₦airaland Forum

Line up. I hope Tierney gets to do his pull outs/crosses and the forward players latch on it for good

airmark:
Why didn't God answer your prayer to pay the 10k debt?

Ojamilaraje!

Good thing Allen Onyeama is saying he's willing to defend himself in a US court

https://businessday.ng/news/article/onyema-denies-us-fraud-allegations-says-all-money-transferred-went-through-cbn/

seankafor:
Why people even launders money to another man's land even baffles me.

If you wan launder or clean money.. why not do it within the country at least?

At least e go serve as employment and revenue.

U obviously don't know much about Anti money laundering regulations and how it makes it very very difficult for anybody to launder money in Nigeria like u think.

Banks, finance houses, Insurance companies, and other financial institutions are obliged to report some financial transactions that reaches a particular threshold to their regulators who share these data with Efcc on request. Just pray make dem no dey Ur case.

I was in a gathering where the MD of a popular company was sharing his experience with Efcc. Once Ur matter dey table, they will pull out Ur financial history and u will be grilled till u concur

Below is a link to the anti-money laundering law

https://www.cbn.gov.ng/out/2014/fprd/aml%20act%202013.pdf

seankafor:
naija dey f up I swear.

Instead of to stand by her citizens side..they helping corrupt FBI indict and extradite her citizens.

When are we gonna hear about the frauds committed by american oil firms in naija?
When will America be called out on war crimes in syria,Afghan, Libya and middle east ?
That's the reason I like no nonsense states like Russia, Iran and NK.

AMERICA IS THE GREATEST HYPOCRITICAL STATE..


Now look at our own onyema air peace.. he is about to go down ..
Let's see how it goes thoor

I doubt these are just mere allegations. And I doubt if these are just international politics like u want to paint it. There's no right or wrong in international politics, but when u leave Ur country to another country and commit fraud knowingly or unknowingly, u are subject to the laws of that country o

Allen Onyema may be a philanthropist here and may have contributed to a noble cause here, but once u leave Ur country and u engage in activities that have dirt written all over them, there's nothing Naija can do to help him.

The best option open to him is to face the prosecutors and try to prove his innocence (which we all know he won't do). Other than this, I doubt if he will be able to enter USA without being arrested ó.

seankafor:
https://www.nairaland.com/5544616/ceo-airpeace-indicted-bank-fraud

Americans forming holier than thou bullshits

When will other countries starts indicting american assets?

Is it a coincidence that ever since Invictus was arrested FBI, Interpol and even EFCC have been making arrests, bursts and slamming indictment on 'Naija big boys '?

airmark:
This is one thing about Nigerian debtors, they are shameless and foolish .

Dozie GBESEdinho Da Silva

airmark:
It was reported to be a fake tweet.

I even thought he made the tweet carelessly as a a young teenager whose beloved was showed shege by an ultra- defensive mourinho tutored team ni

Dayo was right afterall......Playing few games as sub for England sef is more rewarding than playing 20 years for Naija winning bronze at AFCON.

Imagine Fashanu who had 2 caps for England still getting 5m monthly

https://www.nairaland.com/5543155/john-fashanu-earn-n5-million

If u see Dele playing Centre back make u know say e get why

U want to make an ex convict a party chairman, and u think people of integrity will vote the party in an election?

Baba u sef judge urself na. Shey sense dey that kind thinking?

Ibime:
Reputational risk far outweighs legal risk in this matter.

BabCock did the prudent thing. Whether right or wrong, it is prudent.

As you know, many of our schools sell themselves on moral/religious standards. There are many millionaires in Nigeria who made their wealth just by naming their school Christ's College etc. Any perception that such school does not uphold those moral standards is fatal to their business. I attended a Christian secondary which was the 2nd most successful private secondary school in PH, but collapsed in a couple of years once parents started to suspect the morals of the founder.

This is BabCock, a self acclaimed 7th day Adventist school, not American University of Nigeria which sells itself on quality of education only. Atiku would not have expelled the girl but BabCock certainly will.

Now tell me the legal precedence for the girls case against BabCock. What is the maximum that a Judge would fine BabCock if the girl took them to court? The girl would claim injury to her career which will be a small fine as.the Judge would consider that only 1 year of her career has been impeded. BabCock only need 10 student's school fees to pay whatever arises from the Legal risk. Judge cannot award more than that, meanwhile BabCock will lose hundreds of entrants if they don't show parents that they sanction students for such behaviour.

