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SMBH:
They reasons you stated are kind of flimsy

As flimsy as your attention to ass.

budaatum:
Yes you were told to do those things or yes, you read in a book that that's what you should do?

It's in the bible. Following the shepherd sheepishly. Discriminating against others etc.

Alexistaiwo, how far now?

Your boy koicereloaded believes that Margaret Thatcher was a feminist.

See the nonsense one ends up supporting when hiding behind cheap likes?

Below is a quote about thatcher and women;

KoiceReloaded:
I posted those links to make a statement. I didn't read them, cuz honestly, I was lackadaisical towards what they had to say. Mine and your links are opinions of random columnists, and only a weak minded lily would misconstrue their opinionated views for gospel truth.

Again I reiterate, posting opinion of others won't free you from the hole you have dug yourself into. Stop posting irrelevant opinion of others and instead, do an extensive research on feminism.

The end. Don't let the door hit you on your way out.

Shame.

Anyone that has reas what we both posted knows that you are the one that needs to read further on feminism.

My links represent the opinions of numerous respected feminists who base their opinions on logic. Your opinion is supported by your own imagination.

budaatum:
Did you read in the Book to do the things you did or were they things you were told to do?

Yes.

ornicus:
Was going to warn you not to have anything to do with that thing or monikers by the name of JeromeBlack. Simple way to identify - a poser trying to come across as intellectual

Abeg, go and chase women's panties. That is your destiny.

Thegamingorca:
Oh I've had a talk with the cunt too before. On his main you'll see where he created a gaming forum topic to shame sosogames.

I'm just interested in the babe he is using as dp on this account if she's available. The mumu is somewhere in Sweden so he claims living the life of a student migrant.

I know him for being an idiot. It's normal. I just want fvck that girl

Sweden?

Are you mad? I have never been to Sweden in my life.

KoiceReloaded:
Sharrap, posting opinion of others won't free you from the hole you have dug yourself into. I merely countered with links of mine to prove to you that posting links is easy. They were merely the opinion of others, and don't in any way undermine what I said.

Go to wikipedia and read up on Feminism, after which, do your research on empowerment of women.

You are the one in a hole. Your links do not in any way support what you said. In fact, one of them even contradicts what you have said.

The irony of you telling me to read when you clearly did not even know what the bechdel test was.


Alexistaiwo, can always hide behind your monumental ignorance on this feminist issue.

Thegamingorca:
Ild love to have at the girl.

Get a life.

KoiceReloaded:
Links explaining why Margaret Thatcher should be considered a feminist.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/what-to-read/last-feminist-admits-mrs-thatcher-marvel/

https://www.hks.harvard.edu/publications/giving-margaret-thatcher-feminist-cred-she-deserves-and-would-have-hated

A link explaining why the notion of a feminist housewife is ridiculous.
https://jezebel.com/the-feminist-housewife-is-such-bullshit-5991343

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/21/world/europe/21iht-LETTER.html

I did not know that you were this shameless

1. Both your links relating to Margaret Thatcher do not say that she is a feminist. Their titles even give further to imply that most feminists do not rate her. Worst, is that your links are both abstracts: one for a book and the other, for a journal.


2. Your link to New York times does not argue that feminists cannot be housewives

3. Shameless again. This is with regards to your Jezebel link about housewives. Even your own link states that feminists can be housewives.

Check the quote below

Thegamingorca:
Ahh she's hot. Where is she based?

Are you related to Ornicus?

pryme:
Ahem...

How does a guy with hairy balls decides to front like a female (f) on social media, doesnt it makes you sick to your stomach that guys maybe shoving their diicks in your DM becuase of the name on your moniker?

dont you think its better to start the prospect of entertaining multiple diicks on a honest note? at least this can separate the straight(s) from the faggs (sorry - the chaffs).

I only use this moniker to debate. It is not like I use it for dating.

Please, how is it affecting your life?

DandeNumeruno:
jeromeblack so you never retire this your born2freak transvestite moniker ehn

Transgender, actually.

And no, it is just a moniker that helps me escape bans

budaatum:
And you did those things you claim religious people did?

Yes, some of them

I must bow out now.


