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donjazet:
For fvcks sake, the election is already as divisive as can be, why throw more flames into the fire??

Why dredge up memories (false account or not) that is totally unrelated to today's happenings?

What was the aim of that tweet? Is it to stir emotions or what?

What exactly was he right about??

Look at this tweet again and tell me exactly what seun got right here.

That igbos should go and beg the north and that north should forgive. Which igbos should beg? Which north should forgive?

Isn't the war enough? Wasn't the mantra at the end of the war, no victor, no vanquished?
So why all these?

I agree with u that the timing of Seun's tweet is ill-timed, but I'm telling u what he said in that tweet is not incorrect. The general believe was that the coup was an "Igbo coup", every available facts as at that period suggests that.

I also agree with u that the we are indeed as divided as we can be already...... However it's also fact that most people didn't move on after the war; there's still bitterness and resentment amongst the various tribes of players/actors in the war.

Forget about the "No Victor, No vanquished mantra" mantra being mouthed generally by politicians and military men of that period. Me and u know the secession move/war is the reason some northern politicians make it so difficult for Igbo's to become president. Some of them believe the moment an igbo man becomes president he will wake the Biafra dream.

I personally don't think anybody should beg anybody, but I think we need to have like a refrendum/national.confab to determine how we want to move as a country. Rwanda fought a bloody war as recent as less than 30 years ago and they've moved on to rebuild their country & have learnt to live together with their differences. We need to talk about our differences, let different people's agitations be listened to. In order to do this, some bitter truths will be said, some old wounds will be re-opened ( just like the January 1966 coup), etc.

donjazet:
Seun decided to be unfortunate yesterday. He's been receiving it wotoporiously since yesterday.
Man has blocked, unblocked, locked and reopened comment section.

I just couldn't believe seun could be this foolish.

But Ṣeun has only said what most of us have read in books about the civil war na.

Most people during that period actually saw the January 1966 coup as "Igbo coup" and that was why there was a counter-coup.

Maybe the way Ṣeun brought it up may not sit down well with the younger generation on twitter, but seun is not wrong on this one.

Japa gang …… but why naija women dey always change the moment they get financially independent abroad ?

PDPGuy:
Facts! If we don’t resolve the spending problem at all levels of government, then there is simply no hope of ever getting our public infrastructure to first world status.

Na wetin I talk for here be this wey one guy dey show me data of countries that have lowest VAT and corporate income tax .

We are talking about government foolishly spending scarce resources buying SUV’s every year for ministries and parastatals , members of of Legislooters not up to 500 people spending billions of naira on themselves without any proper checks and balances in place , etc .

I pay my taxes because they are mandatory and deducted from source ; imagine how demotivated those people in the informal sector will be to enter the tax net knowing whatever tax they are paying will not be put to better use. At least transporters can see their own fees , dues and levies are being used by their union leaders to marry more wives , send their children abroad and given out as donations in churches and mosques .

Our leaders need to first show they are accountable before they start demanding for more funds in form of increased taxation.

If u ask most of the governors that have ruled between 1999 till date in all the 36 states to come out with their accountant general to match income to expenses and balance things out; I’m sure most of them will develop different ailments and suddenly start using wheelchair

iamoyindamola:
Oshey

In other news baddyosha just denied been arrested

No mind am ; na because na Dubai police carry am na why he still dey get mouth to deny . If to say him matter cast like Hushpuppi with FBI; He for no get anywhere to hide .

Funny enough, it was people based in Dubai that first called their friends in Nigeria about his arrest

raumdeuter:
If Jakande also had an OBJ as president who will withhold his LGA allocation

We’ve gone over this before na .

larride:
So you have shifted away that Tinubu did not do anything in Lagos? That's a good start.

Only God knows how much more Tinubu administration could've achieved if Obasanjo govt didn't withheld LGA funds for 4yrs.

The problem I have with u and actually dislike engaging u is that u only see what u want to see and boom! U go into ur APC defensive mode.

The person I engaged initially obviously got my point ; he saw where I mentioned the 4 years time frame, but typical u have a whole lot running through ur mind and already projecting same on me instantly…. Smh

Goodluck to u on this one; I no get that kind energy today .

larride:
Tinubu built 5 general hospital and 49 Primary health centers during his tenure and renovated 19 General hospitals that were in bad shape before he became Governor.

