₦airaland Forum

Omimah:
It's you people from the SE that think the north is polarized on religious lines when it comes to sharing power in the north. T. Y. Danjuma, David Mark, Paul Unongo, Solomon Lar, etc were/are northern christians but enjoy the support of the moslem dominated north. Sunday Awoniyi, a Yoruba christian from Kogi State was the chairman of the Arewa Consultative Forum. T. Y. Danjuma was once the chairman. The current one is also a christian.
In July 1966, Murtala Muhammed, a moslem led a coup d'état and handed over to Yakubu Gowon, a christian. In 1975, Joe Garba, a northern christian who co-ordinated the coup d'état that ousted Yakubu Gowon called on Murtala Muhammed to lead the country. Didn't he see T. Y. Danjuma, a northern christian of the same rank of Brigadier like Muhammed?
So far, norther Nigerian with 19 states, is the only part of the country with governors' forum. The 18 southern states don't have. The 6 states each in the SS and SW don't have. The 5 in the SE don't have.

Nigeria wasn't so polarised along religous lines back then as it is now, so what applied back then wouldn't and doesn't apply now, not after maitatsine, buhari, religous riots and murders, boko haram among others, am not from the north but have friends from there both christian and muslim, in recent years I have noticed my nothern christian friends getting edgy and defensive, they are also increasingly prone to anger and irritation against muslims in general and southern christians too who they feel have abandoned them in their struggle for survival against an ever encroaching and militant muslim majority in the north and if you've been following the news over the past two decades, you'll understand why.
Also, why should the fact that they hold ceremonial positions with little or no effective power like chairmanship of the ACF be celebrated when the real power (presidency) is reserved for the hausa\fulani oligarchy?

ratiken:
With the recent holier than thou attitude being put forward by Gov Fashola, It has become pertinent that we remind ourselves what manner of man he has been in the past 7.5 years.

1. It is on record that Tinubu is one of the most corrupt individual this country ever produced who went on an accumulation spree of every viable state asset. However, I wonder how a 'non corrupt' Fashola can seamlessly work with an extremely corrupt Tinubu for 8yrs without friction while they both accumulate all state assets to their personal names. Two cannot work together except they agree. It seems Tinubu accumulated more state resources under Fashola's tenure than his own tenure. One can categorically conclude that Fashola is either more corrupt than Tinubu or just a plain dummy/ foot soilder

2. There is still no justification to installing toll plazas on existing roads. The Lekki- Epe expressway that serves the fastest developing area of lagos state should have received fair and untolled attention but out of the dirtiness of heart of the corrupt duo of Fashola/ Tinubu.... it was tolled to their own company. When the masses trooped out to protest against it, Fashola's touts were unleashed on them even to the extent of death of a protester. If every state governor tolls roads which is a basic necessity like Fashola did..... ours would have been a mortgaged country

3. Till date, Fashola have refused to open up the state books to the public consistent with the Freedom of information bill adopted at the federal level. He has consistently and categorically refused to be accountable. For the records, LASG with monthly IGR and allocation of 29B and 19B respectively have managed approximately 4.5trillion in 7.5yrs. Unaccountability is the hallmark of irresponsible leadership.

4. How on earth can a sane governor deport non-indigenes within same country at the wee hours of the morning and dump them under a bridge. Every Nigerian indigene has the right to live in an part of the geographical location called Nigeria without a visa. It is also on record that this inhumane act have been carried out by just on governor in our history. .. which is Fashola. This act currently ranks as the highest breach of human rights in Nigeria.

5. Fashola adamantly approved a 1000% increase in the school fees rates for LASU students without any corresponding increase in wage rates. It took wide spread protest and unending strikes that forced the govt to its knee. This is the record increase of school fees in Nigeria and ranks the height of insensitivity

6. Lagos roads are repaired at 2billion/ km by the crony companies of Fashola/ Tinubu. Better roads are built allover the country at lesser rates. Height of lootocracy

The ease at which he criticizes the central govt without acknowledging any single achievement by same govt makes him a mere opposition figure who stands for nothing but mere propaganda.

Now I ask..... What are the highlights of Fashola's govt?
Lagos was a federal capital and Tinubu's govt was the height of hopelessness and such any any road repaired receives lots of hype. What key achievement would Fashola be remembered for?

I live in lagos and like many resident lagosians, I've got nothing but praise 4 fashola but the issues u raised are pertinent and demands consideration leading me to wonder, is anything ever what it seems?

ratiken:
With the recent holier than thou attitude being put forward by Gov Fashola, It has become pertinent that we remind ourselves what manner of man he has been in the past 7.5 years.

1. It is on record that Tinubu is one of the most corrupt individual this country ever produced who went on an accumulation spree of every viable state asset. However, I wonder how a 'non corrupt' Fashola can seamlessly work with an extremely corrupt Tinubu for 8yrs without friction while they both accumulate all state assets to their personal names. Two cannot work together except they agree. It seems Tinubu accumulated more state resources under Fashola's tenure than his own tenure. One can categorically conclude that Fashola is either more corrupt than Tinubu or just a plain dummy/ foot soilder

2. There is still no justification to installing toll plazas on existing roads. The Lekki- Epe expressway that serves the fastest developing area of lagos state should have received fair and untolled attention but out of the dirtiness of heart of the corrupt duo of Fashola/ Tinubu.... it was tolled to their own company. When the masses trooped out to protest against it, Fashola's touts were unleashed on them even to the extent of death of a protester. If every state governor tolls roads which is a basic necessity like Fashola did..... ours would have been a mortgaged country

3. Till date, Fashola have refused to open up the state books to the public consistent with the Freedom of information bill adopted at the federal level. He has consistently and categorically refused to be accountable. For the records, LASG with monthly IGR and allocation of 29B and 19B respectively have managed approximately 4.5trillion in 7.5yrs. Unaccountability is the hallmark of irresponsible leadership.

