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Barristter07:
Jesus IS a Life giving Spirit . Do you recall a Spirit doesn't have flesh and bones ?

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha, deal with the scriptures I gave you.
You think people just wake up and say Man has spirit?

Brain dead analogy, at 2Samuel 19:12 , People with blood were confirmed as Flesh and bones .
" You are my brothers; you are my bone and my flesh. Why then should you be the last to bring back the king?’ "

In Blabbermouth low thinking, those men don't have blood , You are not wise .

Leviticus 17:11 says the life of the Flesh is in the blood. As long as Adam and Eve were made as Flesh , like every other animals with flesh, they have blood.

Humble yourself and ask - what's the wisdom behind Lev 17:11

1Timothu 2:5 said Jesus gave himself as corresponding ransom , " corresponding " means equal ransom to what Adam lost, if Adam has no blood, Jesus is not a corresponding ransom.

Your assumption is just silly at its best .
Deal with it, humans have flesh and blood, For Jesus to be human, He has blood.

Them call person "Adam", you dey drag with God.
Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha
Haven't you read?- the LORD did not subject the world to come to angels. To which of his creatures then did he subject the world to?

When you grow balls to answer my question, man up yourself and tell.

Barristter07:
For the records the second Adam is a Spirit person. He is called a Life giving SPIRIT.

John6:63, John 5:21.
He's been quickening since the time on earth. Talk another one!

Hebrews 2:14 said humans are creatures of flesh and blood , the Bible further said No flesh can exist without blood . Leviticus 17:11

Wisdom beckoneth, yet the fool rejects her in ignorance.
The wisdom behind that same Lev 17:11 is what would have opened your eyes to the truth of Jesus body resurrected.
Ohhh, I do wish the Lord opens your eyes to see, and he open your ears to ear.

For Jesus to be human, it means he has blood.

Says who?
Adam confirmed Eve as human - Flesh and Bones.

Christ confirmed himself as human - flesh and bones.

PS: Whenever you grow the liver to answer my question, do answer it. For now, you never fit.

SilverNorGold:
Lol.. Personally, I would prefer President Mohammadu Buhari to go for third term.. But I fear he might not want to, considering the fact that it took the intervention of God, international communities and cries of patriotic Nigerians before he even accepted to contest the 1st and 2nd presidential elections.

However, if that fails, then Professor Osinbajo is the man I'll root for to continue the great works of PMB.. If he too refuses to contest, then Governor Dave Umahi will have my support...

Nigeria will be great as it's already on its way to greatness.

God bless Nigeria.

Here is when someone is so happy that he never will move forward in life.

Only a foolish youth will vote for either APC or PDP.
If no better candidate spring up before 2023, then sowore all the way!
#Sowore2023.

MuttleyLaff:
God died for you. Died in your place, so that you wont have to die and/or ultimately be destroyed

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha
"GOD DIED" - MuttleyLaff
"God" and "Died" are two different something that should never be used together. In fact, it ought to be an official English blunder.

livingchrist:
Jesus said he possesses flesh and bones which automatically mean Jesus was human

Jesus: I have flesh and bones
JW: No bro, you are only wearing flesh and bones.

Kobojunkiee:

Okay.

Janosky:
At Luke 24:4 ,23 those angels called 'men', did they appear as flesh ?

That's identification, not nature.

Kobojunkiee:
God's will is spoken of throughout the Bible. Jesus Christ came as a man with a will of His own which He instead chose to submit to His Father. According to Jesus Christ, the Spirit of God has a Will of His own but will instead take from the Things of Jesus Christ to give those who believe and accept to be Lead by the Spirit of God in Jesus Christ.

That is - Jesus and God are two distinct person.

I like to stick to a generally agreed-upon definition to greatly reduce the possibility of confusion. So when I say "Will", I mean the dictionary meaning and not some meaning manufactured in someone's mind - I have no mind-reading abilities so you can see how that can be a problem.

I'm engaging you. I don't care where the definition is derived from, give me your own words.

Janosky:
Litmus test..
Question for Brocab & all Trinity devotees:

@ John 20:17 & 17:3 did Jesus Christ himself reject your claim of John 1:1?

