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Oasis007:


No one lies to himself more than that Dude. I've never seen real Atheists sympathetic to a particular Religion.

Baba said he be Atheist, yet he no want miss heaven...... LMFAO!

What is this ?

Audio ban as usual.

I can bet u that Tomorrow morning people going to work will still carry bike from Surulere to CMS to beat the traffic the closure of Apongbon bridge has caused .

Same with people that ply Apapa axis

afrodoc2:
E shock you?

Over-shock sef

Baba quickly disembark

General Don J resuming for duty

Itsrm:
I didn't make the money by being stupid. Why will I throw it away?

That I have a hunch that City will not win does not mean I'm willing to lose money

U are a wise man; u will go far in life

Itsrm:
You heard it from me first, City will not win that match

How much are u willing to lose on this personal conviction ?

airmark:
His defence was ludicrous and that exposed him to be unbothered naturally.

He said that to pacify his would be voters in the north that are majorly fanatics .

airmark:
He claimed his handler posted it without his knowledge i.e he never cared. So when he was informed, they were asked to delete it. So he never cared technically.

U expect a politician to sacrifice his political ambition on the alter of morality ?

Was it not Tinubu a Southerner that was asking “ Where are the cows?” When Fulani herdsmen killed Per Fasoranti’s daughter ( a fellow southerner ) on the expressway ? He was not willing to call a spade a spade for political reasons . Politicians are always like that

donjazet1:
My brother at the end of the day, I'm just frustrated with the situation of things.

I need more Muslims who are less radical like you to be able to bring your brothers in line.

Atiku withdrawing his condemnation and firing his social media team was a massive trigger for me. It laid bare the raw situation of things. The fact that someone who wants to govern a secular nation cannot condemn a murder we've witnessed in broad daylight just exhibited the story of Nigeria and told us all we needed to know about who owns the country.

The least I felt I can do is push the Muslims we have hear to take a stance. Take an open stance, and if you're not in support of the barbarism, face your brothers who are, and change their minds! Initiate a reform of Islam.

One love brother.

Atiku is a politician who needs the mass votes of the fanatical northern Muslims to win an election . He would do everything possible to secure those votes even if it requires him to turn blind eye to such burning issue . Even Southern presidential candidates are guilty of same including the Non-Muslims amongst them.

The UN Deputy Secretary General , Amina Mohammed who is a Muslim condemned the killing of the young lady . That should tell u not all Muslims hold the same views concerning the issue

airmark:
Shouldn't you be more interested in Norwich vs Tottenham?

No be u go tell me where I go invest my interest comrade

I can’t wait to see Klopp and Loserpool fans get disappointed while monitoring results at the Etihad as city go dey kolobi Aston Villa on Sunday .

donstan18:
Them knack person ban, e stop to dey drop epistle insulting Muhamaad out of fear to avoid another ban.

And Na this same person say e go enter Muslim midst insult their prophet.

Nairaland buccaneer

U this guy

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Can't they see we are just going around circles?

I came back only to read four pages of nonsense [/color]

Me I don talk am already say the arguments are unnecessary. Nobody is willing to compromise their beliefs for the other person’s ….. but people talk say the middle fencers will learn a thing or two .

izzou:

Supermod izzou no vess

GloriousGbola:
[mThis is what I expect from my fellow butt hurt Muslims. As they Diss you, you Diss them back. Not all this running around with machete and foaming at the mouth. The militant atheists have the game of picking all the nasty ish in the bible down to a science.

I grew up with Ahmed deedat religious debates. These guys dey stroke each other wella. No one started getting emotional and threatening to kill the other

Maybe the way Islam was passed down to the northerners ( through conquest/real warfare by Usman Dan fodio) is a reason why some northern Muslims mostly resort to using violence to make their points, I don’t know.

raumdeuter:
Even regarding slavery, Go to any kings palace in Africa and tell them the king is equal to the slave e.g tell a core Bini chief that Oba of Bini is equal to the slave in his compound. Even na the slave go slap you for blasphemy

My issue with the Deborah case is that I do not see what was blasphemous about what she said. "Jesus made me pass" and "Stop posting non course related materials on this group" cannot be termed blasphemy

Personally I feel she’s had an encounter with those guys that predates the whole whatsapp incident . ( I know most people would call it whataboutism, but it’s my personal “ignorant” theory ) . Reading the chats there’s no way one can infer blasphemy from their conversation, so I feel those guys probably have a score to settle with her and they only accused her of blasphemy just to carry out their preconceived evil act.

donjazet:
Stop inventing your own narrative to make your point palatable. Who told you women who did not marry before 18 were outcasts?

Determining age then sef was a problem because they didn't use Gregorian calendar. They mostly married the girl during or after puberty. Barely prepubescent.

Slavery is BAD!!! I'm not arguing the legality but the morality. Slavery will always be bad, whether it was acceptable in that society or not. There were still some societies ahead of their time then who would tell you it was bad. The world wasn't a singularly.

That something was done in ignorance doesn't exclude the offenders.

Just like Raumdeuter has pointed out, morality is subjective ; very very subjective . What is moral to u may not be moral to someone else. Ur morality is definitely not the S.I unit of Morality worldwide .

What u’ve been doing all this while is forcing ur own moral standard on others. Like Amoto94 has said he believes blasphemy should be punished , while u don’t . In instances like this it’s the legal authority u consult.

