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If this is what Islam teaches you then alot of people are going to cry if their eyes becomes opened to lies they have being fed with. |
Was it the same Mohammed that fell on the Apostles and they were speaking in tongues? Was it the same Mohammed (comforter) that was to comfort people with sword and terror? The comforter was to tell and teach people about christ, But Mohammed was going around fighting for Allah. I believe you should do more on studying to gain knowledge not to sound ![]() |
ijawkid: Your point??Because you have seen yourself as to question God's judgement. Was Christ capable of knowing what really happened after death? YES Was He capable of knowing what happened doing the time of Moses? YES- because he knew what was going to happened to him even after His death. |
Goshen360: Frosbel, where are you oooooooooooooooooooI always constrain myself not to reply him, with his interpretation of the scriptures. Although he says he interpretes the scriptures logically not spiritually. |
Super1759: So many questions unanswered. I really condemn the killing.but I need answers to some questionsNo matter what they did, they dont deserve to die this way. This is inhumanity against humanity of the first order. World acclaimed terrorist were not killed in this manner. Adulf hitler didnt suffer this fate. But for some-one of flesh and blood to go through this pains of seeing death before the main death is evil against man-kind from people we can call beast. |
frosbel: okay,John 3:16 |
What He saw was only 1 person and not 2 different from the 3 in the furnace. |
frosbel: In the bible Son of GOD or Sons of GOD can refer to Angels, Human Beings or Christ himself.Thank you my brother if all you have written is true then, John 3:16 wouldn't say " only begotten Son" and He would also say or refered according to your frstline as God sending an angel or even a Human being as pointed by you. That means by you John 3:16 was not refering to Jesus christ. If not for revelation,How did He know what He saw when He had never seen anything like that before, and only 3 men changing to 4? Have you read his response? Please read and get back to me. |
ijawkid: Lol...Do you know Nebuchadnezzar can't be talking about so many gods because He knew they were serving one God different form the gods he was serving and the one he laid before them to worship? Think my brother. |
ijawkid: Lol...So your aim is setting up snares for the faithfuls? We will see. |
frosbel: It said son of gods, and you said this was Christ.Daniel 3:25 King James Version (KJV) 25 He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God. Please kindly answer this questions. Who is refered to as the son of God in the bible? Who is refered to as the son of god in the bible? |
brainpulse: Please never put words into my writ-ups , I had and will never refer God as god. I pointed out that in that context the bible will not be refering to angels as gods and in another revision it was used as God. Please be informed |
frosbel: mate, gods in the bible can refer to angels, judges of Israel and even children of GOD.Addre Please never put words into my writ-ups , I had and will never refer God as god. I pointed out that in that context the bible will not be refering to angels as gods and in another revision it was used as God. Please be informed |
frosbel: BTW, Mr. Tithes and Offerings, I am waiting for your answer to my comment which rebuffed your earlier points, in another post.Lets finish addressing this Issue bro we will all move there. |
Image123: yepaaaa @ OP. the thing is 'defy' na, not 'defile'.Thanks bro. I had no time to go through, the second time at least you got the message |
ijawkid: Is this the scripture you are talking about??I kow you are coming with this i am ready for you. Who are the gods (small g) your tranlation was refering to. The only time the Bible refered to gods(small g) are those worshiping images and when we are refered to as small gods. at no time did the bible refered to as angels as gods. I said, "You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High. Psalm 82:6.) I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the ...) in this context, It was |
