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Beverlyjean:
U just put another biased trash... Which one is Messi passed the ball to the person that passed to villa?? U guys are not well and u don't know it... Goodbye

Do urself a favor and watch d highlight . Messi dribbled man utd players into the box 18 to create that key Chance.
I tell u this, I love ur zeal for football but try complimenting that by watching live football matches. Until then, I won't drag any football argument with u again

Beverlyjean:
Two CL titles with 2 different clubs Porto and inter... These are teams that having won CL since it's new era.... League titles in Portugal, Spain and England ... Mourinho has won every major trophy in history of club football... Now tell me about guadiola

I don't give 2 Bleep concerning where he won champions league. My own is, he won 2 UCL.
Guardiola won league title {back to back , FYI} at Spain, Germany and England.
100 point (the highest) to win Premier League (ur so-hyped numero 1 league).
All 6 club trophies winable in his first season as senior manager.
Treble winning Barcelona 2009.
2010 top 3 ballon d'or nominees were players under Guardiola.
The fourmidable mancity ; He won all winnable trophies that a club could win within England premier league.
Let's stop at that.
It's nice for u to truly admit Guardiola is better and greater than mourinho.
This is exactly how I would have/ will shut u up when messi clinch an international trophy

Beverlyjean:
The three biggest leagues in Europe are the English league ( he conquered) Spanish league ( he conquered) Italian league ( also conquered) he is the first and only man to conquer the 3 biggest leagues in Europe....no one has ever done that...

Guadiola is a better coach presently cos he has proved himself outside Barca...
But mourinho on record has achieved more ... The only reason y we can say guadiola is better is because mourinho hasn't performed or won a major title in over 4 yrs now ... Ronaldo and Messi is a different case , cos they are still performing, non has dropped form...

"but on record mourinho had achieved more"
LMAO
pls state what mourinho achieved oooo

Beverlyjean:
Then u can also say Messi has never delivered as well cos it was eto that scored the winning goal in 09 , Messi scored to seal the win...Ramos scored as well , but Ronaldo scored to seal the win in 2014... In 2016 , Ronaldo scored the decisive penalty to lift the cup , so he was decisive as well... In 08 , he scored the opener against Chelsea , that was a crucial goal as well cos if he didn't, Chelsea would hv scored the only goal of that game

UCL finale match is the biggest game on club level.
Madrid were leading 3-1 b4 Ronaldo scored, chances of comeback is slim. Ramos was the MOTM (2014)
He couldn't score till the match was dragged to penalty. why does he have to be the one for the last play, he was forcing glory. (2016)
Ronaldo 2018 did score a single goal, and remember when he doesn't score he is as good as useless.

Messi was Fan MOTM in '09 with a goal that sealed victory

Messi was uefa and fan MOTM 2011 he gave Barcelona the lead goal
if u did watch the 2011 final match, can you explain how Villa scored his third goal??
Like my fellow messian would say;
Hate responsibly!!

Beverlyjean:
Typical of Messi fans... Will always wanna find something sha for their guy... Always searching for one thing , very soon u guys will start to tell us that he was the one that had the throw in that let yo the goal or he played the corner kick that led to the goal... As I said b4 , u guys can live in ur lucid dreams

Busting ur ignorant bubbles. Ronaldo wasn't decisive in UCL 2014, UCL 2016 and UCL 2018 finale. I.e 3 out of 5
The world needed him most at UCL 2014 final, he couldn't deliver until ramos scored a header in the last breathe of the game.
Well I knew all these, bcus I watch matches rather than base my judgement and opinion on stats

