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Billyonaire: Amnesty and State Pardon are political reunification instruments. If the society was perfect, there would have been no such word like State pardon and Amnesty. Amnesty and State Pardon are not meant for priests, lawful or the patriots. Amnesty just like State Pardon was meant to reunite criminals, lawless, felons, rebels and thieves to the fold. If Alam was such criminal, a lawless, felon, rebel and thief then I see no reason its a misnorm. I will rather say the US Embassy is acting in ignorance of sovereignty of state of Nigeria. There is Penalty against any Embassy who dares to interfere in our sovereign ideals.

Sorry you have no point with this at all. In a healthy society where hard work, innovation and patriotism are celebrated, you can't find this nonsense. There are millions die-hard Nigerians working hard for this nation and you are typing and saying that criminals are the next to be celebrated. This is an exhibition of failed and corrupt system and government. A disgrace, despite our government begging for Health, security, social and infrastructural reliefs from this people (USA) and you said they should not meddle into our affairs. Please be educated.

Billyonaire: I invented how to spell.

Not funny at all, its your shame

Goshen360: 16Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. 18Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind. 19They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow. 20Since you died with Christ to the elemental spiritual forces of this world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its rules: 21“Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!”? 22These rules, which have to do with things that are all destined to perish with use, are based on merely human commands and teachings. 23Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence. Colossians 2 >> New International Version

I believe Goshen should have read this clearly before posting. I also know this has nothing to do with the issue on debate because this verses speaks on categories of idolatery, traditional worshippers etc judging the elects on what to eat and not to drink before they can have access to God.

E.g: Just like some churches we all know that believes in offering sacrifices to spiritual entities and likewise eating out of concoctions.

As christian I believe it is not out of place to admonish ourselves on things that could limit our christian growth and in motifying our flesh and putting it under subjection.

Pastor Kun: Because they continue to lead the flock of christ astray and the bible says we should rebuke them sharply.

Btw you that twist the words of God for your selfish ways should be rebuke more.

Pastor Kun: Nope I am arguing against false preachers and brethen like you.

Why do you continue to argue against them?

Candour: my dear Brother,read all my posts.I'm not in the tithe business camp

I pay my tithe

Candour: my dear Brother,read all my posts.I'm not in the tithe business camp

Sorry bro I PAY MY TITHE..... just a question driving somewhere

Candour: Non.All his righteousness was based on faith. Gen 15:6

Now will you answer mine?

How did He know He had to pay One tenth of the spoils, and what law was He obeying, since you guys called it Law?

ooman: Who is ignorant here? Me who posted an equation or you who dont understand? Read a little quantum physics. That would do for beginners.

You wrote something is proven beyond resaonable doubt and you cant explain it OMG.

Have you being to a project defence at all? Do you assume that your lecturers knows it or you prove to them that you understand, know and believe in your presentations BEYOND RESAONABLE DOUBT?

Certainly this man should not be taken serious. Out of here

ooman: What are you exactly angry at, that the formula proved the source of energy or that you dont understand the equation, hence, you asking me to spoon feed you.
If you lack knowledge about the constants used to derive energy, that is your problem. Read beginners quantum physics, you should catch up in some years.

You make me laugh at your ignorance, you created a topic to prove something beyond reasonable doubt and you dont understand and can't explain it neither. In maths If you cant explain it then dont prove it because it becomes rubbish.

ooman: here
https://www.nairaland.com/1207187/what-facts-energy-say-god

below is the "mathematical nature" of energy. if you understand it, of course, which is why it is better we continue to speak in plain language

You are a bad student of mathematics, what you have just done there is rubbish you copied and pasted. First you define what those alphabets means then their functions and concepts. And where were they derived from?

This bad maths and how do those formular relates to evolution.

Goshen360: Unfortunately, my pastor friend's church is in Calabar - Living Waters. They don't teach tithe for Christians, no seed sowing because they understand that the seed is the word of God. They only practice Grace based giving. I know many churches here in the United States that don't pressure you into giving but I don't know of much of them in Africa except for the aforementioned.

