₦airaland Forum

magoo10:
you that is fighting for ecological fund for governors, have you asked what has happened to all the billions that have been shared since and still many states are owing salaries the bail out funds and the Paris club funds?
bros abeg park well
the funds were shared then for states that had critical ecology problems.

that was how the same apc governors forced jonathan to share all the sovereign wealth fund.
the fact still remains that not all the PDP state got the money so it wasn't a deliberate ploy.

No, the funds wasn't share to States that had ecological issues. It was rather shared to states that were friendly to Jonathan. But if you insist I'll like you to tell me what ecological problems those states had in 2013.

I believe you don't fully understand what Ecological Fund is all about. I'm advising you go read the 1981 Act.

About the bailouts and Paris Club, you need to petition your state Governor so he can give account. FGN have little or no power to query state finances.

I'm sorry to break it to you but nobody shared Nigeria Sovereign Wealth Fund what was shared is the ECA. That issue has been settled. If the custodian of the fund is stealing it behind the shareholders, are you suggesting they should keep watching the custodian as he steals all the funds?

Somethings are just indefensible.

magoo10:
Akwa ibom state that was a pdp state was not given including fct controlled by the PDP ,read well

So? Does that negate the fact that the other 17 States, totally not in good relationship with Jonathan administration, were denied their own share?

The fact still remains that some states were denied what was rightfully and constitutionally theirs without any reasonable reasons other than politics.

Mtbail:
When a group of individual fails, they look for excuses and beat around the Bush. Mr Governor pls face ur business n leave the Central alone. When a group of individual fails, they look for excuses and beat around the Bush. Mr Governor pls face ur business n leave the Central alone.

He was appointed by the Central, NEC to be precise, to head the 11-man Ad-hoc committee on management of Ecological Fund. And now the committee just deliver their interim report. Did you even read the article?

And in case you don't know National Executive Council (NEC) includes all the 36 State Governors, CBN and others. So what's wrong with what El-Rufai did or say?

garrimallam:
I have a simple and humble Question for Nasir El-Rufai, that Goodluck Jonathan did something you considered wrong,should that be why you think your APC lead government should do the same? Is a pity d crop of leaders we have in Nigeria today is an APOLOGY. Am disappointed!!!!
Doing so make Goodluck your acclaimed Role Model period.

APC is NOT doing what Jonathan did.

Out of 36 States, 19 did not get N2b back in 2013 because Jonathan refused to give them. Now APC is giving those States what was denied them them in 2013. That's righting the wrong done, not doing something wrong.

Please always try to understand a situation properly before passing judgement.

magoo10:
deceptively false ,it is food prepared and served only for the gullible minded

Actually it is true. Let States that received the N2b back then come out and deny it. And why would Rivers, Ekiti, and Akwa Ibom which are PDP States be among the 19 States to be given their own share? To bribe them?

naijaboy756:
Later you will tell us about Buhari and how he shared bail out funds

I don't need to because you already know about that and how Buhari was fair to all irrespective of party affiliation. But in case you don't, go do little research and come back, then we can do logical comparison if you want.

MaziOmenuko:
Did you omit the part where I said that the Ecological fund was not meant to be shared by the 36 states like a federal allocation but to states prone to erosion and land slides? There was nothing to share oga, everyother thing that looks like politics to you isn't or wasn't.

Of course I omitted that part where you said Ecological Fund was NOT meant to be shared by 36 States because you were wrong. I left it so you could correct yourself. Unfortunately, you didn't.

Anyway, FYI, Ecological Fund was essentially created to ensure that adequate provisions are made to address the serious ecological and environmental problems facing the nation be it flood, coastal soil erosion, desertification, drought and general pollution issues. Every single state in Nigeria is prone to these problems.

Again, there are funds to be shared as against your assumption. The revised sharing formula is FGN - 1%, States - 0.72% and LGAs - .60%.

So, you're still either playing politics or you're innocently ignorant of the essence of the Ecological Fund as established by Federation Account Act 1981. Go check it out.

ephi123:
Jonathan = APC's one point agenda.

