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stefanbanach:
Typical barkadog.

Ah didn't aim any dig at you. Bro, I play football also, I model after Ronaldinho and he is the best player by ability to me. Sincerely, I love him a little more than messi. BUT, Ronaldinho put himself on self-destruct mode. Forget all this, Ronaldinho's team style of play story. He loved the individual play style. It made everything about His game glaring.
But, if Ronaldinho had kept his head up in that barca team, even Pele go dey bow

yaqq:
From ur useless list, Messi played along side Henry, Ronaldinho, xavi, Iniesta.... Whereas cr7 only played along side himself..... Cr7 is the greatest player of all time.

I felt the urge to say "The The rin" to you. But, let meh just contain it

stefanbanach:
The truth of the matter is, ronaldo and Messi HD their success tied to their football systems.

Messi relied on Barcelona's possession system and influence of iniesta and xavi..... Ronaldo mostly relied on assists from marcelo and the rest...
If you check messi's career at Barcelona, you'll find out that he had so many assists from particular players. Alba, dani Alves etc..... Ronaldo had so many assists from marcelo, benzema etc.... Their football systems were adjusted to bring the best out of both Messi and ronaldo.


Ronaldinho was different. Ronaldinho played where they was heavy reliance on individual play. No adjusting system to suit anybody. Just go to the field and play....

If you built a system around Ronaldinho in his prime, he'll score 100 goals per season.

Too many IFs
Sorry that is not how the world works.
Xavi+iniesta assist to messi was very minute, so bone DAT point

Topmaike007:
Op must be high on Osogbo weed, Messi that has never won any major trophy for his country is op number 1

Is that the new standard for ascribing sm1 with the GREATEST TITLE.
I didn't hear u guys say this in 2015. And u were still shouting "Ronaldo is greater than messi" then

Originalsly:
How?.... at times he's just an ordinary player?...no serious threat to the opponents?

Ask any other person u know and they would tell you the same.
Two guys shared 10 ballon d'or back to back. They are in the news for about 12+ years and still counting.
If there was ever a best player by abilities, nobody can drag it with our dear Ronaldinho, but how many years did he do that for?

frankmoney:
List should be
1. Cristiano Ronaldo 2. Lionel Messi 3. Ronaldinho 4. Kaka 5. Ronaldo

The word GREATEST . what does it mean to you?

Noel1:
Maradona retired in 1997 bro

Robinho is still playing, do u know wat team he plays for now? Exactly, the 1997 maradonna was off the football radar

stefanbanach:
People of this generation claim Messi is the best. Some say Cristiano is the best....

Ronaldinho is simply Cristiano and Messi put together.

Don't you think? Every girl would rather have a C-cup breasts that would stand firm for soooo long , Dan a F-sized breasts that would only stand for 2 yrs and in the next year would fall and start pointing at the floor.
Ronaldinho lacked consistency.
(He is the best toh me tho, followed closely by messi)

Noel1:
I seriously wonder hw anyone could make DAT list without Maradona?

Its clearly written on the title na. LAST 25 YEARS

Beverlyjean:
Has modric ever carried any team to a major trophy in his career??

Is this "carry any team to a major trophy" also an individual trophy for Kaka?

PS: I think kaka should be in the list also. But, ur point is wavy, if I use it against ur Ronaldo now, you would shout FOUL

ediko5:
Yeah I knew you didn't include the last link cos you said you won't quote any religious faith book.

But followed the link till the end which I'm yet to finish.

Yet to finish?? Not really much in content tho.
When u finish let meh know

Einstein searched for God's validity. He concluded there is, and in fact he blived the feeble human mind can't comprehend so much about this God .
But, to him he reasoned the Christian God can't be TRUE, with some reasons like DAT.
Einstein knew and believed there is God. Einstein blived in Spinoza's God.

ediko5:
Lol. But instead your posts in the link you shared. The last parts you went biblical quoting Bible portions.

https://www.everystudent.com/journeys/who2.html

You would sure see that. I reasoned about God's existence a long time ago. With every thing that works for me. With faith, with thoughts and with Logic. They all arrived at the same thing.
My logical analogy was similar to the one I posted its link. So rather than type out sooo long Epistles, I decided to post the link for this which I came across not too long.
U didn't notice? I purposely didn't include the last part(link) to avoid unnecessary confusion. So I finalised it myself.
Just as I intentionally didn't ascribe this logically-proven God to any faith or religion.