Also, the Grace based giving is the ONLY thing that is scriptural - whereby you give what you have with a cheerful heart and that's where the blessing is. It's a natural thing to give and receive apart from the bible saying it but we are to give whatever we have, not what we are forced or coerced to give.

I thought He was asking for a church that will not ask or demand for any form of money from the congregation, be it offering, tithes, freewill, offering for widows & orphans, pastor's welfare etc.

ridboy94: Islam is the way and i wnt say more dan dat...

To fraud? Can you cut and boil meat like that? The person that did that or cut, did it delibrately with a preconceived intention, which negates the story told.

You dont cut meat and boiled at home flattened unless for suya?

This is an outright fraud

cunlebaale: Meat Inscribed With "ALLAH" In Arabic. Its For Real,saw It,touched,it Felt It


Haleemah Adeniran wrote:

Its for real,saw it,touched,it felt it. My Hall mate @ Queens Hall, university of Ibadan. Her mum brought her raw meat. She boiled it & noticed a particular one had inscription she could not immediately ascertain on it,she took d next step by Frying d pieces of meat,& Voila! D inscription ALLAHU(in arabic) came out Boldly. The part of d
meat is muscular and transparent such dt light shines
through it! Which of the miracles of Allah will you deny
FIND out more @ UI's mosque Dome

Is this How you will cut meat, boil and fry the meat? This is a fraud. simple

Good one, different from those fighting over hijab instead of creativity

What are the scientific proof that man’s body came from the dust of the ground, as the Bible says? The human body is made up of materials and minerals found on the surface of the ground, and not from the core of the earth. Oxygen, being the most abundant element on the earth’s crust or on the ground, makes up 65 percent of the human body, and carbon, also abundant on the top soil of the ground, is 18 percent, and hydrogen is 10 percent. The 59 elements found in the human body are all found on the earths crust. This is amazing because what the Bible says perfectly match the scientific composition of a human body.

The ignorance of these ‘imaginary people’ in what the Bible says betrays their alleged intelligence and knowledge in science. Of course, the human body is not made up only of dust, but God mixed the dust to water to produce clay. <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
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(Job 10:9) “Remember, I beseech thee, that thou hast made me as the clay; and wilt thou bring me into dust again?”

(Romans 9:20-21) “Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honor, and another unto dishonor?”

The mixture is clay, understandably contains more water than dust. Who says that the information in the Bible is scientifically nonsense? They are the one’s that are nonsensical, and not the Bible!

The exact proportion of the minerals and materials, if maintained, make up a healthy human body (http://www.emory.edu/EMORY_REPORT/erarchive/1998/September/erseptember.21/9_21_98Size.html). Excesses in these materials will cause disorders and diseases. Excess of aluminum, for example, and iron, will be toxic for the human body. The proportions of the abundance of the 59 elements on the earths crust, is amazingly represented in its presence in the human body. Who says that the Bible is not scientific? These ‘imaginary and anti-scientific people’!

http://esoriano./2007/05/25/from-dust-to-man-a-scientific-proof/

Man was made from dust and will return back to dust (the components he was made from)
The Bible was right after all.

Gen 3:19 In the sweat of your face shall you eat bread, till you return unto the ground; for out of it were you taken: for dust you are, and unto dust shall you return.

Ecc 3:20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.

Our bodies discomposes after death and goes back to its natural from- Dust

1 John 5: 14-15

14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

This is the resaon we are serving a living God that neither Sleep nor slumber. Our Hope in him is never shattered, many where given the best known medical treatment and yet could not survived a simple headache. But we know with all conviction and all confidence that it was the same Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead, that dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead has also given life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.Romans 8:11

My Faith is made strong and my hope heightened, my confidence ever more unshakened and unresolved by your testimony that indeed God is God.

To many that are still looking up to God for this kind of divine touch I pray ernestly that God shall do what no man can do and your miracle shall come forth in this season IN JESUS NAME.

I love God and I rep Him on your behave. Sweet Jesus...................I wonderful you are, you are brighter than the morning star.

