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27Pushing30:
Back to my statement that your thinking here is fundamentally flawed !

You brought an analogy that makes no real application in this argument.

Good to know you’ve admitted that much sha.

Your bible says God created man from sand (like bro at this day in time you still believe this)

God created man that failed then first test. Cool

Your words here are not applicable to the argument at hand thus make no sense.

Whether I believe man was made from the earth or not should not be your concern. Focus on the lecture at hand

27Pushing30:
The robot sees the human ... does the human see the robot?

The robot sees the human through visual pathways it may have been given and this depends on what upgraded version of robot this is.

The human also sees the robot otherwise how could he have made the robot to begin with?

Also the human sees God through the already given "visual pathways" God has provided for him specifically for this function.

Just like a human, God has given the human a soul to experience him with and only through that can he see as it were.

The human cannot give the robot a visual diode to help process it's visual reality and then the robot would now want to make use of it's power coil to achieve same function. Do you think that would work?

pacespot:
Your common sense is frozen that is why you don't know that human cells responsible for aging can be improved or reversed. Why is it that humans age differently? Some people look younger of the same age than others. I hope you have never been into an open heart surgery where a whole human heart is taking out of the body, while the cadaver is lying down there for minutes or even up to an hour, before the heart is reinstalled back and the person still lives a normal life.

No heart is taken out completely during an open heart surgery! There is always an artificial pump which is designed to mimic the function of the heart put in place during that so do not assume someone pressed PAUSE while the heart is taken out.

Plus the fact that cell ageing can be slowed down does not mean there will be no cell death. That is unstoppable

pacespot:
Your common sense is frozen that is why you don't know that human cells responsible for aging can be improved or reversed. Why is it that humans age differently? Some people look younger of the same age than others. I hope you have never been into an open heart surgery where a whole human heart is taking out of the body, while the cadaver is lying down there for minutes or even up to an hour, before the heart is reinstalled back and the person still lives a normal life.

No heart is taken out completely during an open heart surgery! There is always an artificial pump which is designed to mimic the function of the heart put in place during that so do not assume someone pressed PAUSE while the heart is taken out.

27Pushing30:
That a robot is pre programmed doesn’t mean it’ll fully solve the problem hence NEWER versions of the robot are made as new problems become visible?? Hence the Human who made the robot cannot claim to be all knowing or a future seer if he did not SEE all the problems in the future and preprogram THE SAME robot to solve every problem ... immediately

I updated my post so read the last parts.

You are actually speaking in my favour. Man is not a robot despite coming preprogrammed for certain functions. Man is actually a living, emotional being with sensory perception. A robot is not.

So only robots require such newer versions because they do not learn on the go and only give out what has been put in them.

God is above man and thus man is above robots

27Pushing30:
Lmaoo expected that retort. So much is fundamentally wrong with your thinking here though but lemme play your game.

The human solved the problem... but if the robot doesn’t solve the problem then the human is not ALL KNOWING and Will probably have to create a newer versions of the Robot till it solves the problem

You cannot win this bro.

The robot already came preprogrammed and equipped for that specific problem solving role and has no choice but to act out it's function.

The difference between God and man is that man only requires a mental upgrade through learning while a robot requires hardware upgrade through newer versions.

All in all both roles are similar and this is why Humans lead while others follow. We are the best of the rest thus newer versions in terms of hardware are so not needed

We are the highest grade of living hardware there is and we then can create non living hardware to assist us in our already preprogrammed assignments

fabienjoe:
Survival instinct. We need to understand, manipulate and subdue nature for our own survival.

Exactly and that was why God designed man for when he said "BE FRUITFUL, SUBDUE THE EARTH AND REPLENISH HER"

I am sure you saw SUBDUE somewhere there

pacespot:
Everything science is always impossible until some hardworking scientists made it possible, and some lazy religion worshippers keep ranting about their illusory God.

Science cannot function outside that which already exists otherwise it is no longer science.

Science is simply "harnessed nature" pointing to God with it's finger

27Pushing30:
Lol please tell us more

When a robot comes pre programmed to solve some existing problems and it does that efficiently who solved the problem? The robot or the human who created the robot?

27Pushing30:
But they figured out how to create devices you could use to get first hand news and be enlightened.