He also rebuilt the Lagos Island Maternity Hospital that was abandoned in the 1980s when a section of it caught fire. That same HOSPITAL is now one of the best maternity hospital in the country.

Tinubu also upgraded Ikeja General Hospital to a teaching hospital and established the college of medicine.

At LASUTH, Tinubu built the following:

- Eye Institite
- New A/E complex
- 4 story building pediatrics and family medicine complex
- BT ward
- Sports complex
- Histoppathology Laboratory
- Established LASEMBUS (Ambulance Service)
- 12 public blood banks

He also constructed:

- Renal Dialysis ward at Gbagada hospital annex
- Dental Clinic at Surulere General hospital
- Doctors quarters at Isolo and Agbowa
- Theatre complex at Orile Agege

There are several other health policies also like

- Blindess prevention programme (Jigi Bola)
- Free health scheme was improved upon (Free treatment for children aged 12 and below and free treatment for adults aged 60 and above)
- Roll back malaria programme

Etc

This is just health sector alone, if you want we can do sector by sector. I'm game if you are game.

The point is Jakande’s “to-do “ ability is key in everything he achieved . I mean this man achieved everything we reference today within 4 years . Like that’s crazy!

I can only imagine the much deafening noise that will greet our ears if all these were done by Tinubu within the same time frame and with more money available to spend .

Only God knows what Jakande would’ve done in 8 years .

chrisooblog:
Jakande did well in his time and you can't take that away from him, but you can't compare the problems he tackled to the ones Tinubu faced.

Tinubu has used the state machinery to (allegedly) enrich himself and his associates but in the same vein his vision has created opportunities and avenues for people to make money so much so people keep rushing to Lagos for the proverbial golden fleece.

Through his vision of a Lekki free trade zone a port is now there, Dangote fertilizer and oil refinery is now there. Ocean surge that was threatening to sink the whole of VI is now prime estate in Eko Atlantic. Molues that dominated Lagos traffic replaced by BRT, rebuilt and modernized Lagos courts.

Like Ferguson and Manchester United team of the 1990s to 2010s you can hate and despise them but it will be the height of dishonesty not to acknowledge they were a great team. Like Tinubu I'm not a fan of the man or his politics but he has achieved many noteworthy things in his time with next to no federal support from Obasanjo that's fact. Some would claim it's because Lagos was capital as if other states don't have ports or federal assets of their own.

Herein lies the problem . Jakande solved a lot of problems without creating others in the process .

He solved a major issue in Lagos ( Housing ) . Jakande estates are scattered all over Lagos and indeed low income earners were the major beneficiaries . It’s not the houses being built nowdays already being pre-ordered by senior civil servants/ politicians and their associates . I know at least 4 elderly relatives who were beneficiaries of those Jakande flats .

Jakande could’ve decided to enrich himself like the other 18 governors who ruled during that time in other parts of the country , but he chose to work and allow his works speak even years after his demise . That’s a man of the people right there !


Tinubu had his good side no doubt , but he’s not the messiah of Lagos most of his fans/supporters portray him to be .

On a lighter note, going out this morning seeing blocked drainages causing floods here and there makes me wonder what exactly is Joe Igbokwe’s job. Is that man clearing drainages on the pages of Facebook or what ?

GloriousGbola:
Lateef jakande was governor when a 77kobo was a dollar. He was a governor in the it is not money but how to spend it era. He was governor when lagos had a population of 4 million. He was governor at a time Nigeria could afford to send hundreds of graduates out for masters.

It was a completely different time. A different economy, a different population.


It was also a time when Nigeria could afford purely socialist undertakings.

What would Lateef jakande have done in 1999,with an empty treasury, a population that had more than doubled a naira at over 30 to the dollar in a country just exiting pariah status and with most of Lagos infrastructure gone to shit?

No, I disagree with you.

Lagos had it's problems back then and Jakande sorted them. Jakande ruled at a time when Lagos population was described as getting overstretched . In fact Jakande had to cancel two academic sessions and reverted from the old day/evening school being operated back then.

