U got me cracking there boy

TB Joshua is the one man of God that questions have nothing to ask about. Buh it only takes decernible spirits to seprate the weed from the shaff. So what anybody doubting his authenticity should pray for, is the spirit of decernment and not just the application of human logical vargueness that always fails us.

immortalvoices:

That same God who ask him to warn people who take delight in mocking him

How do u expect perfection in a human being environment accident happens mistake are made...he has offered condolence apologies taking care of the injured and go make ur enquiry many of the victim are being prayed for...
Yet your all takes delight in insulting him..here is a man who gives generously without holding back. Takes care of the elderly, handicap and poor people
Have onew write anything about that no..

All we care is to look for who to pour our frustrations on because we av got laptops or smart phones... Instead of solving the root cause of our problem

The truth is that no matter how you all wish evil upon him he will be vindicated by God as there are two nature in him (prophet and Mr TB Joshua) he is a human and if you heed this warning like he said you will only read your insult that you wrote albeit in a precarious way...Never ever insult a man of God lest you fight against God...

May God bless ur wisdom

DarqChild:

Dude even the bible says we have been created in God's image and likeness affording us the capability to think, look at the facts before us and make better judgment on things for our own governance. Just like his counterpart Oyakhilome this man is claiming as a man of God he is incorruptible and therefore untouchable and most people will read this crap he has vomitted and take it hook line and sinker and mark my words just like previous atrocities committed by so many men of God that has been swept underneath the carpet this will soon be forgotten because we will afford him that courtesy and cloak of being untouchable like in the past. "when sensible men allow stupid foolish men take decisions they are to be held responsible for the outcome of the decision they refused to speak against.".

The wisdom of man shall fail him.

musKeeto: The true peril is having family members crushed in a building that collapsed due to structural defects. Then, you read the news and this fool is more concerned about his reputation and image. The death of hundreds is just a minor tragedy to him.

If he is not a fool at the end of the day. You become one yourself. What you need now my dear, is not the brainwashing as you'll term me in your counter response. What you need now bro, is, pray against the destructive spirit that is manipulating to ruin your life. Well, my humble prayer for you is. "Father, forgive him for he knows not what he is saying."

ClintonNzedimma:
ur post is the most logical,sensible and brilliant post on this thread but i still disagree with you concerning costa

there's nothing logical about that man. Have u forgoten Ronaldo(9) of Brasil? The true statistics only shows that anybody can win it from His natural wing. Even a goal keeper. The only thing it takes is to perform excelently in ur assigned role. If u are a striker, strike well. If u are a mildfielder, distribute well. If u are a defender, defend with the last last breath in u. And as a goal keeper, cover ur goal width like the net. And u are there. Dnt forget, Samuel Eto stole the whole show from Austin JayJay Okocha, at continental level, even in his scyntilating form as a mildfielder. BBC was so much impressed that they gave it to him. But he never collected it officially from the striker, Samuel Eto Phills.

Pes13: Check d history of ballon d'or, hw many strikers wins it?

There position are nt 2 dere advantage

U talk about assit, no coach expect assit frm his striker, only once in a blue moon, theirs is 2 finish.


past world bests are dominated by attacking midfield(R/L/C) footballers

Thats d only position that individual workrate can be 2 obvious 2 be ignore by a blindman..

Ronaldo
messi
kaka
zidane zidane
ronaldinho
even cannavaro a defender 2 mention few, none of them are strikers

suarez can fit in because suarez can play all d 4 attacking position.

U cant rule out diego costa because u can neva say if he av d potential but his position wont give room 4 dat.

U've named all the world best players that u know and concluded that there are no strikers. Ronaldo (9) of Brasil is not in the class of players to be easily forgoten man! Samuel Eto came close once with his striking role. And he also claimed African best, three consecutive times, remember.

ClintonNzedimma:
am not saying nonsense, i agree with you concerning ronaldo but hazard is not in that class of people....ask any top football analyst.

My dear stop spewing uncalculated words. U dnt have a salable opinion. Is that Hazard doesnt have dribling skills or that he doesn't score nor give assists well? Which one?

