
Being transcendent of time and space, it's possible that the Eternal Someone is what we would call invisible. Only that which takes up space is visible. If something is outside of space, how could it be seen? Just so, the Eternal Someone is likely invisible and can exist without need of any kind of body or form.
THIS SOMEONE, THIS EXACT SOMEONE WITH THIS QUALITIES, THAT MADE EXISTENCE POSSIBLE IS WHO IS CALLED GOD, cause if this SOMETHING doesn't exist, then there should have been NOTHING a million years ago, and still NOTHING a million years after now. But since SOMETHING exists, therefore that SOMEONE/SOMETHING with those quality ascribed with the name GOD, TRULY EXISTS.
SO PAGANS AND ATHEIST, I HAVE PROVED UNTO THEE WITH THAT SAME LOGIC YOU UNDERSTAND that GOD TRULY EXISTS.
PS: I didn't ascribe this same God to any religion whether Islam, Christianity, Judaism or Hinduism.
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WHO?
https://www.everystudent.com/journeys/who.html

This is third epistle, if u haven't gone thru the 1st and the second epistle, do so be4 going thru dis

There are still 2 more epistle to round this up, I need at least a single person, that could dare prove a single part 4rm what i've said illogical. If there isn't by 6pm, I round it up .

HappyPagan:

What's your qualm?? Did u find a fault in the logical analogy, kindly let us know, HappyPagan

Things even logic would agree to
1. Nothing can come out of nothing.
2. If there is something, there was something, there had always been something.
3. And for everything that is evidently existing, there must be an origin that
i. isn't bound by space nor by time
ii. exist without the dependence on anything else {totally self sufficient}
iii. Must be able to produce anything other than itself.
If it doesn't exist, then every something u see should have been nothing.

Don't argue this things, if u haven't gone thru the epistles I laid down

if u have no qualms, proceed with this epistle
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SOMETHING
https://www.everystudent.com/journeys/something.html

@JeromeBlack and any other person following after u digest the first part, if u have any objection signify

JeromeBlack:
Patiently waiting for your epistle.

Be4 u move along to read this epistle, keep this all in your mind
1. Am not reading with the mind of an atheist, but with the scope of logic
2. We will abadon anything we've previously heard about God or The Creator.

WAS THERE EVER NOTHING?
https://www.everystudent.com/journeys/nothing.html

JeromeBlack:
Receive sense, homeboy.

Isn't that the conclusion?? why sound as if, I twisted wat u said. Call some of ur brothers, my epistle is coming.
Would u like the one by logic or the spiritual one??

JeromeBlack:
The origin of existence and creation?


Lol what a nonsensical question. No one, not even scientists would tell you that they know the origin of the universe.

The best they would tell you is that they can trace the expansion of the universe back to a singularity- the big bang. Beyond that, they do not know.

So, ogbeni, your question is as foolish as you

The answer to your question is coming in a jiffy, still pondering if I should write out the long epistle or reference you .

JeromeBlack:
The origin of existence and creation?


Lol what a nonsensical question. No one, not even scientists would tell you that they know the origin of the universe.

The best they would tell you is that they can trace the expansion of the universe back to a singularity- the big bang. Beyond that, they do not know.

So, ogbeni, your question is as foolish as you

he he he he he.
According to your illogical answer "Big bang is our god because it is our creator".
Why then did u deny big bang and say there is no god.
Hahaha Hahaha. in your wildest thought u couldn't have blived logic would fall your hand this much.

JeromeBlack:
Where is your evidence for God?

I am ready for you today.

In simple English, Give me a logical answer to "the origin of existence and creation" even tho your answer is "I don't know" {which is not logical by the way}. I would answer that simple question u asked.
Hahahhajha

JeromeBlack:
That is an example of a non sequitur argument. Your statement does not follow any logic.

Either God exists or he does not. Proving Gods existence has nothing to do with creation or the universe.

God exists separate from the universe. What is your evidence for him?

its a journey remember??
My evidence for God? Ye want to find fault where there is none.
Verily, verily I say unto thee, when thou with that same logic would give an answer to my question, I surely would give an answer to thee.
Even if thy answer is "I don't know" I still would give an answer to thee

Lo and behold,
If I had come with the sayings of Muhammad, they would have cried "how unjust and unreal is this God u talk about".
If I arrived saying 'according to chapter this and verse that of the Torah' they would have shouted " your God said do not kill, yet he kills anyhow he likes. He supported rape, and this and that".
If I had come with the scriptures of the Bible. They would have said it looked like a fairy tale written by an old man, and it isn't backed up by science.

But, here I am, with the language which they understand "logic" and the mediocre which they worship "science". And they were troubled, for they know not ,how to defend their faith. These people shall be likened unto, those that built their house on water, and went forth to sleep when storm comes knocking.
When the day is dawn, where shall thou find shelter again, all thy food , the storm hath perished, what shall thy feed on again.
Hahaha Hahaha. Think about it b4 u die,
DO WE HAVE A SUPREME CREATOR?
COINCIDENCE IS ILLOGICAL, WHAT THEN IS MY PURPOSE OF EXISTENCE??
WHAT DOES MY CREATOR WANT FROM CREATING ME?
DO I HAVE/NEED TO DO WHAT HE WANTS?
WHAT IF I DIE, IS THAT WHERE I END?

JeromeBlack:
Blabbermouth, how far?

He that is ready to question God's existence by logic, should be ready to explain "the origin of existence (creation)" with logic.
Hahaha hahaha

Beverlyjean:
It's no longer assist...it's now motm... These Messi fans are so delusional and they don't know it... The next will b number of completed dribbles... Irrelevant stats... Has any won ever won golden motm award in history??

