₦airaland Forum

There is no need of arguing on this issue. When Goverment came out to tell nigerians that there is no need for goverment to manage coys that no need for goverment to be in business, you dont need your brain to know that such government lacks the idea to even manage the people he rules, infastructures and create amenities.
Sometimes we play dumb even when we see the handwritting on the wall clearly.
if you cant manage the resources and infectively utilize them then you have no business being in government. the motives behind BPE, selling of infrastrutures to people that cant even sit and think of setting up there own is the dumbest thing in the world. Yet even literates begin to argue as if their brains as vapourized.
ANy leader that believes in privitizing his properties and can not manage them well is not fit to be a leader.

An effective leader manages and optimizes any and every available resources within his disposals.

It is the Greed at the eyes of our leaders that makes them to sell the properties to themselves and families that can manage it well.

For example when and Operating system is built round one function or application without flexibility to other applications , it fails and it becomes obsolete with time no matter the strength of technicalities of the OS.

Nigeria problem is not with the system but those operating the system. it is built by our leaders around theirselves.

Our leaders do not know any operating system of government they are just concerned with looting for there children, children's children and children children children, political fathers and fatherares, god and devil fathers etc.
Its disheartening.

Communism, capitalism, socialism, federalism etc systems are not the problem, the problems are the people operating the system. if you try any system outside Nigeria, it ill work but inside Nigeria it will surely fail.
Why? Nigerians build the system around thereselves, friends, political members and families not studying the intricacy of the environment and the people, and this will surely fail. But when a system is built to have colossal and formidable structure having the generality of the people in mind will surely last and work even though it mail fail, but ultimately will rise again.

E.g- Nigeria senate will only make laws btw 1 week that will enrich their pockets, but will take 2 terms ( 8 years) on a law that will touch peoples life and strengthen the system.

Every known economic system that has worked in other countires when same brought to Nigeria will not work again. WHY? Because it would have been hijacked by some one that will change and change it to suit only his family system and political affiliates. its BAD.

COMPATRIOTS THIS IS THE TIME WE MUST RISE UP WITH OUR VOICE TO DEMAND THE DEATH OF A NOBLE MAN THAT WAS KILL UNJUSTLY TO BALANCE THE EQUATION, BY OUR FRAUDULENT LEADERS WHO GO AROUND FLAUNTING THE WEALTH AND RESOURCES OF THIS NATION. ENOUGH OF ABUSING EACH OTHER ON THIS TREND LET US RISE ON THIS ISSUE WITH OUR COMMENTS AGAINST TYRANCIES THAT USES INNOCENTS' BLOOD FOR THERE SELFISH ACT.

HOW LONG WILL THIS EVIL PERSIST,HOW LONG WILL JUST BLOOD CRY FOR VENGENCE ON THIS LAND, WE PRAY MORNING AND AFTERNOON, YET THE VOICE OF THE JUST BLOOD SPEAKS AGAINST THIS LAND BECAUSE OUR LEADERS ARE UNREPENTANT. AND THEY STILL RESPECT AND CALL THEM FOR FUNCTIONS AND CEREMONIES EVEN IN OUR WORSHIP CENTERS, WITH THE BLOOD STAINS OF INNOCENT NIGERIANS (OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS DURING THE JUNE 12 CAMPAIGN), ON THERE HANDS. FELLOW REPUBLIC OF NAIRALAND WE MUST RAISE WITH OUR VOICE( WRITINGS) AGAINST THIS ACT OF ANTI-HUMANITY.

@ FEBUP

how many people are faithful, are you also faithful febup? God has bless this country with alll blessing in natural, human, soil- our soul yields throughout the year with differnt crops, yet we suffer. because we are not faithful and we are not serving God in truth.

secondly how many of our leaders know God and serve him in truth, the problem is not the church but the society.

@Ogajim

2 tim 3:16-17

All scriptures, every part, every word was through the inspiration of God and was written to all children of God including me. I dont know about you. so that we might be perfect in all good works.

I was fed and am always fed thrugh the Holy spirit every day. because i want to know more about God. Its a sweet experience.

@ bunmioguns

that was a very good reply. ibelieve people needs to know that God is greater that all what we have.
Solomon Gave more than what was required of him to God( was it dirrectly to God's hand or he went visiting God, no) but to God's house and God blessed him beyond every riches on earth even today no body was as rich as he was.