4. How on earth can a sane governor deport non-indigenes within same country at the wee hours of the morning and dump them under a bridge. Every Nigerian indigene has the right to live in an part of the geographical location called Nigeria without a visa. It is also on record that this inhumane act have been carried out by just on governor in our history. .. which is Fashola. This act currently ranks as the highest breach of human rights in Nigeria.

5. Fashola adamantly approved a 1000% increase in the school fees rates for LASU students without any corresponding increase in wage rates. It took wide spread protest and unending strikes that forced the govt to its knee. This is the record increase of school fees in Nigeria and ranks the height of insensitivity

6. Lagos roads are repaired at 2billion/ km by the crony companies of Fashola/ Tinubu. Better roads are built allover the country at lesser rates. Height of lootocracy

The ease at which he criticizes the central govt without acknowledging any single achievement by same govt makes him a mere opposition figure who stands for nothing but mere propaganda.

Now I ask..... What are the highlights of Fashola's govt?
Lagos was a federal capital and Tinubu's govt was the height of hopelessness and such any any road repaired receives lots of hype. What key achievement would Fashola be remembered for?

I live in lagos and like many resident lagosians, I've got nothing but praise 4 fashola but the issues u raised are pertinent and demands consideration leading me to wonder, is anything ever what it seems?

SamIkenna:
Its a shame some folks would rather pretend they were from the moon.

Less divisive people like Chime, Fashola, Duke, Fayemi, Mimiko, Ribadu, Ata, Utomi, Akume, etc - these are people I'll vote for any time. Even Ogbeni, I'm willing to vote for him. Obi recently messed up by joining PDP but still, I'm willing to forgive overlook that. The people I mentioned above - I will vote for before considering Buhari and my reasons are simple:

Buhari is an ethnic champion, a Fulani supremacist, and a sharia monger. Ogbeni, in my consideration, is openly religious but you never hear him talk religion, and for that reason I'm comfortable with him knowing that he considers my interest. But Buhari....what you see is what you get. He may arguably be the most virtuous contestant but in the world we currently live, in this current climate of extreme political Islam, all non-muslims and serious secular minded individuals should be wary of folks who overtly or covertly tilt towards Islamofacism, Islamic domination, or sharia implementation. Its a pity that people who, either because of their peculiar history, have a much favorable disposition to Islam and all its variants have decided to cast aspersions on others who're wary of Buhari, sharia, or Islam in its entirety.

In some of my posts I stated how much I feel for the general. Buhari as a person is perhaps a great individual. However, in Nigeria's political sphere being great or just a nice person or whatever is not enough because our country is a mosaic of diverse and, oftentimes, mortal enemies. For the above reason, any individual seeking for a position at the center must never be seen as belonging to any of the extreme poles. Buhari is seen that way and this is what many of his supporters are not willing to accept. Hating on non-supporters of Buhari or insinuating that non-supporters of the general are thieves who're afraid of him is absurd. Yea, maybe some are - I don't know. But at the same time there're many of us whose parents were receiving birth certificates when Buhari was taking over as military head of state, now tell me -what is it did I steal to be scared of the general?

My candid give-away for Buhari's supporters is the following:
(1) Buhari is highly polarizing (that's a fact not assumption) and as such will be almost impossible to return for the second time as Nigeria's president irrespective of who he picks as VP.
(2) Paring him with another muslim will not only make his chances exponentially impossible, it will quickly disintegrate Nigeria if such combo wins, which I think could win.

Let me expatiate a bit on the following statements - "exponentially impossible," and its seeming contradiction, "which I think could win."

Let's try to be objective for a minute. We know that GEJ's support is strong in SE & SS. Middle Belt and SW have some support for GEJ but it still could go either way especially in SW. So, for that reason let's give GEJ a chunk of Middle Belt and let SW muslims go to Buhari. Now that leaves SW Christians in play. Given this scenario, if Buhari pairs with a South West Muslim its obvious that all of SW, NE, NW, and a good chunk of NC is going his way and this is enough to beat GEJ. But then another headache sets in: will SE & SS, the two predominantly Christian enclaves, watch idly while 'their dark' day unfolds? Folks, your answers are as good as mine - its game over.

Now, this is the "exponential impossibility" I was talking about: you win and lose - simultaneously! This is not USA or Europe. No strong enclave is going to play dead in this century. We see what happened in CAR and many more so its imperative we ponder on the outcome of some choices before thinking we can easily force it down the throat of others.

Buhari is a pill most of us will never in a million years accept. And accompanying the general down our throat paired with another muslim as VP, especially now that we're much more wary and apprehensive of extreme Islam (and for good reasons)? Wow! you've got to be kidding - that's practically saying good-bye to Nigeria as a union.

My brother, I must profoundly apologise for having not more than 1 like and 1 share to acknowledge this brilliant piece of analysis

elobyobi:
Na ur own post come short abi?

