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Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Jeromejnr(m): 2:49pm On Jan 17, 2020
27Pushing30:

Lmaoo expected that retort. So much is fundamentally wrong with your thinking here though but lemme play your game.

The human solved the problem... but if the robot doesn’t solve the problem then the human is not ALL KNOWING and Will probably have to create a newer versions of the Robot till it solves the problem

Your answer does not make any lick of sense.
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by mejai(m): 2:49pm On Jan 17, 2020
IME1:
I served in Sokoto State many years ago and it was an awesome experience
Used an open air bathroom and toilet all through grin
Slept on floor, ok the mattress was that flat, all through lipsrsealed
Had little knowledge of the language or terrain
Experienced sand storm twice
Experienced terrible cold and heat, brokenness and hunger, alone and typhoid
But in all these when the time came to go, I packed my bags and bade my lovely city goodbye

No matter how much I loved my time there, I had to move on.
Even if I go there now it won't be the same because the good friends, employers, colleagues, churchmates and neighbours and yes henemies I shared that time and experience with are no longer there
It would be for me like a stranger in Moscow

At my age now, at times 2 the number now with a decade toppings, why will I want to still press to live longer than God wills? Who will be with me then? My great great great grandchildren abi? Their parents and grant parents and great grand parents? Abi lalasticlala or little Emmanuela

My grandfather would have been 98 this year but before he died he told me that he felt like there was no one for him to gist with because most of his age mates and contemporaries had passed. When he became ill, he asked that we let him go and not spend on unnecessary medical tourism. This was a man that had travelled far and wide and had great great grand children and everything he wanted.

So if a Russian is frozen in 2020 with all the things going on now, when he wakes up in 2222 or let me not exaggerate, 2099 or 2100, what would he want to do?

It's the same way I find it had to follow most contemporary songs, I still dance to my 70s, 80s, 90s jamz then by 2100 you would want me to dance to what now? talk about what now? Live with who now? Work which work?

I beg shift... make them go look for solution to, I mean permanent solutions to asthma, epilepsy, AIDS, cancer, hepatitis series, sickle cell anaemia, dementia, down syndrome and other things that are plaguing the NOW world please, I beg, please
QED!!!
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by 27Pushing30: 2:50pm On Jan 17, 2020
Jeromejnr:


Your answer does not make any lick of sense.

How old are you?
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by 27Pushing30: 2:51pm On Jan 17, 2020
1StopRudeness:


Come-on !!!!!!!!!
u just had to condescendingly floor blindersoff analogy just becos it fits right well into the God-man relationship which u will never agree with as an atheist ..:
He had u in the corner with a logical analogy/question.. u atheist are all about logic abii??
But u still had to say his thinking was fundamentally wrong just because u ddnt wanna agree with him..how is his thinking fundamentally wrong here??

The robot sees the human ... does the human see the robot?
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Jeromejnr(m): 2:51pm On Jan 17, 2020
Blindersoff:


You cannot win this bro.

The robot already came preprogrammed and equipped for that specific problem solving role and has no choice but to act out it's function.

The difference between God and man is that man only requires a mental upgrade through learning while a robot requires hardware upgrade through newer versions.

All in all both roles are similar and this is why Humans lead while others follow. We are the best of the rest thus newer versions in terms of hardware are so not needed

We are the highest grade of living hardware there is and we then can create non living hardware to assist us in our already preprogrammed assignments

Good reply.
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Jeromejnr(m): 2:51pm On Jan 17, 2020
27Pushing30:


How old are you?

That question also does not make any lick of sense in the argument at hand.

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Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Blindersoff: 2:53pm On Jan 17, 2020
pacespot:


Your common sense is frozen that is why you don't know that human cells responsible for aging can be improved or reversed. Why is it that humans age differently? Some people look younger of the same age than others. I hope you have never been into an open heart surgery where a whole human heart is taking out of the body, while the cadaver is lying down there for minutes or even up to an hour, before the heart is reinstalled back and the person still lives a normal life.

No heart is taken out completely during an open heart surgery! There is always an artificial pump which is designed to mimic the function of the heart put in place during that so do not assume someone pressed PAUSE while the heart is taken out.
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Blindersoff: 2:54pm On Jan 17, 2020
pacespot:


Your common sense is frozen that is why you don't know that human cells responsible for aging can be improved or reversed. Why is it that humans age differently? Some people look younger of the same age than others. I hope you have never been into an open heart surgery where a whole human heart is taking out of the body, while the cadaver is lying down there for minutes or even up to an hour, before the heart is reinstalled back and the person still lives a normal life.

No heart is taken out completely during an open heart surgery! There is always an artificial pump which is designed to mimic the function of the heart put in place during that so do not assume someone pressed PAUSE while the heart is taken out.

