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So People don even dey abandon their home in Buhari’s home state Katsina due to insecurity ?

Funnily if there’s an election tomorrow and Buhari miraculously finds his name on the ballot, these people will still vote him even in IDP camp. Smh 🤦‍♂️

https://www.instagram.com/p/C2K0GtoLf08/?igsh=Mm85ZDdnazJlZm8z

Itsrm:
The only thing people want to read at this time is either that the kidnappers have been killed or that they have been arrested and all victims freed.

They can do their emergency meeting behind closed doors and without the press and just give us results.

Guy no dey disguise. We don notice that when we call out Wike here, the next day Wike dey spring into action.

Abeg I need two plots of land for Abuja with C of O. Help me run am through wike na

afrodoc2:
That is where you are missing it. My scenario is definitely not happening under a democratic setting. Once you see “automatic jail sentence with no appeal” you should know the score.

That one sef dey.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Until we have an enlightened population, we are not going anywhere.

A more informed people reduces the chance to rig or manipulate.

When people tell you the North have the numbers, it is basically to prey on their illiteracy.

Despite how long we have accused them of being in the corridors of power, they still cannot match the South.[/color]

You are right. But this country looks as if we will never have an enlightened population in the right sense of it.

I was disappointed in a lot of people who are close friends and relatives for their utterances and the mentality they displayed during the last electioneering process. Like some things some people whom I perceived to be intelligent and well enlightened said and and attitude they displayed shocked me.

It now looked as if I never really knew people, I thought I knew.

afrodoc2:
Hahaha. I don’t think you remember my punishment plan.

It is automatic jail terms for all elected Nigerian officials, right from ward to national level. Not slap on the wrist sentences but decades in jail. Non-negotiable and no rights to litigation or appeal.
The judges too won’t be left out of the largesse. They too will jembe.

Who go dey pack dem put for jail ? No be elected officials or already corrupt government workers ?

afrodoc2:
They need to be put through that punishment plan I detailed sometime ago.

Crime and punishment should be the order of the day. Unforgiving punishment.

They need to be put through the pain that alters.

Those that would oversee the justice system are equally corrupt

izzou:
[color=royalblue]They know what to do!

But poverty is what keeps them in power. The poorer the people, the more you can rig and manipulate.
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That's true though, but for how long do we continue like this? And we've all agreed that military rule is usually worse than civilian rule.

So what do we do ? Pray? Be hopeful they will grow conscience some day?

afrodoc2:
Do you know the population of the country and the proportion of people who are struggling?

That ministry was dead from conception. Even if they don’t embezzle the funds, it won’t put a dent in the suffering on the streets.

Exactly! It's just an avenue for people to further embezzle scarce resources.

Anything that involves aggregating N5000, N10,000 to be shared to thousands or millions of people in this country is just another avenue for those in charge to steal.

At times it just seem as if our leaders cannot just think of what will genuinely alleviate the suffering of the people long term.

TrebleChamp:
So Tinubu truly approved ₦3bn to verify Buhari social register? How many Govt Schools or Hospital that ₦3bn go equip? He should have scrap that Ministry of Humanitarian Affairs when he became President, but the Tinubu i know will even create more ministries and Agency to compensate his faithfuls with appointments.

https://www.nairaland.com/7971505/tinubu-approved-n3bn-national-social

Since this BETTAgate started I've been saying it loud and clear: Let them scrap the damn humanitarian ministry! I know so many vulnerable people in this Lagos and I've not seen one single benefit from the many humanitarian schemes they put in place

DissTroy:
At the risk of veering away from a topical sociopolitical issue, Football's very own god, Leo Messi, won Fifa The Best last night. And we are all not going to act like greatness wasn't on display again. The sweet spot being he was also voted by:
- Real Madrid's Valverde and Modric, his archrivals in club football, and;
- Mbappe and Portugal's coach, his rivals in international football.

You know who has a closer link with these people? The other guy. Yet they voted Messi as the Best. Not like it needed proving.
You know why? Of course, you know why. It's the same reason the Earth stopped revolving for hours last night, why asteroids in outer space were frozen in motion, the universe stopped expanding for a few hours...

