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Na wa oh! All what i have gotten from the Op and many ladies(not all mind you) is that since am more broke(n) than the mosaic 10 commandments of ancient memory, i shouldn't have a girlfriend, no wahala sha! I don't have one and that decision was taken by me to spare myself of the many indignities that are associated with being a broke bf at least, i know the op can't be my gf and this thread can't be about me but i can relate sha. Having said that, what am i supposed to do with the gals who want me to date them? What am i supposed to do with my female friends who want to hook me up with some sister,cousin,friend? They all seem to conclude am a very nice guy to date since i don't womanize but who's to say i fully know myself well enough to know i won't womanize when i have the means and the will? Also, who's to say i'll respect and fully trust any girl i date in future when i have the means to be a proper(financially @ least) boyfriend? There are no conclusive answers to these questions that i know of so if you know any, please tell me.
I asked all these questions because from my perspective as a guy, rich or poor, every guy deserves to have some pride, selfworth in himself and at least feel like a man when in a relationship and i have dipped my finger into the relationship pool a couple of times previously and found out that i couldn't handle the unspoken resentment from girlfriends for not trying enough for them even after i had done my best making me leave with whatever dignity i had left before becoming the butt of jokes of she and her girlfriends and i say this because i hang out with my female friends a lot and we tell one another a lot of cruel unvarnished truths but that's what good friends are for afterall. This topic has many facets and many angles it can be viewed from and whatever we say or conclude, we would all be right and yet wrong at the same time.
Yet i wouldn't date the Op or any girl like her no matter how supportive and understanding she is because frankly, i wouldn't want my personality probed and dissected on a NL fp cause that will be beyond cruel and also, i trust she too wouldn't date me either no matter how many other good qualities i have cos am a broke ar.se brother and that will be cruel on her.
Just towing the midline here. . . . . . . .if there is such a thing as middle in this debate.

DobraDobra:
I have said b4 dat if about nija is between nigerians yes I can accept any word but if a foreigner is talking about nija I wont accept coss u cant know us more dan ourselves. Y not am sure most people contribute to nija in differnt ways from outside and whenbu have family dia u will still jump me silently to see dem. Even for me I know more about nija dan some people dat are dia 365days

well said.
Case closed.

DobraDobra:
My guy dis will not end its a discussion for ever but one fact is dis what faces me turn its back to someone else. I know where I am coming from I know where I am and I know where am going. Any country that accept me as human and care and provide for my needs and my family dat is my country. I am allowed to make a choice just like any one if any one feels fulfilled in nija goodluck if I am satisfy in syria hoodluck to me no one will miss me in d redevelopment of nija. Its a free choice to live in nija and a free one to stay out..but preach what u preach here to d people dat be dey are d ones dat need to change

i wish u goodluck and succes whatever your decision, u deserve to be happy and secure. Everyone deserves to be happy and secure but while away, don't condemn Naija knowing u're doing nothing to help her and if you can spare time and money for Naija while out, do it and contribute your own small quota to reviving Naija. CHIKENA!

DobraDobra:
@BraniacX “Nigeria is not utopia, but it is what we got, building her up is a collective responsibility that involves u and me

In a situation where d poor carry d responsiblity more than d rich or more previledged dia will be no building up and dis is nigeria. In a country where u have to pay to get a job with d government dia can be no build up where u have to pay half a million as bribe to get promotion dia will be no build up in a place where nysc needs 4k from graduates and everybody at d top feel its ok dia will be no build up.

you can't fold your arms and claim the system has defeated u, if you can't work with and within the system, then work out and without the system, yes it would cost more but then, such is the price of nation building afterall, i beleive u agree with me that Nigeria is the only nation on earth where you'll never have to explain your presence in, the only nation in the world where you won't owe anyone an apology for living in.