Plus the fact that cell ageing can be slowed down does not mean there will be no cell death. That is unstoppable
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Nobody: 2:56pm On Jan 17, 2020
pacespot:


Your common sense is frozen that is why you don't know that human cells responsible for aging can be improved or reversed.

What are u even saying?

human cells responsible for aging??

Which cells are responsible for aging??

What reversal are u talking about...??

The human body cells life span are on auto pilot, once the cells are used they die by the process of apoptosis( a programmed cell death)

... anything that antagonizes this apoptosis leads to unregulated cell division and multiplication and that’s cancer for you....

Please enlighten me, what do u mean by reverse, and what process is that??

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Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by 27Pushing30: 2:57pm On Jan 17, 2020
Blindersoff:


I updated my post so read the last parts.

You are actually speaking in my favour. Man is not a robot despite coming preprogrammed for certain functions. Man is actually a living, emotional being with sensory perception. A robot is not.

So only robots require such newer versions because they do not learn on the go and only give out what has been put in them.

God is above man and thus man is above robots
Back to my statement that your thinking here is fundamentally flawed !

You brought an analogy that makes no real application in this argument.

Good to know you’ve admitted that much sha.

Your bible says God created man from sand (like bro at this day in time you still believe this)

God created man that failed then first test. Cool
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by LegendHero(m): 2:57pm On Jan 17, 2020
Blindersoff:


No heart is taken out completely during an open heart surgery! There is always an artificial pump which is designed to mimic the function of the heart put in place during that so do not assume someone pressed PAUSE while the heart is taken out.

Then why does it matter? There is always something called reverse engineering. Human being were able to create a synthetic heart that functions for few days without the normal natural heart.

If they can be able to achieve that, then in the future, they can actually raise the dead back to life.

Also your argument about robot and human differences in your earlier post is flawed. Do you know about machine learning? Now robot are being created to train themselves without human interference.

That means a robot can actually learn like a human baby who only knows about knowledge through this daily impact with the environment and humanity.
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Qadaffi2idiamin: 2:57pm On Jan 17, 2020
Felixamos:
I can bet my life that no matter how science improves, it can never and would never bring back the dead.. There are things that can only be done by God and bringing back the dead is one of them.. Even Satan sef no fit..

There's a limit to everything and there's a limit science can never cross..

Don't be surprised when this useless Nigeria govt would come out tomorrow and say "the ministry of science would be investing in brain freeze soon"...

No...

Senate sets up committee on brain freezing and immortality headed by Alhaji umaru Tanko

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Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by 27Pushing30: 2:58pm On Jan 17, 2020
Jeromejnr:


That question also does not make any lick of sense in the argument at hand.

See junior go and call Jerome (your father) ... internet trolling is an indicator of acute depression.
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by yahoosurepass(m): 2:59pm On Jan 17, 2020
sanemind2:
This science people sef eh...l dey fear them

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Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by pacespot(m): 3:00pm On Jan 17, 2020
Blindersoff:


No heart is taken out completely during an open heart surgery! There is always an artificial pump which is designed to mimic the function of the heart put in place during that so do not assume someone pressed PAUSE while the heart is taken out.

Artificial pump/heart made by who? Thank goodness you admit there could be an artificial heart, if humans could duplicate second most vital organ in the body behind the brain, then we are close to the argument of immortality.
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Nobody: 3:00pm On Jan 17, 2020
27Pushing30:


The robot sees the human ... does the human see the robot?


How does this negate his idea or analogy or makes his thing fundamentally wrong??

Does it matter if the robot sees the human or vice versa for the robot to be able do what the human encoded or programmed in the robot
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Nobody: 3:00pm On Jan 17, 2020
Qadaffi2idiamin:
No...

Senate sets up committee on brain freezing and immortality headed by Alhaji umaru Tanko

Lol... U be really Nigerian.. See the way you get am well.. grin grin

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Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Blindersoff: 3:01pm On Jan 17, 2020
27Pushing30:


The robot sees the human ... does the human see the robot?


The robot sees the human through visual pathways it may have been given and this depends on what upgraded version of robot this is.

The human also sees the robot otherwise how could he have made the robot to begin with?

Also the human sees God through the already given "visual pathways" God has provided for him specifically for this function.

Just like a human, God has given the human a soul to experience him with and only through that can he see as it were.

The human cannot give the robot a visual diode to help process it's visual reality and then the robot would now want to make use of it's power coil to achieve same function. Do you think that would work?

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Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Coldie(m): 3:02pm On Jan 17, 2020
Oyibo way of scamming
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Nobody: 3:02pm On Jan 17, 2020
pacespot:


Your common sense is frozen that is why you don't know that human cells responsible for aging can be improved or reversed. Why is it that humans age differently? Some people look younger of the same age than others. I hope you have never been into an open heart surgery where a whole human heart is taking out of the body, while the cadaver is lying down there for minutes or even up to an hour, before the heart is reinstalled back and the person still lives a normal life.