When the discussion started I pointed it out that blasphemy was criminalized under the Nigerian criminal code and is punishable by 2 years imprisonment . I observed how some posters were uncomfortable with this stand and made snide remarks , so I quickly disembark . But the reality is if any religious person feels u’ve insulted his or her religion , he can petition the police who can then institute an action against u and the court will decide whether u did as alleged or not. Although this is actually inconsistent with the constitution that entitles every Nigerian to freedom of thought, conscience, and religion, and the right to freedom of expression….. Yet some northern states still hide under the sharia penal code to sentence whoever is accused of blasphemy within their states.

All in all, Nigeria is not one country . The South and the North are very very different in almost everything. Anywhere u find urself use ur head no let them use am for u (or worse still collect the head from u sef)

Kloppo:
How

1. Food/flexing
2. Growth
3. Camera quality/ filter
4. Change of body cream

afrodoc2:
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You are actually buttressing his point. The debates/arguments are not to convince Dayo or the pro-Hazard fans but for the many undecided and fence-sitting ones.

Pro-Hazard will never agree. Anti-Hazard will never agree. But the those in the middle can be swayed.

This has always been my stand, maybe I didn’t spell it out well in my initial post tho.

seankafor:
I don't know why some people choose fantasy over reality..

People think this life is black and white.. thinks the world revolves around them..

What is there to accept the fact that there are good and bad guys, educated Muslims and fanatics, killers and scammers.. and so on..
These sects of people are amongst us and nothing no one can do about it no matter what ever in this life is done..
If you are around these sects of bad guys, isn't it best to carry caution and behave?
Is that really a hard ask for someone to use his head in midst of extremists with contrary views?

Exactly ! There will always be fanatics; in fact some fanatics are highly educated and their higher education does not rid them of their fanaticism.

Look at that MURIC guy , he’s a professor and he’s a fanatic . There’s nothing u can do to change the view of such people , if u like cap from today to next year he will remain adamant in his views . In fact the relative peace that’s being enjoyed in the Southwest between the two major religions, the man is ready to threaten it with his fanatical stand on religious issues .

Personally I’ve always maintained that people should do what will save their lives in every situation and not die for some nonsensical principles or beliefs . Look at MKO Abiola that “died for democracy /his mandate” , is it not that same democracy our corrupt politicians are doing anyhow now ? I’m sure the man will be turning in his grave seeing what the so called NADECO people are doing with the democracy now

NinjaXmetahuman:
lol. You didn't even get a single point from my post.

Oya read it again.

Never mind

NinjaXmetahuman:
you will be surprised the number of people changed their views based on these arguments.

See ehn, religious argument is never about changing the mind of people having that argument, but those who aren't having it at all.

You really can't change the mind of people having the argument. Even if there is any change of mind (pride and conviction won't let them accept that they they changed their mind) but you will notice it in the way they argue further on different topics that something has changed.

It's the same with football.

But the purpose of religious arguments is to change the mind of those who are reading the arguments with open minds those who are not even participating at all but held some beliefs or the other and just want to learn a thing or two about some topics.

That's why atheism or a form of it has been on a steady rise in Nigeria even though it was ridiculous or practically impossible to see such people in the past.

I became an atheist from a devoted Christian who never misses by reading these arguments.

But I would love if they move it to religion section though, cos argument about religion never ends.

Has anybody here been able to change Raumdeuter's view that Hazard is more than shakushaku master? Or has anybody been able to convince him Van Djik is actually a good defender despite his habitual finger pointing ?

Like I said, most people who change their religious views because of such arguments only did so because they've always have those doubts for a long time, the arguments only amplified the doubts and they become bold enough to damn the consequences .

@donjazet for the sake of ur safety, I sincerely hope u don't say "MOHAMMED IS A PAEDOPHILE " in the presence of 4 or more core northern Muslims offline.

This life no get duplicate o.

I think the problem here is Christians see the Bible as the only book that should be refrenced as far as their faith is concerned, while non-Christians, atheists, etc are willing to refrence as many historical books as they can lay their hands on to prove their point that the Bible is inaccurate and carefully tailored to suit specific purposes.

It keeps getting interesting sha. Different day different issue.

Abeg make una dey drop link to these books make we sef follow read o, make una no just dey name-drop giving us assignment to enter google again.

daveP:


No reborn nothing abeg

Trust the process comrade

It’s safe to say potential Jesus and Osimehn deals are off with Arsenal playing is Europa league next season .

daveP:
Who get Thread Author number? Abeg edit this yeye Thread title. E no easy to be both a naija and gunner.

Eagle and Gun are not reliable.

See as ur blood dey hot

Shey shame no dey catch pepe? Everybody play ball well , e tech him hand he lose am again . Na wa o

God supposed punish pepe and the person wey sanction his signing specially

Elneny don try Abeg !

Jencejyde:
Sadly after the first phase I just decided to go do something else only to start the second and a goal down which is not surprising given how we have played.

Truth be told, the team have done their best but it's a long road for this team. Hopefully they can still get their targets but in all honesty Europa is the best we deserve given out performances.

All we needed was a performance but no one showed up when. It mattered most and the coach was not able to inspire anything tactically. Sad but still yet they did well enough to meet the target of a place in Europe

I like ur honesty