Beverlyjean:
I still don't agree with u... Forget alves in this discussion cos u are meant to understand that in every team, there is that one great player that all have their eyes on , u can't bring in alves to that effect... Henry win everything as well in football just like zidane but zidane will always b ahead of him... Ask urself this question, y were those players mentioned ?? Now Pele was outstanding for Brazil and Santos ,won titles with them, maradona was outstanding as well , won titles with Argentina ( 2 Copa America and a WC) and lowly Napoli , zidane WC ,euros ,WC and champions League with real Madrid and league titles with juventus, don't forget when he said he had to win the CL to b mentioned amongst the greats after loosing back to back CL final with juventus ... Cr7 is the first player in history to win league titles in the 3 major Leagues and was the outstanding player in those teams, winning top scorer for those teams and winning best player in those leagues, also won the euros and nations league with lowly Portugal, a team that had never featured in any major final in history till he was called up , a team that had only previously featured in 3 WCs b4 he joined the team .... He is the second highest goal scorer in the history of world football ahead of GERD Muller (Germany ), Pele ( Brazil) and Messi ( Argentina) ... It's unfair to say that a Messi that has only done extremely well for Barcelona is a better player... Ronaldo wasn't just in those teams , he was the best player in those teams ... U guys are just so hateful and so biased

1. which one is 3 major leagues??
2. Messi is a better player than anybody the guy u quoted mentioned
3. Some Messians blived bcus messi is the best player the world has ever seen, so he deserve the title.
So on what basis have u called Ronaldo a GOAT??
{now don't tell me, the "he conquered on different league" story tho, others DAT did it b4 him had gone into oblivion}
4. Between mourinho and guardiola, who do u consider a better and greater coach??

Beverlyjean:
U are so funny with the talk of Ronaldo never ousted Messi in any competition... It shows I was even wasting my time on a lost delusional sheep... By the way, eto 09 , Pedro 1st goal and villa winning goal made the difference in 2011, Messi just added the 3rd... He never scored an opening goal, equalising goal or winning goal in those u mentioned... That's what they call decisive

it is either u don't watch matches or u don't know what to watch when viewing football ball.
Messi scored the goal that sealed up the match at UCL '09.
Messi was the man that created villa's goal. It got to another Barcelona player b4 getting to villa's foot. u weren't aware of messi's influence bcus it wasn't in stat that Messi made the assist (when u quickly browsed out the summary of the match). And chance created is scarcely recorded in match stats.
Let me tell u 2 things u need to know
1. Goals and assist isn't the only shiit in a football game {messi and iniesta were decisive at UCL 2015 despite not recording a goal}.

2. U need to start watching live matches nowadays to compliment ur zeal for football. If u keeping updating urself with stats and match summary, u wouldnt know who played really well or who did bad despite recording a goal.
{that's exactly why I don't pack stats when debating abt smtin and prefer using logic with u}

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Beverlyjean:
U are so very ignorant... Everyone screams the name of maradona as the GOAT but did he score in the final of the only WC that he won ... U Messi fans are so so so so so pained that Ronaldo has won two international trophies while Messi can't manage one.... U guys keep on insulting higuain saying he is the reason y Messi failed to win an international trophy but u also failed to question y he himself failed to score in those finals... U with ur other mouth will scream that kanu led Nigeria to Olympics gold and is the reason we won it not minding that he dint score in the final but also use the other side of ur mouth to condemn Ronaldo, saying he only won it cos those players scored in the final ... U are a bloody hypocrite and totally biased

hope u can now see my message clearly. Mara dona dragged Argentina to a world cup Final 1986 either with his Goals or MOTM worthy performances. Messi dragged Argentina to a world cup final with his goals and MOTM worthy performance 2014. in the final '86 maradonna couldn't score but another player stepped up. in the final 2014, Messi couldn't score and no one else stepped up. Maradonna won a world cup. and messi lost a world cup.
Maradonna won '86 golden ball. Messi won 2014 golden ball
Maradonna became the GOAT, but messi became a National Bastard (till future decides otherwise)
Can u see hw unfair stats and irrational human reasoning can be

Beverlyjean:
Ok...the ones that Messi won, which one was he decisive ?? Cos I know Ronaldo was decisive against juventus and he scored the decisive spot kick against atletico ... Mention the one that Messi was decisive in?? Pls don't mention Copa del Rey cos I dint mention those little cups in as much as Ronaldo was decisive against Barca and Messi 2ice and the fa cups and league cups in England or even the super cup against AC Milan

