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FatherOfJesus:
Stop saying what you don’t know, nobody said man came from somewhere. Are you this scientifically illiterate?

That's an implication of your position that you are not ready to admit. Give up already!

Even a novice in science knows that all the elements in the periodic table come from cosmic rays and stars. I wonder why you don’t know this.

You are made of primarily carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen and phosphorus. All these elements were made in stars far from here.

The elements did it before right? They should do it again.
1. Since forever, you still don't have any evidence of man forming from the stars in the sky.
You keep blabbing nonsense without any evidence.

2. Tell me atomic constituents of LIFE. Why some matters are living, while others are not.

Before you embarrass yourself any further and show your gross scientific ignorance. Open your google and browse about “Betelgeuse” it’s a red giant star that will soon explode and scatter all its elements into space made from nuclear fusion. It will give insight on how elements of the periodic table were formed.

I feel like you don’t understand all the terms I’m using, the Holy Spirit cannot reveal this to you

You do nothing but pour all over the place trying to show you keep up to date with the latest scientific happenings.
Read the trash you wrote up there, how does that backup your point?

FatherOfJesus:
now I have to start taking you on elementary science. I will try my best.

Do you know basic planetary geography? Seems like you are embarrassing yourself here.

I expect you to be loaded. Don't fail me please.

FatherOfJesus:
i want to know where your problem is.

What about genetics, what level of knowledge do you have? If you have any then you will realize how ridiculous creating eve from Adam’s ribs.

Just tell me the truth, I can give you some rudiments. I’m not trolling anymore, I want to help you

You will continue to have a problem equating God with man.

I designed something and I gave you a front end. Due to the limitedness of front end, you go all about saying so so so is not possible.
What's that about? It's my design, and I can do anything in the back end!

That was why I went straight for the Jugular, you only argue against the bible because you see God as some high-budget Albert Eistein.

FatherOfJesus:
dude man do not fall inside earth

Don't be silly, I mentioned that to show you how irreasonable you sound

Do you live in a cave?

Let’s don’t go far?

No evidence yet for man coming from anywhere except by reproduction.
Going far will definitely kill you, so for your sake, let's not go far.

So how was the initial 3 days calculated without the earth orbiting the sun?

Not specified.
Moses, didn't even talk about other planets neither did he say anything about heaven or the heavens.
The Lord himself was the one that made use realize that Heaven was completed before the earth. They weren't made at the same time!
All you have in Genesis is the little man needs to know for the time being

Have you ever had of a supernova? But first answer the question on how the 3 initial days was calculated

Nothing about supernova will help you.

tspun:
I remember 4 years ago I created a thread about how my ex that am planning to get married to stole from me. I was so young and heartbroken and I promise never to fall in love again.

Fast forward to 4 years later am in love again and am getting married on 5th of December 2020, you are all invited

Is she on nairaland?
Happy married life.

PS: Some here might talk like an untrained child, no mind them, na just clout. Deep down, they are happy for you.

FatherOfJesus:
I agree I will play a game with you and then you will commit numerous fallacies that I will point out and you will check by yourself

The onus is on you. If there are going to be fallacies, it's going to be yours.

FatherOfJesus:
1. In the beginning, god created heaven and earth and on the forth day he created the sun.
Lies, evidence from radiometric dating confirms that the sun is few million years older than earth. How did you even count 3 initial days without the sun?

The earth before the light was without form and void. What portion of it was used for your radio metric dating?

2. God created man from mud.
Big lie, evidence confirmed that man and every living thing are made of atoms. Mostly carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, phosphorus. All of these atoms were made and are still been manufactured in stars except hydrogen that was created during the Big Bang. Living things are made of atoms from exploded and dead stars.

That's why it would be better for you to use plain reasoning, it will not fail you.
What you call evidence is what some group of seeming experts in their field churn out for you, and you come here to call it evidence.

Keyword: Man and every living things are made of atoms

1. No man has fallen into this earth from the explosion of a dead star since forever ago.
Hahahahahaha, not even an insect

2. No non-living thing has ever become a living since forever ago.

Has the process suddenly stopped since it realized that there are enough living already?

What is factual is reproduction from a first kind, not some ape-to-human nonsense, or this ridiculous heliumi and lithiumic man.