The fact that other second republic governors couldn't replicate most Lateef Jakande did in their states shows the man is actually a performer and not because he came by some largesse we don't know about.

If Jakande had PR guys harping on how he tranformed Lagos (Like Tinubu's PR guys do with the IGR talk), maybe it would've been imprinted in our minds thatr Jakande is acutally a miracle worker (Of course without the gazillion IGR of Lagos state we read about everyday)

Damn!

iamoyindamola vawulence don mature o

Theflint1:
Apart from Lagos which we can agree to disagree that it's no man's land (it's most foremost governor, Tinubu is not even an indigen of the state), which other South Western state has non-indigenes in their state house of assembly?

If Tinubu is Lagos’ foremost governor , I wonder what we would call Lateef Jakande. That man within 4 years of rule established Lagos state university , built low cost housing estates in Badagry , Iponri , Oke-Afa, Iba , Abesan, Surulere , Epe, Aumwo-Odofin etc, he built general hospitals in Ikorodu , Gabgada and even built health centres scattered around the state . The baba even made free education a must and built more schools and classrooms during that same 4 years . The number of public primary schools increased from 605 to 812

I think how Lateef Jakande performed these feats that now appear like miracle miracle today needs to be studied as a course for our present day politicians .

[b]This is Tukur Mamu.

He is the publisher of the Desert Herald, a newspaper outfit based in Kadunna.

He was arrested by Interpol a few days ago at Cairo airport on his way to Saudi Arabia and deported back to Nigeria, where he was picked up by DSS on arrival.

Now, here is why Tukur was picked up.

The influential Islamic cleric has access to Fulani herdsmen and the terrorists terrorizing North West Nigeria.

He is very close to Sheik Gumi and was more or less a protege of Gumi, who also has access to the same terrorists and has been pleading on their behalf that the government of the day should grant them amnesty.

Because of the access that Tukur had, he turned it into a business where he became the chief negotiator and the go-between between the victims kidnapped and the terrorists who kidnapped them.

So when a victim is kidnapped in Kaduna or Zamfara, for instance, the family of the kidnapped victim will go to meet Tukur, who has access to the terrorists.

Tukur would now get in touch with the terrorists on behalf of the family that contacted him and then negotiate on behalf of the victim being held by the terrorists.

When the price to pay as ransom was agreed upon between Tukur and the terrorists, Tukur would contact the family and then inform them how much they would pay to secure the release of their loved ones being held captive by terrorists.

When the money had been raised by the grieving and traumatized family, Tukur would collect his share, the commission for negotiating the release, and then hand over the rest to the terrorists to release this victim.

A win/win situation for the both parties.

Business was flourishing as the terrorists were kidnapping victims every day.

Remember the Kaduna train attack?

Tukur negotiated the release of all the victims; they were released so long after they allegedly paid 100 million naira per head.

Only God knows how much commission he made from the deal but I was told it was in billions.

The same man brought his negotiating skills forward when Greenfriend university students and staff in Kaduna were kidnapped by bandits.

He facilitated the release of the students and staff of the university after negotiating how much they would pay for their release.

Tukur is so hilarious and dishonest that after cashing out from negotiations and then subsequent release of victims that he facilitated, he would appear on Arise TV and swear that he was doing this thankless work for free, without taking kobo from anyone, because he loved this country so much.

For Tukur Mamu, having access to Fulani herdsmen made him a billionaire over night.

Man was living large, a life of opulence that he could not afford to live when he was running his media publishing business full time.

He even flew first class with his two wives and sons to Cairo on their way to Saudi Arabia for Haji before they were picked up by interpol.

When they raided the house a few days ago, the DSS confirmed that they saw a large amount of foreign currency in it.

Apparently, he was saving his loot in dollars by hedging against inflation and the devaluation of Naira: What a smart business man that he is.

The Buhari government made a lot of criminals rich over night because of his incompetence.

Tukur Mamu is one of them.

Nigeria!

A country where anything you see, you take it like that. - Written by Chukwudi Iwuchukwu[/b]

This is why I’ve always been against Gumi and everything he says about insecurity in the northwest . And this is why I will never agree Buhari’s government has done its best to on insecurity challenges this far

Cc: amoto94

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
cc: BlueRayDick


First things first, are you saying that IPOB killed Akunyili?
When there is insecurity in the land, criminal elements & murderers use the opportunity to wreck havoc. We saw how people's shop were looted & ATM attacked during #endsarrz.