Your God didn’t do that

Actually he did.

wonder233:
Black man and God. My friend shut the fvck up! It is inquiries into seemingly impossible things that gave birth to many of the inventions you're lazily enjoying today. Hypocrite, lazy black man. All you people exist for is to get married and procreate all over the earth constituting nuisance to human kind

My friend shut the fvck up. Even the lowest of creatures come with an inquisitive nature which is why we are all blessed with senses which trigger thought and a quest to know.

The question which goes beyond all this is WHY MUST WE BE INQUISITIVE? WHY MUST WE WANT TO LEARN AND KNOW? TO WHAT END AND TO WHOSE GAIN AND HOW DID WE ACQUIRE THAT TRAIT IN ALL LIVING THINGS?

AUTOMATIC OR READY MADE?

turl:
Bros, no part of science accepts pseudo science abeg. Otherwise it would just be called science. Facts don't meddle with unsubstantiated claims.

Go back and look up the multiverse theory and read the scientific arguments for and against. Then talk to me

TheEnygma:
Hypothetically If the brain can be transplanted into a Biological or Mechanical body....Immortality can be achieved.

Hypothetically speaking a transplant is not all that is required to give life to a being through the brain

Ubdavis:
Which Adam?. There is no anthropological evidence pointing to the fact that such human existed

Same way there is none that points to the fact that such human never existed

naijaguy123456:
It’s very very possible. Who would have thought we will have driverless cars, apple phone etc now including airplanes .

And I suppose all you mentioned above come with human tissue and cells and actual living electrical impulses and neurons right?

The head of the Russian Academy of Sciences’s Pseudoscience Commission, Evgeny Alexandrov, described cryonics as “an exclusively commercial undertaking that does not have any scientific basis”, in comments to the Izvestia newspaper.

The parts in bold is why science is a mad undertaking most times

It is called Pseudoscience because it has no scientific basis or backing yet some aspects of science accept Pseudoscience as scientific.

Abeg na God sure pass

Ekemeze:
Even Peter denied HIS MASTER, JESUS.

I'd deny him too if i were Trump.

Good job Trump!

In the face of actual evidence to the contrary and in the face of this guy having names, dates and actual documents backing up his claims I think Trump is being beyond stupid by trying to deny he knows the guy

winningwinner:
Ask yourself how many of the SANs did Buhari buy to defend his Certificate?

Ask yourself how many SANS did Atiku buy just to lose?

Malcolm123:
you ar right ....Obama borrowed $150billion from IMF to give Iran so dat dey can build army to destroy america

You have time to respond to that Unrighteous liar

OP i knew this all along. I even opened a thread earlier on how blackmailed europe into lying against Iran. Germany revealed this

https://www.nairaland.com/5634963/iran-says-europeans-sold-out

Trump is a crooked soul

The text messages Between Hyde and Rudy Giuliani which are of interest and which has also caused Ukraine to open investigations of their own

The FBI visited the home and business of Connecticut congressional candidate Robert Hyde early Thursday just days after he became the latest figure embroiled in the Ukraine scandal, news reports said.

A senior law enforcement official confirmed to NBC News and CNN that investigators visited Hyde’s home in Weatogue and his landscaping business in Avon, which also serves as headquarters for his House campaign, in the wake of the released texts that suggested Hyde was monitoring former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch.

Authorities reportedly did not answer CNN’s questions about the candidate’s location and reasons they wanted to talk to him.

A spokesperson for the FBI field office in New Haven, Conn., declined to comment to NBC News.

Hyde’s messages were revealed in a chunk of evidence provided by Rudy Giuliani’s associate Lev Parnas to the House for the impeachment investigation. The congressional candidate aiming to unseat Rep. Jahana Hayes (D) had written “they will let me know when she is on the move” and detailed the ambassador’s locations and security levels.

The congressional candidate has told NBC News that he was drunk when he sent the message.

Parnas, who was indicted on campaign law violations in October, described Hyde in his Wednesday interview with Rachel Maddow as a “weird” character and said he doubted that he was actually tracking the ambassador.

"Well, I don't believe it's true," Parnas said. "I think he was either drunk or he was trying to make himself bigger than he was, so I didn't take it seriously."