2009 and 2011 UCL FINALE. deal with that first.
By the way, Ronaldo never ousted messi in any competition
And isn't a threat to Maradonna and Pele GOAT claim , Unlike Messi

ReeLoaDead:
Will Argentina hang that Golden Ball in their trophy cabinet? Will Nigeria be celebrating if one of our players wins an individual award at AFCON but the fail to deliver the actual trophy .... you know the nice shiny trophy that makes you & the county the champion??
Messi and consistently failed to deliver Copa America trophies to Argentina.
Ronaldo and a bunch of relative no-names delivered ... Messi instead is blaming the pitch

That trophy is in Messi's name to show his individual greatness and Ronaldo has none to his name. Not even in this UNL.
So Messi performed better on national level

Beverlyjean:
In 2009 -2013, Ronaldo was in a new real Madrid that were tryna rebuild ... Remember that real Madrid had not seen quarter finals of the CL since 2003/2004...

Excuses. I have a lot I could Cook up 4 messi too. The summary is this happened . So don't use d fact that Ronaldo evergreen moment was 2016-2018. to down talk Messi.

Beverlyjean:
I have always maintained that individually when they both have the ball on their feet , Messi is more dangerous and better with the ball... But Ronaldo is more effective with the ball... Football is not only about mesmerising skills, it's about the end result first... If u watch Ronaldo for Portugal , he motivates the team , he inspires them... He encourages his team mates , gives them self belief... What he did in the final , no other player in football will do that stuff, Ronaldo will almost never fail when he is needed...Messi has failed to help his team in most cases when needed... The last time Messi won a big tournament was in 2015...4 years ago... U can't keep on winning la Liga and keep on mesmerising and scoring those la Liga teams and claim greatest ..that is absolute rubbish... Ronaldo lost the 2009 CL , the euro final in 2004 , the fa cup final in 2005 and the Copa de Rey final in 2013... Those are the only final he has ever lost in his entire career... But at the same time he has won countless finals ... Messi has lost nothing less than 10 finals in his career.... Barcelona has always been the best team in la Liga ,even when Ronaldo was there but Real Madrid seemed pretty good ,till he left( they became as useless as they were b4 his arrival) ... I am pretty sure that if it was Messi that joined juventus, he would not score more than 15-20 goals ...that's cos Messi is a system player... Ronaldo can adapt to any style of play

If u really watch football and don't judge by news and livescore. Did u see wat messi did in WORld cup 2010??. He didn't score a single goal but!!!!! Messi was still being messi. and maradonna wasn't using any of Barca system of play.
I said this to refute the fact that Messi wouldn't fit in other system of play.
With your "Ronaldo deliver when they needed him most" cry. I could list out a lot of crucial matches where Ronaldo was nowhere to be found (even tho his team later wins some of them).
But take the UNL for example, b4 the min guedes score, the team needed Ronaldo to deliver but he didn't.
If there is something I love Ronaldo for is he is wise. Messi to turn up when u need him, the moments are always breathtaking and at the same time physically demanding. Because messi is aging those 'take the game by the scruff" moment has really reduced bcus of his own style of making things happen. All Ronaldo needs is wait in the box 18 for a tap-in or header. if they don't work, he would apply the dark art of forcing penalty.
well Messi doesn't do tap-ins and dark arts.
Take d Liverpool comeback 4 example;. Messi was so desperate to score a goal, he made abt 4 solo runs trying to do the Maradonna-messi but the little man's body wasnt like b4. Did u see d moment he Had abt 5-6 Liverpool player crowding him alone , with a lot of harsh tackles. Ronaldo would have waited for a tap-in or force a stupid penalty to make tins happen

ReeLoaDead:
CR7 has won for Portugal senior national team while for Argentina senior national team, Messi is busy blaming the pitch