Hahahahahaha hahaha ahahhaa

3. God created Eve from Adam’s ribs.

I can’t believe adults believe this. This will imply that Adam and Eve will have exactly the same genetic makeup, and it will be impossible for them to mate.

Keyword: They will have the same genetic make-up

1. According to who?
Use your brain please, not another man's apology.

2. As a robotic engineer, using the same AI to build 2 robots does not mean they will perform exactly the same way.
What and how they behave is totally dependent on I, the programmer [in this case, creator]

3. There is no evidence whatsoever for your claim. What do we have?
Some atheistical fantasy spiced up with some assumption that has never been observed before.

4. God created heaven and earth in 7days. Lol

We have evidence today from several space telescopes that stars, planets, nebula, black holes are still forming. The radiometric evidence we have says that earth is more than 4billion years old and it has changed since then. How can you create everything in 6days.
Very laughable.

Keyword: How can you create everything in 6 days?

We are talking about an entity presumed to be omnipotent, not some high-budget Albert Einstein.
If He cannot create everything in 6 days, why call Him God?

5. Noah’s flood happened 4,000 years ago.
This is the biggest scam and lie of the century. Till date there’s no evidence of a global flood 4000years ago. As much as we know, the Mesopotamian civilization existed 4,000years ago and they didn’t record a flood. A global flood that happened for a year would have been difficult to hide. The evidence will be very conspicuous. And the Bible said he harbored all species on earth in a ship built with wood for one year, lol . All animals moved from their respective place to a boat built by An amateur in Middle East and we can’t find fossil records to confirm this? It’s laughable

The absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence. Before Mt. Everest was discovered, it has always been the tallest mountain, just that it has not been discovered yet.

Keyword: How did Noah put all kinds of animals in some 1/4 low-budget Titanic.

We cannot speak particularly of that, as that would remain a mystery yet unsolved to some of us. Yea, I might have a presumption and say - God likely did it like this. But as far as this is concerned, I will keep researching till it is revealed.
What shall we say then, Noah incident never happened? God forbid! It's a case where the yet unenlightened ones among us will say - We do not know how the Almighty did it, just as we do not know yet 1,000,001 things He did.

The Bible is a big mythological lie. Everything about that book is lie upon lie that is very easy to spot if you haven’t been indoctrinated. Drop your own biblical lie below

By someone who only went to church to charge his phone.

FatherOfJesus:
This is how to engage in logical arguments.

Points were presented by your opponent, hit the point instead of hitting the opponent.

In logic this is called ad hominem.

A lot you guys think you are arguing with your fellow brethren in church. You have typed more than 1000words without refuting any point presented. And you want me to play a game with you
Straw man, that’s not how arguments are done. Maybe you should first go learn how not to commit fallacies first

Your original posts are full of points from a bible-illiterate thinking he reads the same way he reads a school book.

I should answer them you say, hahahahahaha, I will.

After, we will play that game, agreed?

FatherOfJesus:
you are just committing fallacies upon and down. How do I even debate with you when you don’t even have basic knowledge of logic.

The Bible is not an authority, it’s only an authority in Christianity, the evidence before everyone is refute whatever the Bible has said.

You keep committing fallacies again and again without refuting any point presented.
Common, this is a logical argument and not your Sunday school service.

Maybe I should number it.
1. In my discussion with you, I am not taking the bible as an authority. I haven't quoted any thing so far.

2. You say the bible is false, yet you don't know the bible.

3. You don't have a ground calling a bible false when you don't even know what it is about in the first place.

4. Go and know the bible first, before you can call the bible false.

PS: Where is the point you presented? Those rubbish in your original post?
You not understanding anything from Genesis 1?

FatherOfJesus:
The problem here is that nobody has successfully provided evidence for the existence of a god. So we can’t even research the qualities of what doesn’t exist

Didn't you just say this thread is all about credibility of the bible?
Same you are talking about how no one has proved the existence of a god.

The penmanship of a perfect writer is not what makes the bible what it is, the protagonist of the bible is what makes the bible what it is.

FatherOfJesus:
This justify the fact that we can’t depend on whatever those archaic people wrote, they didn’t understand how the universe works

Another false eisegesis.
It justifies that you don't know Jack about the bible.
If I put forward a theory, only those that know this or that about that field are credible to refute or add to my theory. You can't come about telling me how something about my theory in a field I am an expertise of, does not seem like it just to you.

