₦airaland Forum

UNDFTD:
You're a freaking M0R0N. What the 4uck is your argument? You're an IDIOT and deserve no response. Every dumb a$$ like you would come online simply because he could buy 200 Nira data. And then try to get involved in intellectual discourse that he knows quite well is way above his intellectual capacity. I keep asking you to show me where you made your points or argument but you keep coming back to the same bullsh*t.

Are U this jobless?

The speed at which you respond shows you are jobless.

Which data is this mofo talking about, the ones I dash ppl for free or?

Get a life jockey.

Your inability to prove your points , shows you are clown and naive.

BreconHills:
I completely agree. Nigerian children are now transforming their gender in the uk. I know at least one where a girl has completely transformed using drugs provided free by the state.

True.

The west is not turning non religious, rather they are turning religious to the doctrine and teachings of liberalism and satanism.

Most ppl do not know, they have be conditioned to see christainity and religeon as an enemy to free will and liberty, not knowing that they are subtely lead to satanism and self worship, which is also a religion.

Check this site out, lots of this stuffs are discussed there.


https://www.henrymakow.com/archives.html

quentin06:
E pain am.

E no pain me a bit.

I just laugh off your naivety.

iramure:
you that reason very well. How has religion affected your life positively?.

Very much.

Today I have a degree in engineering with several other certifications, thanks to the Western Education brought by Western missionaries.

I also own an run a successful business.

Can you prove that you and others would have been better off without, Western education and culture brought by Western religion?

UNDFTD:
You still do NOT get it huh? Let me say it again for the last time...I do NOT see any points or arguments that you made for me to refute other than you saying CRAP! I can NOT refute an argument or points that are not there!

joker.

Just say you have ran out of lies.

Blaze14k:
Bro stop trying to justify godfather.. we are lookin get out of this mess we find ourselves and u r trying to justify it. As for peter obi all the contract he awarded was completed and he never borrowed a dime nor owe anybody untill his tenure finished. Did u see any place they started the monorail project did hear the amount of money allocated to do the project. Lemme send u picture of the amount of money spent on blue line project for u to get a picture of fruad under tinubus watch.

Also read the post by guardian newspaper about this rail projects. I just dont understand how u guys allow urselfz to be deceived by apc

https://guardian.ng/news/nigerias-rail-costs-exceed-aus-estimates-by-over-100/

So true.

Scam project.
Funds have been channelled to their druglord.

Urchins would be masturbating over a scam rail line.

Winnin009:
You be clown o bro! Dem tell you say Tinubu introduce rapid transit; and you sef believe. Well, you’re an urchin. Not surprised.

Tinubu has no achievements to show for himself, as a result, his supporters drag in Fashola’s work into the mix and try to credit it to their drug lord.

Some will even say that Tinubu put him there. Is that a good thing to boast about?! That a single man decides who rules a state despite us living in a democracy?

Smh!

So true

You dey mind the foolish ppl?

We are complaining of bad leadership, yet ppl are clamouring for a man that epitomises godfatherism, corruption, buying of elective office using money.

quentin06:
I have no wish to interact with someone who is desperate to show off his ignorance.

Clown.

quentin06:
No , Silence is the best answer to a fool like you, you ve got nothing coherent to say. Talking with you is an insult to humanity.

Says a fool, who comes online to say rubbish and runs away when asked to defend or prove it.

Abeg no quote me again.

This is festive season.

quentin06:
I have no wish to interact with someone who is desperate to show off his ignorance.

Clown,

You are running away.

It's obvious you have boxed yourself into a corner, you cannot escape from.

baretalk:
Without religion we would have fared better than this, not everyone is religious as you claim, it's mainly the poor zombies like you going to pay offerings and tithes that are the religious zombies, your pastors, GO's don't pay tithe or offerings, fool. All countries in the world, there are people who controls society, Nigeria has a predominantly religious people, so of course religious people will own wealth and businesses, but not all Nigerians are religious as you claim.

Lame excuse.

DesignMaestro:
This is an insult! What sort of nonsense thread is this? Aren't you embarrassed to put this kind of topic on public forum?

Tinubu Vs Obi, what an embarrassment?!

How is it an embarrassment, is it worst than baulo baon baboon, jargons spoken by your lord,Tinubu

mu2sa2:
The law says he's innocent until proven guilty, even as he committed the offence in the presence of witnesses and he himself isn't denying culpability. Now, he will be charged to court and the lawyers will defend him vigorously. The case will go all the way from the High Court to the Court of Appeal and in about 8-10 years ends up in the Supreme Court. If you're thinking the culprit doesn't stand a chance of eventually getting an acquittal, there's no need to call you, I'm sorry, a mumu. He may even be admitted to bail while the trial lasts. Let's also not forget that even if convicted, if he can connect the dots getting a pardon in Nigeria isn't rocket science.