@ least I no come form say I dey too busy dey do other far more important tins so make everybody dey greatfull say i take time out of my busy schedule take relate with dem for nairaland, even though I actually dey very busy doing far more important stuff

Idyllic:
Are you alright? Stop spewing rubbish. U're obviously oblivious of how Medicine work. Medicine is highly regulated all over d world. Medical students over d world do basically d same courses, with few peculiarities 4rm country 2 country.I wouldn't av replied u but ur lies were so infuriatN dat it overcame my reluctance 2 reply & I decided 2 reply.I'm tellN u dis in case u reply my post,it might take many days b4 I c it & I might not av time 2 reply. BraniacX, u're a very clinical liar, u can lie oo. Nigerian trained doctors pass foreign medical exams so well dat in d U.S and U.K 4 example, Nigerian trained medical doctors 4m d bulk of foreign doctors workN in these countries. I'm not just talkN unfounded rumours. I'm talkN about published facts & figures. In fact,there was 1 published some time ago comparN d performanC of Doctors 4rm different countries in USMLE. I saved it but unfortunately, I'm not typN with my system I would av attached it. In fact, recently, d President was decryN d situatN sayN dat Nigerian doctors are so many in oda countries while we don't av enough doctors @ home. Doctors leave Nigeria in droves every year 2 greener pasture (Beta workN conditN, facilities, remuneratN & d health workers are contented with doiN their work. No unhealthy rivalry with doctors). There is a paucity of doctors in Nigeria yet we can't attract foreign doctors. They can't work in d conditNs Nigeria doctors are workN. It's so terrible dat d few doctors dat decide 2 stay are overworked. Even, ur fellow JOHESUITE, Mr Akintayo or 1 of those ur fellow doctor-wannabes, in 1 of their hate-filled speech was sayN dat after government spent so much in trainN doctors because their tuitN fee e.t.c are subsidized, they turn their back on d country by runnN abroad. Y won't they run abroad, when doctor-wannabes are not givN dem rest of mind & saner societies need their services. Just few weeks ago, David Cameron was sayN they need more foreign doctors because U.K is not trainN enough doctors locally and guess where they will get these doctors from, mostly Nigeria & India. Nigeria & India 4m d highest No of doctors 4rm developN countries workN in d U.S & U.K. Nigerian trained doctors pass d foreign medical licensN exams(USMLE, PLAB, MCEE, AMCE, NZREX e.t.c) very well. & after trainN in dis harsh environment,when they get 2 these saner climes,they shine because conditNs overthere are very encouragN (good workN conditNs,latest medical equipments, good doctor-patients ratio,good remuneratN & better conditN of service generally). D reason rich people travel outside d country is because d medical equipments, facilities & amenities in our hospitals are in a sorry state. Many things dat are suppose 2 help diagnosis & treatment are not in place. D facilities are inadequate & outdated. I think I should stop here, I av much things 2 tell u but time is of essence, I need 2 get back 2 readN.. My broda is also a 'JOHESUITE' while I'm a Medical student but we don't 8 each oda.So, I don't 8 JOHESUITES. I only wish JOHESUITES will stop beefN doctors. Let us all try to b happy with our jobs. Every professN av their pros & cons.

your post is far 2 long 4 some1 who has little or no time 2 dillydally with pwoor lwowly me. Lolz,
u leave me little space 2 reply with, all i read is blah blah blah blah balderdash!
Try breakN ur posts next time so dat d ignorant uneducated members of public lyk me would follow sequentially.
Seriously! u had to go do a fillibuster on me? hahahahaha! Hahahaha!
How ironic! All i have ever asked u & ur NMA colleagues 2 do is 2 put patient care b4 proffesional pride but all i always get in response are u drawing parrallels spawned either 4rm ur ignorance, misinformatN or both so here is a list of things u can do when u av d time don't worry, they shouldn't take u long,
1. Publish ur current 6yr curriculum & compare it 1st, 2 d curriculum say 25yrs ago, 2nd, 2 d current curriculum of a typical american medical college.
2. Post d publication showN how well our & i quote "solely Nigerian trained doctors with no additional trainN abroad" do in d above mentioned liscencN exams(LWKMD , seriously, i must b livN in a bubble or com 4rm Mars 4 me not 2 av noticed dat outside govt hospitals, there're far 2 many Nigerian doctors on d streets carryN their CV's around FMCs job huntN or oh! Dat's right, we still in d 80's & every newly graduated doctor is a rockstar! afterall by reason of ur argument they should be in d UK,US living d good life in saner greener pastures hahahaha! , + i never knew equipments @ UCH, LUTH, ABUTH, UNNTH UATH were unavailable our outdated oh! Look 4 anoda excuse abeg)

if u must know, am a doctor of optometry . . . O-P-T-O-M-E-T-R-Y. gottit? I dont belong 2 johesu & ur pissing contest with dem is irrelevant 2 me. Aiite!
re: hate u & ur NMA? Cmon! dat's so beneath me.
Gud luck with ur studies, am sure u'll find time to reply me sooner than later.

enigmaotr:
Of course,it hasn't improved a bit since d inceptN of dis regime.B4 2007 when d state govt completed d new power statN,we do experience power outage wheneva d power statN-in a neighbourN state- needed 2 shed som load! All dat is no more.It's here 1st b4 anywhere now.I only answered ur 1st questN.

which state are u in? am guessN oyo,am askN cos i need 2 verrify ur claim.U said d power comes 2 u 1st b4 anywhere else "now" implyN improved supply as compared 2 b4 2007 when u were supplied 4rm a neighbourN state & experienced outages so how come u say ur electricity supply hasn't improved since d inceptN of dis regime ?