But my pity goes to Alexistaiwo. Koicereloaded on the other hand, reflects on his position. He might be arguing one way but in the long run, he will do the research.

Alexistaiwo hardly improves. He just serves on the whims of better men. SAMWELL TARLY

Cc alexistaiwo ati koicereloaded

Here is an explanation of how the original Charlie's angel was sexist (not feminist) despite having three strong female leads.


This is from themarysue, a feminist geek website.

alexistaiwo:
JeromeBlack goes to school

Please, read about the bechdel test and get back to me

KoiceReloaded:
So you're still going on about this, something I had forgotten. You're so wrong on the bolded though. Seems you don't know what feminism is all about.

The whole point of feminism is to fight for parity for women. To empower women to do more within the society, to be part of decision making process that they are previously denied. Feminism is not willing to be a second class citizen because of your gender. Feminism is the process that engenders power in women over their own lives, society, and in their communities. Women are empowered when they are able to access the opportunities available to them without constraints, and restrictions such as in education, profession and lifestyle.

Being a housewife or a "damsel" (whatever that signifies) undermines the very essence of feminism. A housewife is someone who is willing to be an object for their husband's gratification. A willing housewife is not a feminist for the fact that she doesn't want to be empowered. She doesn't want to be part of a decision making process. Feminism is not for all women, because not every womon has the compulsory qualities needed to procure enlightenment.

Pertaining to your number 2, I concur that a female lead can be anti-feminist, which is why I emphasized "strong" in the "strong female lead". Some female leads are just there to promote misogyny and the misconceptions that women are dumb. These female leads are the antithesis of strong, and you're liable to find them in B-horror movies.

Margaret Thatcher was a feminist, even if she didn't know it. The first female UK prime minister, she reached the apex of political potency, and had men quaking in their boots. She was nicknamed the "Iron Lady" for a reason, you know? Thus, tagging her anti-feminist doesn't make any sense. It's ironic.

You should read more on the subject, and stop this Bechdel test bullshit. That shit doesn't factor in here.

Hilarious.


Let me just point out where you are wrong for posterity sake. Here is a list of your working notions.


1. A housewife cannot be a real feminist.

2. The bechdel test is irrelevant in determining a feminist movie.

3. Margaret Thatcher was a feminist.

4. A strong female lead guarantees a feminist movie.


Here is the Guardian uk (a British newspaper) arguing that Margaret Thatcher is not a feminist
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/apr/09/margaret-thatcher-no-feminist

Here is the uk independent explaining why feminists do not like Margaret Thatcher
https://www.indy100.com/article/womans-hour-margaret-thatcher-feminist-bbc-response-twitter-8896286?amp



Here is something you should read up on feminism and being a housewife (it is a bout the freedom of choice. Being a housewife is okay as long as it is a choice)
https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/274184/

alexistaiwo:
KoiceReloaded, hope you are being handsomely remunerated for taking JeromeBlack to school?



No free lunch in Freetown

You exposed your biased hand too soon.

Typical Nigerian ignorance. You dont know the facts of the case but you must support the guy that you like.


Ogbeni, first Google what the bechdel case is. That is even the first step in assessing feminist media.

Secondly, if you had any sense, you would understand that koicereloaded's whole premise is wrong- having a strong female lead does not mean that a movie is feminist.

Here are the reasons why.

1. Not every woman is "strong". A very big misconception of feminism is that it advocates for strong women. Some women enjoy being housewives, some women enjoy being damsels. What matter is that they are given a choice and opportunity to achieve their goals. Feminism is intersectional. Feminism is for all women.

2. A strong female lead can be an anti-feminist herself. Take Margaret Thatcher. A prime minister. A strong woman who was at odds with with women's rights. A movie with her as the central figure wouldn't be feminist if it focused on her policies. Also note that she was surrounded by men in the parliament. Bechdel test might not even work here. Theresa May is another example self.



I rest my case. Anyone who wants to learn will learn.



Cc koicereloaded ati dannykoice

budaatum:
If you insist. Though, since you aren't religious, I assume, I wonder how you know what religious people do. Did you get your "what they do" from your personal experience perhaps?