The right logical response is: Is the allegation true or false?

This isn't a blame game, rather righting the wrong of the past committed by a President who politicized every aspect of governance. By the way, Akwa Ibom, Ekiti and Rivers, all PDP States, will also benefit. Everything shouldn't be about politics.

MaziOmenuko:
The bolded were strong PDP states; so your story, Mr. Petit, doesn't hold water. The Ecological fund isn't meant to be shared amongst the 36 states, you should know this unless you are cunningly trying to mislead people. It is given to states that are prone to natural disasters such as erosion, landslides etc. The South East states are the highest affected states so theres no need playing politics with it.

Did you just conveniently omitted the part in the article that said: "Any PDP state that was not his friend like Kano and Kwara didn’t get it." Or was it an innocent oversight?

Jigawa State Governor, Lamido was at war with Jonathan. Rivers State Governor, Amaechi was at war with Jonathan. Kwara State Governor, Ahmed and his puppet master, Saraki were at war with Jonathan. They automatically didn't qualified for the N2b largesse even though they were back then PDP States. You can add Niger and Kano to that bolded list of yours. Same logic applies.

Ezedon:
I'm sure it was built in this APC regime

Sorry to disappoint you but it was built long before APC won Osun. So go ask your PDP how they build a seldom used pedestrian bridge that couldn't hold for 20 years.

dragonking2:
Bia presidency, explain to us why Buhari is still walking free when he supposed to be persecuted and interrogated by EFCC?

Yeah, good question.

I wondered why Obasanjo, Yar'adua and Jonathan didn't prosecute President Buhari between 1999 and 2015.

Oh, wait, I know now, because he is innocent. Duh!

And if these guys had set EFCC after him it would have amounted to 'persecution' as you rightly said. And that would have been subjugation by unjust use of their power and authority, which is illegal and dictatorial.

factsandfigures:
I listened to the press briefing organised by the president media team. I am highly disappointed in Shehu Garba and Segun Adesina. Is it that they are insensitive to what ordinary Nigerians are going through? I will advise them to take a break from ASO rock and spend a week in their respective village.
If the truth must be told, most people who readily supported PMB and APC two years ago are now highly disappointed. This is not what we bargained for and the least the president media team can do is not to insult the collective intelligence of Nigerians..........Time is no longer on APC side......at this rate the only way APC can win 2019 elections is through rigging but the resilience 0f Nigerians who are now united by hunger will shock the ruling class....

There was no Segun Adesina at that Press briefing. However there was Femi Adesina.

Also, speak for yourself you don't represent the voters that voted in Buhari 2 years ago so don't generalize your own personal feelings and perception.

Again, you're not exactly a perfect representative of the Nigerian people. If you're disappointed there are millions who aren't. From to the North to the South every single day politicians and non politicians are dropping their umbrellas and picking up brooms. And you think APC will not win in 2019. Try and understand Nigerian political landscape well.

Finally, the loud voice of the minority doesn't mean the majority has no voice. If you think Nigerians are united by hunger you don't really know the number of millionaires this government has created in the last 2 years through a single sector. You don't have an idea of how many people have been pulled up the social and economic scale through a single sector. What sector am I talking about? Agriculture of course. Go to the North. Come to the Southwest and do your research about farmers who've hit it big within the last 2 years.

So, the lesson here is don't generalize. Your feelings and what your feelers picked within your circle is NOT a representative of the whole country.

ednut1:
Make una dey deceive una self. Who go invest in Nigeria

Not you, of course. People and organizations with enough information, intelligence, and money are investing and will continue to invest. Keep your money, Nigeria doesn't need it. Better still, go invest in Zimbabwe. Nigeria needs serious investors, not kids with piggy banks.

ivandragon:
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/231205-how-i-was-kidnapped-drugged-charmed-by-boko-haram-to-become-suicide-bomber-14-years-old-girl.html


to all those supporting the FG & its twisted attempts to muddle up the Chibok saga, why would they allow a 14 year old child speak to a News Agency?

or this child does not need rehabilitation too right?