Who in d oppositN will cry blue murder if d FG creates laws 2 protect d masses?
U 4got 2 mention dat no 1 pays maintenance fees 2 enjoy MTN or GLO services.They install their mast all @ their own cost.B4 I make calls,I know what would cost me.I'm a prepaid customer & I pay nothN else dan what's necessary.If I get charged unnecessarily,I get my money back.EverythN is subject 2 stated terms & conditNs.What are d terms & conditNs of these Discos?

what u said in an earlier post implied dat d govt should rule with assertN & issue decrees if neccesary because we as Nigerians wouldn't comply otherwise so i asked will d oppositN allow d goverment issue military style decrees & edicts in order 2 do what is right without cryN blue murder? In a democracy? +, U do pay MTN & GLO maintainanC fees,it's just not labelled as such,if u doubt me,try usiN both networks in say ghana,& compare d cost with whats obtained here. Anyway who do u pay maintainanC fees 2? Is it d govt? D power companies? Or is it ur community trans4mer maintainanC commiTi? If it's what i suspect(No .3) den u've & are being duped with ur willfull complianC bt if in d unlikely case dat it's d previous 2,den u might actually av an actNable case so quickly go report it 2 d NERC & let dem take it up 4rm there or alternatively call in2 a live radio or TV programme hostN their reprensentative & demand actN.
As d customer of a telecom or power company,u've entered in2 a contract with dat company & it's stated in ur sim pack 4 d telecom company & ur electronic billN meter 4 ur power company & if u don't av it,u can/should request 4 it.

Moreover,in Capitalist system of d US,they still av laws protectN consumers 4rm exploitatN.Not 2 mentN dat our govt still spend heavily on dis "privatized" sector.Y? Which market 4ce is pushN up d tariff?
In capitalism,d govt can set price ceilNs in important sectors lyk dis.D power sector is still more lyk a monopoly,unlyk d Telecomm which is operatN somethN close 2 CompetitN.In a competitive market, where demand is elastic,an operator can't increase its tariff without consequent decline in demand.@ home,IBEDC is d sole distributor.How's dat a competitN? What works in Telecomms won't work in d Power sector.1 is sort of a luxury,while d oda is necessity. Electricity is a public goods,just like educatN & health.U don't leave all dat in d hands of profit-makers,otherwise it becomes 2 expensive & consequently affect productivity & efficiency.D govt can leave d GeneratN 4 private companies & state govts who're willN,but d distributN should b d responsibility of d Govts.@ least,4 now.

govt(FG & state) doesn't make laws,they propose bills &make policies,d legistlature makes dem laws & d justice dept & judiciary see 2 their en4cement.D oppositN is more dan well represented in legistlature,if d FG has failed 2 protect u 4rm dis "supposed" exploitatN,y hasn't d oppositN esp ur fedral & state representatives legistlated 2 dat effect? Is it because lyk d rulN govt they see no exploitatN? Is it because they are beneficiaries of d said exploitatN? Or is it because either u've not put enof effort in2 lettN dem know or maybe because there simply is no exploitatN 2 protect u 4rm?
U must undestand dat d govt is divestN itself 4rm d power companies in stages & our lack of surpportN infrastructure means they still av 2 do tins lyk lay gas pipelines 2 power plants & dis partly explains d money u see dem spend +, many state govts are co owners & av stakes in d power companies so in many cases, it's a partnership arrangement.
Given d xtra cost d companies av 2 bear 2 bring d power sector up 2 scratch, am sure u'll understand if d govt allows d companies a bit more flexible billN regime 4 customers in order 2 make it more attractive 4 d companies 2 invest given d deficit of infracstructural backbone 4 d industry and dat is y d NERC'll b as succesfull in regulatN d power companies 2 suit ur taste & desires as d NCC is in regulatN d telecom companies,afterall,billN has 2 b relative 2 d consumer market.
Agreed, there can't b a practicable 4m of competitN,dats y ur state govt being their partners is being encouraged as a 4m of subsidy 4 us + aren't u tired of d FG operatN & sinkN funds in2 d sector with no result?

Yes we were.

by d govt or d company?
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pachuete:
optometry huh? ohhhh Dats ryt u guys make eye glasses for a living........ just like wat welders do only with different tools and implements......... sorry........u don't get to do d cool stuffs. And yes u definitely applied for medicine and u got served..if u like keep ranting on, there is relatively nothing u can do about this issue.....doctor are d top in d health sector and there is no competing dat.......and a word of advice if I may....pls go and have a career change or something.... u sitting do wn all day building glasses for ppl.....is just plan ridiculous and if u like be in d British optometry council I don't fucking care.......lolz...........u just stay around while d opthalmologist does d cool stuff..... #
# what a pity!!.......just pathetic man........and hei ur thinking is shitty and it is alimentary canals not elementary american optometry fellow......!

boo hoo hoo!
See me cry!
Hahahahahahahaha!
Somebody should pls give him a cupcake for being so correctly alimentary.
What cool stuff? Is it misdiagnosing a patient? Bungling patient care leading to death? Forgetting swabs and surgical blades in a patients body cavity? Is it being obviously inept and confused when confronted with rare conditions and sometimes even trauma cases? Is it stitching someone up so badly that you create lumps, fault lines, ridges and what not on their bodies?
No dude! I don't wanna be you, am happy with who i am and also, your advice was uhm........totally uneccesary, i know where to do my schooling should i ever want to be a medic.