InvertedHammer: \
Look at the facts.
No need for insinuations.
Kemi is dead.
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i did look at the facts

i didn't insinuate

and yes, kemi and her baby are dead

issue is, there are many more kemi's out there, how do we save them? Not everybody can go to america afterall

DobraDobra: Ok for d purpose of this lets assume dia is a medical procedure that cost 200k yes justbas I said if d patient even after treatment have few months left dey will not spend such money. But if d patient will survive for yrs or d treatment will prevent other people falling sick dia is no cap on d money. Do u know how much was spent on d ebola guy from africa.? Dey used military plane to bring him dat wasvalued monetarily d bed he slept in d hospital cost 50k his whole treatment is over 200k we are talking bout here.all in all even with d cap pls we cant compare nija and some country and its d rulers and not d ruled dat cause d problem. D poor send dia kids to school abroad dey mild d poor dry on all form of tax and we uave nothing to show.

trust me, i know the exceptions to include treatments(experimental) of academic and research value. So for the point of this conversation, let me rephrase the term treatment and say management of say a chronic condition in which regression will take years, probably decades e.g say retinitis pigmentosa with acute PAOG(just an example) and the NHS projects that this individual will be needing care all their life without any significant research value to be derived in the offing, then a cost projection is made for 5, 10, 15 years which far exceeds the cap, what happens next? Point is, Nigeria is not utopia, but it is what we got, building her up is a collective responsibility that involves u and me.

CityNG: Unfortunately I won't be going through the list because it's not what I asked for.

Again, if you have proof that ALL Americans are not covered by healthcare then prove it.

If it's buried inside your links and subject to interpretations then it's no proof.

By the way you are the one thatade the original claim so the onus is on you to prove it.

At least that's how it works in matured discussions.

yes the onus is on me hence i provided those links, if you go through them, you'll find reports comissioned by the AMA(American medical association), CDC (Center for disease control) an epidemiological study by John Hopkins hospital among others and those are authorities acceptable to almost anyone in the medical proffesion except if you disagree of course. They should suffice to substantiate my assertion depending on whether you consider them worthy sources or not.

majekdom2: I really dont blame them for bashing , majority are uncultured and really dont know what team work is really . Imagine you are a team leader and you are constantly being bashed and condemned by your team members even when you are doing something great .... you will definitely get frustrated at some point ... thats just the situation in Nigeria. where the average Nigeria sees no good in what has been done or what the government is trying to do . am not being apolitical ..... but we see the power sector is improving , rail system is piking up , auto mobile industry is on the move. yes , the government cant provide jobs for all the graduates , but it is trying..... and a reason it wont be able to do that is because a degree certificate is overatted in nigeria.

degree certificate overated? How about lets be factual, a degree certificate is not worth the paper on which it is printed. The worth a certificate has is that which you give to it by building on it, many nigerian youths see the certificate as the end which will provide the means, they come out of school waving it over their heads with pride and are schocked when neither the goverment nor anyone else deigns to notice them. Abroad, school isn't meant for everybody so those who don't go to school acquire other skills to get by in life, here we school only without any skills acquisition hoping manna would fall from heaven. Not everybody is meant to have a white collar job, if a blue collar job is how i pay my bills, then so be it. I repeat, the goverment is no nursemaid and we are no infants rather we are both patners, it do for us, we do for it. CHIKENA!

DobraDobra: Go back and read wat i wrote am still going to repeat it dia is no medical procedure dat will take 200k I said if d person have few yrs left to use they will not spend too much money onbd drug rather they will provide d one dat will give d person relif and a meaning way to die. I have 2 cases 1. A nigerian woman dat carried drugs and was caught and sent to prison dia she got sick and was check she got brain cancer and she said dats wat she wanted to use d money for .my guy her head was opened up and treated FREE finished her jail den sent bk to nija 2. Illegal worker nija lady was caught working equally went to jail but she has appointment for operation for fibroid she was taken dia from prison treated free fijish her sentence and was sent to nija. Dis is a country dat will trat u first b4 asking question rather nija will ask u wetin u go do dia y u carry drug y are u illegal die if u wan die

i agree with u on everything except the no disease that'll cost £200k, my source was a BBC chat show over 2 years ago and am having trouble digging it up, when i do, i'll post the link then you can make up your own mind.

maternal: Boko Haram restricts my movements

movement from where to where charleh?

CityNG: Young Son, calling me a liar is idiotic.