Back to the question of who visited Abraham — we are specifically told in Gen. 18:1 that the Lord (YHWH) appeared to him (Abraham) near the trees/oaks of Mamre. The Hebrew makes it perfectly clear that Yahweh himself appeared, at least at some point in the story. The Greek translators confirm, albeit somewhat more generically, that it was God (ho theos) that appeared. This seemingly random appearance of Yahweh to Abraham was not an isolated occurrence. God had appeared to him a number of times previously (see Gen. 12:7; Gen. 17:1–3, 22). These theophanies are not described with any detail, but relate in a rather nonchalant, non-spectacular fashion the idea that Yahweh descended from heaven to speak with Abraham (and then “went up” from him, Gen. 17:22). So, in chapter 18, we are informed of another appearance of Yahweh to Abraham. Many commentators make a point distinguish this appearance from that of chapter 17. The open (blank) space in the Hebrew text between the two chapters is an indicator that we are starting a new, unrelated narrative. Some commentators identify this first clause of verse 1 as an introduction to the following chapters, which are characterized by their narrative of divine contact with mortals. Although this may indicate that we should understand this line apart from the following verses — that perhaps this is just the “heading” and not the actual beginning of the story–we will have to answer more questions before coming to any conclusion. After these words of introduction, we are told that Abraham, while sitting in his tent, looks up and beheld three “men” approaching. Neither the Hebrew nor the Greek call them “angels” here, but use common words for mortal men. However, in the next chapter, Gen. 19:1, two of the “men” are called angels (or “messengers”, in both Hebrew and Greek). If two of them leave for Sodom, then apparently the third is left behind. The way the narrative comes to us, the third visitor would seem to be the Lord, who is left by the other two and remains speaking to Abraham in the last part of chapter 18. |
God will bless you as you read with an open heart as God defiled Human Logic on our series of debate on TRINITY (part 1). The Three Men Who Appeared to Abraham: The Godhead, Angels, or Human Beings? (Old Testament Lesson ![]() By David Larsen | Published: February 19, 2010 In Genesis 18, we read that the Lord appeared to Abraham in Mamre, and also, in the same verse, that three “men” visited him. This has to be one of the most debated passages of all time. The big question is whether these three were divine beings (and if one of the three was the Lord, Yahweh), and if so, why are they described in these verses as “men” engaging in very human activities such as washing their feet and eating regular food (Gen. 18:4– ? This is a very complicated matter, especially because the text is so vague, not providing the details that we would need to sort this out. In fact, it is really impossible to come to a conclusion based on the biblical text. So why do I bother? Because divine theophanies are a serious matter and a correct understanding (or as close as we can get to it) of these narratives helps us understand the early Israelite beliefs concerning the nature of God.But before I get into that, I want to point out that the blog Joel’s Monastery (which I’ve mentioned here recently) has a great in-depth commentary on the scriptural passages covered in this Old Testament Lesson #8. He does a good job of covering the material for the entire lesson, including a treatment of the Melchizedek tradition that is quite comprehensive. My post is necessarily more limited, but, if you would like, please see some of my previous posts on Melchizedek as well: Melchizedek: Priest, King, and God Joseph Smith and the Genealogy of Melchizedek |
The problem I see hears is this, these peole had only seen God from the Logis side of View but bot from the spiritual angle. They have read only part of the Bible that suited a claim and left the whole Bible just for a couse and purpose. They have narrowed their understanding to a revision that suits their belief and understanding neglecting the intents of the spirit of God |
ijawkid: No man has ever seen GOD....So you are saying: God is not powerful to reveal himself in any nature. That God can not do all things accept things in your Head. That the bible lied when Moses saw only a part of God. That the writter of Genesis wrote in error. That even Adam never saw God in the evening of the day as recorded in scriptures. That there was differnce in the words used for angels, God, lord, god, Christ in the bible expect those permitted by you and your gathering for the sake of all interpretations. God Defiled your LOGIC again "The minute God can be seen and then can die then he stops being GOD...." Where was this written in the bible? |
frosbel: Angels are referred to as Sons of GOD, it was an angel not Christ.With all humility and to honour God in heaven and not to sin against God's WORD and not add or remove because of the day of reckoning and judgement. Please kindly referred me to a biblical reference saying that the fourth person refereed to in Dan 3:25 was only an Angel not CHRIST. God defiled Your LOGIC Frosbel. I would humbly say I see the Spirit of Error hear from you. |