These issue of tithing as generated a lot of arguement expecially from those that dont want to give, looking out for scrpitural refrencces to quote to suit there own ego.
Whether you give or not, God's church can never go begging.

@ dramenda
Your issue was like that of the pharisees whenn they came to jesus asking him why he should heal on the sabath day. he answered them that how many of them that have a donkey that enter a ditch on the sabath and will leave it to die, they never reponded and they went away.
let the spirit of the lord direct you to do that which is pleasing in the sight of the lord without robbing him and care for the need.

@ texazzpete
there is different btw tithes, offerring and free gift offering. Mind you i didnt quote onlt Malachi.

No part of the bible can be interpretted or treated in isolation for proper understanding.

Concerning the sacrifice you mentioned- pls read roman chapter 5,6,7,8-it will tell you why christ have come to redeem man from sacrifice from the burnt offerings.
the old testament to the new is like a revised edition. you can not trow it away you must make referrence to it, if you have study any course on documentation (QMS) of project management.
Our God is God of Yesterday , Today and Tomorrow-Heb 13:8. God is not just God of tommorrow, is that not funny
His words are new every morning

Dear friends these last days the devil is bringing alot of Doctrine into and from the fold of christ to derail men from the truth.

Paul warned timothy to be weary of false teachers, that claim to know the truth, but are thinking of what there belly desires, he said He should hold fast to his faith.
Old or Now. Tithe is mandatory. its better we pay now, than begging to pay it when its to late.

There are somthing that might be to late to correct when you get to heaven.

@garyarnold

Please read your bible telling the holy spirit to givr you devine interpretation not what you want.

Deu 14:22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
Eph 4:11-12 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

Pastors are God's representative on earth and they are ordained as priest as of old, they are also reffered to as priest.
Pls check the dictionary meaning of pastor and priest.
They have the right too collect the tithes becaus ethey are the Head of the Body of Christ "church"- Revelation.

Leave the Judgement to God to decide what to do wit them even if they steal from God.
You are n ot perfect too. Are you?

2Ch 31:5  And as soon as the commandment came abroad, the children of Israel brought in abundance the firstfruits of corn, wine, and oil, and honey, and of all the increase of the field; and the tithe of all things brought they in abundantly.

Deu 14:28  At the end of three years thou shalt bring forth all the tithe of thine increase the same year, and shalt lay it up within thy gates:

Please when you give unto the lord do not give grudgingly, dont think about what the man of God wants to do with it. have it in mind that you are giving as on to the lord, and the bible says that the lord that sees you secetrely will reward you openly. note God is never begging for your money.

@ free indeed- why do you turn your bible upsidedown when reading, there is no portion of the bible that says you should discard the old testament- Jesus says He as not come destroy that which was said in the old convenant but through it the new might be fufill, so what about all the prophesies God told in the old convenant and are still going to come to past.
Heb 13:8- He is the same lord yesterday, today andd forever.
We have a lot odf doctrine that the Devil is bringing in now, different from what christ preaches in these last days

Deu 14:22  Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
Because they were predominantly farmers, shephards, fishermen and warriors as of old so they can only quantify things in that other. But for now our income is our produce.

live the men of God to do anything with it, because they will be judge accordingly

Malachi 3:8-10. - Please dont rob God.

MUST TIMES, PEOPLE DONT HAVE GENIUNE REASONS OF PICKING UP HABITS. COMPLEXITY, FRIENDS AND THEY WANT TO FEEL AMONG, THEREFORE STARTS TO KILL THERESELVES EVERYDAY.
I AM LIVING THE MOST HAPPIEST TME OF MY LIFE. I DONT DRINK, SAVES ME ALOT OF COST, AND I USE MY TIME WELL. ITS PAYING OFF. I LOVE I I DONT BURN MY LIVER, DOCTOR SAYS VERY HEALTHY THE LAST TIME I DID MEDICAL CHECK-UP

I BURIED A COUSIN LAST WEEK, DIED FROM LIVER RELATED DISEASE, THE DOCTOR SAYS THE CAUSE WAS ALCOHOL.
BEFORE HE GAVE UP THE GHOST, HE SAID IF HE HAD KNOWN HE WOULDNT HAVE TASTED IT THAT FIRST DAY.
IT GAVE HIM ALOT OF PROBLEM, TOUGH TIME, HIS LIVE WAS IN SHAMBLE DURING THESE PERIODS, BEFORE HE GAVE UP.
PLS DO NOT QUIT NOW LET IT BE WHEN YOU HAVE LIVER PROBLEM THEN IT WILL HELP YOU TO QUIT.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH YOU ARE ASKING AGAIN AND AGAIN?