The trophy is for the whole team not a player.
Messi has a golden ball in both world cup and Copa America, Ronaldo has none.
{hope u know what a golden ball denotes}

Beverlyjean:
I have always maintained that individually when they both have the ball on their feet , Messi is more dangerous and better with the ball... But Ronaldo is more effective with the ball... Football is not only about mesmerising skills, it's about the end result first... If u watch Ronaldo for Portugal , he motivates the team , he inspires them... He encourages his team mates , gives them self belief... What he did in the final , no other player in football will do that stuff, Ronaldo will almost never fail when he is needed...Messi has failed to help his team in most cases when needed... The last time Messi won a big tournament was in 2015...4 years ago... U can't keep on winning la Liga and keep on mesmerising and scoring those la Liga teams and claim greatest ..that is absolute rubbish... Ronaldo lost the 2009 CL , the euro final in 2004 , the fa cup final in 2005 and the Copa de Rey final in 2013... Those are the only final he has ever lost in his entire career... But at the same time he has won countless finals ... Messi has lost nothing less than 10 finals in his career.... Barcelona has always been the best team in la Liga ,even when Ronaldo was there but Real Madrid seemed pretty good ,till he left( they became as useless as they were b4 his arrival) ... I am pretty sure that if it was Messi that joined juventus, he would not score more than 15-20 goals ...that's cos Messi is a system player... Ronaldo can adapt to any style of play

I learnt from your analysis. but if am toh be honest, I haven't seen a single reason as to why he is the GOAT
PS: 2009-2013 Ronaldo didn't win anything big. Drought come and go. Those finals won. in how many was Ronaldo decisive??

ReeLoaDead:
"Messi is like WiFi, he does not work well outside of Camp Nou" ... Zlatan Ibrahimovic

In Argentina and portugal's shirt respectively. Messi is still better than Ronaldo

Beverlyjean:
U are so very ignorant... Everyone screams the name of maradona as the GOAT but did he score in the final of the only WC that he won ... U Messi fans are so so so so so pained that Ronaldo has won two international trophies while Messi can't manage one.... U guys keep on insulting higuain saying he is the reason y Messi failed to win an international trophy but u also failed to question y he himself failed to score in those finals... U with ur other mouth will scream that kanu led Nigeria to Olympics gold and is the reason we won it not minding that he dint score in the final but also use the other side of ur mouth to condemn Ronaldo, saying he only won it cos those players scored in the final ... U are a bloody hypocrite and totally biased

I love Cristiano in his MAN UTD days tho
But why is Ronaldo the GOAT??
(That is what I cant figure out)

Beverlyjean:
Then y mock Ronaldo at the Euros?? Watch the games against all the teams he played... He imposed himself on every game... Only failed to record an assist or goal in 3games... Then got injured in the final

How many MOTM in those games he didn't score??

Beverlyjean:
Till then

Brazil would shock u

Blabbermouth:
Ahem... Now what if??
what if messi wins this Copa?? DAT means??
DAT means Ronaldo has no single hold of greatness over messi.
DO YOU COMPREHEND?
just wait 4 DAT Brazil match for ur shocker

Waiting for Brazil vs Argentina b4 ah start my troll

Beverlyjean:
So who spare headed the Euros?? Hu was Portugal's best player in euro 16... Portugal scored 9 goals in total... Ronaldo scored 3 and also had 3assists... He was involved in 6 of their 9 goals... So what are u saying??

Nani scored 3 also with 1 assist and was present in the finale.
Eder scored the legendary goal.
Why then didn't he win the golden ball

Beverlyjean:
Yes ... We all did...we believed that Ronaldo will overtake him.... No one ever cared or talked about golden ball...till u Messi fans started looking for some international award to hold on to since he has failed to win one...

Iieeeeeesssssss
U all said it was ojoro, Blatter was a cheat.
Those years did u troll messi for not winning a nation trophy??

