₦airaland Forum

BluntNigerian:
I bought a new line last two weeks.
I wanted to use it to register for my BVN, and unfortunately, it cannot be registered.
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Reason:
“Someone else had already used my number to register for BVN..”
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Even with all the receipts and evidences that I am the current genuine owner of the number, the bank still refused.
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I told them to de-register the number from the other BVN which belonged to the previous owner of the same number, but they said that it cannot be done.. They said that I had to contact the person, so that he can apply for the change by himself.... (So, how do I contact him?? Do I even know him? I am the user of the number, so how do I get his current number and call him?)
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I don't know why the Banks couldn't contact the Network Service Providers to run a history-check of such lines...
Or, do I have to go and get a police report by myself and proceed to my Network-Provider in order to run the history-check on the line, just because I happened to be the unfortunate citizen who happened to purchase the recyled number??

I would like to know your opinions to this..

Sanchez01:
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Sanchez01:
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seunayantokun:
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Bossman:
Exactly! Not an issue at all. Registering the recycled/new sim card will require that an NIN be provided. Or once a number is recycled, Telco's will automatically delete all the owners data associated with the sim card.

NobleDeSage001:
Number recycling will not stop.

Rather, once a mobile number is determined to have become dormant and out of use for the prescribed period, the personal details of the former owner can be erased at the time of reissue to a new subscriber.

DonOms:
Yes, number recycling will continue so the number blocks are not wasted since it costs these telecoms company (TELCOS) money to get extra numbers.

What I expect the TELCOS to do is to update the NIN info at the point of re-registering a recycled number i.e. a recycled number will get updated with the NIN and data of the new customer buying the recycled number.

DukeJoe17:
Very simple:
NIN will be replaced while registering for the recycled number. Shikina.

alawiiyeyoruba:
Very good question, but I think once a number isn't in use again, the entire database would be wiped alongside the NIN

I bought a new line last two weeks.
I wanted to use it to register for my BVN, and unfortunately, it cannot be registered.
..
Reason:
“Someone else had already used my number to register for BVN..”
...
Even with all the receipts and evidences that I am the current genuine owner of the number, the bank still refused.
..
I told them to de-register the number from the other BVN which belonged to the previous owner of the same number, but they said that it cannot be done.. They said that I had to contact the person, so that he can apply for the change by himself.... (So, how do I contact him?? Do I even know him? I am the user of the number, so how do I get his current number and call him?)
..
I don't know why the Banks couldn't contact the Network Service Providers to run a history-check of such lines...
Or, do I have to go and get a police report by myself and proceed to my Network-Provider in order to run the history-check on the line, just because I happened to be the unfortunate citizen who happened to purchase the recyled number??

BluntNigerian:
In the case of criminal cases, or any court cases that happened to involve the Recycled SIM, (Since the Network-Providers had supposedly wiped out the information of the previous owner of the SIM, and they didn't keep any backup information about the previous owner), it then means that the new owner is in for a troublem he knows absolutely nothing about.
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What can the NCC and the TELCOS do about that??

I would like to know your opinions to this..

Sanchez01:
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Sanchez01:
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seunayantokun:
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Bossman:
Exactly! Not an issue at all. Registering the recycled/new sim card will require that an NIN be provided. Or once a number is recycled, Telco's will automatically delete all the owners data associated with the sim card.

NobleDeSage001:
Number recycling will not stop.

Rather, once a mobile number is determined to have become dormant and out of use for the prescribed period, the personal details of the former owner can be erased at the time of reissue to a new subscriber.

DonOms:
Yes, number recycling will continue so the number blocks are not wasted since it costs these telecoms company (TELCOS) money to get extra numbers.

What I expect the TELCOS to do is to update the NIN info at the point of re-registering a recycled number i.e. a recycled number will get updated with the NIN and data of the new customer buying the recycled number.