frosbel: God fellowshiped with ADAM in his sinless state , when Adam sinned it was all over.Wheather in hIS SINLESS NATURE OR NOT.With what nature did he relate with ADAM? And after His sinful nature God still came down made them clothings from animal skin and gave it to them. So God did all that to defile your Human logic. You also gulved, I told you, they are all trickish questioin that will attract 28 meanings pointing to the samething. You avn't seen nothing yet. |
frosbel: God did not himself come down , he imbued authority on his angels and sent them.@Frosbel, @ No. 1: The context and events inwhich you quoted was different entiely.Unless you are calling the bible lier Again you have only suceeded in twisting the whole issue again. Was Abraham going on a Journey? The Bible Gen 18: 1-5 quoted that God Genesis 18:1-15 New International Version (NIV) The Three Visitors 18 The Lord appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day. 2 Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby. When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground. 3 He said, “If I have found favor in your eyes, my lord,[a] do not pass your servant by. 4 Let a little water be brought, and then you may all wash your feet and rest under this tree. 5 Let me get you something to eat, so you can be refreshed and then go on your way—now that you have come to your servant.” “Very well,” they answered, “do as you say.” 6 So Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah. “Quick,” he said, “get three seahs[b] of the finest flour and knead it and bake some bread.” 7 Then he ran to the herd and selected a choice, tender calf and gave it to a servant, who hurried to prepare it. 8 He then brought some curds and milk and the calf that had been prepared, and set these before them. While they ate, he stood near them under a tree. 9 “Where is your wife Sarah?” they asked him. “There, in the tent,” he said. 10 Then one of them said, “I will surely return to you about this time next year, and Sarah your wife will have a son.” Now Sarah was listening at the entrance to the tent, which was behind him. 11 Abraham and Sarah were already very old, and Sarah was past the age of childbearing. 12 So Sarah laughed to herself as she thought, “After I am worn out and my lord is old, will I now have this pleasure?” 13 Then the Lord said to Abraham, “Why did Sarah laugh and say, ‘Will I really have a child, now that I am old?’ 14 Is anything too hard for the Lord? I will return to you at the appointed time next year, and Sarah will have a son.” This was refering to God appearing to Him not telling him that He was going to send someone. Why have you created a form of God in your heart saying He can not do this or not? If God can defile your Logic (human) accept this in fellowship of humility and lets learn from God himself |
Hi all, To give us proper understanding of this issued (GodHead) that has suffered immense debate i would want us to answer this critical questions before i post a write-up from some-one. 1. When God( we all agree that God is spirit) and the angels visited Abraham, in what form did He visit Abraham (this question is trickish)? He also ate and do things like Human being. Then Can we say its is illogical, difficult for God, impossible for God to come down in the same nature and experience everything as of man for a purpose as the one Christ did? 2. The bible concisely recorded that in the eve of the day, God will come down and fellowship with adam ( i believe talk, and also do things like man with him, properbly laugh and talk) in what nature since God is a spirit will Adam ( man of 100%) see God,dinned with him? So if God could do likewise in those form then is it possible to do the same for any purpose). 3. The bible recorded in Daniel 3:25-28, When daniel's friend were put into the furnace of fire. The king recorded that The fourth image was like the Image of the SON OF GOD even when Jesus christ had not be birthed or His mother and Father were birthed. What misery is this? And this has defiled "LOGIC" Then can we say He had already exited before His death and only waiting for time (we are also going to be debating on this). If a man had exited before his birth that means is death is a formalty for a devine purpose. He also said no one can take His life if He had not laid it down? Then if God can allow this that defiles LOGIC then is anything impossible for him even if it will defile LOGIC? Thanks all as we enjoy this heat. |