1 John 5: 14-15

14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

This is the resaon we are serving a living God that neither Sleep nor slumber. Our Hope in him is never shattered, many where given the best known medical treatment and yet could not survived a simple headache. But we know with all conviction and all confidence that it was the same Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead, that dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead has also given life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.Romans 8:11

My Faith is made strong and my hope heightened, my confidence ever more unshakened and unresolved by your testimony that indeed God is God.

To many that are still looking up to God for this kind of divine touch I pray ernestly that God shall do what no man can do and your miracle shall come forth in this season IN JESUS NAME.

I love God and I rep Him on your behave. Sweet Jesus...................I wonderful you are, you are brighter than the morning star.

^^^ God Bless you bros...

Goshen360: King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
But you shall remember the LORD your God: for it is he that gives you power to get wealth, that he may establish his covenant which he swore unto your fathers, as it is this day. - Deuteronomy 8:18

Have you ever wondered why many Christians serve God and are still poor or broke? Hmmmmmmmm. If you're a Christian and yet still poor or broke, this is a word from heaven for you. It is very clear from NT scriptures that God doesn't want us poor. One of the things Christ sacrificed was for us to be made rich (2 Corinthians 8:9). One of the groups Christ was anointed to preach to are the poor (Luke 4:18).

There're two kinds of power as described in scriptures.

1. Power as it is in Deuteronomy 8:18
2. Power as it is in Acts 1:8.

Many church folk thinks when they receive power as in Acts 1:8, they speak in tongues and witness unto the Lord etc they automatically will have wealth. NO! You can receive power as in Acts 1:8, speak in tongues, witness unto the Lord and still be poor or broke. It doesn't mean you ain't gonna pay your bills. Permit me to say, spirituality is not to cover up for reality. Christianity is not an allusion to reality. Christianity is more than speaking in tongues, shouting, jumping etc without getting results. You can go to worship places on Sunday, shout, praise, sing, speak in tongues and witness etc, the reality is that you still got bills and expenses to take care of.

Now, what power is God talking about in Deuteronomy that doesn't equal the power in Acts. The power in Deuteronomy is from the Hebrew word Koach that conveys a meaning to be wisdom, understanding, skill, bodily strength, knowledge, insight, ideas and opportunities.

The power in Acts 1:8 is the Greek word dynamis that conveys its meaning as inherent power, power residing in a thing by virtue of its nature, or which a person or thing exerts and puts forth. This type of power doesn't convey the container or carrier but the power that resides within.

There is a difference between both power. God wasn't talking about power as it is in Acts 1:8 in Deuteronomy because Jesus had not come and be glorified yet for the Holy Spirit to give the power as it is in Acts 1:8, dynamis. So, when God speaks of power to get wealth to you - He speaks of skills, ideas, knowledge, insight, opportunities that will birth you wealth. It has nothing to do with speaking in tongues. Do you serve God and still live poor and can't pay your bills and expenses?

Look around you and stop waiting on God but see God in every opportunities, in ideas, insight, skills etc. God doesn't send the Holy Spirit to rain down money on you - He gives you insights, ideas, knowledge, opportunities etc that will eventually give you money or wealth. Somebody had an idea years back and that idea was to connect people globally via facebook. Today, we speak of him as a wealthy person. Somebody saw the needs in the society, and turned it into an opportunity, today we speak of them as wealthy people. Somebody came up with an insight to put sandwiches together, today we speak of Subway as a wealthy person. It's not enough to have faith, your faith must follow up with a corresponding action. There's opportunity all around you as I speak to you. Don't neglect that idea you had in the past. Don't neglect that opportunity, that insight, that skills. Think and let God's wealth be transfered to you!

New Living Translation (©2007)
Don't copy the behavior and customs of this world, but let God transform you into a new person by changing the way you think. Then you will learn to know God's will for you, which is good and pleasing and perfect. - Romans 12:2

God bless you!

It is on issues like this you support the Old testament and that is when its laws are important and relevant.

Prove.. when your heart stops you will die. Please here on NL

Because when it stops you might not die

frosbel: Death is a condition brought about my the curse of GOD.

If we have death as a demon , how does he manage to kill thousands at one go over 100 countries and by diverse methods.