I laugh at PMB & his Social Media Id**ts...

always reasoning in askance of logic.

Never a good idea to expose your ignorance. How difficult is it to spot the difference between this child and the Chibok Girls?

Let me help you: This is a child sent on a suicide mission strapped with IED. She chicken out or maybe she got epiphany. She disobey her orders. She was then arrested (keyword: arrested). She was presented as a suspect (keyword: suspect) not as a rescued abductee. Big difference.

Simple logic. Commonsense.

PapaBrowne:
Anything Osibanjo handles is very different and professional.

Look at how the questions are dealt with without politicking that is the hallmark of Buhari and his cohorts.

For those that don't know, that Nairaland handle "presidency" is an authentic handle from the office of the VP.

Nice!

See this one. Lol.

Anything 'Presidency' starts from the Office of The President. Anything restricted to VP is addressed as 'Office of the Vice President'. Spot the difference.

But keep trying o y'all still can't put a wedge between these two gentlemen. The bond between them is too strong, it's infrangible.

Some many dumb and insensitive comments.

Anyway, to those insisting the whole Chibok Girls abduction is a scam I pray you or a member of your family will be a subject of such scam. Don't get peeved. It is after all a good prayer since the girls look 'healthy', they've had presidential handshake, they've been to Aso Rock, FGN is taking care of them and the world is following up on them. They are now 'celebrities' of sort. So you should gladly donate yourself or member of your family for such scam. You will profit from it.

To those still questioning why the girls are still been taking care of, well, maybe if you've been kidnapped or raped before you will understand the formidability of psychological and physical trauma. I once watched on Nigerian TV where a victim of kidnapping was interviewed. He's a grown-up man, with wife and kids, and he said he's still in shock and under trauma that whenever someone is coming up behind him he's always at extreme alertness and suspicious of all strangers. That's months after gaining his freedom. How long was he kidnapped? 7 days. A week. Now think of these schools girls kidnapped for 3 years.

And if you still insist it is a scam how can you intelligently explain the Stockholm Syndrome some of the girls are exhibiting as a result of the abduction? If their captors aren't taking good care of them why would some of these girls develop positive feelings towards their captors and feel allied to their causes? It's irrational. It's a paradox. Yet it's real. It happens, 8% of the time.

Put politics and hatred aside and rejoice with these girls, their families, the Chibok community, Nigerians and the world for having our girls back.

dancewith:
This is serious. Does it mean even the previously released girls are not free in the real sense of it but now in government captivity using these bogus excuses. Omg. Something isn't adding up. The world over several people have been freed from the captivity of terrorist and usually soon after they are in the news recounting their experiences. There is a saying that if it cries like an owl, flies like an owl, looks like an owl, then definitely it must be an owl.

Once you've been kidnapped for 3 years you will understand exactly what psychological trauma is all about and how long it takes to get healed of it.

82 kidnapped Chibok Girls were released by Boko Haram in exchange for some Boko Haram operatives arrested by Nigerian government. The negotiations involved the Military, DSS, Government of Switzerland and the International Committee of the Red Cross.

This was a good news to the families of these girls, the Chibok community, Nigerians and the world, well except the sadistic and unpatriotic wailers who still won't see any good thing about Nigeria.

These facinorous and unreformable souls believed it was wrong to exchange 82 schoolgirls who had been traumatized by 3 years of captivity for few Boko Haram operatives who would either be killed or recaptured sooner or later.

But let's educate these lost souls a little bit since having a druggy like Femi Fani-Kayode and a tout like Ayodele Fayose as role models and mentors is a liability on their noesis. They don't know, so it's our duty to let them know.

1. On 25 June 2006, Gilad Shalit, a Corporal in IDF's Armor Corps, was captured by Hamas. On 18 October 2011, he was released in exchange for 1,027 Palestinian prisoners. Among these 1,027 were 280 on life sentences for terror attacks and Hamas claimed these prisoners were collectively responsible for the killings of 569 Israeli civilians.

