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jonbellion:
Apart from that jackbizzle there are two creation accounts in the bible.
You would think that the existence of two contradictory creation stories would be a problem for believers in full biblical literalism and young-Earth creationists - it's practically the running joke of Biblical literalism
Obviously apologists exist to try to rationalize thier nonsense
We cant even see moonlight without sunlight
The moon isn't luminous
Plant life was before the sun
Earth stated four dats without sunlight
There was day and night without
sunlight
Vegetation in a three day old earth without sunlight
Please christians can Yahweh spell photosynthesis
Ooh wow
The Abrahamic God is a m*ron
If the sun should go out all the planets would fly off into outer space

The genesis account was not about God creating the entire Universe, what God did in Genesis was to restore a damaged Universe.

The Sun,Moon,Earth and other elements of the Universe where already in existence before the genesis recreation.


A look at Genesis will show you that there is no mention of the creation of the waters or the Heavens that where mentioned in those verses this is becos they where already in existence. this is also confirmed by other Bible verses like In Job38.

God is speaking to an afflicted man named Job
about many aspects of what
God did when He first created the earth and
the entire Universe. He says to Job: “Where
were you when I laid the foundations of the
earth?…Who laid the measures thereof?…
Whereupon are the foundations thereof
fastened? Or who laid the corner stone
thereof; when the morning stars sang
together, and all the sons of God shouted for
joy?” God speaks of making the clouds in
verse 9, setting the boundaries of the oceans
in verses 8-12, and and there is a reference to
polar icecaps in verses 29-30 where the “waters” of “the deep” are “frozen.” In verse 33, God asks Job if he knows about the “ordinances” (laws) of heaven? In other words, God asks Job if he knows about the laws of the Universe which govern its movements and its composition.

foladara777:
Stop trying to digress from the topic, your ignorance of the bible has been found out, you are just a blind defender of your beliefs... Just get a bible and read the first chapter or u don't have access to one??

When will Atheists show us how a fish got tired of swimming developed wings and changed its body shape and just became a bird or show us the Chemical equation or step by step breakdown of the Abiogenesis process that lead to life. or even pair all the billions of creatures in the Earth with their crossponding previous organisms or fossil that they where before they Evolued.some answer questions that Atheists sweep under the carpet.

felixomor:
The world was formless and dark, at first

Mumu, cant u simply ask what made it formless and dark? How did it come to that stage?

Mscheww, I shake my head for you.

Lol......What do you expect from someone who share the same lineage with Apes.In their own words.

foladara777:
Oh my... Founders of atheism?? I mean the whole article is utter crap but founders of atheism...
U know there is evidence, though not conclusive of evolution... But the creation story is just funny, like d fact that light was created before sun but the sun is the major source of light so where did the light come from

So which one is more of a joke? that God created the entire Universe or that a random thoughtless lifeless force lead to the existence of the entire Universe.

masseratti:
some people said the world was flat in the 15th century,they said a round earth contradict the word of God.

So you truly believe all animal on earth male and female could contain the,measurement of noah'ark in the bible?

was hiv virus existing in the time of bible?
what of ebola?
let me help you,if God created Adam and Eve,were they blacks,white,chinese?indians?
if they are one if these,how did the others came to be?thats evolution my dear.

I have answered this your kind of questions in another article before.

When Bible talks about kind it emcompasses a lot of organisms and not just a specific species or breed.

Secondly the Bible predicted about the outbreak of HIV, thousands of years ago.
Proverbs 5:1-11

Adam and Eve where not black or white. i think they where people of light complexion. After God scattered the people of the World with different languages at the Tower of Babel. people who had the same language and same family ties moved together to different parts of the World to settle down. there genetics began to play a more clear role.since people who settled in one region where from one family or group their collective Dominant traits was expressed more often across their generations(remember they married among themselves) coupled with effect of weather,Climate,migration. intermarriage later on.

So some group who had more negro traits or Dominant negro features been isolated from other group , inter married among themselves over hundreds to thousand of years with the help of  weather those features became established across their generations.apply this Same theory to the Whites and Asians.

