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The most pathetic of all is that these same people were common and poor men before they got to the position of authority and to believe that they are  the same people that are inflicting pain on the common is unjustified and must not be encouraged by any one in the right frame of mind.

The Government for long has "its" nose on Petroleum products - stating it has no vision to develop all other sector of the economy, so the question is if the petroleum finishes what are will going to be living on?

Some quaters( for deregulation) that i believe are naive or tend to think with oscillating synapses forgot to argue their points objectively on the reason why Governors and past precidents have had the opportunity to embezzle the same state funds that they claim is not available at the peril of social infrastructure. Then why will it be that anything that has to deal with the common man has to be treated as Dogs with no choice?

If "Badluck Ebele Judas" knows he can not do anything without deregulation let "it" resign with pride and continue "it" life without shoes and stop betraying the same people that he claim he once lived like.

Who are the faceless Oil cabals or barons that import fuel? Are they not the same people? If Bill Gate from other country can come to Nigeria to better the life of the common Nigerian, then we  expect more from this betrayer.
It is on record that most of these cabals have Oil refineries in other African countries and will never make refineries to work in Nigeria.
I will like to submit that there is no human justification for deregulation. Let Government complete all the refineries and build more beore they start thinking of deregulation or else Nigeria will be splitted to NI, Ge, RI, A. by REVOLUTION in West Africa

@ PointB

Your Gonernment lack Vision.

WHy should it be only on Petroleum products "IT" is concentrating on.
Why can he deregulate Agriculture products, etc
"IT" has no vision at all

It must stop. Because it is the cause of broken home in young couples. Every family member will try to give advice to the man and the woman, not giving them room to trust in there own decisions, and not giving the couple the opportunity to come to agree on how to chart the course of their marriage. They call the wife separately giving her advice that could destroy her home, if she doesnt allow them, she has built the wall of enemity, If she allows them then they will say she is a witch.

8686:
Maternal, It boils down to what happens mostly in Nigerian homes. Most mothers instigate some unseen and unrealistic reasons in the early years of their wards growing up why Paternal relations are people to detach from. Either for "winchi-winchi" reasons or something. I'm just trying to make up for those strained ties,

You av said it. It happened to most people i know, our mothers cook up bad stories about our paternal side so that the children begins to have a bad mind against them. it is when we grow up that we begin to understand.

So if my money no reach build house i should go and buy 1979 Vw beetle car

moderatorr:
unfortunately,
a good website does not make a good man!

A pastor who contested elections alongside a terrorist!

'give your life to christ . . .'
he must have said it to many people, but couldnt preach this to buhari.

Especially when he knew about the 'wild wild north' plan to murder innocent (christian)youth copers.

After the mob action, that vampire kept mute for weeks! Even longer than ayotallah buhari himself!

When he finally came spoke, what did he say? 'bla bla bla currupt leaders bla bla bla'.

From your assessment of this bakare,
do you think he would raise alarm to the federal government if he discovers a plot by boko haram to assasinate bill gates on his visit to nigeria? Me nah think so.

He is a bad lawyer, mentally challenged pastor,fake prophet, good terrorist.

Somebody give me a pistol.

Comment on the website not the man.

But if an unbeliever gives you Job to do dont take it.
If you share a common office with any one not in your faith, resign and start combing the street
If you have a vision that only people in you faith shares leave the city and face the bush
If you believe there are still vampires like Tunde bakare out there. You better run away from all your family members
If you believe he is a fake prophet jump into the lagoon and expect him to prophesy that you wont die

RUBISH !

You see, If it was a Guy dumping a lady , all Hell will let lose.

Look at that, sucked enough of him and you want to throw him away. that is bad

Those that have the indept knowledge of the word of God are not really surprise at the events of things and the difference between predictions, prophesy and revealation. I w ont entangle myself in the heat of this argument nor take sides. But one thing is very sure, Excuse is the surest gate to failure any man that harbours an excuse before a task will surely fail.