IT CAN KILL, KILLS, KILLING. SOMEONE MAY TURN MAD LIKE MARADONA WITH COKE

Athough there are no excuse ffor any man whosoever, whatsoever to lay a finger on a lady but think about this, your wive is insultive at any slightess provocaton. spends a decade in the salon, the house unkept, she likes going visiting even when the time comes for the man to eat. She says i working too even when times come to spend with the family, she doesnt respect her inlaws.what could be so "bader" or worst than that.

When the bible says two are better than one, says a lot of things especially if they take time to be humble and reason together. No mariage is made from heaven but two people can make there marriage like heaven.
It takes a well trained career woman to be humble and respectful for her to keep her home. Our mother went through alot from our father but still they endurer pray and were humble so they are happy now.
Must men make a lot of mistake going for beauty, celebrities and well to do ladies because they believe they can get someting in return noot knowing that you dont stay in the house even with the niceist beast.
It is not all women that respect the pride of marriage they believe when there is problem, i frustrate the man and he pushes me out of the house, people will blame him because they wont ask what the woman did. Must quiet easy going Men have been turn to touts in there own homes and they few that likes no wahala had being turn to dumbs, dundy or slaves.

THE DOCTRINE DOES NOT TEACH, PREACH CHRIST, HOLY SPIRIT BAPTISM.

IF YOU ARE A GOOD BIBLE SCHOLAR, YOU WILL SEE A LARGE DIFFERENCE AND THE SECRETE OF THERE DOCTRINE IN THESE LAST DAYS.

THE DEVIL SOMETIMES GIVE SOME ILLUSIVE INTERPRETATION OF THE BIBLE TO SIFT MEN AWAY FROM THE DETAIL KNOWLEGDE OF CHRIST. DOCTRINE SEEMLY LIKE THE TRUE MESSAGE BUT NOT OF CHRIST.-2 TIM 3: 5

@ MBULELA.

THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION.

THE BIBLE SAYS BY THE FRUITS OF A TREE YOU KNOW THE TYPE OF TREE.

YOU CAN NOT SEE THE CHILD OF A KING I WILL NOT RECOGNISE HIM. EITHER BY DEFAULT OR ERROR.
1 JOHN 3 : 24- YOU KNOW.

THE SURE WAY YOU CAN RECOGNISE A FAKE PRODUCT FROM ORIGINAL IF YOU OPEN YOUR EYES VERY WELL

@ OP

I DOUBT IF YOU ARE FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT JUST A REGULAR CHURCH GOER AT RCCG.

THE QUESTION YOU ARE ASKING AND THE MIDDLE STAND OF YOUR VIEW I BELIEVE YOU ARE NOT A TRUE BELIEVER OF CHRIST AND NOT HOLY SPIRIT FILLED.

WHEN A TRUE SPIRIT FILLED CHILD OF GOD TEACHES ON SOME REALITY AND ASK QUESTION ON THE SOME MISERIES OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD ONLY TAUGHT BY HOLYSPIRIT YOU WILL KNOW IT.

THE SAME STAND POINT YOU ARE WAS WERE I WAS 6 YEARS AGO BEFORE I REDEDICATED MY LIFE TO CHRIST FULLY AND EXPERIENCE HOLSPIRIT BAPTISM.

@ OP

LET ME ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THERE BELIEVE?