2ndly, there was a news that made frontpage on NL. Reading the news contents, they told us that police stations & military checkpoint were all locked up on a sit @ home day in a state in the SE...

If the lives of policemen securing our roads are in danger & they were forced to take a break from policing, what then will happen to motorists? Omo na anything wey u see make u collect.

As of last year, some primary & secondary school students were were going to school on saturday in SE because of insecurity while, in the North some farmers were paying huge sums to bandits in order to harvest their crops... in the WEST it is well documented & receipts plenty but in the EAST agenda must agend so therefore, hundreds of thousands are suffering everyday...

Baba insecurity anywhere in the country should worry all of us. As a south-westerner I'm concerned about safety of people even in the east. Imagine having to go work in the east and I'm killed because some people believe I'm a fulani slave, or getting killed in the northeast because boko haram thinks the education I have is "haram"?

I can buy the argument that there are non-violent IPOB factions and the violent factions, but claiming all of those killings are done by political thugs and petty criminals is very very far from the truth.

You referring to the police and security agents observing "sit-at-home" order is you making my point for me. That is why educated people like you and me must speak against the evil being perpetuated by those criminals under the guise of fighting for independence . We all saw how there was anarchy for the few weeks security agents went on sabbatical shortly after the ENDSARS protests in Lagos. Grown men had to abandon their beds just to act as security for the families, properties and loved ones. Some police stations were even rebuilt by some CDA's just cos they .

You people need to speak against the person of Simon Ekpa; those needless killings will only make the region suffer economically and make live unbearable for both indigenes and foreigners.

raumdeuter:
If we want to discuss the civil war, its only fair that we discussed what led to it and while discussing what led to it we will discuss how my great uncle was murdered by Col Nwobosi. Then we will ask what he did to Col Nwobosi who went into his official quarters to murder him at his prime. In the course of that, some of them will argue how he deserved to die

If an independent sovereign country has a civil war, Who did they expect Britain to support? Why is US, EU UK supporting Ukraine and not supporting the breakaway Dombass region. When The Ijaw nation decided to breakaway why did Col Ojukwu feel it was his duty to stop and crush that rebellion

Ojukwu after the war joined all the guys he warred with including Buhari OBJ, and Gowon.

I actually do find it funny that most people get to be told a distorted part of history that has now been repeated over and over again to the extent that some people actually believe it's true now. Most people make the war looked like it was Yoruba vs Igbo thing..... People are willing to forget the coup and counter coup of 1966 played a big role in how the war shaped out.

People do not want to talk about soldiers sacking a dully elected government(Soldiers that are majorly from a particular region of the country o), nobody wants to talk about the counter-coup that followed(staged by soldiers who felt aggrieved by the outcome of the first coup),...... The progroms are there too.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Kuje prison was attacked in FCT..some BH terrorists escaped.
Abuja~Kaduna train was attacked, some passengers kidnapped.
Bandits running riot in NW.
Scores were killed during the Owo Catholic church attack... People left their indigenous lands & fled to Benin Republic

But according one agbado bishop, hundreds of thousands are suffering in the hands of IPOB, ESN e.t.c....


Say No To Fake News.

But it’s true that thousands of people are suffering from the illegal activities of ESN/IPOB in the southeast . Somebody who resides in Ikorodu Lagos shared how his neighbor was killed by those IPOB miscreants while observing the Monday sit-at-home order . The man was dragged out of the bus he was driving on the way to the east ( He works with an oil servicing firm ) . The man is even Igbo and not Fulani o.

Can u imagine how a family breadwinner’s life was just cut-off like that ? Dora Akunyilli is a great heroine whom we are all grateful for her service to humanity; look at how her husband was killed like a common thief in the middle of the road .

I expect anybody with conscience to condemn such despicable acts. I remember telling Greatihex that time all these killings will leave the east worse off ; but he said most of the so-called ESN attacks are actually being carried out by DSS disguised as ESN led attacks .

nihilistjnr:
I'm not trying to win an argument about Biafra.