Honestly this is why people call Christians fanatics, will all this rubbish going on, how can anyone take us seriously.

You will not win ONE soul to GOD by preaching fear .

You shouldnt be asking this question bro, Man and all physical thiings created by God are only creation limited by time and space. When Devil answered God that he was going to and fro the earth... Will you ask me, was it thru a private Jet? and why is he not tired, or why is he not old resting for several years?

We are not preaching fear but reality of the words of God that had existed before our Generation and will continue when we live this world, this is the trick of the devil, the same trick used against Eve. He told Eve you will not die but will be like gods.

Everyone do not have to take Gods message seriously because people will still not believe if they see. Okay check this quotation out bro...
1 corth 15 Vs 15-17
15:Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

There will be false witnesses of God- this might mean that those that still claim they know God and stil denial the ressurection of christ.

And the bible also says

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

All enemy shall be put under his feet with their rule, authority and powers. So if Death is an enemy and has powers then... it is more than condition.

The teachings of the bible is never by force or fear. You accept it or reject it.

Know for sure that the only thing that the devil is using from generation to generation is the same, that is the reason why he is very wise. I have found out through studies that the only way the devil can destroy the child and man of God is to use the same word of God against the word of God e.g Adam/ Eve, Jesus, Joseph etc. The bible calls it the craftiness of the enemy (devil). That its why the men of God will fall if not careful and why our reasoning might fail us if not careful.

God is not God of fear but God of love, kindness and justice. If He can sacrifice a man for us..know that he means business.

frosbel: I know this by heart.

Hades and DEATH shall be cast into the lake of fire, in other words the grave and death will be cast into Hell.

How can fire be cast into fire.

And you are wrong, all my answers are not in this chapter, please respond point by point to my questions.

God is not a GOD of blind faith, he gave us a brain for reason , not for decoration

frosbel: Besides DEATH is a condition , not a DEMON , stop this fanaticism !!!

1 Corinth 15: 12-27 and 55

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.

55: O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?- Death is more than a condition or state

truthislight: some bible translation simply distorts the message of the bible as to hide the meaning.




Is straith the opposit of broad and wide?

The right word should be broad or wide since many are going in through it.
Peace.

Thanks bro. Bible translation

musKeeto: E get the way e go be, only Jesus and im Papa go dey heaven

Matt 7: 13-15

13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

This is the Word of Wisdom I received from God at 2:30am this morning, and He instructed me to tell His children. And I beleieve this is a good medium to do so.

This year, the man(elects) must not make some vital and sensitive mistakes or error that could make God ask for the man's destiny from his own hands, the world will push him to make those mistakes, friends will talk him to make those mistakes, neighbors will “convince” him to make those mistakes. Once He cannot identify and be sensitive enough and he goes on to make those mistakes, he alone will face the consequence in the dark of his life.

I wasnt able to understand this word until my heart was taken to the Book of Samuel 1 Sam 15,16.

1 Sam 15: 1-35; Saul made the greatest error that made God ask for Saul’s destiny from his own hands; not his sacrifice of prayer, worship, fasting nor praise could redeem him from the grave consequence and pronouncement from God.

30 Then he said I have sinned: yet honor me now, I pray thee, before the elders of my people, and before Israel, and turn again with me, that I may worship the LORD thy God.

The same Man anointed by God got his destiny reversed and torn to pieces at his own very eyes (Vs. 27-28), He did everything known to man for his atonement, even the priest loved by God (Samuel) Prayed and cried on Saul’s behalf, but God showed him why He is never man.
Vs.29 And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man that He should repent.

A vital and sensitive error from a believer could shut out heaven from a believer and might withdraw heaven's resources (Talents, gifts, empowerment etc.) from an endowed and anointed man or child of God. Let us be careful and vigilant because endless prayer or intercession might not reverse the consequences or scars but might only forgive the sin.

To those that have the spirit of God, they should listen and obey the instructions from God more than having it done their own way this year. This is the Word of Wisdom. PLease I am not a Prophet, but this was laid in my heart.