ClintonNzedimma:
DIEGO COSTA is no where near a ballon d'or.
It takes more than goals to win a ballon d'or.
Messi and Ronaldo, score provide and assist and are decisive for their national side, a player that can match them is probably match this 2 are Robben,Di Maria Neymar and Suarez.
Hazard isnt too fantastic for Belgium while Gotze is just a German Sunday Mba (a die minute fail safe)

what gave RONALDO (9) of Brasil three times balon de or?

I fore-see the majority of those calling for the head of this man of God to later come to recon with him sooner than later. For just as Jesus did not have to defend Himself before the Jews by manner of words but with actions. The world will soon know that Prophet TB Joshua is an undisputable servant of God who just like every other humanbeing, is presently seating for an exam of faith. And by the time He comes out in flying colours like Job. The Anointing will have been in double proportions. Then those who have despised him will see and know that they had no mandate to judge, nor power to pull one whom God has raised, down.

SirJohn: @topic,
Don't you think the title of this thread is misleading and dishonest? Especially when you don't have link to the source of your ridiculous claim. You say 'military' and building experts', we are interested in knowing who in the military confirmed this and which building expert. If you are not one of those who collected N50, 000 to bend the story behind this unfortunate incident then I wonder why anyone in his sane self would allude to such dishonest tale.
If you or the entire SCOAN is trying to make the world believe that the video you posted confirms a bomb explosion, then I think we a dealing with a classic case of dishonesty. If even the learned among you cannot tell why there was rapid burst of air and debris from the side of the building during the collapse then I dare say that you are all dumb.
I am definitively not one of those calling for TB Joshua's head to be put under a guillotine, I know it was an accident and it can happen to anybody prophet or no prophet. But what continues to amaze me is the reactions from SCOAN since this event chief of which is the attempt to skew the story with the most ridiculous tales ever. There's absolutely nothing strange about the collapse, so quite trying to mystify it. After all your prophet should have seen it coming.

There's no hard and fast rule to prove that he must have seen it comming. He is not God. There had been cases like that in the past, where prophets could not fore-see nor stop calamities comming upon them. For instance, Eli was a prophet who mediated between the people of Isreal and God. He was the one who told Hanna to go home that God has answered her prayers for Samuel. Yet whilst his two only sons were going to be consumed by war, an incident which also claimed his own life. Because he had heart attack after all. He could not fore-see it. And my other question remains. Why is it that all you critics have failed to ask your selves. Why haven't this building colapsed until this strange aircraft hovered no other place but on it. What was the mission of the aircraft? More over, have you ever seen a building colapsed in the manner in which that one did? Just onece. Nothing like cracks first and then, fall. Why do we always becloud our reasonings with hate. And keep seeking aguements to suport what we want to beleive. But remain completely blind to any counter aguement? With your kind of last question, if you had been available at the time Jesus Christ, you would have been among those to spit at Him and repremand Him that He saved others, why can't He save Himself. You would have been among those to tell Him to come down from the cross if He knows He is the Son of God indeed. Let us always try to be loath to find faults. For we all are imperfect beings.

Randy100: And so ? My own is that he claimed he is a seer but couldn't see his own predicament

My dear, this question is quite reminiscent of thesame question asked by the jews who nailed our dear saviour JESUS CHRIST on the cross. They said to Him. "He claimed he could save others, why can't He save Himself?" others said "if you are the son of God as you claim, come down from that cross." They spat at Him, scourged Him and insulted Him in all manner of insults but the only word He ever let out of His mouth for them was. "father, forgive them for they know not what they are doing." and I equally want to remind you here that ever since this whole saga errupted, the only words I have perceived from this man of God have been words of thanks, even to the press that have laboured hard to discredit him. The Bible taught that we shall know everyone by their fruits. Remember Jesus said. "Do not think of what you will answer or how you will defend youeself when they bring you before the authorities to prosecute you. For then, the holy spirit will answer for you. So it is not in the manner of the children of God to engage others in a war of words. Know you them from their fruits. Who would have convinced the Jews that Jesus was the son of God? If not for the signs they saw after His death. Well, to answer your question. God has not promised us that as His children, we will be free from adversities. But He has promised to see us through them all. Many other men of God in the past, suffered theirs at their own times. Job, David, eli the prophet who prophesied the birth of Samuel but could not fore-see that his two sons were going to die at the war front which also claimed his own life. Can you also remember that Moses was the man who saw God alive yet could not enter the land of Cannan. But when devil came to claim his corpse, God reprimanded him. Because he is a man of God inspite of the challenges he faced as a man. I hope you remebered that the entirity of the appostles carried out so many miracles, yet could not stop their own deaths in the hands of the mortals? Be wise my brother.

