European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:01pm On Oct 13, 2023 |
larride: It's the same way Ijesha is easy for you and hard for me.   |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:33am On Oct 13, 2023 |
iamoyindamola: Okun is easy almost like normal yoruba Ah, maybe okun is different from okun o. We get one family friend that year, the man and woman have a large number of their nieces and nephews who come from village and stay with them from time to time. When those people start talking in their dialect u will struggle to make sense out of it in Yoruba. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:15am On Oct 13, 2023 |
larride: I wanted to learn Igbo when I was in Ebonyi, I was told their dialect is different from the mainstream igbo. They said I should go learn mainstream Igbo (whatever that means). Even Igbos that we were posted to Ebonyi struggle to understand those Ebonyi dialect.
People have no idea how multi lingual Nigeria is. When I was in primary school and they used to say there are over 250 ethnic groups and over 500 a rive languages in Nigeria I used to think it's an exaggeration. Now I know it might even be an underestimation. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:10am On Oct 13, 2023 |
larride: Ijesha Yoruba hard.
While I was serving in Ebonyi, the LG I was is called Ohaozara LG. The town I was posted to was called Uburu (David Umahi home town), the town beside it is called Okposi. Uburu and Okposi in the same local govt speak different dialect of Igbo language. Ijesha, Ekiti, Ìjẹ̀bú and Egba dialects are not really hard. I understand them perfectly well. It's those Ondo dialects and Okun people of Kogi's I consider very very hard |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:08am On Oct 13, 2023 |
popizaino: Yes ooo plenty pass wetin i write down. The numbers of dialect in Akoko ondo alone no be here. This is very true ! My former MD is from Ondo State ; Ilaje side. If he speaks his local dialect, u won't even understand anything at all. A former colleague too is from Ondo; Akoko side.... Her own dialect too is totally different and my MD does not understand it. Then we have another person who is from Ondo town, her own dialect too is different from those two aforementioned. All 3 are from the same Ondo State. Owo dialect is still there o. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:05am On Oct 13, 2023 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:30am On Oct 13, 2023 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]All they do here is bully everyone into thinking this nonsense makes sense.
An Anambra man will struggle to understand the native language of an Ngwa man, and both will struggle to understand an Izzi man, all in the same SE.
We are just setting up more barriers with all these.
Our indigenous cultures and languages must be upheld, but we need to settle for a universal one primarily. Na the truth be that[/color] I just see people who mouth such ideas as people who just found out a new past time to engage in. When u probe their idealism further u find out it will fall on its face yakata |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:26am On Oct 13, 2023 |
A001: Lols, everyone can't be under your slave masters, the English people. It is well with you. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:14am On Oct 13, 2023 |
kkins25: I agree with this.. For a country like Nigeria, having information in a unified language is better. Seperating them will create more divide.. Infact, the Whole of Africa should do same... Our division in the continent is too great.. and we're suffering it..
An American has access to virtually every corner of the world, but an African can't even do business with his neighboring country. I'm telling u! It's more like dividing uz more and more than we are already divided. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:09am On Oct 13, 2023 |
A001: This post addresses your question already.
In an area with multiple languages, each tribe adopts its native language as the primary mode of communication and learning. In such areas, they'll use the popular languages there as the secondary modes of communication (other popular native language, English, etc.).
Even in such areas, what you find is that the people there already speak more than one language. Then this is a complete waste of everybody's time.....What's the essence of learning in Ur native language only to communicate that knowledge to someone else in another secondary language? What has been acheived through that unnecessary stress? Tell me. There's nothing wrong with people learning and promoting the use of their indigenous Language but we need to be practical about adopting Indigenous Language as language of insutruction/learning will work in heterogenous society like ours. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:54am On Oct 13, 2023*. Modified: 9:12am On Oct 13, 2023 |
A001: Read the post you quoted again. The answer is stated there clearly: Each ethnic group uses its native language as the primary mode of communication and English as the secondary mode of communication.
These are simple issues really, and this is the standard way of doing this in many non-English-speaking countries around the world. You need to be explicit here ; what exactly do u mean by primary mode of communication and secondary mode of communication? The video I reacted to ; the speaker clearly pointed to a Chinese learning Medicine in Chinese, an Indian leading medicine in Hindu. You as well had been going on about learning STEM in one's language. So what happens if as a Mechanical Engineer I learnt about machines In Yoruba and You as a chemist learnt about Ur chemicals in TIV need to collaborate on a project? Do I need to first translate my works to English before u can understand them? If yes, then the whole agitation for indigenous Language in STEM is a complete waste of everybody's time. We are still talking about Nigeria here ó, we've not even talked about a Ga tribeman from Ghana collaborating with a Swahili speaking person from East Africa |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:48am On Oct 13, 2023*. Modified: 12:05pm On Oct 13, 2023 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]No sir, we cannot be practical.