Those guys are real jokers, can u imagine, MOTM awards? Where other great players are celebrating Europe goals stats and golden boots. They should have used Europe Highest goal scorers stats or golden boot records and see hw DAT Fraudulent messi would have been nowhere to be found.

Jokerman:
Messi fans don come with their irrelevant facts again

Lol, don't mind them, they should have brought up Golden boot and see if Ronaldo will not trash messi

Lionel Messi has won an incredible 225 'Man of the Match' awards since the 2010/11 season. That's 100 more than second place Cristiano Ronaldo.
Messi has produced magical performances for Barcelona over the years and he's been recognised for his stunning showings by receiving an incredible 225 MOTM awards.
His nearest rival Ronaldo has recorded 125 MOTM awards from his time at Real Madrid and Juventus.
They're the only two players to have compiled more than a hundred MOTM awards since the 2010/11 campaign.
Then it's ex-Chelsea ace Eden Hazard. He secured 93 MOTM gongs during his glittering career in the Premier League.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Neymar and Luis Suarez round off the top five.
Gareth Bale, Antoine Griezmann, Arturo Vidal and Marco Reus also feature in the top ten.
Here's the top ten in full:
1. Lionel Messi - 225
2. Cristiano Ronaldo - 125
3. Eden Hazard - 93
4. Zlatan Ibrahimovic - 89
5. Neymar - 65
5. Luis Suarez - 65
7. Gareth Bale - 62
8. Antoine Griezmann - 58
9. Arturo Vidal - 53
10. Marco Reus - 50
Last season, Messi registered an impressive 17 MOTM awards according to WhoScored's stats as Barcelona won the La Liga title.
No player registered more MOTM awards than him as he enjoyed yet another ridiculous campaign.

www.sportbible.com/football/news-lionel-messi-has-225-man-of-the-match-awards-since-the-201011-season-20190716.amp.html

Never knew this group can be this dry, Hahaha Hahaha. It seems your comfort zone has been pricked with thornes

LordReed:
Yes psychoanalyst we want to sin without interruption when we are satisfied we will ask Jesus for forgiveness and he will accept us to heaven while you who has been suffering in the name of holiness will one day commit one sin and it will damn you to hell. Mwahahahahaha.

Who called "Jesus". Insecurity at its peak
Choose 1
A. I know there is no god and only logic and science operates this world
B. There is a Creator indeed, but I don't know who he is
C. If there should be a God truly, He should operate by science and scope of logic, and from what I know, the Christian and Muslim God is not logically validated.

These are your 3 basis, the one which you are is what will determine how I will break u inside out.

@JeromeBlack the logician said, he would blast any one that believe in God with logic, for now, he is nowhere to be found
By the way, he is an atheist that operates on option-B. If/when he returns ,ye shall see how delusional your scope of reasoning was

LordReed:
No I won't tell you, tell your god to arrest me.

"Your God" is that the only phrase u know?
Have I said unto u, this is my God.
Insecurity, has eaten u up, ye have taken science and logic as your god .And ye blast others, now call out your science to defend itself ,where is your logic to accommodate your belief.
"What is the origin of existence?? "

HappyPagan:
I'm sorry, God. You got me.

Come hither, lemme show u. If u are willing or u are not.
"can you tell me what your science and logic has on the origin of existence?".
This is the bedrock of anything called religion.

LordReed:
Oh so your god will throw us in hell because we don't believe in your creation story is that it?

Who asked u to believe? Tell me, how creation started according to your logic

HappyPagan LordReed CAPSLOCKED JeromeBlack. What is obvious is, you all find solace in living a sinful life, some of you have been believers b4, but because you cried and cried unto the lord for a particular thing and it wasn't granted, you said "maybe this God doesn't exist, how could I have been calling and wouldn't hear an answer, not even a sign of declined request". Some of u, might have loved immoral sexual pleasure so much that, when u begin to think that the God u serve detest it, you begin to detest your God. Some of u had said "This God I serve doesn't want me to express my freedom, so I decided to abandon his laws and conclude he doesn't exist" .
YOU ARE THE CAUSE

There are certain things that are beyond the scope of logic. Realms where your logic has no effect and that's why you can't answer the question "where do existence start from.
Ye reason like this because you are bounded by time. One thing is sure, Your logic dictates you have a creator. And that creator is God.
If u have any objections, signify or forever keep your ignorance. So u do not blur those that will listen and heed

HappyPagan:
Starve the troll.

Help your brother, you pagan, Logic and science has failed him

Ye are atheists, aren't Ye?. Come forth and help thy brother, for his logic has failed to logically solve a logical problem which I gave him logically.
How did humans and everything in general come into existence?
Ps: Don't give me theories that ur logic doesn't support, don't tell me you don't know because it's a logical blasphemy. Hahaha ha hahaha, watch as they scramble into their hole. Science told u God didn't create u, and we asked science, what created you? And science became quiet for he also does not know

Lo and behold, when LordReed saw that what he had based his belief on had been troubled, he fled.

LordReed:
You know what will be funny? That day when we all stand in front of the god and you realise it's not Yahweh or Allah or any of the gods you know. It is the god of logic and the god says to you "depart into the everlasting torment, you worshipper of a false god", while he turns to me and says "thou hast maintained logic, enter the reward of a logical heaven". That would be very funny and I guess you'll be laughing all the way to hell.

Hahahahahahaha.

Ohhhh, priest. Forgive me, I am sorry for speaking blasphemy against your god. Tell me sire, how creation happened from your logic

JeromeBlack:
Theory oo

Theory

So, in summary, u simply do not know how u you yourself came into existence.
NOW CHOOSE 1
A. I know there is something we all started from but I don't know what it is
B. We don't have a beginning {which is not backed up by your petty logic}