If you have proof that I'm wrong post it.

as u wish
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/healthdisparities.html

http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/physician-resources/public-health/eliminating-health-disparities.page

http://www.news-medical.net/health/Disparities-in-Quality-of-Health-Care.aspx

http://www.news-medical.net/health/Health-Inequalities.aspx

http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://www.cdc.gov/minorityhealth/CHDIReport.html&sa=U&ei=gRgvVN77Ns6xac2jgugH&ved=0CCUQFjAE&usg=AFQjCNGOpTT25yC5f3sFBrUYRyqBRbXV2A

http://www.google.com.ng/url?q=http://www.ahrq.gov/qual/nhqrdr10/nhqrdrminority10.htm&sa=U&ei=gRgvVN77Ns6xac2jgugH&ved=0CCAQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHEANRgJh7FRzSFKU0XEtzx3YzXHg.

I return the challenge back to your court. Prove to me that healthcare is accesible to all americans for all manners of medical problems notwithstanding the cost irrespective of socio-economic status and i'll accept the tag idiot.

Sagamite: You are a what?

Say it!!!

..........Cretinous person!

hahahahahahahahaha! Hahahahahahahahahaha!
Hahahahahahahahahaha!
Oya repeat after me
i. . .
Sagamite......
Solemnly swear. . . . .
To accept the truth. . . .
That am am a dumbass pus-dripping cvnt. . . .
That my existence is a blight on the world. . . . . .
That the world is better of with ebola, AIDS just not me. . . . .
That i would have killed myself if i wasn't a cvnt licking puke faced vomit smelling dunghill rat. . . . .
I want to thank all nairalanders for tolerating ma existence
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DobraDobra: My guy I work in d health industry let us leave story out of dis I don't get ur £200:00 I believe u mean £200k. Ok dia is no medical procedure dat will be up to dat even if dey have to remove ur vital organs ok let's talk cancer yes dia is cap on what NHS will give u dey will provide less expensive drugs wen dia is prove dat d person will die in number of months dey just wat to give u dignify last moment. My gus do u listen to news here if government can't do it charities will do of recent did u hear about d small boy dat has brain cancer and d parents took away from d hospital? Yes police went after dem got dem in spain but people made noise of dia arrest and dey where left alone ok nhs said dey can't pay 65k for d boys treatment charity came up with d money later nhs came back and say dey will foot d bill. My guy nija is my country if a forigner talks bad about nija will fight dia but wen its between us nija our selves we know our selves better wat face me turn its back to someone else. For me any country dat accept d whole of u is ur country. Yes dey do discriminate but if u know ur onions u will go smiling to d bank my friend in nija we discriminate among our selves worst dan wat oyinbo will do to us with oyinbo I can challenge it in nija I can not dey will say quotersystem

i agree with u almost totally except on the part where u said there is no proceedure that'll cost £200,000k, there are chronic reccurent proceedures e.g some types of malignant growths that need continuos treatment and though you'll not spend the aforementioned amount in one swoop, with time, the cost of management will get to and possibly exceed that amount and am also happy with the fact that you mentioned the role charity sometimes plays but the problem is Nigerians expect their goverment to provide complete and total healthcare for all diseases for them even when model goverments of countries they'll like to go to can't provide these for their citizens, am just trying to say, the goverment has not done as much as they can do for us but the goverments of those countries they'll like to go to are not nursemaid to their citizens, they are more like patners who say i would do most but you to will do small too and that is what the Nigerian goverment is trying to do with NHIS for us but many Nigerians are so fond of Naija-bashing and always see only the bad tins and nothing good at all.

DobraDobra: Have u had experince of an emergency in government hospital b4? Pls let us say wat we know here my friend was very sick very very was moved from private to luth wen d doctor could not cope any more at luth dey asked for money 70k after paying dey said no bed my friend received drips on a chair he got abed at 3am when someone diedi went visiting O mY God in a normal society d ward I visited will be closed down locked up I have to put my hands in my pocket could not sit down d bed it self na death

i have and u're quite right so i won't disagree with you but that was your own personal experience but having said that, the scenario you described didn't state that your friend was at imminent risk of dying(very sick yes, dying no) and also it implies that the hospital beds were totally filled up, truth is goverment hospital are understaffed, not adequately equipped and truth be told the patient population is also very high as you yourself experienced but the good news is that thanks to the not so satisfactory service you received or should i say despite it, your friend survived. Imagine a scenario where after the doctor at the private hospital gave up on your friend, there was no unsatisfactory goverment hospital to refer him/her to? What do you think will happen then?

CityNG: It's obvious that you have an agenda against America or at least American healthcare system.

I'm not going to try to convince you.

To others that may read this thread. Yes you can get full and complete healthcare in American for every single American for any ailment.