Meanwhile, that is worst case scenario as we both know that the girl cannot afford to take on BabCock lawyers who will tie her up in legal limbo for years.

While i agree Babcock may want to continue to paint a picture to the outside world that they mould morally upright individuals over there, they shouldn't in a bid to make that statement cause injury to the right of the concerned student.

The girl is in that school to get an academic qualification. She did not enroll in some theological school or some sort of school of divinity. How can the school claim their reputation was damaged by what a student chooses to do outside the school premises, without tying the school ID card to her neck nor wearing a regalia that identifies her with the school.

Well, I agree the judge would possibly award an not more than 10 students' fees to the lady should she institute an action against them, but saying the school lawyers would tie her in legal limbo for years may not really be true

A certain Felix guy was expelled by Convenant university in 2013 for possession of pornographic videos on his phone. He challenged the decision in court. Although he lost (which is beacuse he broker a law that was clearly stated in the school's handbook for students), the judgement was passed within months. He was expelled in november 2012 and a court judgement was pronounced in March 2013.

https://dailypost.ng/2013/03/27/pornography-case-covenant-university-was-right-to-expel-student-court

In that case the judge said: ”Children as adolescents must live as adolescents and as a youth, people must grow and we must allow them.”

https://www.nairaland.com/1210159/expelled-student-sues-covenant-university

If the school's handbook doesn't state it that what the girl had done attracts expulsion (like the convenant university's handbook dis), then she has a good case.


Ebun Adegoruwa also got a judgement at the appeal court that gave green light to expelled or rusticated students to seek action against their institutions and get prompt justice.

https://www.newsexpressngr.com/news/26157-Appeal-Court-gives-students-green-light-to-sue-school-authorities-over-unlawful-expulsion-or-rustication

Anyways I know the girl would probably go into hoeing full time and wouldn't even reason going to any court sef. Na one spanner loss her matter be

unearthed:
Sue the school na.

In a few years time, you'll read this post again and see where you got it wrong.

You've not said anything

AfroKnight:
Lol. It is not about hypocrisy. Don’t get too emotional. It is about the brand of the school.

I actually wish you’d be able to sue Babcock for breach of contract so we can all have a good laugh, you and the judge included.

If any entity is emotional in this case, it is the school. Expelling a student who you are yet to place Ur hand on the rules he broke in Ur handbook is emotional.

Does it even make sense? So u are saying if the video was tagged "Babcock graduates having sex......", the school will recall their certificates

The school brand is being dragged by bloggers and whoever leaked the video. The video is the girl's private property, not shot with Babcock's camera or on their premises. Na wa ó.

Una Babcock people, una mumu never do?

pocohantas:
First, I will like to say this is not a judgmental post. That said;




Thank you

While you may claim Babcock is trying to make their business afloat with the decision to expel, I must say their risk management technique is not well thought-out and will not serve it's purpose if the girl wants to press charges.

1. The school claims she flouted some rules. I believe the school has student's handbook which contains rules and codes that guide the conduct of students while they are undergraduates. Wouldn't it have made much sense if they quoted the page number, paragraph of the particular quote she flouted.

2. The school while trying to save face from tags created by bloggers and other social media platform handlers should know it has a contract with the student. A contract that involves the student abiding by all the rules of the school till the end of her last semester exams after which the school is expected to award her a degree provided she's passed the required number of courses.

3. Expelling the student without properly establishing her offense all in a bid to manage reputational risk will only lead to legal risk. A good risk manager will not manage a risk only for the management technique to trigger the operation of another risk.

4. The expulsion is synonymous to killing a coackroach by dropping a 40foot container on it. Suspending the student or rusticating her for a semester would've done the job. But then most of these private schools that punish students for not attending religious meetings ; I guess they are so used to taking these kind of decisions

AfroKnight:
The entity taking the fall is the university. This is a religious institution that has it’s name/reputation smeared in pórnography.

If you cannot understand the need for punitive measures and attendant disclaimers, then that’s alright.

She's a student of the institution. She has a contract with the institution which is for her to be awarded a degree after the completion of her studies provided she didn't break any stated rules of the institution.

If you can show me the institution's handbook (which is the official document that guides students' conduct) and it states it clearly or it can be inferred that a student having sex with a fellow student outside the school premises( as confirmed by the school authorities in their press release ) is prohibited; then maybe I will agree with the expulsion verdict.