JeromeBlack:

Are you the same with @davien?. Moreover, I didn't see your counter. Well, Now you know there is God.
cheers.

ediko5:
@Blabbermouth, I'm still reading your articles. I'm in the second epistle. So far, from your posts, you're an erudite Christian compare to some half-baked Pastors.

A good Christian should be able to argue about the existence of God without quoting Bible verses just as you did.

I'll return here when I'm done.

Funny man, what makes you think i'm a Christian?

davien:
Address my points coherently(one after the other, reply each post as I did).

And most importantly, clarify each term in the context you are referring to... Awaiting your reply to my posts(remember to quote and address each notion so the debate can progress)

Though what is true about your "EPISTLES", is that they're unfounded and leads up to the "begging the question" fallacy.. What you're trying to prove is beyond logic... Hence faith is the medium it is believed with.

I actually don't know how to do it the way you did {the quotes I mean }. Tell me something, have u really gone thru those epistle in the link?

davien:
We've already established the notion of nothing cannot be put in use by physical states from my previous reply to your post.

How do we know we can group it as a something instead of somethings? Or categorize it as an eternal something and not an eternal group of things each one more "eternal" than the last and thus arriving at a something that isn't as "eternal" as the rest(that-is our universe)?
I put numbers in front of each claim to make you realize your folly.
For 1
What needs/requirement can we deduce from logic for an eternal something/somethings when we don't know it's properties or can even call it a collective something and not things that interact with both itself and other things it might inhabit or interact with?
We don't know to what extent or ability it requires and fulfills or fails to acquire.

For 2
Whatever is possible doesn't mean it can be done or exists directly from a thing. It's plausible to have elements orders of magnitude above the ones in the periodic table but those elements don't exist naturally.
It's possible to have 5 or more fingers but not all humans express the genes to give them that.

You have no reason to claim this something/somethings can do all things possible.

For 3
This logic doesn't even hold true in our universe.. Our sun was formed by hydrogen nuclei fusing together, it's substance isn't greater than what it produced.. A lot of things aren't greater than their creations. Assumption mute.


How do we verify this claim? And if you can claim from 2 that it has "needs" then it must be influenced by something other than itself..
So your "logic" is attacking itself here.
How do we know this?

How did you come about the claim it can decide things? And aren't decisions options influenced by needs or pathways that need to be explored?
So again, your logic is attacking itself here, if it has no needs not already met by itself, what prompts decisions if it can even make any at all?
Nope, your previous claims aren't true. You're cherry picking here and it has crumbled your logic.
The above is nothing but wishful thinking and cherry picking.. You started good but had a preconceived notion at hand.

Beloved, (are u @JeromeBlack?)
1. Check out the link I posted a page b4 where the final epistle you saw is, the logical reply to all your assumptions is there. CHECK THAT OUT FIRST
2.NOTHING in that context was used to facilitate understanding. Because it isnt in your realm doesn't mean it can't exist. If u have never felt PAIN, and someone else was telling u how pain is like, you would say "Logically, it isn't part of anything I've felt therefore u are a liar, it doesn't exist". If ye Will, use the SOMETHING/SOMEONE u are accustomed to, either ways, if u re-read the link , then the final epistle , you would still arrive at what I was trying to pass across
3. That your notion of " cat can't produce anything other than cat" tell me please *Robots, Humanoid, Sex Doll* are they really human? , why can't your notion for cat hold same for HUMANS. Now u see don't you? Also I don't see how these things can be greater than humans.
4. Tell me in summary, your notion is "if I can't see, touch or feel it, it doesn't exist" .I laugh in calculus.
5. Almost everything in that epistle, was based on logic of "what is evident presently"
If I see an art in a hotel room(the evident), I could conclude from logic that, "An artiste made the art" if not, there would be no such art in that room.
A simple brain teaser
Where does the numbers (123) start from?
6. Once again go and re-read those epistles from the scratch b4 dragging meh back to things that has been cleared already.
7. If u now see anything out of place.
Pinpoint them, so it could be ironed outeternal