2. Robert Bowdrie "Bowe " Bergdahl, a Sergeant in the US Army, was captured by Taliban-aligned 'Haqqani Network' in Afghanistan in June 2009. He was released in May 31 2014, in exchange for 5 Taliban members held in Guantanamo Bay without trials. These 5 were high-ranking members of Taliban government were considered as 'high' risk to United States. The Taliban Five or Taliban Dream Team were described as the "hardest of the hard-core".

3. Elhanan Tannenbaum, a reserve Colonel in IDF, was captured by Hezbollah in October 2000. In January 2004, with the help of Germany mediation, he was released along with the bodies of 3 Isreali soldiers killed during an ambush along Isreali-Lebanese border in exchange for 435 prisoners held by Isreali government. Among these released prisoners were terrorists claimed to have killed 231 Isrealis.

In fact, Isreal is reported to have released over 7,000 Palestinian fighters in exchange for just 19 Isreali citizens and about 8 bodies of killed citizens.

Since prisoners exchange is NOT a new thing in war, so what's the hoo-ha from some quarters about?

And if you still think the Chibok Girls abduction is a scam ask Reno Omokri to explain to you what Goodluck Jonathan was doing between May and October, 2014 on the issue of the abduction. Could the leader of 180 million people with all the aides, information and intelligences at his disposal be scammed?

When something great happen in the country, celebrate. Stop sulking and smarting from the 2015 defeat of your "Ineffectual Buffoon" hero. It's 2 years ago, get a life and move on.

cc: Lalasticlala

emmanuelpopson:
ajaokuta was a masterpiece in steel and iron productions as at then...but 500k staff is an exaggeration or sort..I was there in 2011 and the whole equipment are in comatose and they are obsolete.. what the company can employ at a go is ~6000 direct staff and about 4000 indirect staff...
but the problem now is steel and iron are now been recycled from scrap metals and China is a leader in this aspect of trade..

With your vast knowledge of Ajaokuta and the Steel Industry, I'm surprised you're not on the board of the company or even the Sole Administrator.

TooNoisy:
This government should stop the foolish lies. Even huge organisations like Shell, GE and Total that operate in almost every country don't employ 500,000 people globally. How can a company that is not operational employ up to 500,000 people.

Unless they plan to employ ghost workers who will work from home like the president is doing.

I'm sorry but you really need to learn to read to comprehend. The article said 500,000 jobs both upstream and downstream. If you don't know what that means google it up. In addition, the article also specifically said the company will directly employ 10,000 technical staff. I'm hoping you understand what 'direct'.

Nigerian youths need to learn to read, relax digest, read again and plan an inferential contribution. Don't just jump into topics you don't even completely understand.

ephi123:
Crap.

Lol. Thank you, but that doesn't dispute the fact I posted.

ephi123:
Defend all you want but don't abuse the word leadership. Countries with true leadership are where they should be. Don't let's get things twisted.

Well, we can see where that's gotten him.

Continue the defense rather than holding leaders accountable. Goodluck to you.

I can't hold Buhari accountable for this. He's just been there in about 24 months. None of those foreign countries you use as references built what they have in 24 months. However, if you're talking about the leaders we had in the last 16 years then I agree we need to hold them accountable. But not Buhari, at least not on the issue of lack of world class hospital in Nigeria.

ephi123:
Stop turning the topic upside down. No one is debating whether presidents have privileges or not, it is obvious common sense that they do. Using other countries' facilities is not a privilege, it is a disgrace no matter how people like you try to coat it.

The question is how does it make any sense for a president not to patronize its own local goods and services?

This is where you got it wrong. If using other country's facilities will save his life and he has the privilege to use it, then there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. The death of the President have more consequences on the economy of the country than the death of another citizen. Harsh, but that's the truth. So everything, and I mean everything will be done to preserve his or her life. That's leadership.

Meanwhile don't confuse eating Ikorodu coconut instead of that imported from Bahamas with medical treatment. Big difference my dear. Consuming Made in Nigeria doesn't mean the President should unnecessarily risk his good health and life. Big difference.

ephi123:
We should blame you instead I guess. Smh.