Also Dude, i'll gladly defer authority anytime anyday to an American/European trained Nigerian Ophthamologist, they know and are "cool" @ their stuff and respect is mutual between me and them, they know am the primary eyecare provider and their patients(pathologic) come to them through me by way of referal
but as for your Nigerian trained eye gougers a.k.a ophthamologists, hmmm, . . . . . . .what can i say? their records speak for themselves besides, they are easy to identify among foreign trained ophthamologists in a hospital setting, u know, the typical pride, arrogance, disrespect amongsts other stuff, bottomline, if you know your onions, you wouldnt have to throw your weight around like your NMA contemporaries, u wouldn't have to engage in a pissing contest with other hospital staff like your NMA contemporaries because everyone around you will recognize you for who and what you are - the primus inter pares, so the doctors who engage in what is it? aha! the pissing contest only show themselves for what they are - well educated incompetents. Anyway, show your faith in them, if you must, if you have a family member, friend or acquaintance in need of say, a trabeculectomy or basic cataract extraction e.t.c, take him/her to one of your Nigerian trained ophthamologist, i dare you to, and we'll see how gratefull they'll be to you.

Now that you have established that am not a JOHESUITE and have nothing at stake here, you can take some advice from me, try and discipline yourself and be a pride to your proffession by concentrating primarily on patient care, re-educating yourself ethically and equiping yourself with more information/knowledge than is available to you @ your pathetic med school then maybe one day, you'll be worth knowing and earn my respect and if and when that day comes, whenever you hear NMA or JOHESU call for a strike, you'll just sigh and say "NOT AGAIN!".

enigmaotr:
It hasn't improved a bit, though we enjoy constant power supply, 22hours/day on the average, it dates back to as far as I can remember.


The FG has burdened itself with so much responsibilities, but performed less. It's the responsibility of the FG, though states make efforts too. I enjoy improved power supply, thanks to my state government.


The FG can do it if they wish. They know how to get things done when the need arises. For example, the FG controls NERC, the agency responsible for the regulation of the power sector. The hiking of the tariff is not without the consent of the NERC. It was done to please the investors at the detriment of the masses. From the increment of tariff to that of maintenance fee to spending billions of Naira on the supposedly private companies, leaves much to be desired. We were promised, repaid meters one month after the privatization. Where are they now?


We are neither getting better nor cheaper power supply. Nothing but the prices has changed! Who suffers? The consumers!
In the UK, the people don't buy transformers, we do here. They do not bill people on estimation, we do here. I contributed N20,000 in March this year towards the purchase of our faulty transformer after two months in darkness. And you know what, we got our bills for April! This wont happen in the UK. I've been away from home since August now, but the bills keeps pouring in. And someone will be expecting me to pay for services I didn't enjoy?
In the UK, you get bills for services you utilise! In the UK, my consumption wont except 150kw/month on the average, but here? Nothing less than 280!
Here we don't get value for our money, but over there, they do.

first your power supply had not improved much over the years even @ a constant 22 hours a day then you have been enjoying improved power supply thanks to your state goverment, na wa oh! Is it now 25 hours a day?

Also, the FG can make decrees without the opposition crying blue murder abi? And you want NERC to regulate electricity tarriffs to suite you just the way NCC was able to "successfully" regulate mobile phone tarriffs before and during the tenure of the current goverment abi? No make me laugh abeg so what role(s) is/are competition and market forces supposed to play then? Abi we are now operating a socialist cum capitalist economy now ehn? I thought it was capitalist oh!

Were you promised prepaid meters by the goverment or the operators? Just asking sha oh!

About you paying for your own transformer, thats a real pity, but i beleive over 95% of Nigerians make use of transformers paid for by the different tiers of goverment.

The main point you should have made is that the goverment at all levels have a duty to make the operators honour the terms of their contract and provide constant light to us. Also you have impressed on me that you are a Nigerian who pays his/her bills and does his/her civic duties, what about the i dare say, over 45% who enjoy the same services as you do illegally without paying a dime while having same expectations as u do? Did you factor them into your calculations? If you did, what are the ramifications?

pachuete:
wow! am applauding your not so stupid ass.....am lemme guess some dude who applied for medicine but got statistics handed to him........if u really understand where am coming from u wouldn't really open ur rat hole of a mouth blabbing shit............d consumers are d grass in dis issue so shut ur mouth or someone will for u. In every organisation there is always a head now is it wrong for 8yrs trained professionals to be d head in dis case......! u are just some ignorant mediocre Nigerian who has a thorough personality issues I suggest u help ur sef......oh I forgot u don't know how to

ooooh! touched a raw nerve did i?

I guess the cap fits you afterall doesn't it?

Methinks the two ends of your elementary canal carry out reverse roles meaning you shit with your mouth and talk with your ass. . . DAMN!!, where is that stenchometer? It reeks in here!...............where.......where .....where.........did.........i.........put......it?............AHA!! finally, let me check the amount of stench this oaf brought into this forum..... WHAT!!! OF THE SCALE!!! Gotta go get me full hamzat gear with air tight facemask. Am out!!

Re: u spent 8 years learning outmoded practices and proceedures so what?
I raised pertinent issues which all simply translate into this - our "Nigerian trained" doctors are incompetent and unproffesional and most skipped ethics class in school. And all you could come up with is you were trained for 8 years so you must be the boss Tell me, how do you compare with your American colleagues who went to medical school for 5years? Will you also b the boss of such a contemporary in the same setting given your 8year training? LMFAO
also if you must know, medicine aint that hard to gain admission to study here, i once did but ignorantly turned it down(not a school of my choosing) and my "ignorance" was GOD blessing me in disguise or i would have ended up like you . . INCOMPETENT!!