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/478611-fbi-visits-congressional-candidate-robert-hydes-home-business

Mynd44, Lalasticlala

Blackking98:
This is politics, if it was a fellow Republican that wanted to impeach him it might have been going through. Imagine this scenario, you and your brother are quarrelling, then one day you are passing by and u see me beating your brother, won't u forget about the quarrel and pounce on me ? Thats the situation here, some Republicans don't like him , the common enemy here is Democrats so they will unite and face them head on. So relax, it's all about the November election

Before the senators sit for impeachment proceedings they will first take an Oath to uphold the constitution above self. Plus there will be the chief justice present to interpret the constitution and determine if and when Trump broke the constitution.

So far all the Republicans have said they will stick to that oath and will be impartial in their support as a party member except 2. They have been identified and noted.

This is not a kangaroo process but a process that will be with all the bells and whistles. It is about the democracy of the United states and the protection of her constitution and it is bigger than Trump, the republicans or the democrats combined.

The common enemy here now is Trump and if he did or did not break the constitution.

Righteousness89:
Obama deal was the most Terrible deal a World power could make..

How do u give your Sworn Enemies $150 billion dollars cash?

Seems Many of you here know nothing about the deals..
u just flip through blogs and comment

The so called $150b is Iranian money and not new money given to them by USA. This is why Fox news will always deceive people like you. Iran had money in US possession and Obama told them we would trade this with you for this nuclear pact. We will release a part of your money and you sign this deal and Iran agreed.

To me that is great diplomacy and a peaceful way of resolving issues. it was a win win but people like you who listen to Trump who lies 500 times a day and to Fox news a Republican media house would believe when they simply say "The dems gave Iran a plane load of money" and deliberately not telling you that the so called money actually belonged to iran to begin with.

Righteousness89:
Bro , you are the one who goofed!

Iran has nothing else but to submit to the Trump deal..

They have no choice!
It's either they return or the Country Collaspes!

The deal originally signed still stands and it was not iran who pulled out but Trump who did despite iran standing by the original terms. They have leverage

tonyimadu:
Actually the negotiation is now more in US hands more than ever. By killing the terrorist general Iran is scared, their leaders are scared now they know Trump is prepared to do anything to keep them in check

Wrong and this is why the iranian government has rejected the new deal offer on the basis of Lack of Trust and the inability of Trump to keep his words. In a nutshell Trump is a LIAR and this happens to be the truth

DexterousOne:
Look at this mumu comment...


1) what did you want Obama to do with the Crimes situation? Go to war with Russia?
He did what he could, which was sanctions, and the expulsion of Russia from G8

Your fool in chief is president
Has he liberated crimea?


2) he was president of the United States of America, Not Africa. He does not owe you dumb Africans $hit
You guys did not vote him
So what is your problem?

3) The Libya situation was all Sarkozy, hiding under the umbrella of NATO.
America did not deploy troops to Libya
The leaked Hilary mails exposes all these..

He was somewhat complicit because he would have at least reigned in on Killary
He regrets and take responsibility for that
.but Sarkozy experiment causes the mess in Libya


4) not allowing Jonathan procure weapons to fight Bono haram

Very interesting talk

5) Forcing Africans to accept gay marriage?

Another dumb comment...

Belgium and the Netherlands threatened to withhold financial aid to those countries in COMESA that refused to protect the lives of gay people
Nobody says you must legalize same sex marriage
All they are saying is that protect their right to life and don't kill them
How hard can that be?

But knowing how dumb AfricaAfricans are
The political leaders spinned the story

The ISIS crisis in the ME is all Saudi
Put the blame where it lies
For some reason
Regardless of who is president
They close their eyes to the excesses of Saudi Arabia

As we speak
Trump, mumu like him, is aiding Saudi commit genocide in Yemen, and conduct an illegal blockade on Qatar


President come and go
Saudi will still do what Saudi does
Trying to push out all moderates and shia from govt, and enthrone Sunni /Wahabist apologists

That's why Lebanon, Syria and Now Yemen have been marked

America will continue to supply them weapons regardless of who is president because mitart industrial complex must eat, and it is good business for the country


Many of you here just talk for talking sake

Very apt. Also do you know that Trump openly declared during an interview that the Saudi Government paid for US soldiers to be sent to them to protect them? He said Saudi had deposited $1b for US soldiers. he more or less has turned US soldiers to mercenaries (Soldiers for hire).

He also said South Korea paid him $500m for the same purpose in order to defend them against north korea. He said if the rich countries require protection they would pay him and he would order US military on their behalf to protect them

The guy is a mad man in the white house

Makes you wonder what Trump admin thinks a soldiers life is worth - 20 barrels of oil? 30? 100? Does it depend on rank maybe? Or, knowing Trumps closest advisers, maybe skin color changes the price? Do Caucasian soldiers bring in more barrels of oil than Hispanic? Disgusting!!!

