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SIRcumalot:
Pompey always had an advantage in all his battle but he totally earned the Magnus he attached to his name.

oh purrrlease! magnus my foot duh! its just like DJ khaleed jingoing his "we the best" and like you noted, "HE" attached it to his name, it wasn't an official cognomen, those who used it were his bootlickers or those who wanted to flatter him, almost same thing as calling tinubu "jagaban".


What advantage did he have in all his battles? When younger he was brash and stupid! When older he was meticulous and careful but never brilliant! Military brilliance is when you win against great odds again and again! After spain, he never campaigned without numerical strength and that isn't the hallmark of any roman general of the marian doctrine! Remember, rome's military might was never in numbers, it was always in rigid discipline and tactics

And he could be very savvy but his mind was never in politics,
You could tell from the first triumvirate.

savvyness in pompey's terms is being short sighted, small minded and timid and his mind was always in politics and at the senatorial level he played well enough only problem being he wanted to be another gaius marius, to stand out, to earn the title "first man in rome" and thereby become the "fourth founder of the republic" but he didn't have the brilliance and discerning mind of marius, nor the begrudging respect of his opponents that marius had, he wasn't a well lettered man, he didn't have a legal career in the forum, didn't practice law drafting in the tribunate so he couldn't grasp many legal issues until it was used to trap him, then he'll resort to demagougery.

from the first triumvate, he was just a tool ceasar used and he didn't even know it though it was obvious to everyone else. He is like cersei lannister in the game of thrones who thinks that he/she is the major game player when actually they are just over glorified pawns okay let's make him a rook all ceasar did was trap him to his faction and interests by gifting him his daughter, a pure patrician bride of the mythically famous julias and before you start waxing lyrical about ceasar loving his daughter which he did, remember ceasar was a roman nobleman and to them daughters and sisters were just a little above bargaining chips traded for alliances and political goodwill for themselves and their sons. And with one julia, ceasar was able to leave rome for five years knowing his political interests would be protected by someone who should rightly have been his strongest opponent likewise crassus now if that isn't savvy, i don't know what else is and mind you, when julia died, the boni played that same card and gave him a patrician bride and got him singing kum ba ya to all their beats even turning him against his former father-in-law ceasar

I really would have love to read about crassus doomed campaign in Parthia.

crassus was a typical roman nobleman greedy for gold and glory, okay more greedy than most but only within the legal framework and senatorial norms and he was downright sensible! But he grew older, more greedy and less sensible and that is how he lost military focus in the campaign for gold in parthia! He never had a military pedigree in the first place with his only campaign being against the slave rebellion led by spartacus and that victory was orchestrated by his then legate......................."wait"............................."For".................................."It"..................... ceasar as was his popularity via stomach infrastructure of free grain during his first consulship so crassus as you see was an excellent businessman, a fair politician and a poor general hence the parthian disaster

Ha, mettulus piglet,Sulla did a number on that guy, see, this Is why he is my favorite character there is a mysticism about him.

yeah! i'll kill your dad and you'd be loving and hero-worshipping me ignorantly for being a perfect role model to your class and i thought you were anti-charisma.

It was in his eyes and the naked demon behind the facade of a nobleman he presented to the public, few who saw the true beast in his nature cared to see it again

I would pick Marius (his marriage to Julii kind of fix his image) his accomplishments are just to much and he save Rome every time.

FIRST MAN IN ROME AND THIRD FOUNDER OF THE REPUBLIC!!!!!!
Nothing more to add to that

I look at caesear and all I remember his Gaul,Pompey already softened Gaul before Caesar came there.
And then fought a past his prime Gnaeus in the civil war with my man Cato and the boni distracting Pompey.

pompey soften which gaul? When? FYI pompey campaigned in spain and was floundering like a floppy fish until sulla's student metellus piglet came to save him.
And don't down play ceasar's gaellic conquest, it was simply politico-military brilliance! He had only ten legions most times six to conquer and garrison two roman provinces (gaul across the alps, italian gaul) and many nations (parts of germania, barbarian gaul proper, brittania, belgae among others). Not just to garrison the roman provinces and protect them from barbarian invasions, invading barbarian countries, waging wars and winning, garrisoning them to forestall rebellion, defending those from other barbarian alliances, besieging and taking impregnable fortress after impregnable fortress in amazing feats of military engineering (he even traced, dug and damned the underground spring supplying water to one fortress) and all these with just ten legions! Please give him credit abeg! He earned it!