My dear brother, its not a case of been fanatic about this issue or applying my personal interpretations but a case of either accepting the Truth as spelt out or rejecting them by way of changing its context.

If God is the same yesterday, today and forever Heb 13:8, then I should ask my self some questions. if the bible says He is a loving and a kind God, then why did He destroy the same Men he created and love. Why will He destroy the whole city of Jericho, Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah with burning hails,children of Isreal( that He handed them over to raiders who plundered them. He sold them to their enemies all around, whom they were no longer able to resist)? The same God that loved them.

Why and Why? We should not be emotional or blind our eyes away from one thing they all have in common, that once a man abhors inquity in Him, the same loving and kind God is just and can go to any extent to do anything He wishes?

The personalty of God is never complete if we only discuss about is love but not His anger( wrath) if we are to obey His words. WHy will the same God love and will destroy and kill? Simple He has done everything and everything for men, to sacrifice a whole Man just to save them, then you should know the same God means business and real business.

Rom 1:18,For God's anger is being revealed from Heaven against all impiety and against the iniquity of men who through iniquity suppress the truth. God is angry.

But its unfortunate if God decides to do anything no one can hold him back, wheather His decision seems right or emotionally wrong.

If the Bible says it I believe it without changing It- What I believe.

The same God is ready to accept us anytime, if we change from our wicked ways, that his my loving God. But if we are unrepentant the consequence can be devastating.
I dont need to change or twist the bible for anything because I have nothing to gain from that.

frosbel: ^^

A typical case of bible quotation without application of wisdom , application and void of correct passage contextualization.

A typical case of someone that always apply his wisdom and corrections to suit his own personal biblical interpretations.

Once it does not hurt or taste bitter then its never the TRUTH- brainpulse

HELL IS A PLACE OF FIRE

The man in Luke 16:24 cries: ". . .I am tormented in this FLAME."

In Matthew 13:42, Jesus says: "And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

In Matthew 25:41, Jesus says: "Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting FIRE,. . ."

Revelation 20:15 says, " And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE."

The Truth about Hell
by Terry Watkins


“And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments. . .” Luke 16:23



What you're about to read is hard to believe. . .

We're going to examine the place the Bible calls hell. We'll present documented evidence for a place called hell. Don't take what you're going to read lightly. If what you read is true — YOU COULD BE IN SERIOUS DANGER!

Several years ago a book was published, entitled Beyond Death's Door by Dr. Maurice Rawlings. Dr. Rawlings, a specialist in Internal Medicine and Cardiovascular Disease, resuscitated many people who had been clinically dead. Dr. Rawlings, a devout atheist, "considered all religion "hocus-pocus" and death nothing more than a painless extinction". But something happened in 1977 that brought a dramatic change in the life of Dr. Rawlings! He was resuscitating a man, terrified and screaming — descending down into the flames of hell:
"Each time he regained heartbeat and respiration, the patient screamed, "I am in hell!" He was terrified and pleaded with me to help him. I was scared to death. . . Then I noticed a genuinely alarmed look on his face. He had a terrified look worse than the expression seen in death! This patient had a grotesque grimace expressing sheer horror! His pupils were dilated, and he was perspiring and trembling — he looked as if his hair was "on end."
Then still another strange thing happened. He said,"Don't you understand? I am in hell. . . Don't let me go back to hell!" . . .the man was serious, and it finally occurred to me that he was indeed in trouble. He was in a panic like I had never seen before."
(Maurice Rawlings, Beyond Death's Door,(Thomas Nelson Inc., 1979) p. 3).
Dr. Rawlings said, no one, who could have heard his screams and saw the look of terror on his face could doubt for a single minute that he was actually in a place called hell!

The Bible continually warns of a place called hell. There are over 162 references in the New Testament alone which warns of hell. And over 70 of these references were uttered by the Lord Jesus Christ!

http://www.av1611.org/hell.html

Ihedinobi: So where in the Bible was it said that smoking, taking alcohol and tatooing are evil?

I might not support the tone of the OP in handling this issue, but i dont expect you to ask this question just to support the stand of your brother on this.