Last night, the universe kept vigil. I did too for most parts. And for the hours it lasted, a god descended from his throne to walk amongst mere mortals; humbling himself to revel in their praises and accept their awards.

Last night, Lionel Messi rekindled humanity's belief in the divine, again. All hail the King!

Messi is the god of football who came to this earth to bless we mortals with his majestic presence.

Theflint1:
Nigerian kidnappers no get the kin patience or motivation to dey stalk Nairaland sports section take find victims. Most Naija kidnappings na in-house matter, highway kidnap or good old stalking/bombing middle-class/upper middle-class areas like was done in Abuja. That said, I agree with the idea behind what you're saying, it's good to maintain a reasonable amount of safety online and it's not just because of fear of kidnap.

Exactly. Wetin concern kidnapper and stalking person nairaland account ? Why waste so much time and resources on such surveillance when they can just shoot their way into a highbrow or middle class estate, kidnap their victims, call their loved one's to arrange for ransom and they smile to the bank?

Bandits/Kidnappers/terrorists have attacked schools, private residences, religious centers and even military barracks without stalking anybody online to carry out their operations successfully.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]So the civilian security that is sitting at the door nko?

Why is he not collecting 200 naira from us before we enter?

Abi him dey collect 200k per month, or him dey buy rice from a cheaper seller?[/color]

I don’t follow .

U said Policemen stationed in banks don’t misbehave like others and I only pointed it out to u that they are actually well motivated. That’s why u see them caught in cross fire when robberies happen . They are motivated to give their best unlike those who get paid paltry salaries and will pull off their uniform once they hear robbery is happening in a neighborhood .

I’m actually not arguing anything with u.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Commercial banks have security men (civilians and policemen), which I am sure are not earning 100k a month

Yet, they do not harass you for bribes. We hardly hear of heists or bank robberies.

The reason is because they have an unpolluted structure in that workplace. Nobody is putting pressures on them to bring returns. They are accountable to their superiors and will definitely pay the price if they misbehave

If they cannot reboot the NPF, let them share that increment for all of us.[/color]

Lolz ….

Commercial banks have an insurance policy in place for their security personnel called Group Personal Accident( GPA ) . The insurance policy covers the policemen and provide compensation for them in the case of Permanent Disability , Temporary total Disability , medical expenses and death as a result of work related injury/accident .

If for example a policeman in a bank’s bullion van convoy dies in an accident or bank robbery ; his families will be paid certain sum ( which is usually in millions ) to the tune the bank insured him . If he suffers permanent or temporary disability , he will also be compensated in monetary terms by the insurer .

These are part of their motivation. This is why some policemen actually prefer to be seconded to banks asides the stipends banks arrange for them.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Na this kind paper dem dey take type 3 billion naira request?

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So far eagle and horse dey the top of the paper ; e don go be that

GloriousGbola:
was abba kyari suffering from poverty when he became enforcer of hushpuppi? was it meagre salary that made him try to cut deals with ndlea officers?

Abba Kyari is a normal corrupt middle class civil servant . Abba Kyari is not in the ranks of recruits we can call poor policemen .

He was commissioned as ASP. It’s just like u asking if the army major general that was court martialled for diverting operation funds that year when his orderlies absconded with the money he diverted ; if he was poor to have stolen money. We know high ranking personnel always embezzle funds in Nigeria .

We are talking of regular policemen and soldiers whose barracks look like pig pens .

I’ve my share of dealings with policemen to know they actually envy people who have normal jobs and earn considerably well.

GloriousGbola:
the root cause imho may not so much be poverty as it is a completely warped value system.
we were talking about betta edu today. was it poverty that made her steal?
what of diezani who was born with silver spoons sticking out of everywhere - father a director in shell, she also a director in shell

i am certain there are plenty of opportunities coming your way in the office to make a quick buck off some dodgy scheme where you simply hands off. do you not need the extra money? can it not also make a difference?

most of the messes i saw collegause at work get into - that is what it came back to - out of control greed. the it is never enough kind of greed. you have big salary, big kickbacks, big bonus but it is not enough. so you continue until you now create a big mess that no one can unlook.

We are talking of policemen here not politicians or elites who steal out of greed .

Some policemen don’t earn up to drivers , yet they have 3-5 children on their meagre salary . How do u expect them to survive ? Yet u hand them guns to safeguard people who earn so much more than they do….. what do u expect ?