And don't let us forget in a hurry:

1. That a young girl Predicted through the spirit of the Devil what was to happen to apostle Paul ( and it happened).
2. That a soccerer prophesied to peter who he was. ( she was correct).
3. That the Devil had a revealation through Peter about Jesus and Jesus rebuked him.

But there is a clear difference btw these 3 that only those that have indept knowledge about the working of the spirit of God will be able to know the difference and the source of each. This is not the Forum to share this word of wisdom. The bible says test all Spirit,

Those that have the indept knowledge of the word of God are not really surprise at the events of things and the difference between predictions, prophesy and revealation. I w ont entangle myself in the heat of this argument nor take sides. But one thing is very sure, Excuse is the surest gate to failure any man that harbours an excuse before a task will surely fail.

And don't let us forget in a hurry:

1. That a young girl Predicted through the spirit of the Devil what was to happen to apostle Paul ( and it happened).
2.  That a soccerer prophesied to peter who he was. ( she was correct).
3. That the Devil had a revealation through Peter about Jesus and Jesus rebuked him.

But there is a clear difference btw these 3 that only those that have indept knowledge about the working of the spirit of God will be able to know the difference and the source of each. This is not the Forum to share this word of wisdom. The bible says test all Spirit,

Buy a ring, put it inside Agege bread make sure Agoin beans is ready also. Once she opens the Agege bread the ring falls out. then you tell her TO MARRY you. It does not cost(N150) much and without wahala.

are christian and muslim welcomed to bank with you? ;d ;d ;d ;d

What about trillions of Abacha loot that was recently paid into Federal Government's Account by the Swiss bank, what about the increase in the price of crude oil during libya's war.

Anytime there is plenty the elite, PDP and GEJ barons share it all alone, but when there is problem Sanusi, Okonjo calls it a name that the poor man can nt interprete and share the burden on the masses. GEJ is a cause on NIG.

@ BEAF

Who are the owners of these Petrol tankers? (certainly not the masses). WHo gives them exist from Nigeria borders? (certainly not the masses). Then why should they be the one to suffer despite paying for everything the masses use through there nose. Certainly this is a invitation to the First Revolution in Nigeria by the BadLuck Ebele Jonatief Government. Why has this thief failed to concentrate repairing and building more refineries, when he can dash the movie industry billions. Certainly this guy gast no head.

And also i will stop joining issues with you on this forum because i believe you either don't know the truth or you put it at one corner of your mouth and start spiting lies

@Beaf

On your argument on the cheque i think you are not knowledgeable at all on issues concerning bank transactions.

Have you checked your breathe? Maybe that is what is chasing Ladies away from you.
Or you have you checked your Body ordour? Maybe you have an offensive one when you sweat.

The Universe is Not Eternal, But Had A Beginning
by Rich Deem
I recently received an e-mail claiming that most scientists do not believe that the Big Bang represents the beginning of the universe. Other visitors to the site have made similar claims in the past, so I thought it would be a good idea to set the record straight about the origin of the universe. Although there are atheistic scientists who believe that the universe existed before the Big Bang, I must make it clear that they present no evidence for this belief, since none exists! This kind of belief is metaphysical in nature as indicated in an article from the The Origin-of-Life Foundation, Inc.®:

"Appeals to multiple or 'parallel' cosmoses or to an infinite number of cosmic 'Big Bang/Crunch' oscillations as essential elements of proposed mechanisms are not acceptable in submissions due to a lack of empirical correlation and testability. Such beliefs are without hard physical evidence and must therefore be considered unfalsifiable, currently outside the methodology of scientific investigation to confirm or disprove, and therefore more mathematically theoretical and metaphysical than scientific in nature. Recent cosmological evidence also suggests insufficient mass for gravity to reverse continuing cosmic expansion. The best cosmological evidence thus far suggests the cosmos is finite rather than infinite in age."1

Such metaphysical beliefs are often incorporated in popular books about cosmology, although it is seldom stated that those beliefs are without any evidence. Here are some quotes from university websites by scientists who know that the universe had a beginning:

"The conclusion of this lecture is that the universe has not existed forever. Rather, the universe, and time itself, had a beginning in the Big Bang, about 15 billion years ago." Stephen Hawking The Beginning of Time
"Scientists generally agree that "the Big Bang" birthed the universe about 15 billion years ago." Tom Parisi, Northern Illinois University
"As a result of the Big Bang (the tremendous explosion which marked the beginning of our Universe), the universe is expanding and most of the galaxies within it are moving away from each other." CalTech
"The Big Bang model of the universe's birth is the most widely accepted model that has ever been conceived for the scientific origin of everything." Stuart Robbins, Case Western Reserve University
"Many once believed that the universe had no beginning or end and was truly infinite. Through the inception of the Big Bang theory, however, no longer could the universe be considered infinite. The universe was forced to take on the properties of a finite phenomenon, possessing a history and a beginning." Chris LaRocco and Blair Rothstein, University of Michigan
"The scientific evidence is now overwhelming that the Universe began with a "Big Bang" ~15 billion (15,000,000,000 or 15E9) years ago." "The Big Bang theory is the most widely accepted theory of the creation of the Universe." Dr. van der Pluijm, University of Michigan
"The present location and velocities of galaxies are a result of a primordial blast known as the BIG BANG. It marked: THE BEGINNING OF THE UNIVERSE! THE BEGINNING OF TIME!" Terry Herter, Cornell University
"That radiation is residual heat from the Big Bang, the event that sparked the beginning of the universe some 13 billion years ago." Craig Hogan, University of Washington
"Most scientists agree that the universe began some 12 to 20 billion years ago in what has come to be known as the Big Bang (a term coined by the English astrophysicist Fred Hoyle in 1950." University of Illinois
"The universe cannot be infinitely large or infinitely old (it evolves in time)." Nilakshi Veerabathina, Georgia State University ()
"The universe had a beginning. There was once nothing and now there is something." Janna Levin, Department of Applied Mathematics and Theoretical Physics at Cambridge University
"Today scientists generally believe the universe was created in a violent explosion called the Big Bang." Susan Terebey, Department of Physics and Astronomy, California State University Los Angeles
"Evidence suggests that our universe began as an incredibly hot and dense region referred to as a singularity." Stephen T. Abedon, Ohio State University
"A large body of astrophysical observations now clearly points to a beginning for our universe about 15 billion years ago in a cataclysmic outpouring of elementary particles. There is, in fact, no evidence that any of the particles of matter with which we are now familiar existed before this great event." Louis J. Clavelli, Ph.D., Professor of Physics, University of Alabama
"Now, after decades of observing and thinking, we have come to answer confidently the question of the origin of our universe, with what is known as the "big bang"." Yuki D. Takahashi, Caltech
"The theory is the conceptual and the calculational tool used by particle physicists to describe the structure of the hadrons and the beginning of the universe." Keh-Fei Liu, University of Kentucky.
"The three-part lecture series includes: "How the Universe Began," "The Dark Side of the Universe: Dark Matter and Dark Energy" and "Cosmic Inflation: The Dynamite Behind the Big Bang?" (Lectures by Michael S. Turner, Bruce V. and Diana M. Rauner at Penn State University)
"Travel back in time to the beginning of the Universe: The Big Bang" Douglas Miller, University of Arizona
"Beginning of the Universe 20.0 billion yr ago" Charly Mallery, University of Miami
"At the beginning the universe was extremely hot and dense (more about this later) and as it expanded it cooled." Syracuse University
"THE UNIVERSE AND ALL OF SPACE ARE EXPANDING FROM A BIG BANG BEGINNING" Center for Cosmological Physics, University of Chicago
"Gamow realized that at a point a few minutes after its beginning, the universe would behave as a giant nuclear reactor." Valparaiso University, Department of Physics and Astronomy
"I'll also include what the time is since the creation of the Universe, and an estimate of the temperature of the Universe at each point." Siobahn M. Morgan, University of Northern Iowa.
"The Universe is thought to have formed between 6-20 billion years ago (Ga) as a result of the "Big Bang" Kevin P. Hefferan, University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point
"The dominant idea of Cosmology is that the Universe had a beginning." Adam Frank, University of Rochester Department of Physics & Astronomy
"The hot dense phase is generally regarded as the beginning of the universe, and the time since the beginning is, by definition, the age of the universe." Harrison B. Prosper, Florida State University
"One of the major hypotheses on which modern cosmology is based is that the Universe originated in an explosion called the Big Bang, in which all energy (and matter) that exists today was created." Eric S. Rowland, UC Santa Cruz
"Together with Roger Penrose, I developed a new set of mathematical techniques, for dealing with this and similar problems. We showed that if General Relativity was correct, any reasonable model of the universe must start with a singularity. This would mean that science could predict that the universe must have had a beginning, but that it could not predict how the universe should begin: for that one would have to appeal to God." Stephen W. Hawking "Origin of the Universe" lecture
El Universo no es Eterno, Sino