My position has always been that Nigeria is a useless and unworkable contraption that either needs to be broken up, or accepted as a doomed state.

The argument about the Queen and Biafra for me represents the importance of looking forward instead of back. Unlike in Nigeria, the British crown was more directly involved in the subjugation of India, and up until last week an Indian man was within a hairs breadth of becoming Prime Minister of the country that colonised the lands of his ancestors, and this was after having held and resigned from the 2nd most powerful office in the country.

There's a powerful irony at play here seeing a bunch of Indians (there were 5 in the Johnson Government) colonise thr colonisers. And an Indian is currently the Mayor of London

In the Nigeria of today, a Yoruba man cannot even be Governor of an Igbo state or Vice Versa. Its funny that some people are blaming the Queen and the Colonialists for a war started by people who killed democratically elected leaders and could not then agree on how to rule the country, when a Nigerian can literally move to the UK aged 16 like Kemi Badenoch and become a Minister in the UK Government.

That was what I found so absurd about the underlying premise of Uju Anya's tweet, made from a former British Colony, enjoying thr freedom to marry a woman that she does not even have in the land of her own Birth.

Like me and Roland17, you sef don japa. You sef know the score. If we want to complain about oppression,the worst oppression is to be found at the hands of those who look just like us.

This is ultimately the point I tried to make.

This is it! Nigerians are being unfair to each other on a daily basis, but wish to point fingers to foreign governments

As far as this civil war matter is concerned , I will suggest individuals should try and get books written by different actors in the war and then form ur own opinion about what really happened in the war. We should stop basing our opinions on few people who just want to write things from their own viewpoint only .

Myself for example I’ve read Obasanjo’s account of the war, Wole Soyinka’s “the man died “, Chukwuemeka Ike’s “Sunset at dawn “ , Chinua Achebe’s “ There was a country “ ..:.. I could sense the bias of different authors and yet I could still make out some of the stuff that were facts and those that are just emotional diatribe .

However , if u only read opinions of ur revered author and choose to read other pieces without open mind, u are sure to believe some falsehoods that have been repeated so much that it now looks like the truth

seankafor:
bro on one was blaming the queen for today's unbecomings as nihilist and above posters paints it to seem

If someone was at the forefront of your maltreatment, let's say 50 years ago.. yes today you have moved on.. but let's say that person happens to die or an event happens that makes you remember those days and you re opportuned to voice your opinion.. will you sing kumbaya to the culprit in the name of moving on?

Won't you recount those years the person maltreated and treated you wrong?
I don't get what these. People mean

So we shouldn't remember what the Britain and hag Elizabeth did to our fathers in the Biafra struggle just because we have moved on?

Let me ask u a question ; Nigeria gained independence from Britain in 1960 and 7 years after Nigeria goes into a civil war in a bid to fight for the sole of the nation…… Theowback to 55 years ago; who would u have supported? Is it the country u granted independence or its breakaway version ?

Most times when we talk about the civil war, everyone wants to talk about the casualty on one side of the war instead of talking about the root and remote causes of the war.

We should be talking about the 1966 progroms, the coups that led to loss of lives on both sides , etc. These aforementioned issues are not British caused but issues amongst our people who could not live at peace with each other .

The British monarch saw two brothers willing to kill each other and the British monarch only sided with one party against the other. That’s all.

We are our own problem . No be the British monarch that has 10’s of such countries with similar civil crises to deal with

nihilistjnr:
But let's blame the deceased Queen of England. She should apologise for her inactions during the war and ever since.

I don’t think anybody should be blaming the queen for us not moving past a war that ended 52 years ago.

Even Rwandans that fought a deadly civil war as recent as 28 years ago have moved on and already making their country a number 1 tourist destination in Africa .

