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Leave the poor boy alone, he has not read and understood the bible from all his arguements. He doesn't even know and understand his life and purpose rather than claiming he has read the bible. Go and read the bible again instead of doing copy and paste from the internet and displaying ur folly.

This is research and development in a foreign institution. Nigeria institutions are only known for strikes, handouts, lecturers known for not coming to class and only copy projects from the internet.

Pastor Kun: You fail to realise the level of havoc this false tithe doctrine is causing in the church today. In the time of Jesus he expressed his anger by physically assaulting those who turned religion into a money making venture like tithe preachers today. So our open rebuke still falls below Christ's standard going by scriptures.

. So if you were in Christ's shoe on that night at the garden of gethsemane you would have encouraged peter to fight on. Learn and study more about christ.

frosbel: last time I checked Jesus was not gentle towards those who turned his fathers house into a den of robbers.

. But the church is not your own father's house, leave it to him. It takes the Holyspirit to convince a man not frosbel. We state our facts and prayerfully do the rest, if we don't have hidden agenda.

frosbel: What is insulting about exposing the TRUTH. Do you even know what an insult is ?

And yes, I have raised articles on the gospel and other Christian topics, but Nigeria is plagued with churches which are more like scam centers than places of worship and it is an urgent mission of ours to speak the truth and expose them with the objective to set captives free from the clutches of these people.

What is the point of getting millions saved when they end up getting trapped in these centers for deception.

. If you are truely led in your course by the spirit of God there are proper and orderly ways of doing things that will not portray the qualities of the spirit of anger, disrespect, disaffection, ungentleness which are the spirit of the lastdays. I believe you need more of the infilling of the spirit of God if you are truely Born again

frosbel: what can be worse than insulting the children of God by telling them they are under a curse for not giving you and your MOGs their HARD EARNED MONEY.

Nothing beats this wickedness, that's why i will not join this discussion . I have no patience with ANYONE who peddles the GOSPEL for MONEY.

. If your assumed anger is most genuine I believe the passion should be tailored more to winning and converting perishing souls to the Kingdom of God, but you seldom do that. Instead you result into insulting Men of God you had not called nor creat in the name of fighting for God as the hallmark of the pharisees. Table your facts humbly and with meekness the qualities of the spirit of God

POPE II: there was a record of her dying right? Smh4u , Mary didn't. Die she is alive and ascended in the heaven. Mary is the queen of heaven, what's wrong with you and this blasphemous post?

. Was there any record that Joseph died? Where was it on record she didn't die? How was she ascended to heaven? - give me referenced. facts from the Bible (word of God) not story

Oh my God its awesome. 30% covering life in Isolo, Lagos.

It has started 20% covering

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Funny, your naration was humorous. Mine happened at the then Garden of Eden hostel around Pacific Hostel opposite Soun High school (forgot the area) ogbomosho, 12 years ago. One was caught and was delt with.

Funny, your naration was humorous. Mine happened at the then at Garden of Eden hostel around Pacific Hostel opposite Soun High school (forgot the area) ogbomosho, 12 years ago. One was caught an was delt with.

I am still looking for something coherent from someone whose research should be taken serious by sensible people.

Beautifully done. You shall know the truth and the truth shall set u free. Christ quoted the old testaments in the synagogue and doing his 40days temptation. It was compiled in scrolls (bits of the old testaments) then and kept in the temple and wasn't by the Catholics.

This Friday? At Apapa port? I work at Tincan I don't see any rail laid close to Apapa port terminal. From PTML Grimaldi jetty to maersk Jetty even around Liverpool area.

Maybe off Apapa port.

@ Bidam,

I must confess, you have out-rightly taught and done everything one should know on the teaching of speaking in tongues. I have picked some few and added some knowledge also. I will like to tell you that contrary to some objections and views here, I will confidently say, they come from the lack of the touch or personal/ close experience of the said topic and they will rather take it by the letters and mere personal head knowledge and interpretations.

Things of the Spirit as I will always tell those that care to listen is best explained when you have a personal or close experience that is, if you truly and keen to experience it.
Let me share first from my mum's experience.

Then I had known my mum to be a Christian for more than 20 years, she observed to detail everything the religion preaches, but several years ago we were under a ministration and the topic was on the Holy spirit and she was so surprised that truly she was not a born again Christian(though she works fervently in the church). She gave her life with all soberness and she signified after a while for the Holy spirit baptism. She didn't received it that day despite her zeal and hunger.