What is my background that enables me to speak confidently about this?

I am posting this from my office at a popular West Coast health medical provider.

ol' boy! easy on the half truths oh! "full and complete healthcare in america for every single american for every ailment"? Guy! Easy dey lie oh!

And for your information, i have nothing against America and the American healthcare system afterall, it is my plan to work in the american healthcare industry. Because i state facts and the facts don't agree with the view you're trying to project doesn't mean i have an agenda.

InvertedHammer: \
No hospital Emergency room will deny you treatment with or without insurance.

They will stabilize you, transfer you to a county hospital if it is not emergency.

If emergency, the hospital will treat and bill you later.

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neither will she be denied emergency treatment in any goverment hospital in Nigeria even during a strike, there are always doctors available to attend to strictly emergency cases.
But as you said, she was taken to a private hospital. I don't know the law but i would like to beleive there is a law that mandates doctors to attend to patients in emergency situations even in private hospitals although enforcement is another thing. Its a pity sha

maternal: In canada everything is covered.

and if all nigerians went to canada, how long will it take for the canadian goverment to place travel restrictions on Nigerians? Whearas no restrictions can ever be placed on you here in Nigeria

maternal: She would have been released. The real bottom line is she would have probably been alive today.

thanks, i stand corrected then

CityNG: Yes it is available to every American.

There may be a waiting period for none life threatening stuff.

You should never compare healthcare system in Nigerian and the US on the same sentence. Ever.

what about diseases that affect your quality of life maybe say spinal injuries e.t.c, before obamacare the treatment available wasn't equal for all americans and even after obamacare, it still isn't equal. Get your facts right. Healthcare in america is basically catered for by health insurance which interpretes into the more you earn, the more insurance you pay the greater your health cover meaning poor americans who earned little and were on goverment aid, had very little cover and many of them resorted to miracle cures and untested drugs and treatment proceedures on the internet (don't be suprised, that is well documented) what obamacare does simply is provide the basic insurance cover for many poor americans, now this is better than what was previously obtained but it still doesn't cover everything for them.
I am not comparing american healthcare to Nigerian healthcare but truth be told american healthcare is only american healthcare in name unless you are rich enough to be able to afford every thing it has to offer but if you are poor, it is still better than the Nigerian health system, just not by that much anymore.

DobraDobra: My guy come to uk medical is free as in FREE including food

i know but the really really expensive proceedures say £200,00 and above are not covered for by the NHS because the goverment spending that amount on one individual automatically and drastically reduces the amount available to spend on other individuals so brits who can afford it, go to france and germany for proceedures the NHS can't cover, others to india. My point is, free healthcare has a monetary cap and you'll be deluding yourself if you think otherwise so i insist, no goverment has all the answers and solutions and no goverment can shoulder all the responsibility

cronsberg: Yes i have lived a long enough live of misery, suffering, failed dreams, unfulfiled promises, and disapointments in Nigeria. If i was a citezen of a sane country, my dreams would certainly have been realized, my ambitions will be given support by the government, my skills would have given me a job without having any connections, my life would have been a happy one as every social amenity will be available, i would not have developed a mild depression as the environment will be conducive, i would not have developed heat rashes and occational malaria because of excesive heat combined with lack of electricity . Mr man, go n die joor

abroad must be utopia then, wow! No wonder they don't get depressed and commit sucides, no wonder they don't get depressed and go on sucidal shooting sprees, wow! What a perfect society.
Also my point is, Nigeria is so bad that you should have died from the malaria,heat rashes and depression but here u are, still alive perharps i have been misinformed, malaria does actually kill in other african countries so your survival must be a miracle afterall it has nothing to do with the fact that you're actually in Nigeria right? Perharps it didn't occur to you that those anti-malaria drugs and treated nets readily available to you here are in short supply elsewhere and this availability has nothing to do with your goverment.
Perhaps you should go to america and probably(a very very low probability) contact nile fever and this is the interesting fact, it is spread by mosquitoes, kills faster than malaria and has an almost equal mortality rate to malaria or you should go to australia and contact a strange and rare disease from a strange and rare vector you probably never knew existed. Bottom line, diseases and risks and depression exists everywhere.
Also u or somebody posted pictures purpotedly depicting the terrible existence we endure in Nigeria, an asian, western or even south african investor would look at those pictures and see investment opportuinities in the transport, food proccesing sectors e.t.c but u look at it and see only a dysfunctional goverment and that says a lot about your mentality and psyche. You want the goverment to point out the opportuinity to you, invest it's money as capital in your name and manage the enterprise to yield profit for you.
U go old!
News flash! The goverment is not your nursemaid and you are not an infant.