If you want to call the bible false, then you should at least know the bible for what it is.
You just like a nursery school kid looking at Da Vinci's or Eistein's works on paper.

You wanna call the bible false, know the bible first.

Let's play a game.
If you win, I will renounce my faith and remain an atheist for life.

If you lose, you will, at least become agnostic.

I request, you answer.

Using science, logical reasoning or any other factual means, tell me how this universe can come to be without
1. A cause with life
2. A cause with will
3. A cause without a beginning

You trust science, don't you? C'mon, don't be a coward, show your cards, use any available scientific theory you want - Big bang, universe birthing universe, multiverse, universe from nothing or whatever.

So, science boy, you wanna play?

FatherOfJesus:
1. In the beginning, god created heaven and earth and on the forth day he created the sun.
Lies, evidence from radiometric dating confirms that the sun is few million years older than earth. How did you even count 3 initial days without the sun?

2. God created man from mud.
Big lie, evidence confirmed that man and every living thing are made of atoms. Mostly carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, phosphorus. All of these atoms were made and are still been manufactured in stars except hydrogen that was created during the Big Bang. Living things are made of atoms from exploded and dead stars.

3. God created Eve from Adam’s ribs.

I can’t believe adults believe this. This will imply that Adam and Eve will have exactly the same genetic makeup, and it will be impossible for them to mate.

4. God created heaven and earth in 7days. Lol

We have evidence today from several space telescopes that stars, planets, nebula, black holes are still forming. The radiometric evidence we have says that earth is more than 4billion years old and it has changed since then. How can you create everything in 6days.
Very laughable.

5. Noah’s flood happened 4,000 years ago.
This is the biggest scam and lie of the century. Till date there’s no evidence of a global flood 4000years ago. As much as we know, the Mesopotamian civilization existed 4,000years ago and they didn’t record a flood. A global flood that happened for a year would have been difficult to hide. The evidence will be very conspicuous. And the Bible said he harbored all species on earth in a ship built with wood for one year, lol . All animals moved from their respective place to a boat built by An amateur in Middle East and we can’t find fossil records to confirm this? It’s laughable


The Bible is a big mythological lie. Everything about that book is lie upon lie that is very easy to spot if you haven’t been indoctrinated. Drop your own biblical lie below

Bacteriologist:
More lies from the bible:

A talking snake
A talking donkey

Your folly began the day you started seeing God from Man's limitedness.

A talking donkey - You said. What's so special about a talking donkey? An entity is Omnipotent, and you are technically saying - No, he still shouldn't be able to make donkeys talk.

I bet my testicles over this, give Man just 3 century more and He [Man] will make a fowl talk.
If you existed at, say, 500BC, and I, Perhaps time travelled and told you how you can talk to someone and even see someone 10,000 miles away by just using a small box, you will never believe!
You will call me insane, foolish, and sick, but I am actually right and you are the ignorant one.
Cus, right now, we have a cell phone that actually makes this possible.

Science was meant to understand the mechanism of the Natural.
However the "Super" in "supernatural" is what makes science [at least, natural/material science] an inefficient tool for analyzing the supernatural.

The sun refusing to set

You never did relative motion in physics?
You are so quick to think like a modern man forgetting that if you were in Joshua's time, that is exactly what you will call it.

An omnipresent god playing hide and seek with Adam and Eve

Ok.

a flat earth

Bring the Bible verse.

Elijah flying into space on a chariot

Aeroplane is an even more intelligent design [although, I didn't see Elijah's chariot].

Be honest with yourself, how will you describe an aeroplane if you saw one 5,000 years ago?
I: A big bird swallowed men and used a furnace in its wings to carry men into the heaven.

It's a pity adults who are supposedly educated believe in such unfortunately ridiculous amount of superstitious nonsense and believe it to be true.

Learn.
Nature for natural
Spirit for supernatural

Angels cannot understand how you shook shook and 9 months later, another you come forth.