Tufiakwa!! You no see me ooo. Na madness? How can! You mean a guy wishing to be a girl, Or just a slip of tongue? Stop am oooo.

All America's effort to cripple this country must fail and we will continue to wax stronger.

So, it was all for selfish reasons after all? Can the electorate just get it. These albatros don't have a sparrow's worth of ur intrest at heart. All whatever propaganda you hear from them are mere smoke screens to put you off the scent. They are only taking out their time, watching out where their pesonal futures lie brighter.

nora544:

I feel that you are a member of this man, and it is hard when you read that he cannot heal.
I know that you are so brainwashed from all the miracles what this fake pastors preach.

Being a menber or not has nothing to do with my advice. Let us not always be quick to judgements, condemnations and critisisms. We are all at thesame level of human frailties. Only if we will always realize that no one is perfect. Even we that are trying to condemn the other person. We have maybe as very many flaws morethan the person we've tended to condemn. Then we will be more economical when it comes to condemnation and critisim. And to help you with facts. Most of our condemnations, spring from assumptions which are rarely what they seem. Before you stick to your guns and want to joy over another person's misfortune. Always remember first to put urself in that person's shoes and ask, "Assuming I am this person, and what people are assuming about me is wrong. How will I feel". Moreover, this particular issue concerns an assumed man of God. Let us remember what God did to Myriam, Moses' sister who appointed herself a council of one to condemn Moses for disobeying the law by marrying from another tribe. Eventhough it was a law unto Isrealites at that time. God visited Myriam with leprosy for condemning His anoited. Remeber, he has fore-warned. "touch not my anoited and do my prophet no harm". If you have any fear for God at all, desist from issues concerning His shephereds. Eventhough they might make mistakes just as every other humanbeing. God knows hw best to correct them. The wisdom of man is like a filty rag before God. Always pray for spirit decernment rather than condemnations. Thank you.

edogho: why waste ur time? i've seen some of his displays and i tell ya, they were really funny. like one where they were interviewing a demon!! lol. i was like wtf. very hilarious.
d pastor was like "who are u and what do u want" and d woman who was possessed by a supposed demon responded, "i am a demon of d highest order, i have destroyed d life of all d men she's laid with and i don't want her to marry or be successful". me was just laughing all through... crazy lazy lots, was all i could say before leaving mi friend's place

And u really sure u understand the things of the spirit? When Jesus met with the man with leigion, can u remember what transpired between them? Did Jesus ask him, "who are u"? What did the man with leigion answer? Have u by any means asked urself, why do those spirits tend to occupy peoples body instead of existing on their own? To help u a lil bit my brother. They do so because they dnt have there own bodies. Therefore, make use of the bodies of their victims in perpetrating their evils. The people they posses, provide them with mouth to speak. They provide them with all the diferent parts of the body to carry out their functions. Hence dear, if U hear a demon possesd person, confessing. It is not him that speaks but the spirit using him.

plaetton:

Yeah bro. I like your spirit.
We should all turn a blind eye to fraud and exploitation.
That would make a great society, wouldn't it?

If any of your family members died in that building collapse, I wonder if you would be saying same trash.

My dear, no body is above the challenges of life. Why we will want to castigate and speak against others in their own times of trials, let us also remember that thesame measure with which we measure others, same shall be opportioned unto us. I think our duty shouldnt just be, take the slightest opportunity to rubbish someone whom we have envied. If we are true xristians, we should learn to pray and love even our enemies. That was exactely what the author and finisher of our faith(JESUS CHRIST), taught us. Even, whilst he was about giving up the ghost on the cross, He looked at the people who had all these while, persecuted Him and said "father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing". That is the manner of love we were taught by His life.

kITATITA: Thanks Bayo for validating Nicholas and yourself. You guys belong to the ethical corps and shouldn't fight. I believe that the purpose of the expose is the apparent lack of respect for those that died. I too believe that the professional judgement of those who collected the money could be influenced by the gift. It's all about taking responsibility, which Synagogue apparently failed to.