Hi all, To give us proper understanding of this issued that has suffered immense debate i would want us to answer this critical questions before i post a write-up from some-one. 1. When God( we all agree that God is spirit) and the angels visited Abraham, in what form did He visit Abraham (this question is trickish)? He also ate and do things like Human being. Then Can we say its is illogical, difficult for God, impossible for God to come down in the same nature and experience everything as of man for a purpose as the one Christ did? 2. The bible concisely recorded that in the eve of the day, God will come down and fellowship with adam ( i believe talk, and also do things like man with him, properbly laugh and talk) in what nature since God is a spirit will Adam ( man of 100%) see God,dinned with him? So if God could do likewise in those form then is it possible to do the same for any purpose). 3. The bible recorded in Daniel 3:25-28, When daniel's friend were put into the furnace of fire. The king recorded that The fourth image was like the Image of the SON OF GOD even when Jesus christ had not be birthed or His mother and Father were birthed. What misery is this? And this has defiled "LOGIC" Then can we say He had already exited before His death and only waiting for time (we are also going to be debating on this). If a man had exited before his birth that means is death is a formalty for a devine purpose. He also said no one can take His life if He had not laid it down? Then if God can allow this that defiles LOGIC then is anything impossible for him even if it will defile LOGIC? Thanks all as we enjoy this heat. |
CAPTAIN T: friend, please free yourself from this mental slavery.And be bound spiritually |
And they also claim that some verses of the Bible where errors and not relevant to some issues in the modern age. They interprete the bible with Logic(wisdom of men) and do not make reference to interpretation and understanding as given by the spirit of God. They wash down Men of God with redicle and insults and uphold their own self-righteousness. They claim the knowledge of the spirit of God but denial His manefestation. |
frosbel: Fail again !!What is it to perish please? |
truthislight: evil heart.Please take time to read your bible if you are christian and understand God. God is not and never wicked, but just like every father wil do, will have set of rules and consequences if this rules are not obeyed. Isaiah 59:1-2 |
Let us Analyse this bible verse and raise some vital questions which I believe will help us. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 1. What is the meaning of the Perish used in that context (because for something to perish means it has no chance of coming back to life)? It could mean a state of destruction, unredeemable state of calamity and everlasting sorrow and rejection. 2. What is Everlasting life and the need for this? Everlasting life means a state of man living perpetually.If man will live perpetually then man will not had experienced the first death. That means there is a second life and that might take eternity after the first death. 3. Why did God want us to live perpetually? I believe we will now go to the rea son why he created Man, the purpose of the first Adam to enjoy and have a relationship with him which He still desires. 4. If God had loved the world so much and wouldnt want anybody to perish in the first place then there would be no reason to allow Jesus to redeem the world. I believe He knew the consequences will be fatal for man if He didnt come with the Plan of Salvation. He saw this and He would do everything to save man if only man took the choice given to him by God. So if man will not perish and suffer for life then there is no reason for Jesus to come, He could just live man alone since after death nothing happens |
Understanding the Words of God through the human mind and the spirit man are two different things entirely and everytime, the interpretation of the two are always different because they are two different individual and personalities that can never come to terms together. The Human mind(nature) tells and understand things basically from what he can see,feel, touch etc and it becomes very difficult for him to comprehend and interprete when they are off the limits of this senses. Its Just like telling a man blind from birth that the tallest building in Nigeria is mre than the highest mountain in the world. This becomes illogical for him to comprehend and interprete becomes its beyond what he could fanthom, fashion and feel. For him to believe he will have to experience it himself. That is exactly the things and words of God. They are not things we could see with our physical mind but can see,feel and touch when we allow our spiritual man to experience it. Spiritual Truth Is Spiritually Discerned Thought Those outside of Christ are unable to grasp spiritual truth. Only by means of the Holy Spirit is spiritual truth discerned. If we better understood this we would give far greater priority to prayer than to clever presentations.-DL |
When a Christian begins to interprete the words and works of God Logically then his salvation and faith needs to be questioned, because salvation in its self its the works of Faith and grace which logic can never explain. |
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