I believe Adam and Eve where created by God with Diverse traits.with some. of this traits been recessive  while some where Dominant.

ScienceWatch:
I understand you unbelief. I still cant believe that a Boeing 707 exist.

You make very good points here, that is why I refer you to Hahn for further assistance. He will welcome you warmly.
I dont want to deceive you, so I rather refer you for your own convenience.

I also dont believe that a Boeing 707 exist. It is a fictional story because I cant make a Boeing 707. I cant make the engine. I cant make the computor contoller. I can believe that there are millions of people that also cant make a Boeing 707, thats why it cant exist.
Nothing exists if I cant make it myself. So I really understand your disbelief in the mighty Jesus Christ. Remember, speak to Hahn. He will enlighten you effectively.






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Lol..... I love your response.

otemdomino:
I bless you element of God the Universe.
I bless you nature, the body part of God.
You have within you all your children.
And you gave them allowance to do what they wish.

Your children are the gods who present themselves as God Almighty.
And they rule over the earth one after the other.

The days of Enki is past, so was the day of Enlil.
Moloch came and conquered, and his time expired also.

Anu came and ruled over many nations and he went away also.
Then lastly came Yahweh who was named Satan.
And he has deceived the world enough to the point whereby many are offended.

And through Faulkin his adopted son did he deceive the world.
Now The Star of Yahweh is getting dim. For Atum has come from making findings.
He has come to cast shadow of Yahweh, whose lies are taller than the tallest mountains. And his deceptions are more abundant than the seas.

And Atum had said, let the secrets of the messengers of Yahweh begin to be revealed by the POWER OF COINCIDENCE. And Atum has sent me Otem his adopted son into the world. And for the purpose of the future am I here.

Behold, Yahweh is cast into a spiritual cage. And he shall be there for a thousand years with Allah his partner in evil. And humanity shall know more peace in their minds.

And they shall feel God in themselves.
Declare, declare against the servants and prophets of Yahweh and it shall stand.
Declare that their secret sex affairs and embezzelements should be revealed. And the declarations shall take root.

Let they who womanize among the pastors of Yahweh be brought to limelight. Let the old potbellied ones who stage miracles be exposed.

For the hobby of Oyedepo is faking miracles. And the talent of TB Joshua is dramatising testimonies.
They are fake. Kumuyi and Adeboye. Suleiman and Muoka. The thieves whom we revere and call men of God.

O nature I beseech you, expose their secret and let them be known for whom they are, either in their lifetime or in death.
Let their cases be like that of Elijah Akinade, the pretender whose death exposed him greatly.

Reveal their hypocrisies O nature. For he who covers them up is now in chains by his brothers. Yahweh, the arrogant son of God Almighty is in bounds and according to the thummims, he shall be there for a thousand years.

You need help , quick one.

UIA04:
Try to read the bible verses in the article for clarity







Adam and Eve—Were They Real People?
TO MANY people, the Genesis account of Adam and Eve is merely a colorful story. “Mainstream Christians have long considered Genesis stories such as Adam and Eve to be allegories,” states a letter to the editor of Time. Many Catholic, Protestant, and Jewish scholars agree. They claim that much of Genesis simply does not agree with history or science.

What do you think? Do you believe that Adam and Eve were real people? Is there any evidence to indicate that they really lived? On the other hand, what are the implications of dismissing the Genesis account as mere myth?

The Genesis Account—Scientifically Credible?

First, let us review the key elements in the account of the creation of the first man. Regarding Adam, the Bible says: “Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul.” (Genesis 2:7) Is this statement scientifically credible?

The book Nanomedicine states that the human body is made up of 41 chemical elements. These basic elements—carbon, iron, oxygen, and others—are all present in the “dust” of the earth. Thus, as Genesis states, humans truly are formed “out of dust from the ground.”