Also, am a fellow of both the Nigerian and American Optometry Associations meaning, i also went through 8 years of training too.
How mediocre a Nigerian am i now?

docsholz:
you're arguing with an ignoramus

me ignoramus?
Hahahahahahaha!
Only if you knew me, u might actually bite of your tounge

ogaofficer:
i mean we dont have doctors that can perform hemispherectomy in our government and private. hospital

and when you locate those able doctors, kindly ask them whether or not any aspect of their training was done abroad.

adepiero:
forget this sermon! Obasanjo was also a dictator and he ruled under Democratic government for 8years!!! Since GEJ came to power, what positive transformation has he achieved?
lemme give you negatives of GEJ led government:

longest strike action in the two most important sectors of the economy "health and education"

Insecurity and abduction "bokoharam"

Massive theft of public fund "missing $20bn, $700m kerosene subsidy, aviation minister looting, $15m arms deal laundry... etc"

Immigration tragedy

the list is endless. and you want me to vote that loser that had no shoes but now he has a mansion full of shoes and he still wants to take the one the masses are managing! NEVER! I won't make such a mistake.

and which obasonjo regime was by far more successfull, the military or the civillian?

jumpmasta:
Then I guess you don't understand that you only have to pass the United states medical licensing Exams to work in USA..all foreign trained Medical Graduates also partake in it. Then when you say 99 percent of Drs working in Nigeria are not capable..then you of all people are most Ignorant.I can't help you...

sorry, i neither need nor want your help. Guy i said 99% of "Nigerian trained" medical doctors fail the licencing exams. Quote me anytime anyday "99%" and trust me, am well informed.
U can go and write the exams lets see if the stats i posted are wrong, maybe you think it is the routine anatomy, physiology, pathology, pharmacology and what not you were taught here in Nigeria. Go, write it and pass at 3 attempts and prove me wrong.

Kcinho:
I solemnly swear that you are ignorant.

lets for the sake of argument pretend am both foolish and ignorant. Oya, enlighten me na, prove my assertion as being wrong and/or falsehoods or if u can't, you wear those tags . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . PERMANENTLY!!

Mtcheeeeeeew!!

Typical nigerian trained quack(doctor) with the pride of a peacock!

adepiero:
Sincerely speaking, power has increased a bit under GEJ led govt but power is not the only sector needing assistance. the bottom line is that GEJ has no manifesto or guide to good leadership and he has no good track record judging from his days as a deputy governor till date. Buhari might be a dictator but everyone will agree that he has a road map of how the country needs to be in terms of transformation and you'll agree that Nigerians are pigheaded and need a strong hand to guide us right.

i don't agree that buhari has a roadmap to better the country.
Buhari is a dictator and this is a democracy with a vibrant pro active opposition so tell me, how does buhari intend to make democracy where the opposition might just decide to oppose you on principle work for him?
Is it by strong arming or bullying people? Won't work and remember, anybody with half the will can make dictatorship work so buharis "alleged" success is no big deal given the context of the polity of the day but ask yourself this question, at what cost? Is it at the cost of abuse of peoples rights? At the cost of misscariage of justice and/or injustice? Remember the old saying that the worst democracy is better than the best dictatorship? U think that is just empty talk? If he got in and gave you these things u say we're lacking, do you think you still wont crave and value your lost freedom and rights more? U never know what you have until you lose it. So about Nigerians needing a strong arm yes just not buhari's arm.
I'll leave you with this parting shot. It's better to find a guilty man innocent than to find an innocent man guilty so be carefull of the anti-corruption crusader you ask for, you or someone you know might end up being innocent victims of his overzealous crusade.

Confam old mile. E even use style resemble man sef.

Confam old mild. E even use style resemble man sef.

adepiero:
back then we had a transformer as well and we never for once shared light until last year! improvement should be spontaneous and not niggardly

well, if i daresay(i might be wrong though) your area is one of very few oddities where power supply has actually decreased when compared to what was previously obtained. No wahala sha. Question is, who do u think will improve it and remember, your state govt has a role to play too.

enigmaotr:
If Metu does not know that Nigerians are economically worse-off now than in 1999, he's the one been economical with the truth.

This doesn't make any sense to people who have been affected by the poor income distribution in this administration. Jonathan taking glory for making Nigeria the number one Economy in Africa! What exactly did he do than rebasing?
I've been virtually to all the States of the Federation -including FCT- in the Last 3 Months and I've met, and sometimes overheard people complain of this regime! What do they complain about most? Economic hardship! The few people who supports him are doing so based on sentiments.
People are longing for a change and that's the reality on ground.
For God sake, we were generating 1600mw in 1999 and still stuck at 3000 mw after 15years? How long shall it be to get to 30000mw? SMH

tell me to the best of your knowledge, which current regime has not been adjudged worse than the preceeding regime in the eyes of common Nigerians on the streets in recent memory?
When was the last time, a current regime was better than "the good old days of yore"?

Simple fact, to Nigerians, every current regime is the worst ever and some years later, they'll be singing praises of that same regime when comparing it with the goverment of the day.
Re-evaluate your objectivity and by association, your assesment dude.

bnovative:
state ur facts with source.

his source is the goverment ingratiating iron-fisted goverment controlled media of buharis regime as against the free for all privately owned majority media of jonathan's regime.
We can choose which media to beleive.

bnovative:
Tell us how buhari had curbed corruption bw 1983-1985. Giving out 80% of the ptf contract to northerners with no little or no technical skills is no corruption right?

thanks for corroborating my claims

bnovative:
calling him a toddler doesn't suggest u are mature, present verifiable facts to show what ur hero buhari achieved bw 1983-1985. We know it's never about performance, it's about power returning to the north. The born to rule mentality of the north is going to run this country under ground.