InvertedHammer: And this is the system....life is meaningless.

Police report before a rape victim gets a PEP?
Police report before an accident victim gets treatment?
70% deposit before an emergency surgical procedure?

Well, I hope you carry those millions you made in Nigeria in your car all the time.

With millions in your account, if you cannot access it at the right time, you will die a horrible death.

So, it is not about money. Nigeria is a f@cked up system. KEMI died a "painful" death.



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and correct me if am wrong, before obamacare, and even after obamacare, every life saving medical proceedure is available to every american right? especially those without insurance right?

While not making excuses for the imperfect system that led to the death of kemi and her baby though i know she would have been attended to without money at a goverment hospital but not released until payment is complete, bottom line is, no system and goverment is perfect

jennykadry: Shut up, where did you read my mum only? I said my parents. Keep contradicting yourself. Yes talk about the young boys who carry guns daily in Nigeria to survive. That is what that useless country that has long been forsaken and should be sold out to other african countries, has turned young boys into....criminals and armed robbers.

My parents are adults with options and when BH strikes they must leave for their adopted countries unlike you a mere child with no option but to stay and await the day BH get to your door mouth.

and let me guess. . . . . .there are no young boys and girls carrying guns around the streets of new york, new jersey, chicago, atlanta, los angeles and even london to survive right?
Pls say something else, this fib of yours wouldn't withstand closer scrutiny.

majekdom2: mtcheew... they keep saying no fraud, nothing, they are transparent bla bla. yes, what these countries do is they make the average or lower nigerian feel he is getting the best overseas and that his government cant do better...give them some jobs they cannot give to their children & family & then they conive with top government & private employees 2 commit fraud....the next is, it is d government is corrupt bla bla. they should research on 1 gabonese president that even had a say in d french government, simply because d IOC & him were busy looting & sending this money 2 france. if u know how much majority of these companies remit abroad... whn contracts are awarded they go do major designs & construction in their countries claiming there is no enabling environment.....what d government is forcing them 2 do is creating d enabling environment now....& are they not doing it? They should read on d litigation between ladol & samsung heavy industries & how many jobs that will create .majority of d IOCs dont want d PIB passed because they know it may never favor them .... someone said brazil, indonesia , singapore .... they should check d kind of laws those companies have on foreign companies operating in their country & compare it 2 d freedom the ones in Nigeria have... one dude said, d expats take d juicy job, he didnt think a nigerian ought 2 have been trained long ago 2 take juicy job that may arise in future if they actually want the best 4 u....... they know the logic of development ... "you dont develop an institution, u develop people & then people develop d insititution" ....that people development is what they shy away from . they know a Nigerian may have access 2 information which they dont want him 2 ....I doubt if a nigerian who works his way 2 a director level in any of these companies would be allowed 2 some information about d company....& yet we are here talking down d country instead trying 2 contribute in d simplest way......they should do a researche on how many foreign companies came in2 nigeria between 1980 & 2006..... I really dont blame some folks .. D only thing they were taught is how to go 2 an embassy , apply for visa & start living on state benefits.