Cc: MuttleyLaff

Kobojunkiee:
I know it is possible for Him because He says so. But that is all I can say on that since I am not God and have never been.

Okay, i respect that. Where did He (God) say so?
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I'm not engaging a dictionary, I'm engaging Kobojunkie, so give me YOUR DEFINITION of will.

Kobojunkiee:
Who can speak of the person of God? No one!

In other words, you don't know if God can have different will.

But to the "Human kind of person"? Yes, the same person can have different wills.... My mind and my body tend to have different wills on any given day - part of why I feel this body of mine is a prison of sorts. Don't even get me started on the mental aspect of such torture.

Kobojunkie, define WIll please.

Kobojunkiee:
"Person" as in a human being or "person" as in God? Remember, we may be created in the "image" of God, but there is not a 1-1 comparison between God and man in many things.

Okay, I'm giving you that degree of freedom.
Answer my question in both cases - God kind of "person" and human kind of "person".

shadeyinka:
No sir!
1. My Physical Body is ME:
That is what everyone know as me
2. My Spiritual Body is ME:
That is what God, Angels and Demons see as me
3. My Soul is ME:
That is the person I refer to as Me, Myself and I.

Even if you remove all my limbs, I will still be me. Yet I am not just brain, muscle and bones. It is my soul that gives me consciousness. My Soul is the center of my WILL, EMOTION and INTELLECT.

When you are sad, is it your body that is sad or the you who lives inside you body?

It's a baby idea to turn yourself into a Trinity as if a part of you can exist alone.
All the above does not concern me [there are some things I would have pointed out, but let me overlook sha].

Shadeyinka, define WIll please.

Kobojunkiee:
Well, Jesus Christ did suggest that even the Spirit of God has a Will of His own.

That's not a problem.
What I'm asking is - can the same person have different [or say, separate] Will?

shadeyinka:
Yes!
My body could crave for food
BUT
My soul says no! You when I am fasting

Lol. Shadeyinka, Will is not in the different options to choose from, will is in the choice.

Preciousgirl:
Jesus is God Himself

Preciousgirl, is it possible for the same person to have different Will?

Zzor:
I wish MaxInDHouse and tatime are still active, they would have handled you better

I stopped wishing the day I realized I CAN ACTUALLY DO IT MYSELF.

MaxInDHouse:
Mediatorship is all about passing timely information from one party to another so mediators must come in anytime when teaching comes up Sir!

Teaching is not exactly mediating.

MaxInDHouse:
God spoke to Moses while Moses speaks to the Israelites, of course Moses as an imperfect man made mistakes but he remains the mediator of the covenant between God and the Israelites! Exodus 33:11; Numbers 12:8

Moses as an imperfect man made mistakes - exactly!
Why stick with an imperfect men when you can stick with a perfect Lord?

Naaaaaaaaaaaaa! "I'm the way the truth and the life" doesn't mean you should talk to Jesus in prayer!
It simply means "if you want to know how you can approach my father (God), i'll teach you because he's my father and i'm his favourite son"

I think you should get this now. Teaching is the not exactly the same as Mediating.

That's the difference between JWs and all other religions. Jehovah's Witnesses don't pray to Jesus, we make our supplications known directly to JEHOVAH. But we must do so following all the guidelines or counseling from Jesus

What does - asking in my name mean?
By the way, I don't supplicate to Jesus.

Jesus said "whatever you bind or loose on earth will happen just so in heaven" {Matthew 16:19} the Apostles forgot what Jesus taught them saying "you will always have the poor with you" {Mark 14:7} they wanted to make all members equal materially speaking by selling what they had and sharing it equally {Act 4:32-35} that was a wrong step! Jesus didn't step in to correct them not until the congregation lost a couple, that was the end of that arrangement!

Wrong! Totally wrong! Absolutely wrong!
At the end, the arrangement wasn't stopped, no! There was the reverential fear to God among the believers, and that's the purpose actually.
Lol. That's funny sir. Jesus wasn't saying some of you will remain poor. C'mon, where did that one come from?

But take not that it was God's holy spirit that killed Ananiah and Saphirras for lying when they supposed to act in line with what the whole assembly agreed upon. So it's wrong to worship where you are not 100% in compliance with the teachings, it's better find another group!