We were a the family night devotion one day before things changed. Instantly we didn't known what came in on her, she broke down in tears and began to pray in an unknown tongues. The atmosphere was filled instantly and revelations that was hidden and unknown to the family for several years came out from her and we prayed to the following day although some of us fell asleep when she continued. She received a boldness that she had never experienced before even going out to pray for the sick in the neighborhood and God really answering her prayers. Up till this moment she is known as the praying woman in the family and in the neighborhood. That was my close encounter with the holy spirit baptism and speaking in tongues.

philfearon: And ur church is?

My faith is built on nothing less
Than Jesus Christ, my righteousness;
I dare not trust the sweetest frame,
But wholly lean on Jesus’ name.

On Christ, the solid Rock, I stand;
All other ground is sinking sand,
All other ground is sinking sand.

italo: How is it idol worshipping?

Am not interested in letting you see the truth because it is obvious from all your comments from the past three days, that you adored and will do anything and everything that will uphold your religious inclination even if not from the WORD of God and are based on man's originated doctrines and lies. Ask the spirit of God, remove religious blindness and go into the presence of the Lord in truth and in Spirit. Leave all this relics and etc it wont guarantee your Holiness and righteousness without which NO ONE shall see the LORD.

philfearon: But none of ur write ups said "WORSHIP"..,.I only saw "VENERATE"...Why put Worship now?

Why do people always find ways to accommodate and tolerate cornily things that are glaringly wrong to paint it as right.

You don't have to see it in the write-ups, what do you see in the pictures? See dictionary meaning of worship

]wor·ship
[wur-ship:
Show IPA noun, verb, wor·shiped, wor·ship·ing or ( especially British ) wor·shipped, wor·ship·ping.

noun
1.
reverent honor and homage paid to an image, figure or a sacred personage, or to any object regarded as sacred.

2.
formal or ceremonious rendering of such honor and homage: They attended worship this morning.

3.
adoring reverence or regard: excessive worship of business success.

4.
the object of adoring reverence or regard.

This is the height and peak of IDOL worshiping. The devil's antics, he paints things to look as its real and from God to deceive those that are not led by the spirit of God. This is never the message of Christ, this is never what Christ told us to do. Surely this is not of God or from God, its pathetic, discouraging and disappointing.

ayenny02: STORY! STORY!! STORY!!!you are invited to know maybe the Bible is contradictory or not
https://www.nairaland.com/1337631/book-god-what-happened
If you don't have any reasonable thing to say you better go sit down for reserve CHAIR and continue to watch the game

@Ayenny02

It is so obvious that the reason you opened this thread was not to learn, know or understand but to ridicule and show your absolute ignorance on the subject matter, despite tons of explanations and facts at your disposal.

What you feel or think can not change what happened thousand years ago and will not shield the wise away from the truth. This thread will die its natural death achieving- you getting more confused and showing people your level of intellectual comprehension on the thread you opened by yourself.

Segeggs: the question should be:

what have the MOG's, with all the resources and so-called annointing, done to reduce criminal acts in our society?

How many times have you prayed and fasted on behave of the land and the students?
How many times have you interceded and cry against the enemies of the land? If the righteous man fails to pray and complain the land will not know peace.
How many times do you go on evangelism instead of arguing on unnecessary things?

If the souls of men perishing do not move you then you can only come here still doing what you do on nairaland 24 Hrs arguing about tithes and the church you can not build. Leave the church for the Lord to Judge go for evangelism.

Singing...My favorite song

Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty!
Early in the morning our song shall rise to Thee;
Holy, holy, holy, merciful and mighty!
God in three Persons, blessèd Trinity!

Holy, holy, holy! All the saints adore Thee,
Casting down their golden crowns around the glassy sea;
Cherubim and seraphim falling down before Thee,
Who was, and is, and evermore shall be.

Holy, holy, holy! though the darkness hide Thee,
Though the eye of sinful man Thy glory may not see;
Only Thou art holy; there is none beside Thee,
Perfect in power, in love, and purity.

Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty!
All Thy works shall praise Thy Name, in earth, and sky, and sea;
Holy, holy, holy; merciful and mighty!
God in three Persons, blessèd Trinity!

frosbel: ^^^^


This spirit in MAN , which is his life giving breath is what makes MAN conscious , it is not an independent aspect of MAN.

"Surely a spirit is in man, And the breath of the Mighty One Doth cause them to understand." - Job 32:8

Re-Read Bro

JOB 32:8 But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.

Pro 20:27 The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly.

1 Corinthians 2:9-11
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? Even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Romans 8:16 The Spirit Himself (meaning the Holy Spirit) beareth witness with our spirit, that we are children of God

(1 Corinthians 2:14) The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned

Bidam: exactly my bro..ayam am not saying our fathers never had their flaws but to come and categorically condemn them out rightly is what am against.

