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raumdeuter:
How old Tee Mac say Tinubu be? 86 last year so he is 87yrs now

Which will mean Tinubu is older than MKO Buhari OBJ Babangida Bisi Akande


So do you believe Tee Macs claim.that Tinubu is older than those people? If you don't
I will now ask that Is Tee Mac suffering from Dementia or he just hates his cousin’s husband that he will make such claims about him?

Read through my replies to Afrodoc

Ibime:
You can't self help against an enemy that comes and disappears while you are a sitting duck in a static location. Security solution is beyond any Nigerian Governor or the local community.

All this one U are saying is what the government would have u believe ; if u discuss with people from the affected areas u will be surprised they know and are very sure who their enemies are .The only thing stopping them atimes from resorting to self help is the fear of security forces coming after them when shiiit hits the fan.

This was the same way the Fulani militia were attacking villages and towns in the oke-Ogun areas part of Oyo state like Igangan and co. The people were always reporting the attrocities and waiting like sitting ducks without the authorities coming to their rescue . I watched a video of a man who had his two hands amputated because he was working on his farm when the Fulani militia came calling . The man narrated how they rid him of his arms.

The moment sunday Igboho armed the hunters/vigilantes , they went overboard in trying to protect their people and we all saw how the government came for him with full force.

And finally a government that is interested in security solution will not take the kind of position Federal government is taking on this Fulani herdsmen issues. They won’t be talking about grazing routes of 1960’s as a solution to problems in 2023

PapalsBull:
Some pages back, a certain northern defender said the herdsmen have done their homework on ranches and it doesn't suit them so they prefer the outdated practice of grazing.
Benue people according to the herdsmen are farming on their land (grazing route) so how dare benue people do so even when government came out to say these are grazing route.

Hmmmm…. I must have missed the discussion back then.

But let’s say it’s the grazing route of the herdsmen for argument sake , Shey na to kill the people “trespassing” come be solution ?

It’s just absurd that people get killed in their dozens every fortnight and then the killers disappear into thin air while the constituted authorities do next to nothing to bring the perpetrators to justice . The same thing is happening in Kaduna and I saw a video of the president of the Southern kaduna association lamenting about the governor paying lip service to finding a lasting solution . He says the governor just sends condolence messages and then another series of attacks follows .

How people in those parts of the country have not resorted to self-help is still a wonder of the world o

Only God knows how the newly elected Reverend father governor in Benue state will do concerning these Fulani herdsmen attacks that has been a frequent occurrence in the state .

Imagine the herdsmen driving people from their ancestral homes and as if that was not enough, they still go after them in IDP camps where they have temporary shelter .

What exactly do these Fulani herdsmen want ? What do they seek to achieve with this gruesome murders ? This appear to be beyond the age long farmers-herders dispute .

https://www.nairaland.com/7663096/watched-horror-slaughtered-daughter-like

afrodoc2:
I mean before the election. Some of that age, name, drug lord energy should have been applied to the health issue. Get some medical reports out there and stuff like that.

Just my thinking that there was more potential ammo along that line.

Even if the ammo was readily available , it won’t change a thing . People’s bias Will always have a a say in who eventually rules them .

afrodoc2:
If his current DOB is not different from the one he submitted in 1999 and in 1992 then i don't think there is any sinister plot from his camp to be younger than he really is. It just might be that he does not know his real DOB which was not unusual in those days especially with people from humble homes.

I am in total agreement about the health issue. I feel his opponents would have gotten more ammunition if they had focused more of their investigative and hacking resources in that direction.

I don’t see the need to hack anything . ill health associated with old age has a way of catching up with people .Nature can’t be cheated

afrodoc2:
Do you think Tinubu is 86yrs old like Tee Mac claimed?

The main issue IMO is his health not his age. Yar’Adua was much younger but still sick. OBJ and Soyinka are ancient but still appear to be well.

I don’t believe Tinubu is as old as 86 years old ; I believe Tee Mac was exaggerating when he said 86. He probably thought Tinubu was way older than him when his cousin Remi was dating Bola.

The thing is if my cousin sister is dating someone older than me, I will know but I may not know exactly how much older than me he will be (since he won’t be showing me his birth certificate to confirm his age ).

I also do not see the need for any rancour about his age . I’ve always been more critical about his health status . His age didn’t affect his performance as a governor ; it’s his I’ll health in recent times that is of more concern . Of a truth , I’ve seen 70 years old men with ill health worse than Tinubu .

I think people are only milking the age angle because of how most things about his background before traveling to the USA has been shrouded in secrecy

raumdeuter:
Amoda Ogunlere at 95yrs old with Remi Mamora and Koro

Tinubu is most likely older than 71 years ; maybe not as old as people are rumoring but he most likely has at least 5 years age tax .