These are few i am coming with more and more.

@ zataxs

Have you seen Death before and yet people says he/she/its has a COLD hand.
Please prove that he doesn't exist or exist.

Please, please and please.

Have you seen the wind before but people believes he/ she/ its the oldest thing that ever exist.
Please prove that he/she/its doesn't exist or exist.

zataxs:
@brainpulse

There is really no reason to shout at all.

IT IS VERY HEALTHY IF AN ATHEIST BELIEVE THAT THERE IS NO GOD. AND IT IS UNDERSTANDING IF THEY TEND TO WANT TO USE THE COMPREHENSION OF HUMAN UNDERSTANDING TO REVEAL THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD, WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE.
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No atheist in his right mind is trying to use human understanding to reveal the knowledge of God. This is of course impossible like you state.
Mostly because there is no God in the first place.

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WHILE WE DO NOT SEE GOD, BUT THAT DOESN'T PROVE THAT THERE IS NO GOD. NOBODY HAS SEEN THE WIND BEFORE BUT WE FEEL IT. NOBODY HAS SEEN DEATH BEFORE BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THERE IS DEATH AND IT WILL COME TO MAN ONE DAY. IF WE CAN NOT PROVE SOMETHINGS THROUGH OUR 6 SENSES THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT DOESN'T EXIST. IT ONLY MAKES A FOOL OF OURSELVES WHEN WE BELIEVE THAT SOMETHINGS DONT EXIST AND DISCOVERIES LATER FINDS OUT SUCH A THING EXIST.
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[b]Feeling something does not constitute its existence. The feeling is real. I don't doubt. But the object in question may or may not exist. feeling is not an attribute of something that exists.
I feel that it will rain today,  it may not rain, it many rain,  it does little to prove because you felt it rained. Get my drift?
People see/feel sometimes what is not real, [/b]

E.g. maybe people may feel that someone else hates them or even loves them,  either a gut feeling or by trying to interrupt the others reactions/actions. but they could be wrong right?


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GOD ONLY REVEALS HIMSELVES TO THOSE THAT EARNESTLY SEEK HIM IN TRUTH AND IN SPIRIT ( PALS DONT LET US ARGUE AGAIN ON THE EXISTENCE OF SPIRIT). AND THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIS EXISTENCE CAN ONLY COME TO A MAN BY FAITH. AND WHEN HIS REVELATION COMES YOU BEGIN TO FEEL HIM AND KNOW HIM BETTER. YOU CAN NEVER NEVER COME TO THE REALITY OF HIS EXISTENCE MY HUMAN KNOWLEDGE. AND NO MATTER HOW YOU DO NT BELIEVE HIS EXISTENCE IT CAN NEVER REMOVE ANYTHING FROM HIM. FINE YOU CAN HAVE EVERYTHING IN THIS WORLD AND STILL DON'T BELIEVE HE EXIST, IT STILL HAS NOT PROVEN ANY FACT THAT HE DOES NT EXIST.