We will rather use countries where they have 5 different languages as samples. [/color] That's the mistake most people make. They don't even know how ethnically diverse this country is. A friend of mine during NYSC told me that in his LGA alone in Plateau state they have as much as 13 different languages spoken by different tribes/ethnic group. He said the funny thing is they don't even understand each other's language so they have no choice but to learn Hausa to be able to communicate to their neighbors |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:43am On Oct 13, 2023 |
A001: These are real, practicable ideas which many educators and students adopted and have been using in other non-English-speaking countries, not lofty ideas like those in your religious texts.
For Nigeria or even Africa, there's no need to develop or adopt any new language as a lingua fraca for the continent.
Africans just need to develop their native languages and create or adopt local words for concepts and principles in philosophy and STEM so the continent can move with the times and stay relevant.
If not, African languages and cultures will die in the near future. A culture that doesn't move with the times will lose relavance and die sooner or later.
Each ethnic group or tribe should develop their own native language and adopt it as the primary mode of communication. And everyone uses English as a secondary mode of communication.
Simple. English language should only be a primary mode of communication for the people of England unless you want to go back to the colonial era.
The French, the Chinese, the Germans, the Polish, and many other progressive societies around the world use their native language as the primary mode of communication and English as secondary.
That's the reality of things. No one is discussing lofty ideas here, but real, practicable ideas. So in effect u are saying an Idoma man should learn Chemistry in Idoma, an Egun man should learn Mechanical Engineering in Egun and Ebira man should learn coding in Ebira language right? So what happens if they are to collaborate in a petrochemical company on the same project? How do they all consolidate their respective works on a singular project? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:10am On Oct 13, 2023 |
Amoto94: In Switzerland they have 3 cantons and the language of study in each Canton differs according to the ethnicity represented by the Canton, Canada has French and English speaking parts, so we can also replicate same here with conscious efforts and strategic planning. This did not answer my question. What language should a multi ethnic society like Nigeria adopt ? Will the language be created afresh by selected linguists or the peope who belong to Idoma, Egun, Eggon, Ikale, Ebira , Junkun tribes be forced to adopt either of the 3 major languages (Yoruba, Igbo & Hausa) In Nigeria as a language of instruction/learning? Let's be real here, let's talk about the practicality of these lofty ideas. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:52am On Oct 13, 2023 |
Amoto94: How so? In one breath he identified the problem with adopting an indigenous lingua Franca in most African countries and in the same breath he desires for Africans yo be able to study Medicine and other STEM related courses in indigenous languages . For example a complex country like Nigeria , what lingua Franca needs to be adopted that will allow a NUPE man , Idoma man , Anang man, Ilaje man, Kanuri man , etc to study medicine in their respective indigenous languages ? Before u say pidgin , please note that pidgin is not indigenous to anybody but a corrupt form of English ( the colonial master’s language ) |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:45am On Oct 13, 2023 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 8:06pm On Oct 12, 2023 |
larride: The truth is that you are very very ignorant. Especially how translation from one language to another is.
I pity those that engage you. U are pitying urself my brother  U are engaging him too na |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:34pm On Oct 12, 2023 |
raumdeuter: They also came as US Secretary of State Antony Blinken visited Israel, and hours after Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi, in a telephone call with his Syrian counterpart Bashar al-Assad, called on Arab and Islamic countries to cooperate in confronting Israel.
Anywhere you are stay safe tomorrow Make all these people stop these expensive jokes o. Shey person wey dey like Nigeria no go come enter plane because some extremists don call for jihad like this ? 🤦♂️ |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 3:34pm On Oct 12, 2023 |
raumdeuter: While its obvious that I don't like Obi
I will say Atiku has conducted himself as the real opposition and politician here
He lost an election he went to court, He wasn't rabble rousing all over the media, he kept quiet, looked for a weakness he can exploit he put his resources into Chicago findings, After results came out, he picked the part that looked like a weak spot and Called a press conference and told others to follow him
He has effectively established himself as the opposition leader with an issue that can be chased legally not just going online to insult Right now most of the Obidients are using Atikus findings, talking points and are looking like they are fighting Atikus war because Obi doesnt have much materials to make his claims
So all the gains of Obi is likely going to Atiku and this will upset Obi
What this shows is the difference between well organized political machineries and hurriedly assembled rookies
Which is why I always worry about Atiku candidacy and not so much about Obi Obi had the good fortune of the youths being predisposed to his candidacy . I actually feel if he had joined Labour Party like 2 years before the election and there was structure on ground he would’ve floored all other candidates . I don’t just fancy Atiku as the president of this country . That man has absolutely nothing to offer and he won’t even pretend like he does . |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 3:29pm On Oct 12, 2023 |
Olowunl01: Lets not major in minor, equitable is fixing the country, eradicating poverty in the land. If it would take heads of bodies being those that have directline to the president to effect the change needed; it doesnt matter where these people are from; if Tinubu chooses to spend his mandate and employ into very critical areas his trusted allies; Nigerians that voted for his should trust his judgement and then judge him on the outcome. This thing u are saying does not make sense in a multi-ethnic society . Why do u think a nonentity like Nnamdi Kanu was able to cohort a lot of educated Igbos into the whole IPOB thing ? It’s the feeling of being alienated despite being part of a system. It’s things like this that leads to people shouting marginalization na. For everything a Yoruba man can do, there are Hausa’s , Ijaws , Fulani’s , Igbo’s etc who can do same. That’s how u keep majority happy in a multi-ethnic society like Nigeria . |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 3:20pm On Oct 12, 2023 |
Olowunl01: Check again, He is folashade Tinubu-Ojo husband. Lolz They are not in any way related . Do u know how old Folashade is and how old Tunji-Ojo is ? Except she marry her younger brother |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 3:19pm On Oct 12, 2023 |
larride: I'm hearing NFIU will be Kasimu Olanrewaju sef.  If Tinubu commot there lasan , Yoruba no go see even NSCDC Commandant post  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:52pm On Oct 12, 2023 |
A40: Northerners do more than this when in power. Have people forgotten already or what? Buhari own no reach like this na . |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:51pm On Oct 12, 2023 |
Olowunl01: Chairman what do you people want sef? Buhari did his own - Let Tinubu do his own so far they perform should be the koko?