How did those lifeless building blocks come together to form a living human? To illustrate the enormity of the challenge, consider the NASA space shuttle, one of the most complex machines ever devised. This technological marvel contains a staggering 2.5 million parts. It took teams of engineers years to design and put it together. Now consider the human body. It is made up of some 7 octillion atoms, 100 trillion cells, dozens of organs, and at least 9 major organ systems.* How did this biological machine of mind-boggling complexity and superb structure come to be? By blind chance or by intelligent design?

Moreover, what makes humans live? Where does the spark of life come from? Scientists confess that they do not know. In fact, they cannot even agree on an acceptable definition of life. To those who accept the idea of a Creator, the conclusion is obvious. The Source, of course, is God.*

What of the description in Genesis that Eve was fashioned from Adam’s rib? (Genesis 2:21-23) Before dismissing the account as myth or fantasy, consider the following facts: In January 2008, scientists in California, U.S.A., produced the world’s first mature cloned human embryos from adult skin cells. In fact, using similar techniques, scientists have cloned at least 20 animals. The most famous of these, Dolly the sheep, was cloned in 1996 from the mammary gland of an adult sheep.*

What will come of such experiments remains to be seen. But the point is this: If humans can use biological material from one organism to produce another one of its kind, could not the almighty Creator fashion a human from existing biological material of another human? Interestingly, surgeons routinely use the rib bone in reconstructive surgery because of its ability to regrow and replace itself.

The Bible’s Internal Evidence

Some people are surprised to learn that Adam and Eve are mentioned repeatedly throughout the Bible. What light do these references shed on the historicity of the Genesis account?

Consider, for example, the Jewish ancestral lists recorded in the Bible book of First Chronicles chapters 1 to 9 and in the Gospel of Luke chapter 3. These remarkably detailed genealogical records span 48 and 75 generations respectively. Luke traces the genealogy of Jesus Christ, while Chronicles records the royal and priestly ancestral lines for the nation of Israel. Both lists include the names of such well-known figures as Solomon, David, Jacob, Isaac, Abraham, Noah, and finally Adam. All the names in the two lists represent real people, and Adam was the original real person on each list.

In addition, again and again the Bible presents Adam and Eve as real human beings, not as mythical characters. Here are some examples:

• “[God] made out of one man every nation of men.”—ACTS 17:26.
• “Through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus . . . death ruled as king from Adam down to Moses.”—ROMANS 5:12, 14.
• “The first man Adam became a living soul.”—1 CORINTHIANS 15:45.
• “Adam was formed first, then Eve.”—1 TIMOTHY 2:13.
• “The seventh one in line from Adam, Enoch, prophesied also regarding [the wicked].”—JUDE 14.
More important, Jesus Christ, the most credible witness in the Bible, acknowledged the existence of Adam and Eve. When challenged on the subject of divorce, Jesus answered: “From the beginning of creation ‘[God] made them male and female. On this account a man will leave his father and mother, and the two will be one flesh’ . . . Therefore what God yoked together let no man put apart.” (Mark 10:6-9) Would Jesus use an allegory to establish a binding legal precedent? No! Jesus quoted Genesis as fact.

Summing up the Scriptural evidence, The New Bible Dictionary concludes: “The New Testament confirms the historicity of the account given in the early chapters of Genesis.”

The Domino Effect

Many sincere churchgoers think that belief in Adam and Eve is not essential to being a good Christian. On the surface, this might appear to be the case. But let us follow this line of reasoning and see where it would lead us.

Consider, for example, a Bible doctrine dear to the heart of most churchgoers—the ransom. According to this teaching, Jesus Christ gave his perfect human life as a ransom to save people from their sins. (Matthew 20:28; John 3:16) As we know, a ransom is a payment of a corresponding value to redeem or buy back something lost or forfeited. That is why the Bible describes Jesus as “a corresponding ransom.” (1 Timothy 2:6) Corresponding to what, we might ask? The Bible answers: “Just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive.” (1 Corinthians 15:22) The perfect life that Jesus sacrificed to redeem obedient mankind corresponds to the perfect life that Adam lost as a result of the original sin in Eden. (Romans 5:12) Clearly, if Adam did not exist, Christ’s ransom sacrifice would be rendered completely meaningless.