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Before the White man came to Nigeria amadioha was "real",   and people felt his power. They had visions that actually materialized into fact( few admit where they failed though and made the wrong predictions) , now christianity is no exception. Do you think your experience is more authentic than an Islamic one or Buddhists one? how about baptist vs catholic?
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NOTE. YOU CAN NEVER PROVE THAT GOD EXIST IN THE LAB, IN THE WORK SHOP, IN A REACTOR ETC ( THAT IS THE PROBLEM OF EV RY ATHEIST), THEY WANT A SCIENTIFIC PROVE AND GOD IS NOT A LAB MOUSE TO CONDUCT EXPERIMENT ON. TO SO MANY MILLIONS OUT THERE THAT HAS EXPERIENCE GOD, YOU CANT JUST TELL THEM THAT HE DOESNT EXIST JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT COME TO THE REALITY OF IT. I BELEIVE THERE IS NO AEITHEIST JUST A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT WILLING AND PATIENT TO EXPERIENCE THE AWSOMENESS AND THE BEAUTY OF HIS EXISTENCE.

<< no one intends to prove the existence of God in a lab and no one is attempting to.
no the game of numbers ,  many millions experience Buddha or Krishna so does he exist? why such a myopic world view, do you think it is only Jesus that people still believe in right now?
contrary to what you say, atheists are extremely patient,  that's why most notable scientists who discover medicines and invent machines that we both enjoy are atheists
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1. @ the bold-Please dont sound confused,What you are telling me is that when you feel something it doesn't mean it esist. I laugh. You don't have to feel something through all your 6 senses before you know it exist. Please don't deliberately sound controversial. Feeling its an attribute that tells you something exist. 100% or if a man's SYNAPSES are  not working correctly. If you have a medical problem with your feelings(eye, hears, tongue, . etc) because you are not feeling anything doesnt mean it doesnt exist, because the other person that has every senses correct will actual feel and known it exist.

2. Now you said No atheist in his right mind is trying to use human understanding to reveal the knowledge of God. So with what do you now know that God doesn't exist, because if you dont use human knowledge certainly you will know except you dont want to agree.

3. Who told you i am a Christian. Thanks since i didt tell you, and you were able to predict and believe that i am a Christian then open your spiritual mind and seek God earnestly you will sure know he exist, unless you want to be lazy to do that. I told you you guys just want to sound and be in the other end, and its quite funny and intriguing as well.

emmatok:
Didn't you post this.

4. And if you have a grouse with Jesus i bet you leave him because the battle its never yours and its pointless fighting a man that has not wrong you and you have not seen but heard. And those scientist you said also made us understand that if we open our hearts we will believe. I did the same i investigated him beyond what i was told and heard and i found out He exist.

Can you see yourselves outside.

what is your fate if you leave Nigeria now? when 2 igbo states cannot unite and fond their people inrespective of the states. you will be the most to suffer if you still chasing your dreams of Biafra.