V

On your question on will. Y'all just need to read my GOAT movie thread and stop asking redundant questions like my shameless old man, Janosky.
If God put on flesh and blood, it meant he was really going to experience the sensations of flesh, duh!
His mind, knowing the unbearable, excruciating pain his weak flesh would endure obviously got bothered and wondered if there was a less painful way to execute his divine will, proving he really took on flesh and blood while Father in heaven didn't have a flesh and blood hence never considered such. The difference between both wills was simply flesh awhich had never been part of their divine being in the first place.
But regardless, you could see his real heart, revealing his ultimate will and desire, even in spite of the fear when he says: "Nevertheless..."

Now, this is one of the funniest excuses i've read on a sunday.
So, God put on flesh and blood and came to earth while a part of him was still sitting on the throne in heaven. God 2 [Jesus] was Just God in a flesh body i.e. the only thing that changed from God 1 was body.
God 2 got bothered and wondered if there was a less painful way to execute his divine will?
Qst: Where is he inquiring from? Is he inquiring from God 1?

Because of a change in body, God 1 had a different will from God 2. However, God 2 will put his will aside and follow God 1's will.
Qst: If you were cloned 100%, can you have a different will from yourself?
Fortunately for me, but unfortunately for you, what God did [according to your trinity doctrine] was something even madder and accurate than cloning. Wherever He is, whatever form he takes, whoever he enters, however he does it, God MUST/SHOULD/WILL remain the same!
For He himself said of himself - I am the LORD, I changeth not - [Not my will, nor my goal, nor my person, nor my nature, nor my authority, nor anything at all]
Let me add
1. Jesus was tempted with Evil
2. Jesus DIED! According to trinity - GOD DIED! God die? U na chop winch? it's like saying LIFE DIED. It's like saying JOY SAD. It's like saying LIGHT DARK.

Don't be a joker, don't you see this is 2 different entity here? Look at all the implication of your excuse(s) above.
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You see beloved, the mistake many make about Jesus' identity is in the inability to differentiate revelational writing from prophetic writings.
You don't just open a scripture and say - Hey guys, this means bla bla bla.

If you take another man's revelation as a literal writing [instead of going for the revelation behind the writing], you will surely dabble into error.
Do you want to know about the person of Jesus? Start from Genesis 1:1.
- Where was Jesus first prophesied?
- What's the origin of Jesus, His purpose and his ministry
- What other prophecies do the prophets of old prophesied about Jesus.
Many just come from new testament, open Paul's writing [with no prior knowledge of the person of Jesus] and end up saying - Jesus is Yahweh.
Cc: DrLiveLogic

DrLiveLogic, I went through your quoted reply that was clamped by the bot.

1. Psalm 102, what does it prove? What did I deny?

2. 2 Cor 3:17? Hahahahahahaha, hahahahahahaha. Go ahead and tell me what it means.

Be careful of false eisegisis and strawmans.

DrLiveLogic:
Yes johnw47, thanks much. Don't think the mods respond to the mail though. Thought it was the links I posted so I removed them, then I noticed when I quoted blbmth, I got banned again.
The site bot's algorithm's got glitches and it looks like they're gonna do a thing 'bout it. I've been trying to post on Bingbagbo's "Father is greater than I" thread, the following reply to Blabbermouth's comment:
"I stopped wishing the day I realized I CAN ACTUALLY DO IT MYSELF."

My reply:

Cc: Bingbagbo, chatinent

Are you still getting banned baselessly by the bot?
If not, how about you create a thread [or better still, I will come in to your G.O.A.T movie thread] and we dig this truth?

Hahahahahahaha, I do hope you have the wisdom of God in you, you [and I] will be needing a lot.

PS: I don't see any mentions whenever you mention my name. If not for Zzor quoting you, I wouldn't have seen this at all.

I don't know if others also don't see your mention.

chatinent:
Spiritual things matter.

Have a nice century. You are welcome.

It doesn't matter, neither is there anything spiritual there.

Find discussions that has salvational value, not some how-many-lion-did-samson-kill topics.

saaphiere:
No. It's very annoying. NL men hate good things coming from or going to women.

The same way you wish for a rich and charitable man is the same way every real redpiller wishes for a virgin to marry [even after straffing many many girls].

It's all survival instinct, and it's very very normal.

saaphiere:
Cry me a river. You all hate to see good things come to women.

I laugh. Yahoo girl.