Anything other than that is bullshiiit! The school has already dissociated itself from the video by staying clearly it was not done on premises in their press release.

The expulsion will not stand if the student wants to challenge it in court. But I'm sure if she does, hypocritical Nigerians will say she has no shame.

AfroKnight:
Because headline says Davido smoked and danced with so and so. Not Babcock student caught doing so and so.

It's indeed a laughable reason, sincerely. Like I control whatever tag a blogger wants to adopt on a news concerning me?

If a school management thinks this way, how will the students now think?

Davido as a student of the so-called morally upright school was always seen smoking, dancing in sexually suggestive manner in music videos and at a time his pictures with a particular lady on bed was leaked.

Why didn't the school claim reputational damage then?

Abi smoking, drinking carrying olosho blosters their image while only making a sex tape damages their reputation?

Shey we get sense for dis country laidis?

raumdeuter:
In the QC case, the school even has a right to expel the student because it is usually stated in Secondary school that you need to follow a certain dress code and certain accesories were outlawed. If this QC girl had the eyelash on Xmas holidays in her house or on weekend nothing concerns QC as long as she no bring the eyelash enter school

The moment she brought it to school she is liable

Sure.

The fact remains once the students' handbook does not prohibit sexual relationship amongst student outside the premises of the school nor can it be inferred from the students' handbook that they are liable for any written code, the school is surely wrong in this Babcock case.

obainojazz:
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I understand what that person is trying to do, talking about reputation all risk and all. He's dragging risk management into the matter wey no concern am.

Well the author of that quote u post if he's actually a risk person should know that while the school might claim they were trying to mitigate repataional risk, they've triggered legal risk. They will be facing law suit from the aggrieved expelled student.

Risk management is not done that way. You don't manage a risk only to trigger another risk.

Nothing concern reputational risk for the matter.

The school gaffe expelling the student out rightly. Making her lose a semester would've been enough.

Look at the Queens college student/parent issue. QC has acted muturedly by calling the child and parent to a meeting so they can be further reminded of the school rules and regulations and let them know the rules are not just there. They didn't just expel the girl

Everybody just getting emotional over this.

The first question you should ask is what is stated in the students' handbook? If the students' handbook does not forbid two students of the school making videos of themselves making love, sex or knacking( whatever you choose to call it), then expelling the student is wrong. The expelled student has a ground to seek redress in court.

Most Nigerians mistake morality for laws. They are two different things.

Let me quote a simple definition of the two terms I saw somewhere online:

morality is defined as beliefs pertaining to the differences between right and wrong or good and bad behavior. The rules of morality are not mandates or commands; they are beliefs. Laws, on the other hand, are the rules a country or community mandates its citizens follow in order to regulate society

Although in this case, the school might argue in court that the degree they issue at the end of the b.sc program is for those that are academically and morally qualified to receive it, but still their argument may not hold water. The student can argue having sex in a private space with her lover as an adult and recording it is not morally wrong. And since she didn't even leak the video she can't be denied a chance to earn her degree because of that.

Even the school will get weary from the back and forth to court sef. They will review their disciplinary committee recommendations and just rusticate her for a semester and everybody moves on. This is if the girl wants to fight dirty.

All those yarns about Babcock protecting their reputation and all na okpata. They only acted based on emotions. Just like all these schools that are expelling students because students wrote articles on social media criticizing the school authorities or government . Those decisions won't stand in a law court.

izzou:
Of course I read it, and I believe it's just damage control

It was students from the school that leaked that rubbish into the social media space. Even before this statement, people on twitter(obviously students) confirmed that it was their clinic. The video has been trending since morning.

But then it's their statement over mine.

It's Normal for the school to do damage control sha. But na d girl still no get sense.


Well, some of those private university students sef no too get sense like that. They brag about stupid things. 4ck wey normal students of government owned institutions wey dey leave off campus dey run steady, na em private university students brag when dem do am ocassionally.

Alaye Don start work be Dat o.

Wait! When did they sack poch and when did they sew this mourinho tracksuit with his initials on it gangan?

izzou:
And you think the school doesn't know what it's clinic or sick bay looks like?

Oga read the school statement below. Shey Babcock dey Abeokuta ni?

The school also confirmed it didn't happen on campus

airmark:


What will she sue for? When she must have confessed after the video came out, that she did it on campus.