A past prime pompey? Is a general or commanding officer ever past his prime? A young pompey took on an old quintus sertorius in spain and was soundly trounced until metellus piglet came to rescue him, an older pompey took on a ceasar about ten to fifteen years younger than him and lost and you suggest age is the factor? Aaaw c'mon! The truth is looking at you man, sertorius and ceasar were marius-esque generals, pompey was not or how else would you explain his ten overstrength legions not getting beaten but getting soundly trashed by ceasars four understrength legions on a battlefield of his own choosing in greece?

I think your choice his based on charisma.

My only problem with this book is the names the triple naming system can be tasking to remember.

The clodii clan were also favourite of mine.

don't get me started on these kings and queens of weirdness

Drefan2:
Sorry, I don't have the link anymore but fortunately I have them all in my device. All of them are in epub format.

Why don't I upload them on datahost to save you the stress of searching out valid links and you just have to download?

SIRcumalot:
yeah but Sulla was also a patrician with no money and "allegedly" Performed some despicable act to get that money.
he is also a self made man in his own right.


Marius will win it though I also think Marius will defeat Caesear I have two books left but knowing how history goes he is past his best Caesar hasn't really impressed me so far.

my favourite characters
Sulla,Marius,Cato the younger(this dude is beyond crazy),Pompey(his antics are so funny),Caesar, Cicero speeches are also very entertaining and so many other characters in between,the series is truly great.

SIRcumalot:
apologies for my intrusion
Sulla is also my favourite.
unlike Marius,he knew when to give up power.
and he also caught jurgutha in their first campaign something he didn't get total credit for or when he infiltrated those either Germanic or Gaulish tribe the,Cambrian and Teutons.
also he won a grass crown bro.
his campaigns might have been easier compared to Marius''s but am picking Sulla,that guy rules!!!

SIRcumalot:
why do you want to do this to yourself mehn.
all the crackpot theory people who are obsessed with the series have been spinning are getting shut down one after the other by the TV show,every little thing to them na foreshadowing or double meaning.
even the TV show is probably cutting some of the useless plot Martin's use to bloat his book.

CorneliusSulla8:
I am both.
and Sulla is my favourite Roman character in both the semi fictionalized version and in Rome history

armadeo:
Will send a pm once am with my laptop. So I can mail it to you. Later tonight.

armadeo:
now reading a dance with dragons again. whew book 5. actually second time around and i realised i rushed through the last 2 books and missed alot.

i have to start again sometime soon. meanwhile i got the other asoiaf books mystery knight, a sworn sword and the world of ice and fire. will read those before i begin again. epic man epic.















meanwhile awaiting the winds of winter like mad. i might actually buy it not wiat for a download.

Gbola5:
I could send you the Dunk and Egg novellas. They are low size, and maybe. Most of the theories, biographies, subplots, are from my interaction in other ASOIAF forums, and discussions i'm in, not just Nairaland but, Reddit, Westeros.org, winteriscoming.net, asoiaf.westeros.net. not to mention A Song of Ice and Fire on Facebook We do a lot of theorizing and tinfoiling. Its a sad life i know, but its my favorite book/show series. So, what's the email.

Gbola5:
If you've read deep, each member(atleast main member) of the Brotherhood without Banners has a backstory or identity, except Lem. And no Lem isn't Tom O' Sevens. eg Beric is a Lord of House Dondarrion, Thoros came to King's Landing to convert people to R'hllor, Anguy is from the Dornish marches, Tom O' Sevens had a thing with Edmure Tully, Harwin amd Alyn were once in service at Winterfell, Jack be Lucky and his eye story, Edric is a Dayne and was named for Eddard, Lady Stoneheaet is UnCat and so on. Only thing we know of Lem is he had a wife and daughter and that he wears a yellow cloak. He definatily is more than that. And there was a time he talked of his dreams with the Ghost of Highheart.
Lem, is that you? Still wearing the same
ratty cloak, are you? I know why you
never wash it, I do. You’re afraid all the
piss will wash out and we’ll see you’re
really a knight o’ the Kingsguard!

Oh and have you read Dunk and Egg ? Might be i could send that too you. Or how about The World of Ice and Fire : History of the Known World by Maester Yandel ?

CorneliusSulla8:
How is lem lemoncloaks centeral to the plot ?

SIRcumalot:
I Don send am. Comot your mail @braniacx

oluamid:
I'm sorry I don't have the links. The books is too heavy to send via email too. Can be sent via bbm tho.

SIRcumalot:
drop your mail make I send am now.

SIRcumalot:
been reading this series off and on for 3 years now, only two books remaining for me. really good stuff
do you need that dangerous women book? cause I don't have it anymore.

Gbola5:
Try these.