Tee Mac who is Remi’s cousin says Tinubu na elegbon to am that year . How can Tee Mac now be older than Tinubu in present day ?

Is Tee Mac suffering from Dementia or he just hates his cousin’s husband that he will make such claims about him ?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]E don move from 200 to 300 naa

The last time, i was begging the guy for 200

Una dey lucky for una side oh[/color]

I don’t prove things like that . Barbing , Pumping of tyre, etc . I know they have association that sets a price floor they can’t charge lower than, so I just pay them without any argument/haggling

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The guy just saw an opportunity and wanted to cash out naa. No harm in that

It's not like he wanted to venture into yams[/color]

The thing is he thinks he’s wiser than thousands of people who ply that same route regularly and dem no charter J5 bus to carry tubers of yam to Lagos .

He thinks he’s ogbon sodiki

Just like u said up there , those market associations are like cultists . If u carry grinding machine and put for front of ur house anywhere on the mainland in Lagos ; u will surely get a visit from pepper grinders association within a matter of weeks . If u choose not to join the association , they will ground ur grinding business 😂

GloriousGbola:
The guy jumped into a business he did not understand. And he had not lined up a customer, which makes it worse.

This story can apply to any endeavour. It is actually why fledgling businesses fail.

You need to have actually worked in the business or have a friend that does.

Exactly . Nigerians have the habit of jumping into businesses they know little or nothing about and end up burning their fingers .

I’ve seen people retire from paid employment , venture into businesses like fish farming and end up burning their fingers . They just look at the prospect of profit and start pumping into businesses they have no idea about.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Obi is just like Rio Ferdinand, a pundit.

Chelsea lose match, fan dey vex say Rio dey give advice. E leave Lampard and Potter wey dey responsible, begin vex for Rio[/color]

Why Ferdinand dey chook mouth for Chelsea matter ? Abeg let Ferdinand dey give advice/run punditry on United matches alone

izzou:
[color=royalblue]It is the same tactic that would be used

More people have died from terrorism from 2019 to 2023, but put Femi Adeshina on the spot, and he will tell you GEJ did worse.

We have fallen off the ladder in the Corruption index. Inflation wan kill people, but the excuse is always GEJ

That is exactly what will happen in the next 4 years. When Tinubu is underperforming, they already have a scapegoat in the person of Obi.

Just watch.[/color]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

How can they blame someone that lost an election ? 🤷🏼‍♂️

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Lol

E say na insult. It would be an insult if you were actually rich.

Whether we like it or not, the next 4 years of our lives will have nothing to do with Obi.

From your security, economy, healthcare, Obi has no hand in it.

Instead of focusing and scrutinising BAT on what he has promised, I am sure he will spend time comparing stats, just to pepper Obi[/color]

I can understand if someone like Bashir Ahmed who gets paid over a million naira by the presidency monthly just to tweet and release statements online pushes such narrative ( I actually saw a tweet from him yesterday talking about the so called “insult “ )….. But what I will never understand is why a normal citizen be lying to himself as if what was said by Obi is not true .

It is well sha

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Someone wants to be president of Nigeria, but you don't want him to talk about every part of Nigeria.

Very funny people

If Obi says he will rescue the SE from poverty, you will still come back and tell us the bias there.
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It’s just a case of if u don’t like a person , u will always find fault in his actions and even inactions. If he speaks wahala, if he doesn’t na the same thing .

The funny thing is the people Obi was campaigning to who are northerners themselves didn’t have a problem with what he said to them

Segedinho:
The funny thing about the issue was/is he loved Obi and wanted him to win maybe due to Obi's plan till he claimed to read a thread that was shared by raumdeute.r ....


You see why human are created to be feared.?

Fear north not

And u believe this ? 🤣🤣🤣

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The funniest part of this dishonest talk is that Obi is not even the president. He is not responsible to remove or reduce poverty anywhere.

As at 2020, 87% of our Poverty rate was from the North. This is 5 years into the tenure of a Northern president. You are not pissed that Buhari took you from a bad level to a worse one.

I am happy Obi did not apologise. Keep trolling him with the SE, as if he was responsible for it at any point

After 4 years, we would measure our poverty progress by what Tinubu did, and not Obi

Till then, Obi said he will rescue Nigeria from Poverty, especially the North[/color]

It’s like u don’t understand ….. the guy obvioulsy wants the north “pulled out of poverty “ by anybody but Obi.

He’s comfortable with World bank publishing stats that portray the north as poor and the north getting funds from USAID and other international organizations .

