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FaAbData:
Did you read the passage I shared at all?

It's during and after Muhammad that all these you posted became mandatory.

I'll wait for you to prove that all the Islamic prophets weren't Muslims because they didn't practice all those

Why are you contradicting yourself?

So they didn't do all o stated yet they are Muslims
But all that made someone Muslim became mandatory after muhamed, you dey whine me ni?



Years of making claims are over, where is the evidence?


The God of Abraham is not Allah. The God of Moses is not Allah but Yahweh , the God of the isrealite is a Father and Aallaah is not a father.


So I ask again this time think we'll

Evidence that they were Muslim

And please don't include Yaasua Al massih because that will further create problems for your argument.

solat that means praayer is mow bkessings( baaraakat)


i thought the bible is corrupted , dont use it

lets use the Arabu level thst is uncorrupted


O Allah send your Solat on muhamed


i like this

FaAbData:
When Muslims call Adam, Moses (Musa) they add 'peace be upon him' that phrase is reserved for prophets alone. Adam wasn't just a Muslim, he was a prophet

See is Qur’an 42:13:
“He has ordained for you the same religion which He enjoined upon Noah, and that which We revealed to Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: that you should uphold the religion and not be divided in it.”

All these listed names excited before.

So Adam prayed 5 times
So he went to mecca
So he killed a ram
He went to hajj
He said the shahada ..that muhamed is a prophet
He did abolution
He married 4 wives
He prayed facing mecca
He kissed aa black stone
He stone the devil
He went round cube kaaba 7 times with almost no cloth
??


So Abraham did all this above

Moses did same above , moses that warned that no one should bow towards a black stone...you are funny.

Haaibibi careful I am not your normal unAarabic unQuran person

NOETHNICITY:
Okay! I’m absolutely not angry.


Many Arabs trace their lineage back to Abraham, and many believed that they were worshipping the same God that Abraham worshipped. The Prophet’s own lineage is clearly traced to Ishmael(I can give you the names of his father’s father until Abraham himself) the first son of Abraham, and there is no record indicating that the Prophet’s father practiced idol worship. For the Arabs, the God of Abraham was known by the distinguished name Allah, a name still used by Arab Christians to refer to the Creator of the heavens and the earth. The Arabs also clearly distinguished between Allah and their other deities, each of which had its own name among the 360 idols of the pre-Islamic era—such as Hubal, Manāt, al-‘Uzzā, and others. None of these idols was ever called Allah. In Arabic, a lesser deity or “small god” is referred to as إِلٰه (ilāh), which is different from the proper name Allah.

Now this is nice conversation

To address your point firstly Ishmael is not the fore father of Muhammad linguistically historically and genetically.

Ask Chaptgpt Abraham and Ishmael never journey to Arabia historically archaeological , it was Islamic scholars who made it so , so that Islam can have a sense of belonging to judeo christain faith.

Muhamed father was an idol worshipper and he died an idol worshipper just like his brother mutalab , and muhamed father's name was Abdullah ( slave of Allah). This are facts not sentiments or emotional cupcake.

On the name Allah ... the name was already in use nothing special that was why the meccans were not suprised , one of the reasons they rejected Muhammad though he insulted and destroyed there homes.

The words Ilah in arabic means god, but if you but the definite article Al ( which is THE) before ilah, it will mean The god


The God of Abraham is known as FATHER, but according to the Quraan Allah has no children and it is the worst of sins shirk.. now that is a complete opposite.


All other gods in Mecca are called ilah ( god) be it manat uzza and the rest , muhamed said his own is Al lah.

muslim100:
So you say, but everything you see wrong in Islam there is worse in the Bible.

Regarding killing apostates there are many verses in the Bible saying kill spostates, but Christians don't believe in the Bible - we really thank Allah for that, if not the whole world would have been nuked.

Just one example below, if you want more just indicate. Leviticus 24:16

80%+ of recorded killings and wars in history were done by christians - this is the resl teaching of Bible.

can you calm down why the anger ?

so i made a claim that islam dosent mean peace it means submission to Aallah and muhamed....which is true.


concerning killing apostate how many people have you seen christains kill.... do you even ask yiurself why?

you should haave asked

see zakir naaik script wont work again incase that is whaat is fuelling you.

let me stop here to hear your response

FaAbData:
I'm not a Muslim but it seems you're a bit ignorant.

Muhammad didn't bring Islam, Islam predated him, according to them Adam, the first man was a Muslim. Muhammad only brought the final revelation- Quaran. And he's the major prophet

There were Muslims before Muhammad, oga!

Proof from the Quran that Adam was a Muslim

That he prayed 5 times or did anything from Islamic shariah.


Please don't make claims I mean big claims without evidence to back it up.

Gone are the days Muslim make claims without evidence

NOETHNICITY:
I read his comment, and it’s a simple matter long trashed by average(doesn’t require top scholars) scholars. If you understand the history of the Arabs and their language you would understand this. There is no point explaining to you guys as your minds are already programmed to hate Islam.