even with all you have said above, it still won't sink into some skulls much less brains that corrupt though we are, we are not the sole architets of this corruption, neither are our corrupt politicians the sole beneficiaries because the corruption is a cycle that even or should i say especially the western goverments benefit from by proxy only they will never admit it publicly, they will rather blow hot air through the media & psuedo-occidento-govermental NGO's about corruption indices, bla bla bla which though true, are misleading since they don't tell the full story.
& yet, some Nigerian dudes go over there, accept anything offered & when asked about Nigeria, trashtalk Nigeria to the west & their media almost kinda insinuating that Nigeria was a type of hellfire, but they will rather lease it out & live in the real hell. Seriously they potray Nigeria to be that bad. I have had arguments with many westerners & asians who have never been to Nigeria before who when i say am Nigerian, suddenly beleive i am hungry,malnourished,diseased with a swollen belly & swathing flies constantly & wonder how i got internet connection & are totally convinced that that is the true scenario on ground in Nigeria & would accept no argument that contradicts their opinions of us & many Nigerians at home and especially abroad do everything short of being hungry,malnourished,diseased with bloated bellies & swathing flies to re-enforce this erroneous beleif about Nigeria. Many of these Nigerians are not aware &\or if aware, dont really care that whatever benefits they are getting there are directly or inderectly accrued from their own nation amongst others by these western goverments by proxy & yet these westerners project a benefactor psyche from themselves onto these Nigerians who then feel very gratefull for every scrap they can gather, like SERIOUSLY! are you kidding me? Am not condeming those who go abroad to better themselves and i must stress "THEMSELVES" because when i go out, i will be doing it for myself and by extension, my family, but i won't go there & thrashtalk my country knowing fully well that i have neither done nor sacrificed anything for her to earn the right to complain in the first place. Afterall, the education i have gotten in Nigeria, while not of Havard, MIT, Yale, Princeton, Oxford & Cambridge standards, it is to many intents & purposes free as i know i wouldn't have been able to afford it in those western countries & the prerogative to build on this foundation is solely mine & not the goverment's.
Everyone who has ever lived in Nigeria should objectively & sincerely reflect on themselves & tell us if throughout their existence,the goverment has done absolutely nothing for them & anyone they know.

[quote author=cronsberg post=/post/26756334]Look at the utter failure called nigeria. This is how 90% of our markets, streets e.t.c are like. If you think i will stay here and die of high blood pressure then you are wrong. And to the original Op, yes i think its worth selling every goddam property you got to escape this crap. I no even fit shout joor. I have headaches literarily every week from thinking about the hopelessness of Nigeria. I mean look at the filthyness, unconduciveness, unhygenic nature of everything. mtsheeewww[/quote]and yet with this filthyness, unconduciveness and unhygeinic nature of everything, u have lived long enough to foward this stupid post of urs into dis thread mtcheeeeeew! back at you.

[quote author=Sagamite][/quote]sagamite : yum yum! hehehehe, yum yum yum! this boss is the bestest boss ever. . . .yum yum yum, all these yummy shit for me? Wow ! this..yum! is....yum yum! the......yum! bestest.........yum yum! boss...yum! everrrrrr.....yum yum yum yum yum!

BraniacX : Oi! Sagapork!

BraniacX : Oi! U there! Sagapork! Sagapork! SARR-GAAAAARR-PORRK! !

Sagamite : uhn!... yum, boss? yesboss!...yum yum yum!

BraniacX : don't come close boy, stay there, ok. . ,when will you be through with this job, i have other jobs (soak-away's) that need your attention you know , Or do i have to hire other pigs to come assist you?

Sagamite : NO! NO! NO! boss NO OH!, don't hire another pig oh! It'll be unecessary, i can recycle and vaccum at least 50 soak-away's per day, this is only the 45th na..! Am going to improve my average to at least 70 from today henceforth! Pls boss don't hire another pig please, please, pleeeaaaaaase!

BraniacX : okay, get on it then, hurry up! No time to waste CHOP! CHOP!
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#speaking #to #self. . . . . . stinking shyt eating piece of shyt!

Sagamite : Thank you BOSS! Thank you.
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#mummuring. . . . . . Shio! U wan come spoil ma runs abi? I no want rival for this my workshop oh!
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yum yum! abeg make i rush finish this feast jare! Yum yum!

Sagamite: You are a cretinous person!

am starting a new buisness line thanks to you. It's the recycling of human waste and you're my recycling machine.

bon apetite SAGAPORK!

Rubbish! dats what your post is, u toasted a woman Q.E.D whether na banker or na tomato seller oh, na same anatomical configurations dem get and same physiological reaction you go experience when you hit jackpot.

Sagamite: You are a ........cretinous person!

oh! U mean u'll like to drink urine too ?
Damn! Ur taste in cuisine crosses d border called gross. YUCK! But y should i let myself be grossed out by? Why should i puke? U're an animal afterall, not just an animal, a shyt-eating pig called SAGAPORK INFACT! But since you've asked, i wont let it be said i denied you your favourite drink, ok, open ur mouth, good boy, good boy, oya nairalanders, bring your di.cks out and quench SAGAPORKS thirst