Only God knows your motive, behind this writeup.

baretalk:
This is nonsense you wrote here, what have religious people done fool, apart from divide the people and foolishly follow fake clerics and pastors who fleece their time and money. Stupid ignorant fool. Name what religious people have done but hypocrisy. All the governors, ministers, people working in civil service are religious people. We are the most religious people, but see Nigeria today, filled with criminals and hypocrites. Stupid fool.

You are beginning to change the goal post again.

Myself am not an overtly religious person.

But for one to say that the religeon, brought by the West, is holding Nigeria down and is equivalent to poverty, means the person is not intelligent and sound.

To answer your question, my argument is not in support of everyday church goers, my argument is that those who profess one faith or the other own over 90% of all the successful businesses in Nigeria, meaning your intail claim is false.

baretalk:
"Is it hidden, has any of them hidden their religious views?

Is an obvious fact religious ppl has done more for Nigeria, than clown wannable atheists like you have ever done.

If you have no evidence to prove otherwise, close your mouth and stop making mockering of yourself"

That's what you wrote fool, tell me what good religion or religious people have brought to this nation.

Am waiting dumb fool, is there anything meaningful you wrote there. So many dumb idiots forming intelligent

I didn't deviate, I was only laying emphasis but your block head lacks comprehension.

Religious people and religion are a big problem to Nigeria and Africa.

See fool they claim logic.

Where is the logic in your foolish statement, that religeon equals to poverty?

When 99% of the richest and most successful ppl in Nigeria claim to be religious, or at least identify with one religeon.

Wannable atheists failure.

No go drink hypo , e go wipe your misery commot

baretalk:
"Is it hidden, has any of them hidden their religious views?

Is an obvious fact religious ppl has done more for Nigeria, than clown wannable atheists like you have ever done.

If you have no evidence to prove otherwise, close your mouth and stop making mockering of yourself"

That's what you wrote fool, tell me what good religion or religious people have brought to this nation.

Am waiting dumb fool, is there anything meaningful you wrote there. So many dumb idiots forming intelligent

You keep claim smart, but it's obvious a dog has more sense and logic reasoning than you.

Why not show me proof that Nigerians that are religious are behind our failure,you could not ,which shows you are a big fool and failure using religion as his scapegoat.

Banhammy717:
Congratulations to His Excellency, President Bola Ahmed Tinubu, GCFR.

TINUBU'S CAMP
1. Almighty God
2. 17 Northern APC governors
3. 4 South West governors.
4. 2 South East governors.
5. G5 PDP governors.
6. Presidency
7. Masses.
8. Almighty God.


Ceteris Paribus

Keep fooling yourself.

Musauzor:
Endorsement that does not make any difference. Ortom will come here to tell me to vote for the BATstard or Wike will tell Rivers residents to vote him too after the APC government have subjected them to untold hardship of the highest order

You dey mind the fools?
After all the endorsement, Thiefnupoo would still loss.

God hand dey the matter.

baretalk:
Some religious people are good, but the religious institutions is based off a system of control and manipulation, man is not a religious being, we are rational, reasonable and spiritual, religion was forced into people by the colonials and Arabs, then by their parents, some of its morals are okay, but hypocrisy and deciet is too much. Religion makes a lot of Nigerians hate each other, bokoharam and Iswap have religious ideology, Christians too see others not like them as being on the wrong path, and religion makes Nigerians gullible, some smart men are ripping them off forming pastors and GO 's making them wait for blessings, instead of them going to invest those money and time. You don't need religion to be good and spiritual.

See how you deviated from the topic at hand to insults , becos I exposed your naivety and ignorance.

My joy is that those on this thread ,would have been,liberated from your lies and falsehood by my comments.

jaephoenix:
Many successful and rich people are atheists or agnostics. From Elon Musk to Bill Gates etc. No god shaped rubbish anywhere

Which bill Gates and Elon musk is atheists?

UNDFTD:
You're funny. I guess just saying "crap" is refuting an argument. I was expecting a well-thought-out and elucidated counterargument other than saying crap. You must do better than that!

Am asking you to refute my argument or points

jaephoenix:
King George the third and then William Wilberforce. Why the stopped slavery? That's a daft question. Its morally bad, they all knew it was bad but nobody had the guts and power to do anything. King George and Wilberforce could do much because they were king and politician, respectively.