Beverlyjean:
Really!!!! Wow... Like they shined after he left ...shey

Either ways, they still don't shine. A stupid glory seeker

Jokerman:
Lol.... All these pale to utter insignificance to the fact that out asun has played 4 finals and lost all

Come to think of it oooo, its true. Coupled with the fact that ronaldo won 2, yet no single golden ball award. Lemme call messi to dash him 1, so he can truly say -I CONQUERED FOR COUNTRY.

Jokerman:
My fellow Messi fan, when will our Barca asun win something with his national team like his godfather Maradona??

Tell them o, it seems to have an Eder in a national team is very expensive.
How could he just be showing individual greatness with MVP in all national tournament. DAT lion(el) should have only featured in the semi final. And score those higuain chances himself.
By the way sm1 just scored his 1st Free-kick for his club since the past two years or so..
Did u hear about it?

Jokerman:
Lol... Pele... Overrated??

This Messi fans sef...

No mind am , he forgot the 1,200+ goals pele scored mostly In friendlies and other unofficial matches. And how football was a part time job to any footballer who was not a star then.
That guy is a real joker jare, let's leave him

iLegendd:
Since you're a Nigerian you'll need to pay it. We don't have a tax treaty with the USA.

Ohhh. I see, buh there should be around this na?
U are experienced in the stuff, do u still pay tax?

iLegendd:
The only purpose of this thread is to motivate a few people to keep writing and publishing. Every smart person deserves to have an online Real Estate.

Thanks bobo. By the way, how do I evade that motherf**king tax. Jeff bezos can't just take 30% like dat

iLegendd:
The takeaway here is: you can stay in your room and make millions with book business if only you're willing to discipline yourself and do the work when others are asleep.

In the morning, when others are going to work to work for money, you'll be asleep while the work you did at night is working for money for you.

Below is small money a book I uploaded on Amazon on this 1st of this month made while I was asleep.

B4 u sleep, Abeg is there anyway for meh to create a payoneer acct without A Driving license And National ID card in Nigeria .

iLegendd:
that's true because of 2 things.
1. It blends into the background, so it fits smoothly. 2. The inverted Nike logo is longer and that makes it elegant.
Though, the company needs DT, not TD.

Yeah, u connect.

iLegendd:
So, someone I know picked interest and I decided to design a logo for free for his YouTube channel. If you want a logo, go to Graphic Design section of Nairaland an hire one of the the guys there or go to Fiverr. You can do it yourself if you know how to use Photoshop.

Haven't finished the design yet.

The "TD" design is far better as a professional logo than this "DT" design.

Jokerman:
Fine then it's in this order

Ibrahimovic > Ronaldo > Messi

Are u so pained that u have to mention messi in a zlatan-ronaldo issue.
Those points i mentioned are the 2 nonsense u guys say against messi. I used it against Ronaldo now, u felt ridiculed.
Start watching live performance of players and not their goals on livescores
Bye.....

jesusjnr:
I don't know what you mean by "that exact thing" but you can deduce exactly what Job did from this saying of God, who put the hedge, to Satan, who couldn't dare try to cross it without God's permission:

Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? Job 1:8 (KJV)

Now I believe that this is no different to several men who have walked with God at the highest level of faith, but what this story of Job did was give us a rare inside view of what actually transpires in heaven between God and Satan whenever a descendant of sinful Adam, against all odds of his own free will chooses to live an upright and perfect life in the fear of God.

For as crazy as it may sound, that rarely happens, considering how inclined humans are to evil and disobedience. So whenever it happens it's usually a big deal.

Therefore you can see what it meant to God for such an occasion gave Him a rare opportunity to have something to proud of before Satan.

Hence the hedge, for God would protect such a person with everything at His disposal, and unless God permits it anyone who tries to touch such a person would be doing so to their own peril, for even Satan is not that foolish as you can see on that occasion.