DukeJoe17:
Very simple:
NIN will be replaced while registering for the recycled number. Shikina.

alawiiyeyoruba:
Very good question, but I think once a number isn't in use again, the entire database would be wiped alongside the NIN

Same issues are also experienced when trying to register for BVN with a recyled number which had already been captured on another pre-existing BVN Number.

In the case of criminal cases, or any court cases that happened to involve the Recycled SIM, (Since the Network-Providers had supposedly wiped out the information of the previous owner of the SIM from their own database, and they didn't keep any backup information about the previous owner), it then means that the new owner is in for a troublem he knows absolutely nothing about.
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What can the NCC and the TELCOS do about that??

paix:
Why should they protest? When CHIBOK and DAPCHI girls were abducted, did the parents protest? This is a clear disrespect to Mr. President. If I were the president, I won't even visit the school!!

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Or...
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kutashi:
It won't stop it! All they need to do is to keep track record and time line of when the line recycled! If Mr A is presently using the number, his NIN and all other infos will be active until he discontinue using it and recycle by the Network.

Immediately Mr. B start using the same number, his NIN and other infos become active on the line.

In case of theft, criminal cases, or any court cases that happened to involve the SIM, the network will just provide the time of who, when and what regarding the activities on the line but it's highly advisable if you lost your phone to quickly make a formal report to the police.

I had an experience on this and GLO did a fantastic job with just only email where I detailed what happened with date because I keep records a lot! And they confirmed my story and responded immediately!

(@bolded) This is exactly what they don't do.
They would just wipe out all the information about the previous owner from their own database too..
A lot of police tracking that got the wrong persons involved are as a result of wrong information given to the police by the network providers who just provided the information about the current owner of such numbers to the police.

Sanchez01:
Its a tricky question. I believe the NIN synchronisation will force the hands of telcos into either pushing the period of recycling backward, say two years or might be totally abolished.

Even before now, there have been instances where an old customer's details still show up on new customer details on specific telco work tools.

The NIN synchronisation does not in any way favour telcos because a sizeable amount of their gross comes from SIM sales. The idea of recycling in the first place is to leave no stone unturned. But with the new move, it would mean your number becomes your identity, and as such, can't be handled carelessly.

(@bolded) That's the aim.

overseasnbeyond:
Your wisdom will never die.
Be mindful Nigerian government and leaders already know the end products of their strategies as an avenue to make /steal money from the unsuspected citizens. To set Nigeria on the right track is just very easy but Personal interest is always overriding National interest in the mind of the leaders.
A good biometric data is what the country needs to restore her sanity.
As at today
1. 85% of drivers don't have driver's license because they are not traceable or have falsified license.
2. Law enforcement cannot trace criminal or do background check.
3. Millions of Ghost worker are on payroll and even get pension.
4. Millions of dead voters.
and lots more

(@bolded)


It's a pity.

Globad:
Good one.

Start a hashtag

#VoteWithNIN
#DumpVotersCards

(@bolded)

That would have been the best.
But you see, INEC used a lot of money to produce the cards. They wouldn't want to dump it yet.
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Even the FG, NASS wouldn't want them to dump it yet too.

lexy2014:
Do u "distribute economic policies"? Is it lack of data that is responsible for nigerias underdevelopment?

To a very large extent, YES.!!
If you think it's not true, then tell me why they always use projected values to estimate the population of Nigeria.
But if the NIN policy is properly adhered to, the true Nigerian Population can always be estimated

seunayantokun:
Yeah, with all that now, we should be able to pick our voter's card from any bank, telecom operator's office, NIS offices, etc. Underage voting can be dealt with easily and disenfranchisement in area of voters registration will stop. During voting, voter's NIN or NIN must be written on each ballot paper, then we are getting there.

(@Bolded)


It's supposed to be a secret ballot.
So, no need for that.

paix:
Maybe you live close to the refuse dumb, that's why you're so conversant with TRASH.

Does that make you one??