I was religious before......

DannyKoice:
Yeah, in yourself.

Asked you to tell me the characteristics of feminism, and all you got is an incomprehensible text about a bechdel test and some other irrelevant shit. Trying to complicate a very basic topic won't make you woke.

You ought to be very disappointed in yourself indeed.

You are speaking out of hardcore ignorance. The first step in deciding how feminist (or better, how much women are involved in the dialogue/script) a movie is, is by trying out the Becthdel test.

DannyKoice:
No offense, but you're not making much sense.

Everything I said is backed up on the web.

A feminist is a strong and independent woman that is capable as well as she is self-reliant.

A feminist movement is a movement advocating for equal rights for women.

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A feminist movie in the simplest term, is a movie that pushes the theme of female empowerment to the frontline.

I'm truly disappointed.

budaatum:
If you believe what you posted is what worshipping God means, then yes, atheism is far much better.

Thankfully, the below is not what most do in their religion so can not be reasons to turn from theism.

It is what they do. Stop living in denial.


Prosperity preaching, mind control, discrimination etc

DannyKoice:
Please, tell me what feminism entails?

Feminism is the advocacy for equal rights for women. It takes many forms.


A movie is feminist if

1. It discusses central feminist issues

2. It subverts sexist cliches

3. It passes the bechdel test

4. As a subset of number 2, it has to be a good movie. Female driven movies were rubbish and few.

DannyKoice:
A female lead with a strong personality.

Strong personality = feminism?

Smh. You are losing your touch.

DannyKoice:
A film can have a female cast and not be feminist, but a film is feminist if the lead (protagonist) is a female character with vigorous characteristics. Understand the difference.

What do vigorous characteristics have to do with feminism?

Budaatum, how far?

Do you agree with the reasons to be an atheist?

DannyKoice:
As regards the bolded, technically, every movie is a cash grab, some just do it better than others.

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A film that has strong female lead(s) is always going to be pro-feminism, it's inevitable... It doesn't matter the genre or premise, the overarching theme that will invariably shine through is thus; what a man can do, a woman can do it better... A woman can be stronger and more astute than a man, and so on.

If you're going to reprehend Charlie's Angel (2019) for promoting what you dubbed "fake feminism", then you may as well paint all the other films that have strong female leads with the same brush, including Anna (2019) that you loved so much.

Charlie's Angels suffer from poor script, mediocre directing, and editing amongst other things, not because it promoted fake feminism. In an alternate settings, it would be a masterpiece.

Let me repeat myself

Born2Freak:
A movie isnt feminist because of its cast.

It would do you well to understand the meaning of feminism.

DannyKoice:
I never said you supported Charlie's...

My point is, as a "woke niggah", you shouldn't be slating Charlie's Angels for "fake feminism".

Charlie's Angel franchise wasn't a recent phenomenon, you know? The 2019 edition was but a 3rd installment of a reboot of the original Charlie's Angels films that started and ended before you were born. If the principal theme was feminism, then it ain't fake.

For the fact that you slated it for "fake feminism" when the feminism ain't fake, has clearly called your so-called "woke(ness)" into question.

I know the history of Charlie's Angels. The original one was a classic.

However, this 2019 Charlie's Angels is nothing more than a cash grab on a once popular movie franchise.

A movie isnt feminist because of its cast. In fact, there is a whole feminist literature that criticizes capitalism. Using feminism as a marketing tool is wrong. Why not be fair to women for the reason of fairness and not for profit? Be good for goodness sake.

0ppa:
I was Catholic. Refrain from typing ignorantly. Catholicism is the base of false worship.

The same catholic church that compiled the very bible that you are using?

DannyKoice:
I was merely using your "woke(ness)" against you. You said you're a woke niggah, and yet, you were the first to shade Charlie's Angels on the account of it's female main cast. Wonder if you would have done the same if they were male? Double standards?

When did I support Charlie's Angels?

armadeo:
Lol. What were they thinking.

I knew it would flop hard the minute I saw the trailer. I thought " ohhh no not again".

Lazy producers. They thought that feminism sells movies. No. A good script, good plot and good casting sell a movie. Feminism should just be a by-product