Who is Nicholas and who is Bayo? Very soon, someone else will still surface with a counter claim. What a technological world.

How heavy the log of wood in peoptle's eyes. But no, it doesn't itch them. What really matters to them more, is the speck of sand in another man's. Bro. Well, among the seven gifts of the Holy spirit that I know. Criticism is not one. Why dnt you discover your calling and shine with it than waste a huge amount of effort, trying to bring down someone who has already established in his God's given talent? To be candid with you. Whom God has uplifted, no one can bring down. Focus your energy on something more profitable to you, than side talk. It only shows how insignifcantly your mind has been molded. The coverage of events are only ment for distant fibbly minded watchdogs like u. Who rearely believes anything but lies. How can you also convince the teeming population who are constantly present to witness the events life and direct. Those who needn't your kind of mischief clips to confirm the truth. Can't you see that your porpoted damage to the name of the innocent, can only succeed in spreading his fame futher than not? Go and coock up more stories with ghost names. More over, God heals who He (God) wants to heal. Bible said. I will give favour to whom I want to give favour. Dnt blame the man of God for a miracle not accomplished, he is not God. He is only an instrument. When he told you that God has not sent him to your freind whom you came with. That should have atleast confirmed to you that he doesnt brag nor take the glory for himself. That he doesnt have his own healling powers. He only waits to hear from the One who sent him before he acts. If you had little iodine in your thyroid gland. The people you claimed died after their miracles. Did you ever care to inquire the kind of life they lived after? In the bible, there were ten lepers healed. According to Jesus, where went the rest nine? For only one came seeking the healler of his ailment. Not just comfortable that his ailment has been healed and then went astray. Let me remind you something here. The reason why miracles abound with men of God is not just for their (MOG) glory. It is for the people to belive that it is God who sent them. And moreover, that that same God is capable of what He promises. But the sole target is spreading the goodnews and bringing men to God. So if in a case, you received your miracle and walk away from the giver of the miracle, the devil, might still take the better of you.

Hard hearted man. Man had to wait until his own made object proved to him the existence of God, before he could believe it. Little wonder why man who short his heart away from his creator still goes ahead to mold his own made object and worship it. We claim to be so wise yet fool ourselves in our wisdom.

purefact:

on the fact that my eye problem is because of my change of deit{drinking garri then}, and it was ok after some treatment and when i started eating real balance deit?

or that TBJ gathered over 500physicaly challenged people in his synagogue and His god of healing travalled that day and asked him to give them money just like the apostles did in the bible?

beloved, let me assume you are not aware of what TBJ is doing there, beacause if u dont have a problem like what happened to me and so many other, you will not have the opportunity of fishing his fake miracle thing.

pls try and understand me, TBJ word is God's word, but his ways {lies and deceit}of faking miracles are not from God, remember satan knows the word also, pls look beyond the word he is preaching, god bless you.

I am going to use picture illustrations by on monday, pls bare with me, i prefare youtube but i dont know how to do that.

May God help those we believe and abide with the truth, and nay he begin to expose those who want to use the word of God to decive anbybody in Jesus name, Amen, Till monday