Just remove these erroneous mediators and submit everything to Christ, what you said above would have been spot on.
Latter day saints are in compliance of teaching.
Catholics are in compliance of teaching.
One line of thought is not actually bad on its own, the fact is - it could actually be one line of false thoughts.

Of course that's what it means! When you're singling a teacher out as the best or your favorite amongst the rest it's tantamount to worship. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't know where the worshipers of God gathers! Matthew 24:27-28

You are guilty of this. Y'all single out your GB and say - they are the only one we will listen to. This is tantamount to worship.
What shall I say then, Maximus is worshipping a GB? Say God forbid!

Jesus said there will be false teachers {Matthew 24:11} so we must distinguish the true teachers from false otherwise what you're saying is "don't mind Jesus, you can worship anywhere that Jesus' name is mentioned" of course you should know better than that! Matthew 7:21-23
Thanks and God bless you!

False teachers are where they belong.
You still don't get it - I'm saying, don't mind your pastors, don't worship anywhere except with Christ.

That's the movement of the apostles, declaring a new king and a new kingdom. No division whatsoever. One God, One Lord, One faith, One baptism, and definitely, One hope. Hahahahahahaha

Blabbermouth:
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I've still not seen your answer.
Baba wants to divert.

The words are spirit. What did Jesus mean?

Cc: Jozzy4 and DappaD, single standard crooner. Come and help your brother he just bought another market.
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Barristter07:
Useless shalaye the life of the flesh is in the blood . You can eat your lies . Jesus came in the likeness of Adam. Yet has blood, So Jesus too is a fallen man ? I repeat, you don't have any sense


Concerning the highlighted, Is that what John 3:6 tell you ?

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I've still not seen your answer.
Baba wants to divert.

The words are spirit. What did Jesus mean?

Barristter07:
All usage of the word Spirit carries invisibility and immateriality.

Oh no, Lord WHY? I FREAKING HATE COWARDS!
Ogbeni Barristter07, don't be a wussy, I don't need all these your excessive jagbajantis.
Man up and tell - the words are spirit. What did Jesus mean? Shikena.

The people Paul called Spiritual men don't have blood ? You are silly

I will teach you We'll discuss about the Spiritual man when we've ironed what's on floor.

Adam didn't have blood, But the Life of the Flesh is in the blood ? Adam must be a dead man before the Fall . Do you think at all ?

Let me give you a quick one [I don't want you to escape as i've seen you are trying all your best to ]

When you bore the image of Adam, you didn't bear the image of Adam before the fall, you bore that of Adam after the fall. Otherwise, there actually would be no need for salvation.

I don't believe in predestination, neither do you. Predestination proposes that Adam was made by His creator - with that mindset of - "Okay, after you have fallen [which I very much expect], this is how everything in your system will carry out their operation]"

The essence of the above is that - we cannot speak particularly of so many things about Adam.
Was Adam with a kidney before the fall? For what purpose?
Was Adam with an anus before the fall? For what purpose? To excrete? Goddamn no!
Can Adam's skin be pierced by anything in the garden? If he can, I hope we both know the implication of all this.

So bro, the Adam the bible presents us [when you compare with the other Adam] is the Adam after his fall. Before the fall, we cannot speak particularly of so many things.

Coming from someone who said Is spirit means Spiritual man . Guy, You are a disgrace

Which creature was born of the spirit? Man!

By the way, the most foolish thing is to think of becoming an angel.

Man is God's favorite. If God is to do with just one creature, he will forsake animals, forsake the bodies of the heavenlies, forsake even angels and stick with man. [That is by the way]


Barristter, I do not wish you reply any of what I said above - that's an edification for readers by.
The koko here is - Man up and tell, the words are spirit. What did Jesus mean?

See guy, it's not so hard to say - Blabbermouth, I won't say [truthfully though] what that part actually meant. Why? Because I know what effect it will have on this ongoing discussion.

Barristter07:
If you only you can tell me the words are material and visible , how much more you would have made sense ? But till this moment you cant. Shame


Slave of God's nature ? No scripture, lying mouth of blabbermouth

Is spirit means Jesus is a spiritual man ,Those called Spiritual man have flesh and blood, do you agree ? E went blank

Adam doesn't have blood ... Blabbermouth delusion grandeur

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All the above painment does not answer my question.
1. I didn't fight you that words are visible. I don't know why you are so crazy about wanting me to pick up an argument there. Diversion technique.