Imagine the nonsense. Justifying a president flying overseas for treatment. So other Nigerians can die like chickens right? Because they are not the president, they are free to use crap hospitals. I know your kind.

Yes don't blame Buhari for that. And in a way you're right you can blame Nigerians that consistently kept voting the most corrupt party in the history of Nigeria for 16 years.

Meanwhile, you really don't understand the difference between rights and privileges. Yes every Nigerians have same inalienable rights to good health care for example, but we don't all have same privileges. You will be living in a fool's paradise if you think you have same privileges and entitlements as the President of a country. No my dear it is not obtainable anywhere in the world.

Go to the more developed nations, do you think the President visit same hospital as the rest of the citizens? That's the power of privileges. Even the rich and the poor don't visit same hospitals. Again, privileges (provided by wealth).

The President have planes at his disposal to travel anywhere. Do every citizen in the country have such planes at our disposal? No. Again privileges. The President of any nation moves around with stern-looking armed guards. Do you or I have such guards when we go out? No. Again privileges. The rich may be able to afford guards, but the poor can't. Again, privileges (provided by wealth).

Again in all nations of the world, the No 1 citizens of those countries have privileges the rest of the citizens don't and can't have. It's NORMAL.

TonyeBarcanista:
This sub is meant for Tinubu and his loyalists.

These Mamman Daura camp are leaving no stone unturned in their war against Jagaban and his loyalists. The only way out is for Jagaban and his people to join forces with us ahead of 2019.

Do you have to link every little pettifoggery in APC to Asiwaju Tinubu? And y'all PDP lots will claim you're not infatuated with Tinubu. You guys refused to acknowledge his enormous contributions to the ousting of Jonathan but now you're wishing he join your clan so you could win 2019. Save us the whirlwind and make up your mind already on the importance of Jagaban in Nigerian politics.

ephi123:
What is hypocritical about asking the president of a country to use the services provided by his country? Don't you guys have any sense of patriotism or dignity?

Let Buhari use the best of hospitals in NIGERIA. What is hard in that?

Your arguments do not even align at all - you are giving examples of Trump and Putin using the best facilities in THEIR COUNTRIES!! Not in West Africa or wherever else.

That's the hypocrisy I was talking about. Do Nigeria have the hospital that befits a President? No. Is it a shame on Nigeria? Yes. Does President Buhari have to pay with his life to prove a point? Of course not. If we don't have a befitting presidential hospital, the standard he could get else, does President have to refuse to go there to get well? No, expect you have myopic thinking process.

Refusing to go for the best available treatment is NOT patriotism but stupidity. As the President of a nation, agreeing to go to substandard hospital and risking your life is not dignity but stupidity. So let's not confuse patriotism with stupidity.

Let's build a world class health care system and hospitals first, so that when our leaders still opt for medical tourism we can talk about patriotism and dignity, until then there is absolutely nothing wrong in the President, the No 1 citizen of Nigeria going anywhere in the world to have the best available medical treatment.

And don't blame President Buhari for lack of such world class hospital, he's just been there for 24 months.

ephi123:
Imagine trying to justify this?

Normal practice everywhere is not EQUAL to the No 1 citizen travelling to FOREIGN countries for treatment. No sense of patriotism or dignity left amongst these people, was the NHS developed using Nigerian naira?

Leaders should lead by example.

He must receive his treatment in Nigeria. He is a Nigerian.

No, normal practice everywhere is for the No 1 citizens to have privileges other citizens don't and can't have. Why are citizens ready to take the bullets for the President? The title. The office. The privilege. No 1 citizens are NEVER same with other citizens, don't fool yourself. Yes, same inalienable rights but NOT same privileges.

Why is the US taxpayers paying for Donald Trump security and protection as he goes to his own Club at Mar-a-Lago every weekend to play golf when Camp David the usual US President country retreat is there? Privilege.

Do you think if Trump or Theresa May or Angel Merkel or Putin is sick these leaders will be attended to at the same usual hospital every other citizens go to? Of course not. These are leaders. They will get the best doctors, the most equipped hospital and the best facilities.