My brother no need getting angry

It was a simple question
Which you still ended up not replying.
You said it has been answered, what was the answer since anyone can answer it?


What is Muhammad father's name?

Is Allah a known god before Muhammad?
Or He was a new God not heard of ?
We're the meccans idol worshippers?

Was Muhammed father an idol worshipper?


Can you simplify this in your answer, one might learn and be corrected

NOETHNICITY:
So your entire premise of disproving Islam is on grounds of the name of his father. Beautiful logic

You didn't read his comment


Muhammad father was an idol worshipper
And his name is Abdullah.

Muhammad his son came and said his God name is Allah...


What does thar tells you...think Abdul

That means the news is true

olabrad:
Salat in Arabic means prayer or praise in English. there is no other meaning.

Writing long post will not change the fact that allah prays for muhamed or praised muhamed.

The first instances shows that there is someone greater than allah. The second instance shows that muhamed is greater than allah.

Lying and twisting facts can't save Islam. The world is wiser now.

Don't blame the munafiki he is doing dawah of altaqiyya.

Salat means prayer, but if you say is blessings that will ve wrong as blessings means barakat.


So o Allah send your salat on Muhammad

Either it meaans 4 things
1. Allah is praying to another Allah for Muhammad
2.Allah is praying to Muhammad
3.the men who wrote it down made a mistake or are confused.
4. That muhamed is the man behind Allah, why? This are some of the 99 names. The High one, the praised one, the intercessor, the nazaarite


The truth is inevitable

Islam dosent mean PEACE


Islam means submission to Allah and Muhammed


You can enter the religion but leaving it means death


You must hate the people of the book ( Christians and jews)

Are the cows still angry?

Coder2Client:
Yes.
She was 16 when she got married and 19 when her marriage was consummated with Momo on Allah's revelation.

What are you talking about?

16? Are you sure?
Please gimme the evidence from the hadeeth and Quran


Who is momo

RealLordZeus:
lol.. Muslims scholar are the first to debunk this, so no need of unnecessary gaslighting..
it

Which of the Muslim scholars?

Ir was a Muslim scholar who declared it

Asallam wallaykum


This is a very important topic because prophet Muhammad was such a noble character in the Quran he was given 99 names.

Example of such names THE HIGH ONE, THE PRAISE ONE, THE INTERCESSOR.

During Islamic celebrations it is a thing of joy to kill cow, but do you know the twist?

The cows didn't know that Muhammad is dead, hence why they allow us to kill them.

But if you want to see trouble go to a cow and tell it to the cow ears that Muhammad had died, the cow will wound and nearly kill you.


Try it and see

Deepspirituals:
. let's wait for someone that knows the answer to give the answer since U don't know and I also want to learn. .

At Least someone that Withness when it's been written. If it's God that wrote it or written By man.

There must be a withness.

Let's wait.

Make I buy popcorn 🍿.
Another style they use is oh you don't understand the arabic word used..

If you tell them you understand the arabic word as a student, they will say you know there is a classy way and old qurashy arabic.


See confusion.


Anyway let's wait for them

Deepspirituals:
. I'm asking you too ..can you give Answers

i asked the questions?

Deepspirituals:
Any need to Go to Quranic School again to Read D Quran? It's Already in English and Yoruba now .

Is there any Spiritual Importance,Power or Advantage attached to reciting the Quran in Arabic language only ?
Or must the word of God that came to Muhammad ( SaW) to mankind be recited in Arabic only ?


The Quran is Already translated to English Language now . Is English , Yoruba and Arabic not Languages ?

Does God says if Prayers is Offered in English Version of the Quran ,He would not hear Us ?

Na Simple question oooo ,Make una no turn am to Unnecessary argument.

Simple Yes or No.

I want to Use Surathul Fathia in prayer I can just recites it in Yoruba or English after all God Hears all Prayers

Someone Mentioned he use to experience Bad Dreams ,An Islamic cleric advised him to always


recites Suratul Kursiyu

He said he doesn't know Quran ,He just started reciting the English version in water to bath and drink ..
He Testified that the nightmares stopped oooo

Suratul kursi , English version below .

In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
Allah! There is no God but He,
the Living, the Self-subsisting, the Eternal.
No slumber can seize Him, nor sleep.
All things in heaven and earth are His.
Who could intercede in His presence without His permission?
He knows what appears in front of and behind His creatures.
Nor can they encompass any knowledge of Him except what he wills.
His throne extends over the heavens and the earth,
and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them,
for He is the Highest and Most Exalted.

Allah, the Most High, speaks the truth

is Quran the word of God?

or word of man?

the Quran verse you quoted is it Allah talking or man talking?

You said Al jannah is not earthly expression... but banging 72 virgins non stop and drinking alcohol in Islamic heaven ain't that earthly expression?