my pregnant mum was imprisoned for 6 months for having her signature forged on documents clearing imported goods out of a nigerian port as a transporter even when she wasn't around to append her signature to the document. Even with evidence showing that she was at the general hospital having my then 2 year old elder sister admitted for treatment on that day of all days (GOD works in mysterious ways), they still locked her up, even after the real culprits were tracked, found with the missing vehicle, some of the stolen goods and arrested after their confessions attesting to my mums innocence, they still locked her up for her inability to come up with the N60,000 bail set for her release (trust me, this was a huge amount in 1985). Seeing the injustice, the greek and german owners of the company owning the stolen goods, came up with the money and aggressively lobbied the authorities before they reluctantly agreed to release my 8 months pregnant mother after conducting a medical test to confirm that an obviously 8 months pregnant woman was truly pregnant and ought to be released (on a hefty bail).
After releasing my mother on bail, no futher charges were brought up against her till date, though some of the anti-corruption task force and policemen accused my mum of being too bold to be doing buisness in an area which should exclusively be a mans domain but actually, that doesn't constitute into a crime, does it?
I was born a month after my mother was released from prison on bail.
And on my father's vehement insistence, my mum called it quits with her transport buisness after that incident after she rationalized that she was only saved by GOD seeing as she had no powerfull backers to protect her. Bottom line, she decided she would rather be a broke living mother to her kids than be a rich dead or imprisoned mother, and that is how the dreams of a budding young entrepreneur was snuffed out.

This was done under the regime of general buhari so u can all vote for gmb if you beleive mass miscarriage of justice (other people have their own tales to tell too) is equivalent to anti corruption and discipline. go ahead and vote for him, if you beleive that every single position/opportuinity should be held by a nothern hausa/fulani muslim(check his record, his nepotism is unrivaled my source is once again my mum who said and i quote "jobs and contracts with goverment parastatals dried up, you can queue from morning to evening and receive no notice but an hausa man will come by 3:50pm shout rankadede to everybody and receive the job everbody had been lobbying for all day, so every non hausa could only work with private firms" vote for gmb. I have been reading messages on this thread and so far, no one has accused gej of nepotism meaning under his leadership, Nigerians of all tribes and religions have equal opportuinities and we also have freedom of expression an association.

So am not asking for your forgiveness if i don't buy your anti-corruption and disciplinarian gibberish about gmb and proactively campaign against him, maybe that is one of the reasons i and my mother survived.

This is my own personal story and if gmb succeeds in entering Aso rock come 2015, be it on your heads. You'll be reaping what you sowed.

CHIKENA!!

jumpmasta:
mmmhhh...Devil will be ashamed of your lies..Keep Drs out of our Mess abeg..for your info..I know too well that Nigerian Drs are shining beacons in USA and Europe..so face the govt jaare..Hopeless JOHESUITE

hahahahaha! I Laugh in sanskrit. U're funny dude, did i say Nigerian doctors are not doing well abroad? Read well ma guy, my condemnation was for Nigerian trained doctors working in Nigeria and i guess u're one of them. Go and ask our Nigerian beacons in the medical proffesion abroad where they acquired the medical certificates they used to gain employment from, whether it was a Nigerian or U.S/European medical college certificate.

And who says am a JOHESUITE? Damn! Typical NMAITE(might be wrong on that though) Attacking the messenger while completely ignoring the message. Shame on you!
Re: the devil would actually be terribly dissapointed with the truths i told.

enigmaotr:
The buck still stops at the FG table who programmed the discos to fail. The discos are making money from inefficiency and do not need to perform better. Tell your government to create laws that'll protect its citizens from extortion from the Discos. The billing rates has doubled in less than a year, the maintenance fee is now N850 and N650 for metered and unmetered consumption respectively. What are they maintaining? As far as electricity distribution is concerned, most people still buy their transformers, erect poles and even do the servicing from their own pockets. All the discos do is bring bills. Nigerians don't get value for their money.

question is and i need the GOD honest truth here, has power supply improved in your area or not?

The buck stops at the presidency yes, are you not implying that the buck has been shoved away at council, local and state goverments, rep and senatorial levels of goverment and representation? Or are those levels inconsequential?

Is it the presidency that solely creates laws? Where is your district senator and representative both at state and fedral levels placed in this equation? Or maybe the presidency should just issue military style decrees right?

And also, were u promised cheaper power supply or better power supply? Just asking. Everything has a price you know, if you lived in the U.K for example and paid taxes for every creature comfort, u won't complain.

meek2stylee:
in anambra where my family leaves at onitsh electric supplly improve and with d construction of power plants in d states it is goin to get even better,,,,,,,,,,,at Ibadan where i live guys it is light atleast 20hrs in a day,,,,,,,,,coming to agriculture nigeria has d highest rice farm in progress,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,pls lets make use of d internet for goood reasons,,,,,,,and let dis f00ls called moneyticians stop fooling us,,,,,,,,,,,u said GEJ is a corrupt leader buh d truth be told d corruptions at d our street lvl is worst,,,,,,,,,its a nigerian mentality,,,,,,,,,,,buh to me GEJ is d best president naija has seen,,,,u have ur freedom,,,,,,,,hw many opposition has been murdered or forcefully detained,,,,,,,dat man is really democratic and for u to tink he alone can do it it is all lies,,,,,,,,,,what of our senators and house of reps,,he cant do anything without dem,,,and dat is democracy,,,,pls lets make constructive debates and not insults

my guy! May d fires that stoke your intellect burn hotter and brighter than a thousand suns jare! Thumbs up to you bro.
They just choose not to notice how democratic and free this goverment is, even to the point of swallowing numerous untold personal insults, character assasinations and what not, the opposition enjoy insulting the presidency and the country to everybodies hearing especially foreign goverments and what not. In which developing/developed democracies is insulting your country = opposition?