Lol.. Chaii I for enlighten you oh with factual reasons but no worry believe wetein u want.. #Peace
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by femi4: 3:03pm On Jan 17, 2020
naijaguy123456:
It’s very very possible. Who would have thought we will have driverless cars, apple phone etc now including airplanes .
Those are non living ....they should try it with living things. Plants, animals etc

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Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Blindersoff: 3:03pm On Jan 17, 2020
27Pushing30:

Back to my statement that your thinking here is fundamentally flawed !

You brought an analogy that makes no real application in this argument.

Good to know you’ve admitted that much sha.

Your bible says God created man from sand (like bro at this day in time you still believe this)

God created man that failed then first test. Cool

Your words here are not applicable to the argument at hand thus make no sense.

Whether I believe man was made from the earth or not should not be your concern. Focus on the lecture at hand

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Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Jeromejnr(m): 3:04pm On Jan 17, 2020
27Pushing30:


See junior go and call Jerome (your father) ... internet trolling is an indicator of acute depression.


Lol..Cop out statement.

Sayonara.
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Jeromejnr(m): 3:05pm On Jan 17, 2020
Blindersoff:


Your words here are not applicable to the argument at hand thus make no sense.

Whether I believe man was made from the earth or not should not be your concern. Focus on the lecture at hand

That dude is all over the place.
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Blindersoff: 3:06pm On Jan 17, 2020
LegendHero:


Then why does it matter? There is always something called reverse engineering. Human being were able to create a synthetic heart that functions for few days without the normal natural heart.

If they can be able to achieve that, then in the future, they can actually raise the dead back to life.

Also your argument about robot and human differences in your earlier post is flawed. Do you know about machine learning? Now robot are being created to train themselves without human interference.

That means a robot can actually learn like a human baby who only knows about knowledge through this daily impact with the environment and humanity.

Like I said, a robot only gives what has already been put into it.

No robot can love, hate, lust, be happy, etc because it lacks the ability to do so. Thus learning is not within it's scope of ability. It only does what it is programmed to do.

Try not to be too confused with this
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Blindersoff: 3:07pm On Jan 17, 2020
pacespot:


Artificial pump/heart made by who? Thank goodness you admit there could be an artificial heart, if humans could duplicate second most vital organ in the body behind the brain, then we are close to the argument of immortality.

I guess the artificial heart is made from human tissue right?

You will be fine do not worry too much about it

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Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Itzurboi(m): 3:08pm On Jan 17, 2020
TheEnygma:
Hypothetically If the brain can be transplanted into a Biological or Mechanical body....Immortality can be achieved.
Maybe, Alita Battle Angel comes to mind
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Nobody: 3:09pm On Jan 17, 2020
LegendHero:


Nothing is impossible. Because it’s not done yet does not mean it can’t happen.

Science was able to remove the heart from a man completely and make him breathe with a synthetic heart for several days. If that can be done, then in the future, the dead might be eventually raised to life.

Don’t lose hope and don’t be blinded by religion.

Lol.. Know the difference between heart and breath.. I wont argue with you.. When you say heart transplant, was the heart transplanted to a dead body and the dead body became alive again? The heart pumps blood to the body but it needs life to pump the blood.. Another question, can a scientist give life to a dead heart? Don't be blinded by science.. Only God gives lives.

If you like transplant a whole human inside a dead body if God does not give that life, that dead body would remain dead...

#Its a privilege to know God man!!

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Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Nawtygrrlsecret(f): 3:16pm On Jan 17, 2020
Alcor life extension foundation has a lot of frozen brains and facilities put in plce to preserve them for centuries until.... Anything is possible!
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by kellystone87: 3:24pm On Jan 17, 2020
GEOANDSONS:
Keanu Reeves Replicas comes to mind.

Cryonics: Russian firm bla bla bla

Brain Freeze means a different thing

Meanwhile

How much are these chairs
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by Nobody: 3:32pm On Jan 17, 2020
Macsjebs:

Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-cryonics/brain-freeze-russian-firm-offers-path-to-immortality-for-a-fee-idUSKBN1ZD1FN

From the same society that gave us mmm and banking trojans, is this even newsworthy? anyways a fool and their money are soon parted grin
Re: Brain Freeze: Russian Firm Offers Path To Immortality For A Fee by 27Pushing30: 3:33pm On Jan 17, 2020
Blindersoff:


Your words here are not applicable to the argument at hand thus make no sense.

Whether I believe man was made from the earth or not should not be your concern. Focus on the lecture at hand

You’re the one who brought the analogy of Robots and humans

Think of an analogy that gives ANY credence to the existence of a God.

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