RedPanthar:
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This Information Is Most Needed By MTN Subscribers

If you have not registered for the National-ID Card, then this thread is not for you.
You have to find any of the Registration Outlets and register first in order to get your NIN.
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If you have your NIMC Printout slip with you, then you find the NIN on top of the slip.
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If you cannot find the Printout slip, then you need to dial *346*1# with the phone-number you provided at the time when you registered for the National-ID Card. (This Service Costs ₦20)
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If you have lost the phone-number as well, then you have to proceed to the NIMC Office for further help. (or you visit the NIMC Website for more information at:
https://www.nimc.gov.ng)
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After you might have obtained your NIN Number, then the rest of the procedure is very easy..
Just go to:
https://mtnonline.com/nim and enter the following details in the appropriate spaces provides for them:
First Name,
Middle Name,
Last Name,
phone number(s),
Email Address,
NIN Number.
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When you click on “Submit”, MTN will have to immediately send the details which you submitted to the NCC and NIMC for verification.
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Alternatively, you can send all these details above to MTN through an Email sent to their official email address:
customercareng@mtn.com
You can title email “NIN SYNCHRONISATION”..
MTN will have to submit the details (which you sent to them) to the NCC and NIMC for verification.
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For more information, you can visit The MTN’s Official Website:
https://mtnonline.com
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PLEASE NOTE
The site https://mtnonline.com/nim is genuine and had been verified.
You can access it from the MTN’s official website too.

isthatso:
maybe they should synchronise nairaland moniker with NIN too

That one is legit too..
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At least, the 2,605,119 accounts will drastically reduce to 47,562 true members...

CodeTemplar:
Biometric data in the hands of private entities is considered safer and arouses lesser suspicion worldwide. Once the govt is involved, the tendency for absolute power to corrupt absolutely is amplified almost immediately and that creates a monstrous problem. Look at how they used CBN regulatory power to frustrate endsars donors. Once the have your VIN tied or linked to your NIN, they can discriminate against those who voted who in election when doing welfare schemes for example so that question of the limit of its use must be properly defined.

Let it be synchronised... When they mentioned that some people constituted 5% and discriminated against them badly, there were no synchronisations then...
So, if such happens now that there are synchronisations here and there, we can easily know how the information got known.

CodeTemplar:
Brilliant idea but in Nigeria the abnormal is always triumphing over the normal and sensible options.
They can use it to check multiple voters registrations and many more ills but what happens when some section of the country subtly reject on religious ground and circumvent the system to their advantage and to the disadvantage of those who complied?

I am talking of core northerners.

This is where the so-called enlightened Nigerians should come out and take a strong stand

bigtt76:


You wan disenfranchise the North be dat naaa, even Pantami can't moot that suggestion sef

Since them don start to dey do synchronisation, they must to complete am to the end ooo..
Wetin be “North” again for this matter??

JB4life:
My own question is this:

With this directive to link all SIMs to NIN,can somebody still have more than one SIM, please?

Yes....
Multiple SIMs all tied to one single NIN..
Just the same way multiple Bank Accounts across many different banks are tied to one Single BVN belonging to one single person..

Alwaysachick:
Front page o

Lalasticlala
Seun

capitalzero:
Because there is no proper synchronisation with NIN.

Once NIN is functional,, there is no need for all the others..
And therefore, there shouldn't be need for multiple registrations again..
Just provide your NIN, and your data get registered already, including the Biometrics.

istina:
With NIN VIN is no longer relevant.
If we really want to be fair, we should be using NIN to vote.

God When??
BUHARI When??!!!

bigtt76:
No go area dat ... If you know, you know

They must To Go that area oooo...!!
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INEC should not be the one to carry last in this synchronisation era, upon say with all their technology.

Jashub

Exc2000:
We don't really need voters card now that we have NIN

This is exactly what it should be..
With this, we can vote from any part of the country; and not necessarily having to travel back to the place where we registered in order to cast our votes.

Lalasticlala