Rejecting or trivializing the Genesis account about Adam and Eve creates a domino effect that undermines nearly every major teaching in the Bible!* Such a way of thinking leads to a host of unanswered questions and a faith with nothing to stand on.—Hebrews 11:1.

Life—Meaningful or Futile?

Finally, we come to this fundamental question: Does the rejection of the Genesis account satisfy the human need for meaning and purpose in life? In the view of Richard Dawkins, a leading evolutionist and atheist, the universe has “no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference.” What an utterly bleak outlook, totally contrary to human nature!

In complete contrast, the Bible provides satisfying answers to life’s most pressing questions: Where do we come from? What is the purpose of life? Why is there so much evil and suffering in the world? Will wickedness ever end? And so on. In addition, faith in Christ’s ransom holds out the hope of everlasting life in Paradise conditions, like those in Eden, where God placed the first humans, Adam and Eve. (Psalm 37:29; Revelation 21:3-5) What a truly wonderful prospect!*

While the Adam and Eve account may not agree with the theory of evolution, it matches what is known to science. Moreover, it harmonizes fully with the rest of God’s inspired Word, the Bible, which provides satisfying meaning and purpose to life.

Excellent response and writeup. it is rare to see ladies with your level of Analytical skills.

Am impressed.

masseratti:
beautiful,then why did you conclude that am an athiest?point is God give us brain/knowledge above all other being,from creation we were naked now we wear clothes,science,evolution put in right places does not contradict the bible,there are alot of myths in the bible,but with an open mind we can understand it better,shalom.

Evolution is a scam and it contracdicts the word of God.

You can never reconcile the two.

masseratti:
holier than Pope,you can determine my faith for me,i believe there is God and also am not a slowpoke I make use of the,brain God gave me.
Am very sure you are one of those who rever their pastors more than God,you take everything he says hook line and sinker,

Btw do you know how the bible was written?

Who said the Pope is Holy?

I don't fellow any pastor or prophet what i believe is what is written in the Bible.
You can check my blog i have written a lot of articles against some of the beliefs held by christains and pastors that are contrary to God's word.

Ubenedictus:
Hehehe, u couldnt resist d temptation to praise urself abi? oya finish ur topic, when u get open mind to discuss u fit open thread 4 me.

The problem with you is that you refuse to accept the fact that you didn't know the truth and you are not willignly to learn.

Ubenedictus:
I know u wont agree to disagree, u just have to run away from the topic even though it means insulting me. oya face d topic and leave me alone.

Which topic? the one I and Splinz did justice to? why you and your comrades where busy cutting and chopping Bible verses to suit yourselves as you like.

Ubenedictus:
Happy sunday.

Keep decieving yourself. you will realise it when it is too late.

masseratti:
oga stop there,whats a fact?if you believe adam and eve story,you should believe romalus,zeus and oduduwa falling from the sky,
All ancient people thrives on myth,

Evolution is a fact and work of God,that you wont understand,at a point ancient people believed the world was flat,the sun goes around the earth,God gave us knowledge to understand how he works,the more we aquire knowledge the more we will keep on asking questions,that does not mean God does not exit,infact thats what makes him God,he is the only ominiscience and that my friend is the FACT.

You make me laugh .it is obvious you are an Atheist wannable.

It is simple either you accept the Bible and its veiws or you totally reject it there is no middle ground simple.

masseratti:
your opinion

Not my opinion it is a fact. Evolution theory contracdicts Bible facts about Human origin.

masseratti:
very funny,am a scientist and a theist.

God gave us brain not to be mumu but to use it,if atheist see God today,they will ask him where he came from,truth is,we can never know everything,the ones we know for now,lets develop on what is around us.

Your views contracdict the Bible.

masseratti:
book or link?wow,its a general knowledge.that all humans came from.Africa,if you dont know that,i cant.help.you,google is your friend.Jew

This your comment is laughable. i guess you are an Atheist. only Atheist believe the fantasy of Human Evolution.