Gbawe:
It seems most posters replying here have missed the main point. Is this hasty rebuttal, above everything else, not illustratively indicative of how the PDP is very scared of Buhari? when they have a rebuttal for Buhari's 'outdooring' speech even before the General finished making it, can APC supporters not see the big picture to discern what matters instead of coming here to engage scared TANdroids and Jonathanians in senseless back and forth? Think people, think !!! Buhari is acting like a President in waiting and the PDP, with their actions and full attention focused on him completely , are showing they are fearful this is the case also.

Does the speed with which this rebuttal appear not show a fearful government that has ordered all its sycophants and expensively paid 'mouthpieces' to watch exactly and obsessively what Buhari says and does so as to find a way to counter any possible 'damage' the same way most football managers facing Messi may obsessively watch tapes of the maestro footballer so as to devise a way to stop him?

Can we also not see that the PDP is not a serious ruling Party? Rebuttal for Buhari's presidential declaration speech ready in seconds after the General finished talking yet weeks before anything was said about the disappearance of the Chibok girls while years after the shameful event no single fuel subsidy scammer has being brought to book !!!! Think well-meaning Nigerians and see what you need to see !!! The evil looters who want things to remain as they are, so the looting can continue, are already at work. It will be up to all of you to raise your game and see/note what matters.

PDP didn't just make a speedy rebuttal, they also wrote buhari's lie choked speech for him that is why they had ready made rebuttals before the end of the speech infact buhari is a PDP sponsored candidate.

Apc= bunch`o'jokers

adepiero:
Big lies from PDP! we have a transformer in my estate yet we share light (2days on, 1day off) even the ratio no reach 24hrs. so where is the light going?

2 days on 1 day off, lucky chap, so what're u complaining about? Question u should be asking is Back in 1999 or 2009, was light more constant in your estate? Is it better or worse now compared to them, give us the GOD honest answer then we can analyse from there. In my area in lagos, there wasn't even a transfomer back in 1999 so 12 hours of light per day today is a vast improvement.

Iceg:
you speak with so much bitterness....were you denied admission to study medicine.

i wouldn't say i was, neither would i say i wasn't, i'll leave it to you to judge, so please tell me, was i denied admission if i was required to grease the palms of certain proffesors in the faculty of medicine at the point of admission but couldn't? And yes, i know you'll claim you didn't either, seriously you didn't? And no one you know of either? Keep lying to yourself dude.
Also, did you read through my post? Would you refute any point i raised or just zero it down on my assumed bitterness? Did you notice that i was only criticizing "NIGERIAN TRAINED" doctors?

If you need to know and only if, i was only bitter for the first two years or so into school due to my conclusion that there was apparent injustice but as kids must grow up, so did i, now i look back and realize that it was a blessing in disguise and i dodged a bullet so no hard feelings here dude plus i know what i know because i have many doctor friends and when they go abroad e.g the U.S, 99% of them fail the medical board exams and have to restart medical school again. So prove me wrong if you can.

size38:
PDP is telling lies here. Where is 4000 plus MW? I live in PHC along NTA road Road Mgbouba, everybody living here can attest to the fact that for over 3 months now we have not seen a flash of light how much having a 2 hours light for over 3 months

did metu say the 4000 plus MW was for your area in PH alone? Why didn't you say it was the whole PH? Metu talked about power generated, not power distributed, talk to your distribution company guy, better yet your district senator and governor before you jump other stratas of goverment in your bid to discredit the presidency.

pachuete:
health workers and their inferiority complex issues............ if they needed more they should have studied for more and not trying to enforce their will on people............I just hope gej will slap them with d same addendum he slapped d NMA's with....den there eye go open.........foolish ingrates

"if they needed more money they should have studied more? " seriously? U're one stupid dumbass! U're probably a Nigerian trained doctor or a medical student in one of our universities. Seriously, how much more daft can you be? U puff your chest up and prance around like peacocks seeking to do one over and/or lord over other health staff with your inadequate medical training, idiots! Have you ever pondered over the fact that the medical syllabus with which you were trained is substandard and archaic and doesn't follow current international best practices? Have you ever asked yourself why both doctors and other health workers have mutual respect for one another in western and developed countries? Have YOU really asked yourself why Nigerians who can afford it will rather fly to india for routine medical proceedures? Have u considered the fact that only the poor who have no other option go to Nigerian doctors? No! so far as u can boss your nurse and rubbish their recomendations in front of patients even when they have decades of experience over you, you are a doctor. . . .fool!. I thought patient care and saving lives was your prime and most important calling, i guess it's being the so called boss that made you study medicine. I don't blame you and your likes totally anyway, i blame our Nigerian society for ignorantly putting your proffesion on a too high a pedestal without holding you to account even when your gross incompetence cost lives.
Your induction or socrates oath should be or should have gone like this "i solemnly swear to do no harm to my pocket, i solemnly swear to show the nurses that doctors are not their mates, i solemnly swear that my salary would be the biggest, i solemnly swear say them go hear am for my hand ........" should i go on? Better go abroad and discover just how substandard your training is and re-educate yourself from the scratch both academically, pratically and mentally fools.

nomabeeee:
*breathes in* this is way too long.if u happen to be my lecturer,I won't buy ur handout lol..buh I lyk d way u carefuly xplained it all to me.an example of a realman*jst passed u a compliment..thanks ,I learnt sometin new.

u're welcome, twas my pleasure

MilitaryMinded:
In between, Sahara reporters are claiming boko attacked Vimtim (hometown of CDS) with 3 helicopters.........LOL......they think say helicopters na car wey man fit just by like that........pathetic ****s

did u say sahara reporters? I think they're actually called shaharia reporters