Beverlyjean:
While Ronaldo is ahead of Messi when it comes to national trophies... Anyone will take the thophy ahead of any nonsense ball... Balon d'Or is the Koko

Ahem... Now what if??
what if messi wins this Copa?? DAT means??
DAT means Ronaldo has no single hold of greatness over messi.
DO YOU COMPREHEND?
just wait 4 DAT Brazil match for ur shocker

Beverlyjean:
While Ronaldo is ahead of Messi when it comes to national trophies... Anyone will take the thophy ahead of any nonsense ball... Balon d'Or is the Koko

When messi was leading 4-1 did u consider this??

Beverlyjean:
Winning trophies in one league is trash... Barcelona is the best team in Spain and they have no rivals... He will always win it like juve.. or Bayern... It's not easy doing it in different leagues... Look at how Messi has been struggling in Argentina over the years... Ronaldo has done it for Portugal twice.... That's what they call tested and trusted

U just don't get.
He didn't spear head those Portugal trophies like other greats did when they win a trophy for their national team.

Beverlyjean:
The truth is that no one will care about those Holden balls in the future... Balon d'Or supercedes all those nonsense... No one cares about winning European golden boot... If u are asked who won the golden ball in 1990 , u will have to search Google for answers, but if they ask u who won balon d'Or in 1990, u will easily mention it... If u are asked who won the European golden boot in 1997, u will go back to Google, but if u are asked who won the CL in 97 , u will easily mention it... Priority first

Depends on the player. Stop shiting this awards because Ronaldo is behind messi (considering them) . Its making u sound dumb

Beverlyjean:
I think someone here mentioned that the only way Messi can win an international trophy is to adapt Ronaldos style... By focusing on winning and not showcasing skills... Now u guy now agree that football is not all about personal glory... Ronaldos game for national team changed after they were knocked out of the 2014 WC in the group stage... Watch his role in that trophy winning Euros ... This is the reason y I have always maintained that Ronaldo is better than Messi... Now u should b getting what Ronaldo fans have been saying.... If u want trophies , get a Ronaldo ( 85% guarantee for trophies).. If u want entertainment, get a Messi( 55 % guarantee for trophies).

How did Ronaldo's game change.
U didn't get the memo that messi has more trophy than Ronaldo??
How ronaldo con take guarantee trophy??

Beverlyjean:
Which 2 golden balls...or u are including that useless south American cup ?? . U Messi fans are so delusional... At least Pele won titles with Santos... Back then the south American League was on par with the European leagues

How is Copa America useless?? PS: it is a continental cup.
Rinaldo was only active in UNL semi finals (just a single match)... Main reason he couldnt bag the golden ball.
More over messi is/has been playmaking from very deep so dont expect a robust goal scoring stats. But never u say "he isn't performing" .
I urge u to watch any 1 of their match and see 4 yrself the impact messi had been having

Beverlyjean:
U at it mouth... If he looses he is still greater... U are nothing but a dreamer... Supporting a local champion, that can't win anything outside Spain ... A player that can only win in one team...what's the difference between him and Alfredo Di stephano??

Think about it. Pele didn't champion beyond Brazil.
{yet widely regarded as GOAT}
lest I forget, those balls weren't in Barcelona shirt.
Di stefano,?? give d dead man 2 golden balls den we can talk

Beverlyjean:
Let him win something first with the one he has b4 we start to talk about another

U guys are preying till Argentina gets knocked out b4 you pounce. if he lose he is still greater than Ronaldo , but if he wins u should and shall forever remain silent

Beverlyjean:
Oh now it's not about scoring goals cos ur man somehow forgot his scoring boots at the camp nou... But u guys said Ronaldo dint score in those finals he won... U c how biased and sentimental u guys are

We were discussing about messi winning golden ball in Argentina shirt and how sm1 else got none.
Those messians that said Ronaldo didn't score in the finals were proving a point to tell u cr7 fans how messi would have been basking in 3 national cups if other team mate had stepped up