Increase their salary first , give them reaonable allowances and then let’s come back to this discussion much later .

They’ve been neglected so much that they don’t care anymore and they decided to go make that salary themselves by using the guns u placed in their hands .

Itsrm:
Talking about quick fixes.

I remember they even dismissed some police officers who threatened to go on strike if they don't increase their salaries.


You pay a man 40k and give him a gun. And when he uses the gun to threaten people and extort them, you parade and dismiss him without addressing the real reason why he did it in the first place.

We always like to shy away from the root cause of a problem in this country . How do u expect an underpaid staff to not steal from the employer and customers ?

In this Lagos for example , there are policemen and soldiers who follow haulage trucks and pickups for a fee just so the drivers can drive through as many checkpoints as possible without dropping a dime or having the goods onboard inspected thoroughly . That might look like a legit hustle until u consider the possibility of such trucks smuggling firearms and contraband’s.

There are soldiers who offer protection for yahoo boys just to supplement their meagre salary .


In this Lagos if u want to drive past as many police checkpoints without having ur booth inspected u can do it with just few thousands of naira always handy to be tipped to the policemen . What if I have human head in my booth or a victim I kidnapped ? Those policemen don’t really care once I settle them.

All of these is due to poverty. The policeman buys the same loaf of bread I buy for N900 in the same marjet I buy it yet his salary is nothing to write home about . He will definitely make up for that low salary somewhere somehow

Itsrm:
Apart from them being overwhelmed, there's no motivation. If the government can come up with a law that gives $30,000 to family members of any law enforcement agent or military officer killed while in active service, people will be willing to lay their lives on the line.

Their renumeration must also be reviewed. Imagine soldiers earning 60k in Nigeria of today. What's stopping them from turning into informants of bandits and earning their annual salary in one day.

We are not ready in this country yet .

During ENDSARS when the youth came out to protest against police brutality , the youth while protesting against police brutality were reasonable enough to acknowledge the fact thaz police remuneration is too poor and it is one of the major factors why they resort to extorting citizens ( both young and old )

The youth decided to add review of police remuneration to their demands . Buhari’s government just paid lip service to the to agreeing police remuneration will be reviewed claiming it will take time to enagage all stakeholders involved .

The youth insisted that things be done about it urgently but t he police themselves , the government and some misguided citizens politicized everything and were more interested in getting youth off the street whom they believe were “constituting nuisance “ on the streets .

Till date nobody has come out to tell us “ see oh , police constable was earning 40k before o, now we have reviewed it to 80k as promised during the ENDSARS protest “. Yet we all know the police are underpaid and not motivated enough to put their lives on the line .

This country ehn, we will continue to reap fruits of some badly made decisions and our penchant for quick fix .

GloriousGbola:
it is not ownership of guns that makes the US a safe society. it is the fact that you have a working law enforcement system in place.

armed robbers were a law unto themselves. as are bandits . because more often than not, they have support from compromised members of security agencies

you can play the hero in the US because you know someone has called 911 and the police will get there. in nigeria, you are oyo. if you are lucky the police will get there 3 hours after the fact. then you have the other scenario - where you face off robbers and they take it personal and come back for you PERSONALLY.

the other problem with guns is that they cost money. so it will ultimately be your upper class or upper middle class that will have them. most of those people already have police on speed dial. and they will do the same thing with their guns that they do with police - oppress the hell out of people. you know that for reasons, people in thid world countries are obsesses with displays of power drunkeness.

The bold is the sad tale of the death of popular White House restaurant in Sabo Yaba ( opposite Ozone cinemas)

Robbers came to his house , robbed him of his cash and ATM cards. He went to report to the police at daybreak , the robbers came back in the night to kill him for having audacity to go report the robbery incident to the police .

https://www.nairaland.com/5647801/robbers-kill-aliu-sheu-white

BlueMann:
Omo I no understand...this Senegal game has just suddenly gone off air, na analysis from pundits and highlights of the game I dey see.

This is quite embarrassing.