Fear of Police stray bullets

nothing ! and nothing

IT IS VERY HEALTHY IF AN ATHEIST BELIEVE THAT THERE IS NO GOD. AND IT IS UNDERSTANDING IF THEY TEND TO WANT TO USE THE COMPREHENSION OF HUMAN UNDERSTANDING TO REVEAL THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD, WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE. WHILE WE DO NOT SEE GOD, BUT THAT DOESN'T PROVE THAT THERE IS NO GOD. NOBODY HAS SEEN THE WIND BEFORE BUT WE FEEL IT. NOBODY HAS SEEN DEATH BEFORE BUT WE BELIEVE THAT THERE IS DEATH AND IT WILL COME TO MAN ONE DAY. IF WE CAN NOT PROVE SOMETHINGS THROUGH OUR 6 SENSES THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT DOESN'T EXIST. IT ONLY MAKES A FOOL OF OURSELVES WHEN WE BELIEVE THAT SOMETHINGS DONT EXIST AND DISCOVERIES LATER FINDS OUT SUCH A THING EXIST.
GOD ONLY REVEALS HIMSELVES TO THOSE THAT EARNESTLY SEEK HIM IN TRUTH AND IN SPIRIT ( PALS DONT LET US ARGUE AGAIN ON THE EXISTENCE OF SPIRIT). AND THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIS EXISTENCE CAN ONLY COME TO A MAN BY FAITH. AND WHEN HIS REVELATION COMES YOU BEGIN TO FEEL HIM AND KNOW HIM BETTER. YOU CAN NEVER NEVER COME TO THE REALITY OF HIS EXISTENCE MY HUMAN KNOWLEDGE. AND NO MATTER HOW YOU DO NT BELIEVE HIS EXISTENCE IT CAN NEVER REMOVE ANYTHING FROM HIM. FINE YOU CAN HAVE EVERYTHING IN THIS WORLD AND STILL DON'T BELIEVE HE EXIST, IT STILL HAS NOT PROVEN ANY FACT THAT HE DOES NT EXIST.
NOTE. YOU CAN NEVER PROVE THAT GOD EXIST IN THE LAB, IN THE WORK SHOP, IN A REACTOR ETC ( THAT IS THE PROBLEM OF EV RY ATHEIST), THEY WANT A SCIENTIFIC PROVE AND GOD IS NOT A LAB MOUSE TO CONDUCT EXPERIMENT ON. TO SO MANY MILLIONS OUT THERE THAT HAS EXPERIENCE GOD, YOU CANT JUST TELL THEM THAT HE DOESNT EXIST JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT COME TO THE REALITY OF IT. I BELEIVE THERE IS NO AEITHEIST JUST A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT WILLING AND PATIENT TO EXPERIENCE THE AWSOMENESS AND THE BEAUTY OF HIS EXISTENCE.

MY PREDICTION ON THE MATCH.

ONE PERSON WILL WIN AND THE OTHER PERSON WILL LOSE.
ONE PERSON WILL QUALIFY IF THEY SCORE GOALS THE OTHER WILL LOSE IF THEY DONT SCORE GOALS.
THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED TOGETHER WILL BE THE ONE TO WIN, AND THE OTHER IF THEY DONT WORK TOGETHER WILL LOSE.

[quote author=South-East link=topic=774203.msg9270739#msg9270739 date=1317693188]I thought the other Yoruba newspaper article that we discussed in this forum says only SE and northern people were in Ghadaffi's army and that no SW and SS person agreed to join? Now if a this report is anything to go by, Braimoh Robinson Garba is Edo.

Anyways, how did they get the names of dead soldiers so accurately, especially when their names are foreign and therefore will not be even easy to pronounce by libyans. Another fake story by an Yoruba journalist Please do not tell me these mean were carrying id cards, for that is likely not possible.

Like I said, at the end of the day, Nigerians from all ethnicities will be found in Libyan's previous army, just like you will in the US, UK, etc armies. I rest my case[/quote]SORRY YOU HAVE NOT MADE ANY SENSE AT ALL. PLEASE RE-READ THE ARTICLE, HAVE A DEEP THOUGHT THEN COME OUT WITH SOMETHING SENSIBLE.

i AM A CHRISTIAN, I BELIEVE MORALLY THIS IS NOT RIGHT. LET US LIVE RELIGIOUS SENTIMENT OUT OF IT, IT IS JUST NOT RIGHT

ifyalways:
A car is the last thing I would take a loan for!As far as Ifeoma is concerned,a car remains a liability(be it for biz purporse or for comfort) and as such can only be purchased with "cash".

I'd rather manage my grnadpapa bicycle till whenever i save up to buy me my "tuke-tuke or chasis".

You better dont curse yourself for life
Must of the foreigners also buy with loan, its only a poor man that will collect loan to do bury ceremony, naming ceremony. But to buy car, build house and do business mbanu.
Dangote bought his yacht, trucks with loan and other things
Otedola do business with loan.
Deji, Jimoh Ibrahim etc,