The question now is do we have in Nigeria the same standard of hospital that Trump will go in the US? No we don't. Do we have in Nigeria same standard of hospital Putin will be treated in if his sick in Russia? No we don't. Is it President Buhari's fault that we don't have such standard of hospital in Nigeria? Of course not because he had only ruled for 2 years and you can't have such standard of hospital befitting a President developed within just 2 years.

Let's not be myopic and hypocritical about this. If for 16 years the past administrations couldn't develop a world class hospital in Nigeria befitting a President, don't blame President Buhari's for that. You know who to blame.

wizzyrich:
doesn't he have one head like u ? Or does he have two heads ?


The word "president" is just a title. Buhari is a human being like u and I, stop treating him like a demi-god.

Actually, that title of 'President' entitled him to privileges, treatment and opportunities you and I don't have access to. These things comes with the title. We may have same rights with him but let's not fool ourselves, we don't have same privileges. It's normal practice everywhere in the world.

wizzyrich:
But Nigerians are treated hear in Nigeria, what makes Buhari different ?


Let him be treated here to see what Nigerians pass through in those hospitals.

Duh! He's the President. He's very different from you and I. You don't get to live where he lives. You don't get the security he gets. You don't have access to information he has. You don't get to make decisions he makes daily. You don't get to have respect and awe he gets. So, yes, he is a Nigerian but he is more than an average Nigerian. He's the Leader and every leader gets to be treated differently. Even the common Men of God are treated with respect and awe far above the congregation that made them who they are. It's normal. it's the same in every country, leaders are treated differently from the lead.

So yes, President Buhari doesn't have to be treated here like every Nigerians. Don't be so myopic and hypocritical.

They begged him to be free? Lol.

Macgabe:
Your question is absurd because I have already answered your question in my write up. Kindly go back, read and digest. Have a nice day!

I would have ignore your comment but I'm giving you the benefit of doubt that you don't understand my question to you. So, let me break it down to you:

You claimed that Nigerian indigenous manufacturer of Tomato Paste can't satisfy the demand in Nigeria. So, I asked you:
1. what is the value of the aggregate demand for Tomato Paste in the country?
2. What is the sum of the capacities of Dangote, Erisco, Sonia and other indigenous manufacturers?
3. What's the value of the shortfall that made you to conclude that Nigerian manufacturers can't meet Nigerians demand for Tomato Paste?

They are simple questions you could easily answer as you claimed to be knowledgeable. Enlighten me please. That's not too much to ask, or is it?

SalamRushdie:
As usual another OK policy that wouldn't work due to the lack of infrastructure...Let me just predict the outcome of this policy below

1. There will a 100 percent rise in the cost of imported tomato paste

2.Foriegn paste importation will not decrease significantly only the cost of the product will increase

3. There will be over demand initially for Dangote and Erisco paste leading to rise in the cost of locally made paste .

4 . Rise in demand of local paste will require the local tomato paste industry to scale which will lead an over demand for raw tomatoes thereby creating a scarcity for fresh Tomatoes across Nigeria

5 .As fresh tomatoes gets scarce the price become more expensive in local market which will the mean people will dump fresh tomatoes and make do with tomato paste .

6 . As more people can no longer afford fresh tomatoes opt for tomato paste Dangote and Erisco will not be able scale production as fast as is needed thereby leading to an increase in demand for foriegn tomato paste .

7. At the end of the the day there won't be significant reduction in imported paste but just a rise in the prices of local tomato paste, foriegn tomato paste and fresh tomatoes .

Do you know that Nigeria is 14th largest producer of tomatoes in the world and the largest in Sub-Sahara Africa?

Do you even know that out of the 1.5 million tonnes of fresh tomatoes Nigerian farmers produce annually 900,000 tonnes is lost to rot?

Do you know that Dangote Tomato Factory in Kano alone can produce 430,000 tonnes of Tomato paste annually? Add Erisco. Add Sonia. Add others I don't even know about.

Don't be all about glooms and disasters. Be hopeful, after all this only mean Nigeria is moving towards self-sufficiency in tomato paste as we are moving in rice and wheat.