E no make sense at all. I even thought it was Just DSTV fumbling, I checked score 8 0 8 and it was same.

daveP:
There's no day i don't wish Arsenal get their own Trippier/TAA/Porro. Like we should just have them, doing their primary duty, and then super-threats in other game changing metrics. Imagine a White bending freekick or getting Assists in Bellerin style.

Personally, i never rate Timber simply because i have this feeling that we may not see him play much. I hope i am wrong.


Olise is the January Hotcake o. Why aren't we interested too? Liverpool? Chelsea even Man U? Wow. Abi na Ollie Watkins we wan carry?

Arsenal no dey like drag EPL player with fellow top EPL teams; the only player we dragged with others and won in recent times is Declan Rice and we had to break the bank to sign him.

I doubt Arsenal will be willing to match the asking price for a player like Olise with other top EPL teams interested. Me I prefer we go to South Amercia continent and bring a quality attacker from either Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina or Colombia

iamoyindamola:
Go and watch all his matches
He's a suspect

From their matches I've watched thus far, he's not as weak defensively as Alexander Arnold. Maybe I exaggerated his defensive prowess in my initial post, but trust me he's not on dem Zinchenko level defesively.

Even yesterday he still closed down Rashford at some point in the game.

iamoyindamola:
I am talking of porro way rashford they bisect over and over

So because a player was dribbled in one match he automatically becomes a bad player? Good players too have their off days na.

daveP:
I'm afraid these guys will make top 5 sha. But definitely not top 3. They've closed up that backline with pacy, energetic and technical guys. I hope we land a player like that for our LB spot. That Pedro ehn.... make i no bash who i wan bash😂😂😂

Tottenham may make top 5 sha, They may likely displace Aston Villa if they don't mess themselves up again.

That Pedro Porro ehn, we no get any RB that gives a balance of the performance he gives. Tomiyasu is solid defensively but definitely doesn't have that set piece ability of Pedro Porro.

Timber too is good, but I've not seen him play enough for us to judge him fairly

iamoyindamola:
Udogie na confirm player
I don't know why he chose Italy over naija, Italy get good LB ahead of him(Dimarco, Spinazzola)
Porro be like arnold jare,
He no fit hold him line but he's good attacking wise but he's a defender
I don't enjoy defender that don't know their primary duty just like zinny

Udogie dey defend pass Zinchecko from what I've seen this season o. Udogie no dey gree even u beat him one-on-one. He's always coming back to disturb u. He dey always put that African power into marking too.

daveP:
This guy troubled Garnacho all through and played the entire field again. Like Tomiyasu. It is the consistency for me.

Both Tottenham's fullbacks are good ballers; Pedro Porro and Udogie.

The way Pedro Porro dey play freekicks and Cornerkicks enh, he looks like a more defensive minded Alexander-Arnold. Like he has all the attacking attributes of Alexander-Arnold and he's also good defensively.

Unlimited22:
She saw funds she'd never seen before and her appetite couldn't be restrained.

Now e don choke her for throat.

Shegzdave:
The Pen is truly mightier than the sword(Gun)

I saw some article where someone was discussing how she can wriggle her way out, can you just imagine that? This country is gone

Shebi one of them was even on AriseTv last week giving unsolicited legal advise on TV. I'm sure he's advertising his services to her team.

KingTom:
If gun steal 80,000 naira pen go steal 2,000,000,000 naira

There are so many whatsapp group that have been created in the state about her 'victimization', unsurprisingly nobody is saying she didn't steal, some say she stole but the gambaris also stole with her and she's the fall guy, others believe she hasn't stolen as much as those who went scot free before her. Me personally no fit talk as I'm public enemy no 1 "Your brother don comot food for our sister mouth" has become my good morning, good afternoon and good evening

Wahala! So they believe ur brother just commot food for their sister mouth without their sister being greedy? Dem no serious

afrodoc2:
You can’t account for a human being’s greed. Maybe this is why she was outed so quickly.

Funds wey people dey use straw to steal she go bring bowl to drain am.

Perhaps her age didn't help her too

afrodoc2:
All the money and property they listed is just about 15m US dollars o. Quite easily done in a year. No let Naira worthlessness deceive you.

Na wa o. But for that to happen, she must have embezzled almost all the money available to the ministry na without leaving anything at all. I no sure say she go get that kind mind or she would've lasted this long if she did