She confirmed it was not in the school.

Girls can be mad at times.

Imagine leaving school to visit Ur expelled boyfriend who is in a rehab, having sexx with him and recording the video possibly for him to watch and jo soapy after u leave

I guess she will say she did it to make him happy so he won't be depressed.

No be everybody wey dey go school get sense ó. Some unlettered people that learnt trade sef get sense pass some people wey go school.

Airmark is right calling her fishbrain

iamoyindamola:
We
Are
In
Trouble...
St Tottenham will never happen again , our board members are not just ready

And mourinho na weyrey

He will just pack bus dey watch mr Good Ebening dey struggle to break his defence

Jodera:
what I meant was that, if only they improved on their success in finishing 3rd or 2nd, perhaps dey would have won a trophy. Levy was so contented with top4 and d money accrued from it...that's what I meant.
Mou changed the fortune of Chelsea, fine and good. He was a great coach then also, but we all know he was helped by Abramovich in assembling stars, something which poch wasn't afforded. Ranieri and klopp are someone whom I'll totally agree changed the fortune of clubs with trophy to boot.
Poch made Tottenham stock rose, nobody can dispute that. He made a lot of improvements in that club. Even tho they might not win a trophy, but he's set a strong foundation for the next gaffer to build on

U just don't want to gree. Those I mentioned, shey changing of fortune dem do na by mouth?

Mourinho with show u his medals, Ranieri will show u his own and the klopp u mentioned will sho his champions league medal as well.

You think in 10 years time spurs fans will give a shiiit about poch's time at bottleham? No! Why? Because he's one of their underachieving coaches

Mourinho confirmed spurs manager

Now North London derby go turn civil war considering Mourinho's history with arsenal and bottleham's wàhálà with us

Jodera:
well, you can't say he didn't change the fortune of Tottenham. They bottled- yes. Should they have one at least one cup- yes. But saying he didn't change their fortune or made dem one of the most feared in England is you undermining his achievement. Since his arrival, I think it's only his first season dey missed out on top 4, that's if they even missed it sef. He should have been given money to improve on the squad depth, but no, levy is like our stingy kroenke. Once they see money from top 4, all is well, they don't care.
Most of his signings also were shrewd signing and we all know they prioritize league top 4 over league cup.
I remember wen Rose threatened to leave spurs the season we won fa cup against Chelsea in final. Chelsea played s/f with them. And Rose said, they played Chelsea well, but want weakened him was when they need to introduce players from bench to help the game, Chelsea bench looks stronger and the players they where subbing in could change games, but wen he looked at theirs, he just gave up. No match winning player there.
Me, I won't write off Poch sha

I don't really understand you at all. In one breath you are saying they should've won a cup and in another breath you are saying he changed their fortune. How exactly?

If you are talking about changing a club's fortune, you have Mourinho's first stint at Chelsea as a clear example. Chelsea had not won the epl/premiership/division one cup(whatever they called it in the past) for 50 years. Mourinho came on board and turned them to champions. Ever since then, they've never looked back. Even when they suffer a slip a year or two, they set their house in order and win or two cups again here and there. That is why they have a champions league and we don't have any.

Leicester's fortune under Ranieri was also.changed, they won the league. Even when they faltered afterwards, they hard to let go the coaches and appoint other ones just to build on that success, which Roger's is doing presently.

You see, then reason I made that Wenger statement is; the board knows Wenger will either make top 4 or win us a domestic cup ( with the exception of his last season at the Emirates), still they sacked him. Now think about a poch that doesn't guarantee you any cup whatsoever, may not even make top 4 going by his recent run of results.....Why should the club gamble to sign him?

We know Mr. Good Ebening still had couple of Europa cup and French league and league cup to his name before gambling on him, but this poch me I no just support am at all.

Jodera:
If you look at his squad depth and how they consistently make top4, you'll know it's not easy to make top4 and carry additional trophy to it with such depth.
Not celebrating top4, but with the way their squad was over the years and their overachievement in d league, I feel a league cup or fa cup normally pass dem by cos of d lack of quality of their bench

If arsenal is a small club like Tottenham that sees making top 4 as a feat, then Arsene Wenger should be the man at our London Conley training centre preparing players for the Southampton match. Poch for all his so called tactical prowess cannot chang the fortune of Bottleham Fc, so why should arsenal management think he will take us higher that Good Ebening level?