He’s comfortable with NBS publishing stats that portrays the north as poor and the federal government of Nigeria planning on how to channel anchor borrowers for farmers and other social intervention for the north .

But the moment Obi talks about the poverty in the north and mentioning doing everything possible if elected to better the lives of northerners , it becomes an issue .

The thing bias does to people ehn.

raumdeuter:
The same way many people get defensive when the defect of their children is discussed

Have you seen the response of Northerners to all these world bank and UN reports? It became an issue of leave us to die and take your western report away whther true or not. At a time they stopped taking polio vaccines as a result until they had to enroll prominent Northern leaders to talk to their people

Same way IPOB issue cannot be resolved by outsiders until the leader in the region takes responsibility and talk to their children. When outsiders talk about UGM haven't you seen the defensive stands some take, they claim its overblown, some claim its DSS, some even say its an outright lie and nothing of such happens


Same way Agbero cannot be resolved by outsiders if not from SW

Same way Jonathan Edwin Clarke and Asari were those sent to ND militants

Same way I will likely be defensive if an Oyinbo is telling me about how Nigerians are scammers and saying the exact same thing I say about Nigeria scam on Nairaland. It's not that the Oyinbo is wrong, it's because he is an outsider

Trump and Obama can make the exact same statement word for word about perceived ills in the black community and would be received differently. For example talk about crime or breakdown of family by Trump or Obama

If there is anything wrong and the insiders don't acknowledge and try to fix it very little progress will be made, same reason the entire US war on terror was seen as war on Islam and war on Middle Eastern culture so much that young men who have been oppressed for decades are fighting the US who wanted to liberate them because they are seen as outsider

Okay now. Let the north be rich to outsiders and poor to insiders since poverty in the north is an issue they must get defensive about when “outsiders” talk about the subject matter .

May God see them through . I rest my case .

raumdeuter:
If the Northerners see it as a problem they should address it.

Especially issues that has to do with cultures. Poverty stems from things that are embedded in their culture/religion. Na God dey take care of pikin mentality, Have them send them to one Alfa.

In middle east when you bring up women education and early marriages you will see the push back

World bank’s poverty index ranks northern states among the top 10 states with poor people ….. Why are the northerners not fighting world bank ?

NBS statistics as at 2022 says 65% of poor people in Nigeria reside in the north while 35% reside in the south . Why is nobody calling NBS out for the stats?

Abi all of them be insiders to northerners ?

If we claim Nigeria is one country , then all Nigerians are qualified to talk about Nigeria’s problem . What happens in the north affects us all here . The insecurity issue for example impacts on food production. It’s just the same way those mmm activities of Unknown gunmen/ipob militants affects transportation business , logistics/haulage businesses etc .

raumdeuter:
People will always get defensive about their sore spot when it's discussed by someone perceived not to be one of them

It's why you avoid discussing height related issues with a dwarf

So u think only people who are one of them has a right to discuss about the poverty in the north right ?

Unlimited22:
Lots of Northern leaders have called out the widespread poverty in the east including up to Sanusi Lamido.

It's only a problem when Obi does it.

Potatoes will always potate

raumdeuter:
A ki ti oju onika mefa ka

Ask Roland17 for translation

I understand what the proverb says but it doesn’t apply here . No be today we non-easterners dey talk about Baby factory problem of easterners , also saying south south youths engage in Yahoo yahoo more trigger them to call it insult . Why will northerners get triggered for calling a spade a spade ?

If we are afraid of talking about the problem , how do we come up with a solution ?

izzou:


[color=royalblue]BlueRayDick, come and pick up what you ordered[/color]

I no order anything o. U can see the truth hurts…. Deadpresidents is a northerner through and through and he attested to the fact that there’s serious poverty in the north. It’s the usual suspects that are seeing it as an insult and are rehashing quotes about girl child trafficking , prostitution etc( which are obvious problems of the south ) that will make the north better/no longer in poverty .

Unlimited22:
He's not wrong.

But the average Twitter user is looking for news and entertainment, not to monetise Stuff.

Most of these guys just use Twitter to gain large followerships that they can funnel to their own sales channels.

We're hearing that in the 24 hours following the suspension of legacy verification, Twitter Blue has a net gain of 28 subscribers.

Not 28k or 2800.

28.


It remains to be seen what goes on from here.

The majority users don’t blooody care if Twitter breaks even or not. They just want to gossip and make friends/followers .