My humble question is, why is it now that he is facing hard times like every other men of God in the Bible, that all these, tend to come out from you? Why have u kept all these long found revelations from the decieved and manipulated public till now that u think he is having hard times? Well, if I may ask. Are u equally saying that he is Anti-christ or just a makeover pastor, Who deceives people to amass his wealt? Make your point clear. And assuming I'm made to believe, he's a makeover. Sugesting from the fact that you made mention of "arranged miracles". What have u to say about the deliverances where the world watch in ernest, demons manifestations. What can u say about some prominent men. For instance, the PDP chairman from Anambra state, whose case of kidnapping, shooting and attempted assasination was a documentated fact with the police. But was rescued through the medium of the anoiting water? So u mean, all the prophecies he dispatches to hundreds of people in a day are all arranged? When actually, I do not see him carry any book of records to be able to remember the faces and respective cases assigned to each an everyone of those people? Coming to why he was giving financial aid instead of healling to the afore-mentioned handicapped. I think what u need is a nickel's worth of iodine in your thyroid gland to realize that the healling power is not his, but God's, who uses him as he wills. During the time Jesus was moving about doing miracles, delivering the afflicted and healing the sick. Did he actually heal every handicap or sick that he came across with? Some of the ones He healed were for me & you to believe that He has the power as the son of God to do so. Would you also blame him if maybe, other people received their miracle in your very presence, but yours refused to accomplish? You can solve your puzzle this way. He is not God himself! He is only an instrument used by God. Therefore does not have the power to decide who's to be healed and who not to. God in his infinite wisdom, dispatches His favours and no one can question Him. And may I remind you that by the way you have decided to betray and slender the man of God because your miracle refused to come. You have already shown why Maybe, God ignored you. Dont forget that He(God) searches through the heart of men. There are people that only come to God to recieve miracles and after that, no more with God. Always remember this. A true child of God does not judge his sonship by measure of miracles recieved. Whether or not, God opportions His favours on you. Will you always acknowledge Him as your God? Today, you reprove TB Joshua. By the time you must been to difrent other churches without your sole reason for seeking God comming forth, you'll also reprove God Himself. And to help you for that oath you had to take just drive your shallow arguments home. The Bible said. "do not swear by anything". Not even by the very hairs of your head because you can not create them. My dear, you swore by your generation. What if all you have sensed are falacies? And to get you clearer on that. You are never mandeted to be a member. It's only a choice thing. Good thing you remarked that, paying your tithe and other necesities are Biblical. As you are ment to fulfil your responsibilities in the house of God. The teaming population that fills that auditorium everyday are not all members with there so called membership cards as you want to make people beleive. I myself have been their for morethan fifteen times now, but am not yet a member. And majority of the times, I've been lucky to be inside the church auditorium. Ask for forgiveness.

The human mind is like a blank sheet being filled with informations from experiences. In the case of an atheist. They are dull minds, unable to give answers to the numerous questions from their experiences. Thereby, leaving their sheets blank. Sometimes it becomes even very dificult to convince an atheist that he is a son of his own father. Because the subconscious is empty.

Sarassin:

It is a question of perspective. State officials have already stated no permits were obtained for the additional levels on the building. You term it misfortune, I term it negligence and greed, the need to pack in more and more people, regardless of fire and safety regulations and buildings code. Recently we have seen people stampeded to death at church rallies, and others incinerated. Life is cheap in this country, and as long as there are those who will come and quote the book of Job as justification of avoidable tragedies, people will continue to die needless deaths.

Events after the tragedy, where church officials were reportedly barring emergency responders from attending to critical issues tells us, the church was interested only in salvaging its own image, even now according to newspaper reports relatives are still required to obtain permission from the church to visit their stricken relatives. This is not a test of faith, it was an act of gross negligence leading to the death of scores.

State officials have only demanded to see the documents empowering them for additional structures. They've not yet reported that it wasn't certified. Maybe at the request, due to the tensed situation, they were not able to find them immidiately. But one thing I doubt is if actually that building could ever have been under additional structures without certificate. Because, all the parties involved, are matured entities. Both the engineers and the property ownership are all aware of the implications of such an action. Morever, do you think that an errection could be ongoing in Lagos metropolis without the prying eyes of the state officials? Well, if that be the case, they too have questions to answer. Because, they are ment to be active, not reactive. It might also intrest you to know that you can hadly ecounter a story building in Lagos metropolis, that doesn't have atleast a six story building foundation. It was thus planned for future purposes. As for the rescue opratives against the church officials, it'll be pertinent to note that the shock of such an unanticipated occurence could put even the bravest of minds on the edge and perhaps compell them to behave antisocial at the onset. But I think they have given way for them after all. One thing I know of that man of God is that he is very obidient to the government of the day.

Who knows if they are the ones that masterminded the Synagogue building collapse. May be the prayers there are disrupting there activities.