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200113-trump-saudi-paid-1bn-to-increase-number-of-us-troops-in-region/#.XiAnSMsb57E.twitter

Video below


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ITLxLqppw

Here is Lev Parnas (Left) with Rudy Giuliani (Trumps lawyer) in glasses in the middle and Hyde (Trumps ally and core campaign donor on the right). This picture was taken in Trump hotel. I wonder how Trump can still lie about not knowing this guy

I saw this coming when Trump broke the deal originally signed and thus placing power of negotiation in the hands of Iran and no longer in US hands. The guy goofed

Iran's President Hassan Rouhani has dismissed UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson's call for a new "Trump deal" to replace the 2015 nuclear agreement.

Mr Johnson said he recognised that Mr Trump saw the accord as "flawed" and suggested he could renegotiate it.

Mr Rouhani warned that "all Trump has done is break promises".

He also criticised the UK, France and Germany for triggering the nuclear deal's dispute mechanism after Iran breached key commitments.

President Trump abandoned the nuclear deal in 2018 and reinstated US sanctions on Iran to try to force it to negotiate a new agreement that would place indefinite curbs on its nuclear programme and also halt its development of ballistic missiles.

After the Trump administration increased the pressure on Iran in May 2019, the country responded by gradually lifting all limits on its production of enriched uranium, which can be used to make reactor fuel but also nuclear weapons.

Iran announced that the final limit had been lifted earlier this month, days after top Iranian general Qasem Soleimani was killed in a US drone strike in Iraq. Iran's armed forces also fired ballistic missiles at two Iraqi bases housing US forces in retaliation.

The 2015 deal saw Iran, which insists that its nuclear programme is exclusively for peaceful purposes, agree to limit its sensitive activities and allow in International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors in return for the lifting of sanctions.

When Iran began lifting restrictions on uranium enrichment, it argued that the accord allowed it to "cease performing its commitments... in whole or in part" in the event of "significant non-performance" by other parties.

Announcing they had triggered the Dispute Recognition Mechanism on Tuesday, France, Germany and the UK warned that Iran's actions were "inconsistent with the provisions of the nuclear agreement" and had "increasingly severe and non-reversible proliferation implications".

Among the steps Iran has taken is to install more advanced uranium enrichment centrifuges
"We do this in good faith with the overarching objective of preserving the [deal] and in the sincere hope of finding a way forward to resolve the impasse through constructive diplomatic dialogue," they said.

The mechanism involves the dispute being referred to a Joint Commission that will have a minimum of 15 days to resolve the issue. If the complainants are still not satisfied, they can refer the issue to the UN Security Council, which could vote to reimpose any sanctions lifted under the deal.

In a televised speech on Wednesday, Iran's president criticised the European powers' decision and their failure to ensure his country enjoyed the economic benefits of the nuclear deal.

"The next step you need to take is to return to your commitments," he said.

"In recent days I... made it clear to two European leaders that what we have done is reversible for one, and that everything we do regarding the nuclear issue is under the supervision of the IAEA".

He added: "If you take the wrong step, it will be to your detriment. Choose the right path, which is to return to the [nuclear deal]."

Mr Rouhani also criticised the UK for talking about replacing the accord.

"I do not know what Mr Prime Minister in London is thinking," he said. "All Trump has done is break promises and violate laws and international rules."

Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, @BorisJohnson, stated, “We should replace the Iran deal with the Trump deal.” I agree!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 15, 2020
Report
End of Twitter post by @realDonaldTrump
Mr Johnson told the BBC on Tuesday that the "crucial thing" about the nuclear deal was that from the American perspective it was "flawed".

"If we're going to get rid of it, let's replace it and let's replace it with the Trump deal," he said. "President Trump is a great dealmaker, by his own account and many others. Let's work together to replace the [agreement] and get the Trump deal."

The Trump administration has said it is ready to negotiate with "no preconditions", but Iran has said negotiations are possible only if all US sanctions are lifted.

Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif told reporters in the Indian capital Delhi on Wednesday that European powers were allowing themselves to be "bullied" by the US. But he also asserted that the nuclear deal was "not dead"

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51118236