Musk on the other hand is a capitalist and wants to make money off his new acquisition . It remains to be seen if power truly belongs to the people or power belongs to the person sitting atop a board making decisions

larride:
It’s the same thing down West here also. A lot of our boys who should be going to school, learning a trade to become artisans and add value to the society are either joining cultism, doing yahoo yahoo or going into agberoism. Come from Ketu down to Ikorodu and you will even see boys that are not up to 18 already shouting owo mi da. We are sitting on a gun powder and it can explode at anytime.

Or is it our girls that has now taken hook up/Olosho as a career path?

It’s really not looking good.

It’s annoyingly alarming bro . I am well traveled all round Lagos and I’m sacred seeing agberoism reign supreme anywhere I find myself .

These people are just one crisis away from robbing u. Na why I dey fear about the whole subsidy removal shiii. Personally I’m not bothered about what the aftermath , but I’m sacred about what will happen when subsidy is removed , normal people who give handouts to these “owo’mida boys “ do not have anything to give again…..These boys will surely rob us blind with no pity .

A001:
Blueraydicks, see your guy Ndubuisi Ekekwe:

"Good People, I am back on Twitter, after many attempts, and this time, it is permanent. Yes, Twitter has built the product which I have been asking for: give me enough space to build my logic as the 140-character thing was restrictive. This is my Twitter handle: @ndekekwe https://twitter.com/ndekekwe

In the Igbo Nation, the elders will remind everyone that “uwa bu ahia” which means the world is a marketplace, literally. The implication is that Twitter with hundreds of millions of people is one of the world’s largest “markets”.

Since Musk bought Twitter, he has built the Twitter I think works for me. Forget the noise that paying for the blue checkmark is bad. Nonsensical. I got back to Twitter and paid about four days ago. They unlocked enough space. The checkmark is a marginal value; the real deal for me here is the extra space. My subscription - a business expense - has paid for itself; five people joined Tekedia Capital Syndicate membership today from Twitter and that is $5,000, beating the $84 I paid for Twitter's annual subscription.

"Uwa bu ahia" - and Twitter like LinkedIn, Facebook, etc are some of the largest markets in the world, bigger than any "economy" in Africa. Define what works for you. I do not come here to entertain; this is a marketplace!"

My guy na capitalist , so I’m not surprised . That Twitter ish ehn, capitalists will see nothing wrong with it.

GloriousGbola:
Actually that is where you are wrong. Ipob is a symptom of a much larger problem. A recurring problem.

In the late 90s it was a wave of armed robbery that led to the formation of the bakassi boys.

In the mid 2000s it resurrected as a wave of crime that torched the career of the then police commissioner.

The time when osisikanu reigned. After that was a wave of kidnapping that had everyone staying put in December.

Today it is ipob. This will be contained eventually, but in a few years it will be something else.

Wealth/comfort in the hands of a few, a large number of people with nothing to lose and no hope

You are doing the same thing the northern elite are doing. Denying there is a problem because you are in a bubble.

It’s the same thing with Agberoism in the west . Go to Lagos island , Oshodi, Ajah, Igando , Ikotun, Iyana Iba, Ikeja to mention a few ….. u will be alarmed by the number of people with little or no education and zero skills other than threatening violence to extort those who actually hustle by carrying loads for people , driving mini buses , keke napep etc .

Each region is sitting on its keg of gun powder . Like u posted up there , the period that followed ENDSARS was terrible , Men had to form vigilante groups to protect their families against some of these guys who resorted to arms

It is only in Nigeria I will see they tell u a fact that u are poor and then u start rummaging the internet looking for any skewed stats to prove otherwise cos u feel being told u are poor is an insult 🤦‍♂️

I lived practically all my life in the south before going for service in the north . I’ve never seen the level of poverty I witnessed there in my life . Yes not all northerners are poor , but mehn I’ve never seen(until I got to the north ) a situation where u are eating in a mama put/buka and u have small boys with bloodshot eyes waiting on u to remove ur hands from the food so they can pick up the plate and devour whatever remains. They don’t even mind if it’s just one morsel left, they will fight over who will get ur plate , swallow the morsel and lick the plate join.

What we should be discussing is looking at the root cause of these level of poverty ; population overgrowth , etc . No be everything be politics . The people fighting on Twitter defending the north is not poor or saying it’s an insult to them being told the truth just do not like how the sounds. Their governors and politicians have said the same thing about the level of poverty in the north , but I guess the internet-using northerners think otherwise .

God will punish Viera !

We should work on their two fullbacks ; get the ball to saka and Martinelli more ….We should get them in a position they can’t risk fouling saka and Martinelli

Viera and Odegaard dey belabor the whole team . Viera and Odegaard not marking is a big headache for everybody in the team 🤦‍♂️

This viera Is useless