We are not to condemn them outrightly. Agree with you same

When Miracles are done to glorify and exalt a man then it is not of God. When they are to seek financial, material or any physical gain, they are to be questioned. If they are against the WILL of God then it can't be from God.
A believer must be very sensitive and hope, have faith in God not on the Man or Vessel. And the Man of God needs to be very careful when the miracles are making him the subject of people's admiratiion instead of God and when people are praising him.

@ Ihedinobi.
God bless you this morning. I do find your topic very interesting and will like to chip in some contribution from my own horizon. I must tell you that lately NL has being invaded by different kind of views that had made the forum very boring, so what I do most times is to go thru some comments, laugh, shake my head and close.
Miracle is an important tool in the hands of the Lord for his children and a medium in which God exhibits extraordinary things, wonders and workings beyond human understanding and comprehension. The workings of miracles are for different purposes and as specified in the bible and used by the fathers of faith, Christ our savior and the apostles, not forgetting the DEVIL for different reasons. That means even the Devil can do some "miracle".
Miracle is not ascribed to human power but attributed to the supernatural, extraordinary or divine source.
I will like to limit this exposition to the miracles of Christ
The purpose of the Miracles of Christ during his ministry can be summed up into 5...
1. Out of compassion
2. To show the power of God in him
3. To bring the people close and secure the attention of those he wanted to preach to
4. To bring people into repentance
5. To teach the Disciples and believers that they can likewise do same.

1. Out of Compassion- John 11:1-45. The raising of Lazarus from the Dead after the fourth day was one of the events in Christ ministry that He showed compassion. We saw how He wept though we believe He could have wept for several reasons, but He showed His human side and in his emotions from the tone of His prayer. Jesus an embodiment of Love showed not from pride, arrogance or show of theatrical display but how He wanted Man to be free from the bondage of the enemy and be whole in body.

2. To show and glorify the power and authority of God in him- John 3:2, John 10:25, 38. This shows one of the intent of his miracles that He is God and carries the inherent power of Godship in Himself. He knew that for some to listen they will have to see the extraordinary works of God not seen before. And the bible says some believed and received him for this purpose. John 9:3-5 “neither this man nor his parents sinned,' said Jesus, 'but this happened so that the works of God might be displayed in him. As long as it is day, we must do the works of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. While I am in the world, I am the light of the world”. Nicodemus came to him because He knew that for a man to do wrought those miracles, must be someone like God.

3. To bring the people close and secure the attention of those he wanted to preach to- Mathew 17:1-28. Some of the miracles of Christ were to bring the people close to him. Mathew 14: 13-21. Jesus told his disciples not to chase the 5000 away because He knew with such multitude at a go; you needed a miracle to draw their attention with only 5 loaves and 2 fish. Everyone ate and was satisfy to hear the word of the master.
This miraculous feeding of the multitude was another sign that Jesus was the Messiah

4. To bring people into repentance- John 3:1-3 Talked about the discussion of Nicodemus where he was telling Christ about the miracles of Christ and it was only someone from God that can perform such wondrous acts. Nicodemus wanted more about God; he knew there was more than just performing religion, there was this hunger for righteousness and repentance. Christ saw this in him and took the advantage. The 10th leper that came back in Luke 17:11-19.
5. To teach the Disciples and believers that they can likewise do same- Mathew 17:20-21 Jesus thought the disciples that all the miracles can be done by a believer that believes and have faith in the efficacy of the power of God and He commanded them to do likewise and this sign shall follow all that believe; In His name they shall cast out demon…..Mark 16: 15-20.
So as a believer the working of miracles are our rights in Christ Jesus when we are faithful to him, however a believer that has grown in faith will know at a stage that he no longer live or run after miracle anymore, for he is a custodian of the miracle of God. And also know when it is fake (Simon the sorcerer) or from God. The believer hungers for more of God daily not only miracles which are side attractions but the presence of God which is the main thing.

What we need to Grow is our faith in Him daily, seeking His face in truth.

That I may Know in Phillians 3:10. The more of Christ we need as a believer willing to grow and know His words

yuzedo: Still offer Nigerians visa to Oklahoma/USA and 9/10 will scramble for it like say na gold!

Then what does your statement inferred? If you dont have meaningfull words that will show compassion, you can just read and leave the tread.

I believe the FRSC should do their Jobs by telling the various road maintenance agencies to repair and put the roads in top shape. Most of the accidents on Nigeria roads are due to the poor condition of the roads. The road safetiness should begin from the government maintaining the roads rather than using common Nigerians as scape goats and instruments of government and personal extortion.

The FRSC should tell the Government- Things you must do on the road to make it motorable