And I actually believe that Satan is only as powerful as our disobedience of God's Word makes him, for this can be drawn from the beginning, for Satan had no power over man or the woman until they disobeyed God's Word, so if they had obeyed God Word Satan's powers would have been powerless in their case.

So it wasn't a coincidence that the person that was able to overpower Satan was someone perfect with no sin or disobedience found in Him, and that it was only by God's permission that His life was touched.

And I believe the more we are like Him in obedience of God's Word and perfection, the more we would be likewise.

Hmm..... I'm quite concerned that your first two instances of what you perceive as ordinances and principles of the world have to do with money, because you have to "beware of covetousness" as Jesus would say and such things that could choke the Word of God in your life.

Having said that, I believe that righteousness as it applies in the saying "righteousness exalts a nation" is a principle that's also applies to the world. For the definition of righteousness to me is not the imaginary righteousness in some church doctrines where it is posited as a belief even though there are no works to back it up, but in practical terms and real works as in "love your neighbor as yourself".

For such righteousness would make someone not to steal, kill, cheat, etc., with respect to his neighbor, so it's the culminating result of that in a nation that would lead to it being exalted.

So you can observe how some nations who don't even acknowledge God as a nation are being exalted by such righteousness, while a nation as Nigeria where churches are just about everywhere you go, despite being blessed with so much natural resources, is yet one of the most backward and reproached nations on Earth, for the lack of such righteousness which exalts a nation.

So deeds of righteousness works for any nation or peoples on the face of the Earth, and God has shown Himself overtime to love such righteousness I must add.

God bless.

God Bless..
Money and covetousness?? am not really a fan of those things. Maybe bcus those ones were the first ones I put into practice and saw evident result almost immediately.
Pleeease, I need more of those principles and ordinance, if they be too long to lay down, kindly refer me with biblical verses.

Jokerman:
Lol...

Ronaldo

La liga best player 2014
EPL best player 2007 and 2008
SerieA best player 2018

Ibrahimovic

?

Messi

Laliga best player only

Ibrahimovic, 6 leagues conquered. That 3 more than the leagues Ronaldo had conquered.
Let Ronaldo stop hiding in already made lion teams and move to average ones like zlatan had done b4 we can start comparing.

Jokerman:
What year did he deserve it?

On the same level with cristiano, remember?

OPTIMUSPRIME08:
At the hit of big occasion he go hide
Where was he when the world best GOAT eliminated him from Euro right in front of his own home fans

They are on the same level (individually)

jesusjnr:
No we are not doomed sis!

For remember the hedge?

And that was before the coming of Jesus with something much greater and more powerful than whatever Job had. Yet Satan in all of his powers and evil devices couldn't penetrate or gain access to any thing that belonged to Job, until God permitted him.

And it's possible that it was Job's worst fears for what was beyond his control such as what his children did, that Satan used against him, for he said that it was the things he greatly feared that had come upon him(Job 3:25).

Not knowing that he didn't need to fear because that which he was doing which was within his control had covered for all those things which were beyond his control, and therefore made it impossible for Satan to be able to breach them(Job 1:9-10).

That's why I don't attach much importance to what Satan does to be honest, but what we do as believers, for I believe that Satan is only as powerful as we make him to be in our affairs.

So we should focus on that which is within our control, even our walk with God and make sure it is sure, and not what is beyond our control.

For it's through what is within our control that we can make it impossible for Satan to be able to prevail against us with what is beyond our control.

God be with you.

Its been 2 weeks sire, since I commenced the compilation of some open secrets {worldly ordinance} that a lot of Christians and non-christains seem to be ignorant about.
What was in job's work then, that made God put a protective hedge around him, that even Satan couldn't come close.?
I really need to know, that exact thing. It also seems that he was one of those rare men b4 jesus , that Satan couldn't affect nor manipulate.
Moreover, have u also knowledge of other ordinance and principles of the world?
I know of;
1. The Givers{from the heart] never lack. Not that they become rich, but they are and will always be contended
2. The grace and blessing in tithing {not just money and possession alone, and also one's time}

and some others
Pls kindly state as much as you know