Tunji Ojo is inexperienced as per Naija parlance to be Minister of Interior; his strongest CV is being Tinubu son inlaw, however in his less than 3months stint he has shown potential to out perform Aregbe who came to same position with 8yrs commisioner experience + 8 Governor experience...
So let Tinubu appoint who ever he wants, if they mess up is on him, and I would blame him squarely unlike those who would rather excuse Buhari for the mess ups of his appointees. Tunji Ojo is not Tinubu’s in-law o It’s not about what I want , it’s about doing what is right/equitable . |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:36pm On Oct 12, 2023 |
DissTroy: You think this is funny?
You do realize of all professions, asking that Peter Obi considers a career in proselytism is actually a completely because he's preaching peace?
Now ask yourself who would say the same about Tinubu given his utterances of hate, incitement, and being a magnet for the worst characters Nigeria has on parade?
Thanks for confirming one more reason millions of logical Nigerians got attracted to Obi in the first place. Funny enough , I agree with most of what Reuben Abati said in that video . The press conference held by Peter Obi was unnecessary and ill-advised . What did he actually hope to achieve with that interview ? Does he think Tinubu will resign simply because he called him out ? The only option he has like Abati rightly pointed is the Supreme Court which Atiku called him and Kwankwanso to join him and his party chose to abstain. I don’t support taunting Peter Obi for preaching peace , but I also don’t think that press conference was necessary at all. Atiku has spent millions of dollars in an American court to unravel the mystery behind Tinubu’s sojourn in America , I don’t think it is in Peter Obi’s place to be using the findings for an unnecessary press conference |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:27pm On Oct 12, 2023 |
larride: Na why Northerners no dey complain right now.
Remember our discussion of this topic, I told you whoever get there will appoint his people into top position? Yeah I remember , but his own person no supposed be totally Yoruba people now. I cheered when he appointed Yoruba as COAS, IGP and Customs DG; but now that EFCC, CBN governor , ajd other critical positions he still dey nominate Yorubas omo ….. I no know wetin to talk o. Even some Yorubas don dey complain say na Lagos people he pack full there . |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:24pm On Oct 12, 2023 |
raumdeuter: Shey Buhari never do am already? Egbon, despite me being a strong critic of Buhari I must confess Tinubu own pass Buhari own o. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:14pm On Oct 12, 2023 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]It is disturbing.
A Southern turn, but na only SW full am.
I really pity us when the North takes over.[/color] It will later haunt us when a northerner succeeds Tinubu . |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:17pm On Oct 12, 2023 |
Melvyn11: You are basically saying if I own a company and I want to employ someone to run the operations it should be a Lebanese/Indian because they are effective in what they do. That's what am getting from your post. The blame is not on the company but our greedy leaders. Most of our own Nigerians are also board of directors of this so called Chinese/Lebanese companies. Our own people are involved. This is not always true . There are several of those foreign owned companies that don’t have Nigerians on their board . The few ones that have Nigeria on their board , some of those Nigerians do not have a say in key decision making line using the staff for slaving jobs |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:37am On Oct 12, 2023 |
izzou: [color=royalblue]It happened last year, i think. Addo road, Ajah
People move about with so much anger these days. I don't know if it is the country or that is their default mode.
Imagine if one of them had a gun. [/color] They could’ve killed themselves if they had any dangerous weapon in their possession. Sometimes na because neither of them get insurance na why dem go wan teach each other lesson having made up their mind to repair their own cars themselves. One man don bash me before on a Sunday morning in front of his church like this . The really provoked me cos I was right behind him seeing that he wants to make a turn ; I gave him enough space to do whatever balablue he wanted to do, yet he found a way to hit me despite honking loudly behind him o. I just came down, checked my car and completely ignored him mouthing incoherent at first . He later apologized when he observed I didn’t engage him in any shouting contest/argument . I drove off , contacted my insurer the next day and had my car fixed within the week. |