1. WHY DONT THEY PREACH JESUS CHRIST WHY KINGDOM? MAT 28: 18, ACT 5 :42
2. WHY DONT THEY PREACH SALVATION KNOWING FULLY WELL THAT THE FULCRUM OF TALKING TO PEOPLE LIES ON SALVATION-MARK 16:15
3. APART FROM THE BIBLE HOW MANY MISERIES OF GOD, CHRIST, AND HOLY SPIRIT DO YOU KNOW?
4. WHY DRUNK WITH WINE INSTEAD OF BEING DRUNK WITH THE HOLYSPIRIT. EPH 5 :18, TITUS 1:7. 1 TIM 3:3
5. WHY NOT START WHEN THEY PRAY WITH THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST KNOWING FULLY WELL THAT THE BIBLE SAYS , THAT HE (GOD) HAS GIVEN US A NAME MORE THAN EVERY OTHER NAME. AND THAT HE HAS EXALTED IN MORE THAN, MAT 28:18.

@ femoo.

I REJECT IT FOR THE OP IN JESUS NAME.

READ YOUR BIBLE VERY WELL . NOBODY AS APPOINTED YOU AS A JUDGE OVER ANYONE. THOU SHALL NOT JUDGE.
HE WHO THE SON OF GOD AS SET FREE HE IS FREE IN DEED.

ANY DOCTRINE THAT FORCES THINGS ON YOU, ITS NOT OF GOD, WE DON'T LONGER LIVE BY THE LAW, BUT THROUGH THE LIFE WE HAVE IN CHRIST JESUS WE MAKE ETERNAL LIFE. THAT IS THE ASSURANCE WE HAVE IN JESUS.

IF ANY DOCTRINE BINDS YOU, AND DOESN'T TEACHES JESUS CHRIST AS THE LORD AND SAVIOUR THEN IT IS A DECEIT, AND HOLY SPIRIT THAT WILL TEACH YOU ALL THINGS THAN ITS FROM GEHENNA.
IF GOD IS OPENING YOUR EYE TO SEE THE TRUTH YOU ARE READY TO BE ET LOOSE.

Odiaero i love your point

Pathetic, an average Nigerian do not get the concept of anything before losing the primary value.

Different post everyday, hour, minute, different reactions, different ideology, different approach but some school boys sees it as opportunity to create a sense of humour through it yet, the value is sharing ideas contributing to the mental development and equipping our information base knowledge, thereby creating a broad base network of people that knows that things can be done in the right other. I have gained alot through different post from my fellow brothers and have seen the way they will react to sensitive issues. this will help me alot in adding value back to life and Nigeria.

If we want people that means alot in this nations to view our post and see what we go through everyday passed through different post i believe we need to be serious and write more of constructive things through this post if we want things to take a good shape.

Apart from jokes and information shared. i am proud that we have sensible, equipped and brilliant Nigerians that there mental contributions to sensitive topics broadens and add to once understanding of critical issues.
Sound ideologists have dissected issues that are mind blowing and i believe that this fellows of nairalanders will not dissapoint this floor when they have the opportunity to take the helms of affair of our great country Nigeria.

I have alot of friends that were JW when in school.

They have sex together so far is btw themselves it was not a sin. They have a kind of mentality, they wont give you somethings if you are not there members.
I also have a family friend that started just like they way you want to start. They woman actually left JW to join this bros after 25 years (5 children) the woman said that it is time for him too to join her JW. The bros now Man was confuse and never believed what he heard. As this time of typing, the woman no longer cook, do hmnnnn, and other marital responsiblities the man no longer go to church,just wakes up every morning roams around the estate trying to gather his pieces of life together.

Marriage is more than Poker and Baba Ijebu

You have to understand that Believe plays a major role in the concept of marriage. you said you are compatible, how? For just one month, you must be a joker. if your believe is different then you are not compatible, only we tend to see the shadow first in relationship than the true image because our insight is clouded by our emotions.
JW is just like a cult that does things among themselves, that only can be permitted by members alone. though they profess to be Christian and preach about the kingdom of God, but a closer look into there doctrine do not believe the true concept and believe of the bible.

Know this.

The Devil and God Knows your dreams.

The Devil will use what seemly looks Good to trade your Vision and the mandate of God for you. Once traded you are doomed, frustrated and confuse without no direction again.

Samson saw true love and he believed that he was compatible with Delilah, But Delilah being a Jehovah witness in this case will want you to leave your calling, vision, dreams , mandate for a long life regrets. Samson lost everything because of the shadow he saw. in the name of true Love

Son, run when your Legs are still very strong to do so.