MaxInDHouse:
Whenever the highlighted suffice please! please!! please!!! I'm begging on my knees, don't hesitate to inform me because that's the only thing that can convince me that Jesus is not just a fictional character or fabrication of some people! John 17:20:23

You won't need anyone to say - Here, come and see the big family of Christ! Neither will you need anyone to lead you to their dwelling place.

The sun's rays lightens up anywhere it penetrates and no one is expected to alert anyone - the sun is rising!

Same is as this Assembly of the called out ones that I speak of.

But until then, i stand firmly with JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, they're the one and only group that's making everything Jesus said in that book come to life! Matthew 5:13-16

Well, we might have our differences [I recently realized that they are many] in doctrines, but If you truly name the name of Christ, believe in Christ Jesus and his God, then go on with your worship, I will go on with mine. Till Christ gathers all that are His under one umbrella, I say - Goodluck!

emblem2d:
@Blabbermouth; i wana beliv is God dah directed u to me... U knw wat? I've been wrecked by masturbtn for 8 solid yrs... It has taken a toll on my life; socially, academicaly, morally,spiritually nd otherwise.

You won't believe me, I can relate.

I think i hv even ruptured my penix due to the prone mastrbsn i use to practics.

Anyone that doesn't understand how hard it is will tell you to just STOP as if it is that easy.
I do hope you've not ruptured your penis. Get engaged doing a lot of things at once; it's literally not possible to masturbate while playing football or doing something very engaging. Your penis would need time to heal.

Like I said - please join a masturbation quitting challenge or challenge yourself not to masturbate till this year runs out. Don't get discouraged when you relapse, you will be using that same relapse to cure that PE.
If it's porn, watch it but don't touch it [your d***]. It's an exercise I practiced [before meeting my Lord though] that boosted my sexual stamina.

You should never touch that d*** again for this year, if you do I will be angry with you, smile.... But then, if you end up touching and masturbating, DO NOT c*m please!
If you do, it's back to level 1.

This habit has done so many harm to me dah i can't type it all now.

I get you, trust me, I do.

emblem2d:
..........
What do u think?
Have u had such an xperienc before?

What do i think?
I think you should reflect on your whole life and see that you are going on a down slope.
It started with masturbation
Then masturbation begat Sex with a LovePeddler.
Then you realized that you now suffer from Premature Ejaculation.
The drive to come out of that is causing you to repeat the same cycle.
Now Sex with whores begat Immoral and perverse Incestous sex.

After numerous 5 minutes sex with your cousin, who knows the next level you will enter?

While all I said above may be harsh, you should understand that it's because I'm concerned - was woven in masturbation for years just like you.

Brother, let's kill 2 birds with a stone.
Whether it's to motivate yourself, promise yourself, take a masturbation quitting challenge or whatever, Be determined to Stop masturbation.

Sure, you will relapse - it's inevitable!
But then, that is also vital!
If you use porn to masturbate, whenever you are overpowered [relapsing], while you watch the porn, DO NOT MASTURBATE.

In my experience, I realized that the power of masturbation rides on the wings of its trigger.

When you relapse, watch the porn but do not masturbate! [This will actually reconfigure your sexual system so you can last long in bed]

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After many relapses where you didn't masturbate but only watched pornography, it's possible you hit a point where your desire over powers you and you find your hands working on your dick.

Try to stop it, but If you can't, make sure you don't cum/orgasm/release!

If you release, I'm sorry, you just extend the number of days before your years of masturbation are over.

Without that release, masturbation is nothing.
Without that masturbation [to a masturbator, at least], porn is nothing.

It's proven by the way, the above practice will help you last long.

MaxInDHouse:
How do you know JWs don't agree with Jesus?

Jesus: I'm not a spirit, I am flesh and bones
JW: No, you are a spirit.

Jesus himself said so many things on how to recognize his GROUP so that anywhere you find them you can easily know them. But if you don't think Jesus meant a specific group will surface then it means Christians can't unite as one big family where unbelievers will hate them globally! Matthew 10:22

That one big family will happen soon. Like I've stressed out many times, that big family will answer to only 1 king - Lord Jesus.