Ubenedictus:
Proverbs 11:9 With his mouth the godless man would destroy
his neighbor, but by knowledge the righteous are delivered.
Proverbs
A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will perish.

Can you show me what is the false witness i did? or are you trying to shift the blame and truth from yourself to others?

masseratti:
its an known fact that caucasians came from Negriods all other race infact,its not the othet way round,Igbos has being in existence before the jews.

Lol.....I laugh, please send me the Book or link to this your claim.

Horlufemi:
Tell them o.

all I know it's many peoples have links to Abraham and there is no pure race

You mean Adam?

masseratti:
Which kain semi educated person be this?read you guys wont,but will surely be posting hogwash upandan

Do you have any proof to refute my argument?

MONITZ:
Kk, I will go thru ur links at a more convenient time. Anyway thanks for the links once again..

You are wellcome.

MONITZ:
How and would u mind making the point clear enough? I am waiting and all ears...

The point is that Syria crises as well as Ukraine where designed and used as a spring board to launch WW3.

Forget all you see on TV. even the Coldwar between US and Russia was partly staged. google about Albert Pike. morals and dogma

and click this link.

www.threeworldwars.com/intro.htm

Dongorgon5:
idiot in every team one or two passenger is allowed.
Matic and Cahill are the two passenger in our team.

And you are the conductor. Mr internet Coach.

GeniusDavid:
The Bellend that has been watching football before independence forgot Mikel pushed for his move.

You have not answered my question.

GeniusDavid:
You missed the fact that Conte was angry at Mikel going to the Olympics.

Lame excuse. I guess in his11seasons in CFC he was going to Olympics hence why he sat on the bench for over half of those years.

lordfalcao:
first I don't have problems with who ever Conte decides to start with...

Matic has not been impressive, if you people think matic has not been impressive what is holding conte from offloading him like he did to Mikel and others?.


Saying Chelsea could have not won the game if Matic played to finish doesn't rhyme. Matic has played to finish some games we have won this season.

The same Matic started and played all the games in our 13match winning run. has given 7assists this season created lots of chance for the team. people think you play well is only when you run around like Kante.mind you Matic did that in his first 2seasons under Mou.

GeniusDavid:
The team had zero percent creativity today. scrapped the win via set-pieces when we were supposed to finish up Stoke early in the game with their open defence. Matic has been far from impressive ever since 2014/2015 season. Even though they were different subs, You think we would have won if Matic finished the game with Cesc on the bench?

It is obvious you started to watch football yesterday.

lordfalcao:
I have sworn not to lecture pple who don't have brain to read football..

3 Elite coaches has used matic week in week out.. Your brain is not better than Thiers..

Your hate and opinion about Matic ends only on Nairaland. Outside here its useless.

It doesn't change him starting matches. Now kill yourself

Don't mind this Mikel supporters who will not allow Matic to be. they should go and check his stats this season on whoscored. clowns.

BaEnki:
My brain was not design sir, it's an adaptation, adaptation that depends on various variables including genetic make up, genetic mutation and environmental factors.

Joker.

irynterri:
what about the black Jews of Ethiopia?,historians actually suggest that the earlier Jews were dark BTW

Never ,it was just a myth.

MONITZ:
@ blue agent, u mean the same Russia that annexed Crimea ,invaded Georgia as well and America couldn't do shit.If it were to be a weak country the way u portray Russia, the U. S. a would ve long invaded her... Bt they know better not to try a thing like that because they know it would end in a fiasco.

How did Vietnam and the Korean War of the 1950s end up for America?
I know the U. S. a re good bt they re way overrated beyond their capacity....

Maybe u re still thinking Russia is Iraq, Libya or Serbia.. If America were to even attack China ,they would definitely sweat it out before managing to secure a victory, then how much more Russia? Quit watching Hollywood movies, they re not good bcoz they make u deluded.....

You are still missing the main point.