Ibime:
Ifeanyi.Uba convoy attacked in SE

Many of his security personnel dead


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa4MZTpZulg

Below for the unblurred version

https://www.facebook.com/100000250813464/posts/pfbid02wQrg3Wszrq3g7Q6eVsY1GnECFT8t8MymszfGaSeLkFyjTqSS3vkYVXzCb7pUmfeFl/?sfnsn=scwspwa

The southeast has been overrun by these non-state actors

Irrespective of how the people feel about their State government or the federal government at center, the people need to cooperate with government to help return peace and normalcy to their society . The way they killed Dora Akunyilli’s husband , other innocent victims and now these men is condemnable . I think at this point the people need to take a stand against these criminal elements hiding under the guise of Biafra agitation to cut short the life of people’s breadwinners

Unlimited22:
Bruh, the entire state of New York


These boys did mad tings during lock down shaa. From palliative funds to things like this but this one is mad.

A friend of mine told me how little boys that were still in SS3 prior to the COVID-19 lockdown made millions from the benefits funds that were released to Americans . He said some SS3 boys actually bought cars from those benefit days .

Some ladies even said “I do “ to those benefit boys cos of the millions they made from the stuff; now most of them are divorced since the cash stopped flowing .

Those are the ones here o, now imagine those residing in America who actually have physical access to the funds

Toast for dinner

Spy360:
I saw Saka of two years ago in Marquinhos. He was very direct and hardly loses the ball and got good positioning, making himself available for a pass or to score. He has pace and most importantly the sense to know when to take on his man and when to cross. Saka should watch his back.

Yeah , I had this feeling too . I saw a young player full of hunger and just wants to play for the good of the team.

I just hope when the money starts coming he won’t lose his head like most Brazilians do

raumdeuter:
Na the yahoo boy mentality be that, they just wat to flex their money and make fun of those hustling legit for theirs

Na why most of them no dey last for streets like their fellow cyber criminals elsewhere in the world . While other cyber criminals would lie low and enjoy their money in obscurity, a typical naija cyber criminal wan shock friends and foes ; he wan make una hear the odour. Na so dem dey take enter bigger trouble .

Imagine Hushpuppi was just the money launderer in his group when the real hackers and Black hat guys who work the illegal
Money out are just playing back role .

Jodera:
Nice...
How good was his take ons and decision making?

He knew when to take you heads-on and when to lob-in a pass to the fire hole .

I believe he will come out a finished product in less time than it took Martinelli . He seem passionate about playing as well . You can see it in him that he just wants to play like a typical Brazilian

GloriousGbola:
Nigga has reverted all the way back to type na. All the obsessive flossing on IG tells you the guy has a poverty stricken origin story. You saw those clips of portable with keke Marwa? I am sure there would be clips of hushpuppi killing it at menial jobs back in the day.

Those yanks should share pictures of the guy in prison denims.

So the youth can learn that crime actually does not pay

Personally I think he’s mentally imbalanced to have flossed on IG with I’ll-gotten wealth to the extent of insulting hardworking guys .

He literally insulted dem Phyno , Falz for rocking fake time-piece on their wrist . Two of them had to drop lines for him in their next release .

I agree with u, make dem Yanks leak him photo make boys for streets see how low one can go after the highest of highs courtesy of fraud

Jodera:
Abeg, who watched the game.
How is the performance of Marquinhos and Vieira?
Also, how was our play?

Marquinhos played well; Viera wasn’t bad as well…. Just that Viera gives me Juan Mata kinda vibes

Maquinors played well. I’m hoping to see more of him.

Turner Is just Runnerson pro max . It’s unfortunate most good keepers do not want to play second fiddle ; hence we will always have one good first choice goalkeeper and a clown as his deputy .

Fabio Viera na the kind players we dey call “ alafe eniyan “ …. People whose football na sexy and jolly football ; when match too hard players like that dey disappear . He’s a good player that will shine in matches we dominate sha

I don’t understand why Arteta had to bring in Saka, Odegaard, Zinchenko and Jesus . Is he that desperate to go back to winning ways ?

Hushpuppi emerges “best bathroom cleaner in prison “. Who would’ve thought the one and same Ramoni that lives is palacio Versace would turn out to a prison bathroom cleaner ?

https://www.nairaland.com/7322530/hushpuppi-emerges-best-bathroom-cleaner

I’m looking forward to seeing what maquinors and Fabio Viera can do with the ball ….. Na so dem Martinelli took their chances back then. Hopefully these ones too will announce themselves

iamoyindamola:
Nketiah fit na
Saka on bench too
Shebi these werey say we no register him

They are all fit and fine.