2.Nature there is to Mean Who GOD IS. I.e Holy, righteous and the likes.
II. It's an exegesis bro, so why the painment?

3. Just as "is spirit" does not make words A spirit or many spirits

4. I never saw where you ask me if the spiritual man has flesh and blood.

5. You still haven't given any scriptural proof to show that Adam has blood before the fall. That's the point there, so stop shadowboxing.

Now my dear barrister, man up and tell, "the words are spirit" what did Jesus mean?

PS: Let us engage 1,000 times, you will never be able to gainsay. It's not about me or about you, it's about who wields the truth. Unfortunately, I'm the one.

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha

Barristter07:
The snake man is an hopeless cause , Even if Blabbermouth said Adam has no blood, he is correct as long as it's against the Witnesses.

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Hahahahahahaha, hahahahahahaha, you've gone into hiding.
I read the study note of your org on John 6:63, LWKMD.

See how you disgraced yourself for the second time.
Jesus: The words that I speak unto you, the words are spirit

Barrister's Jesus: My words are invisible

Lol. You want to rant about how you never meant that shey?
If you get liver ,I repeat, if you get liver ,one last time - if you get liver , tell what Jesus meant by - the words are spirit.

Janosky:
Bros, the words you speak, have you ever held it in your arms ?

Lol. Jesus be like - "Guys, shey you know I have 2 eyes?" When Barrister said Jesus was telling his disciples that his words are invisible

Lol. Someone is in love with me.
Unfortunately, i'm not oGAYdengbe or GAYbriel.

MaxInDHouse:
Obviously you don't understand what i'm saying here!

Let me make it simpler....

I got that.
I sent a copy to Barristter07 who is so headstrong on interpreting that as - the words (Jesus' words) are invisible.

MaxInDHouse:
When you read God's word, try to be open minded so that you get the understanding clearly, remember the Bible book of Psalms 146:4 and Ecclesiastes 12:7, it seems as if some sort of energy leaves the body rendering the body lifeless.
So what Jesus meant is "the words that i speak to you can impact life (spirit) in you so that what is rendering others lifeless may become ineffective in your case" READ Hebrew 4:22

What Jesus meant is - the words that I speak to you can impact life (spirit) in you...

Okay, that's on point.

I will more likely put is like this; What Jesus meant there was that the words he speak are not vain words of mere men, they words that are unctioned and influenced by the Spirit (of God) and this sayings are words that can give you life.

Think of what led to Adam's oldage, sickness and finally death, he decided to stop taking in instructions from his Creator, he believes he's mature enough to know what is good and evil without God having to tell him {Genesis 2:17} God's word will restore what Adam lost so that we can live forever, the first Adam rejected it now we can get it through the last Adam! 1Corinthians 15:45

Hmmmmm

So there is nothing like invisibility in words, you hear it just like anyone else but it's the willingness to respond positively to it that Jesus is saying!

So there is NOTHING like invisibility in words, you hear it just like anyone else.....

Cc: Barristter07.
Your yansh haff open.

MaxInDhouse, what's up?

John 6:63 The words that I speak to you, they are spirit...

Maximus sir, was Jesus plainly saying that his words are invisible?

Barristter07:
Someone just said Adam and Eve no get blood blabbermouth , you are a disgrace

That part where you see blood is where you will tell me.

Wayray dey disguise, he wan EPP God add Blood.

Now, if you get liver, go and answer that question I asked you.

Actually, don't worry, the question has served its purpose.
You've seen the truth already but the fear of apostasy is root of all truth-denial.

Barristter07:
wahala for who dey fear the truth @Bold . No sane human will utter such nonsense. Adam doesn't have blood but Abel have ? Whose likeness is Abel ?
Chai , Your case is getting too critical

Ehen, now you are talking.
Before, you foolishly want to force blood into Genesis 5:2 and I've clamped your wings - Mission accomplished.

Whose Likeness was Abel? Adam.
Adam has blood and Abel has.

LMAO! You want to add blood into the definition of human, hahahahahahaha, we catch am, d tin pain am.