As for the bolded, keep for those whom you're sure that they agreed with Jesus, i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses and i can only tell you what all JWs globally believe, and since you think we don't agree with Jesus, it will be better you ask those that agreed with Jesus!

No be fight na.
Jesus said - Guys, I no be spirit, I am confirm flesh and bones.

If Paul rises from the dead and says something contrary to this, I will ignore him!

If Peter rises from the dead and says something contrary to what he [Peter himself] confirmed, I will ignore him!

How much more a GROUP that claimed it was chosen by God in the 1900s?

That's me for you, Christ over anything, yea, even over me!

I still [really really] wish that JW were consistent with Christ concerning Hell. I speak as a man, annihilation is perfect to me.

But the WORD himself said - Confirmed lake of fire, Alive!
I will take his words over mine anyday anytime, thrice on Friday.

MaxInDHouse:
Perfect physical bodies must possess sexual organs Sir!

So it's either you agree with JWs that Jesus resurrected as a spirit or you agree that he must possess a dick!

Agree with JWs? Do JWs agree with Jesus? No! He literally said - Guys,
Jesus ressurected is flesh and bones, not a spirit. He even asked them - shey Spirits dey get flesh and bones, come and handle me na, I am flesh and I am bones.

Talking about Dick - I didn't tell you he didn't resurrect with one.
Neither did I tell you he resurrected with one.

If you are wise, you can go ahead with telling giving me a detailed scriptural anatomy of the first man before his fallen state
- Does he have blood?
- Does he excrete?
- Does he eat against hunger and thirst?
- Can he be injured or subjected to accidents

Goodluck.

MaxInDHouse:
With this comment you've proved here that you're just trying to conceal your ignorance in DappaD's thread!

So Jesus never resurrected with his physical body for that would have meant having all his body parts functioning perfectly, of course he doesn't need that body no more therefore the truth is clear that what his followers saw and touched was a materialised form of body to show them that he is alive (in the spirit) and not back as a human (in the flesh)

I am asking him why Jesus ought to resurrect with a dick.
How does that contradict anything?

By the way, we both know your position is not founded in the scripture. All you have are - we are part of the group Jesus kept on teaching, so listen to us, we are right.
Or, this doesn't make sense, this is what makes sense.

I will take Jesus' own words over anybody anyday anytime, twice on Sunday.

Bacteriologist:
Oh...so there's a spiritual dïck with a spiritual fore skin than needs to be chopped off

The stupidity of religious people knows no bounds

It profiteth more to be still and learn from what he had to say.

1. No spiritual dick. Since the new covenant, it's now a circumcision of the heart [not that little organ that pumps blood though]

2. Talking about Jesus resurrecting with a forekeskin; Does Jesus need a dick after resurrection? Will his body come with a dick?
To remove waste? Definitely not.
To reproduce? Definitely not.

DappaD:
But if now you're saying that Jesus never became a spirit creature after his resurrection, then that means he never saw the Kingdom of God? Because according to Jesus, whoever “born of spirit IS SPIRIT” and only those ones would see God's Kingdom(John 3:3-6)

Hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha

JESUS: the words that I speak to you, they are spirit.

What did Jesus mean?

When will you understand that your doctrine is an embodiment of foolery.
Why will men become angelic creatures? Why should men become angelic creatures?


Hahahahahahaha, I will be made better than Angel Michael when I ressurect.
The big promise was for no creature but MAN!
If worse will come to worst, angels will be transformed to man. If worse will come to worst, lion, goat, fish, bacteria will be transformed to man.

Everything is all a romance, a marriage, a union between God&Man, don't you grab?

ILegendd, I talk am abi I no talk am?
Always knew it was only a matter or time, Elon musk WILL overtake Bezos soon.

Wahala con be like bicycle.
Follow Jesus, follow Jesus them no hear.
Now, a foolish doctrine has caused confusion in their heads.
You don't sew metal and linen together, kolewerk.
It's either you drop that doctrine, or you drop Jesus.

Barristter07:
" For the blood of all flesh is its life; and I said to the children of Israel, Ye shall not eat the blood of any flesh, for the life of all flesh is its blood: every one that eats it shall be destroyed. " Lev 17:14

Is Adam Flesh ?

You will pay for this one, and the price is your humility.
Humble yourself and ask - what is the wisdom behind Lev 17:11?