Slavery were stopped by christains based on christains beliefs and teachings.


Morality outside religious grounds, becomes relative.

Example is the issue of same sex marriage, abortion, and many more controversial issues.

Humans lacks the capacity to understand our very nature or self , talkless of to form genuine morals.

baretalk:
Mumu, so they will announce it to you. You fools should stop placing all Nigerians in same zombie mentality level as you, speak for yourself, your family and tribe, you don't know about others.

Clown.

Is it hidden, has any of them hidden their religious views?

Is an obvious fact religious ppl has done more for Nigeria, than clown wannable atheists like you have ever done.

If you have no evidence to prove otherwise, close your mouth and stop making mockering of yourself.

quentin06:
Why is it paining you? They re irreligious BTW.
What has your religious nature done for society? Cretin!

Ahhh!!

You beginning to change goalpost.

Till you prove them as irreligious , I would not take clown like you serious.

CSTRR:
The north is backward.
No need deceiving ourselves.

Education is multi dimensional, I agree.

But you need Western education to be useful in this current world.

Even ancient civilisation like the Indians and the Chinese are now Masters in Western education.

100% correct

Geovanni412:
. Y'all are funny. She has done great by winning the Olympiad but don't confuse intelligence with supply and demand. The best she deserves is to be given government employment and sponsorship. Bbn naija winners ought to get more money than any Olympiad winner. Why? Because they generate more money. No one turns on their TV set to watch a mathematics Olympiad - it doesn't sell any tickets!!

True.

But government, private organisations and companies can sponsor it without regards to profit, as part of their social responsibility.

The fact is the world is going crazy.

UNDFTD:
Anything else? I guess that's all you can say!

You could prove or refute my argument

jaephoenix:
Like I predicted, you didn't even read my link. But you expect me to read yours?
Anyway, Magna Carta was used to commit crimes, and no, human rights didn’t get its origins from the Bible. It was started by Monsieur René Cassin, and he didn't involve the Bible. The Bible actually allowed slavery. Remember it told Israelites to kill babies and take captives as slaves. It even told slaves how to obey their masters. Nowhere did it castigate slavery

As usual.

Who stopped slavery and why ?

jaephoenix:
Morals didn’t come from religion. Early humans used collaborative foraging to develop a new kind of cooperative reasoning that led them to treat others as equally deserving partners—that is, not just with sympathy but also with a sense of fairness. You can read up more if you are so inclined, though I don't think you would.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-origins-of-human-morality/

Crap, it's obvious you don't read much.

Go and read about the history of human rights and you will find that Bible was the greatest inspiration.

Google about it magna carta

iramure:
Religion is a serback to Africa and Africans.. it's a calculated attempt to render us stupid. Religion is the evil affecting our develpoments in every facet of life. All Nigeria general overseers owning mega business centrrs need to be arrested and jaiked for life because they are the ones who are further promoting the scams in religion because of thier own selfish intrest. When you have the opportunity to travel to a saner environment, it is then you will realise that religion is a modern day slavery/,bondage. Africans walk into in foolishly and are made to believe they are in the right place.

Do You clowns even reason at all?

Did religeon stop Tony Elumelu from starting and owning UBA, did it stop Adenuga from owning Glo, Conoil, did it stop Jim Ovia from owning and starting Zenith bank or Dangote who is a Muslim?
I can go on and on, the evidence shows that the most successful ppl and wealth creators in Nigeria are all religious ppl, they are not atheists.

So if they are ppl who have failed Nigeria it is traditional religious ppl and atheists.

UNDFTD:
Is this question real or a joke? The reason why Nigerians become less religious while living abroad is very simple...they have seen the light to know that their religious indoctrination in Nigeria is NOTHING but hogwash. They have come to realize that religion in Nigeria is nothing but a way to impoverish the masses and hold them down while enriching their so-called man of God.

Crap.

BreconHills:
Firstly no country in the world can guarantee full employment and freedom from economic hardship. Many people turn their personal experiences into wisdom for the world.

Secondly, I think the post says more about our form of Christianity or religion than anything else. In our version faith is largrly a means of getting stuff rather than bringing God's will into the earth.

Finally, the poster may well be single or have no children yet. As his family grows he will understand the need for prayer and faith when the state starts moulding his children into its secular humanist model.

Then he will pray and fast.

So true


Most ppl are ingnorant, they think the west just woke up and became less religious.

War is been waged continuously on family values, and christains morals and norms in those countries, using Celebrities, sports,TV, entertainment, politics e.t.c.