Prophet moses never mentioned it
JESUS CHRIST never mentioned such

Where did Muhammed got all this fantasy?


Let's await responses

Is this not contradictory if we pull out some Quran and hadith that contradict this.



How old was Aisha when Muhammad married her?

Is that an age of consent?


Now there were women whom Muhammad married after killing there family members

Is that also age of consent?



I have more



But note the hadith you quoted above and its injunctions..don't change verdict o

Explore2xmore:
Aha! Exposed he doesn't know what salat is in Arabic. Cannot detect it in the Arabic of the verse or any other place and he is here blabbing. It's very obvious you don't know what you state.

So what is SALAAT?

Explore2xmore:
Is the problem the reading or the understanding?



Do you not have a grasp of what you are saying or is it quickly forgotten?



You came to conclusions on what salat is on at least two occasions in response to my post. Remember you say you love Arabic but it appears you don't understand what you claim to love?

Haven established one meaning of salat at least for one context. Now show this exact word Salat in Arabic or transliteration in Quran 33:56 unless you now accept your lies and agree to your unsubstantiated mocking of mischievous intent.

Then provide a definition of altaqiyya from the Arabic you love.

Remember too:

i ask you a simple question what is the meaning of salaat ?


throwing up words wont help you. since you are mixing things up ... lets start from the basics


what does salah means? infact that is even the topic of this threaad ....what is Salaat?



let me ask you again what is salat ? forget the explanation ...lets start from the basics


what is salaat?

please this time don't tell Mickley mouse story.

Don't divert from mecca to medina

Don't allow shaitan to use black dog to scare you


What is salat in arabic?

Explore2xmore:
I updated my response please check. Then I don't know what your native tongue is but obviously certain words in it have meanings determined by context.

Can you clearly pick out the Arabic word salat in the verse you refer too? Do this so we can close

What is salat?

Truly I blame Awolowo and Zik

There ego brought us here




Anyway congratulations to our igbo sister


Sometimes your country can be a prison

Explore2xmore:
I updated my response please check. Then I don't know what your native tongue is but obviously certain words in it have meanings determined by context.

Can you clearly pick out the Arabic word salat in the verse you refer too? Do this so we can close

Is very simple


What does salat means?

Explore2xmore:
Can your Arabic expertise show you the difference between Wa aqimu as-salata lillah
;And establish the prayer for Allah.(Q 2:110)

compared to:

Huwa alladhi yusalli ʿalaykum wa malaʾikatuhu
He is the One who yusalli upon you, and His angels (also). (Q 33:43)

Can you differentiate the linguistic difference between yusalli and yusalluna in the verse of your concern?

Do you know what is called Fusha and how it relates to the Quran and native Arabians study this?

Then give a definition of altaqiyya please.

Funny how one need to study Arabic to understand qquran Islam and muhamed...

Then you learn Arabic the next you will hear is the classical tongue, 7 ways of understanding Quran ....ask yourself what kind of confusion is this?

My friend I have answered you even on your ignorance...

Saalaaaat means prayer.
The way Muslim deny Quranic verses eeh once it contradicts itself and exposes its lies .


Should I show you verses where Allah and muhamed made decisions and nobody must question it? Which buttress the point that according to the Quran Allah send prays or praises to Muhammad.

Explore2xmore:
No point getting reactiive mate.

You should take your own advise

Now the word used is salat which means prayer.

Now the words you are using that it means blessings is not salaat instead it is barakat


Saaaalat means prayer
Barakat means blessings



O Allah send your Salat to/ on muhamed


If salat is prayer , who is Allah praying to on behalf of Muhammad? Or is he prayimg to Muhammad( the High One, the one that should be praised, the intetcessor) all this from muhamed 99 names .



Salat is prayer
Don't play altaqiyya with me

Explore2xmore:
You state being in love with Arabic in your response to Olabrad but loving something and properly understanding it are not the same.
In the phrase Allah sends salah upon the Prophet pbuh . The verb form of salah used shifts its meaning depending on who’s using it. For humans, it refers to prayer; for angels, it’s about supplication; and for Allah, it conveys mercy, blessing, and honor not prayer. In Qur’an 33:43, when it says, He is the One who yusalli upon you, it highlights Allah’s role in guiding believers from darkness into light, showcasing His divine favor. Is Allah praying to believers here? Compare to the one you apparently are critical of as it applies to prophet Muhammad pbuh; Quran 33:56 Indeed, Allah and His angels yusalluna upon the Prophet…”

Classical scholars like Ibn al-Athir and al-Tabari clarify that Allah’s salah is more about commendation than worship. When believers send salah, they’re simply joining in the act of honoring the Prophet pbuh.

Ok nice attempt.


I learn Arabic is that a crime ? And I am sure you ain't an Arab. Which means you still need to learn it. Imagine to know the mind of Allah you a non Arab must learn Arabic language to understand your Allah.

Now back to the topic.

What does salat means?

Let's start from there.