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Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 4:59pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
mazaje1: God back to what the definition of who God is, then come back..... Let me point you in the right direction, before you make a fool of yourself again.... God breathed into his nostrils and he became a living soul..... Living God breathed into a lifeless body..... |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 4:52pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
"When atheism is stripped of pompous proclamations and arrogant allegations, its naked soul is seen for what it really is: weak, illogical, unscientific, and worthless. Atheists blindly believe that, for example, life came from non-life. Rather than accept what scientific experimentation has repeatedly concluded over the past 200 years (that in nature life comes only from life and that of its own kind), atheists remain committed to a disproven theory. Man has never witnessed mindlessness bring forth intelligence. He’s never seen something come from nothing." - Eric Lyons |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 4:47pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
OF COURSE, DAILYMAIL website is an apologist website http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248916/Piltdown-Man-The-truth-fraud-revealed-100-years-fooled-world.html Experts tricked for 40 years! In 1912, Arthur Woodward announced to the world that he had found the missing link between ape and man. Piltdown Man, as he called it, consisted of a jaw bone and a piece of skull which he estimated to be over 500,000 years old! However, in 1953, when the new fluoride dating process was applied to the bones, scientists were shocked to learn that the jaw bone was less than 50 years old. Only then did they notice that the bones and teeth had been treated with salts and filed to make them appear old and primitive. In other words, Piltdown Man was a complete fraud. Take note Bible student! The world's foremost scientific experts had been fooled for over 40 years! (Read 1 Corinthians 3:18-20.) For almost a half century, evolutionists pushed Piltdown Man in the faces of Bible believers as scientific proof we evolved from apes! Some proof! In spite of over 100 years of intensive searching, the only place you will find a missing link today is in the colourful imagination of an evolutionist. Museums certainly don't have any! "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." (Gen 1:1) Have you ever considered that when God created the universe in six short 24 hour days, He may have been taking His time? The Bible is a reliable book of genuine divine prophecy. You can trust it! The evidence presented here is just a tiny portion of the proofs available to establish the divine origin of the Bible. Yet, they are more than sufficient to prove the inspiration of the Bible. There will always be men who scoff at the Bible. You, however, can be confident when you read your Bible that God is the author, for it is written: "We constantly thank God that when you received from us the word of God's message, you accepted it not as the word of men, but for what it really is, the word of God" (1 Thessalonians 2:13). *** Keep searching for a black needle in a dark haystack that don't exist *** Paul aptly said it all: Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; |
Religion / Re: The Bible Is Proven By Genuine Science To Be True! by BraveGuy: 4:41pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
Are You Being Fooled By Evidence? http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-people-are-fooled-by-evidence/ |
Religion / Re: The Bible Is Proven By Genuine Science To Be True! by BraveGuy: 4:38pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
plaetton: That is popular science. And it is still being taught in some schools. It is the knowledge of the 21st Century that is changing that. |
Religion / Re: The Bible Is Proven By Genuine Science To Be True! by BraveGuy: 3:35pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
mazaje1: Job 36:26 Truly, God is great, greater than all our knowledge; the number of his years may not be searched out. Job 36:27 For he takes up the drops from the sea; he sends them through his mist as rain, Job 36:28 Flowing down from the sky, and dropping on the peoples. Otherwise, please describe what the Water Cycle is, AVOIDING any similarity from the above description that was written some 3000 years ago.
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Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 3:26pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
How MANY "Ancients" knew of "Paths of the sea" Matthew Maury (1806-1873) is considered the father of oceanography. His daughter was reading a portion of the Bible to him. While listening, he noticed the expression "paths of the sea" in Psalms 8:8. Upon his recovery, Maury took God at his word and went look ing for these paths. We are indebted to his discovery of the warm and cold continental currents. His book on oceanography is still considered a basic text on the subject and is still used in universities. Maury used the Bible as a guide to scientific discovery. If only more would use the Bible as a guide in their personal lives! "At one time, when Commodore Maury was very sick, he asked one of his daughters to get the Bible and read to him. She chose Psalm 8, the eighth verse of which speaks of "whatsoever walketh through the paths of the sea," he repeated "the paths of the sea, the paths of the sea, if God says the paths of the sea, they are there, and if I ever get out of this bed I will find them." Source: http://www.bible.ca/tracks/matthew-fontaine-maury-pathfinder-of-sea-ps8.htm Reference: http://www.bible.ca/tracks/paths-of-the-sea-ps8-8-a-brief-sketch-of-the-work-matthew-fontaine-maury-richard-launcelot-maury-1915ad.jpg What you keep failing to see or admit is the FACT that the Bible led scientists (and in this case - oceanographers) in the way they have walked so far. Atheist friends, keep digging! |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 3:24pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
How MANY "Ancients" knew of "Paths of the sea" Matthew Maury (1806-1873) is considered the father of oceanography. His daughter was reading a portion of the Bible to him. While listening, he noticed the expression "paths of the sea" in Psalms 8:8. Upon his recovery, Maury took God at his word and went look ing for these paths. We are indebted to his discovery of the warm and cold continental currents. His book on oceanography is still considered a basic text on the subject and is still used in universities. Maury used the Bible as a guide to scientific discovery. If only more would use the Bible as a guide in their personal lives! "At one time, when Commodore Maury was very sick, he asked one of his daughters to get the Bible and read to him. She chose Psalm 8, the eighth verse of which speaks of "whatsoever walketh through the paths of the sea," he repeated "the paths of the sea, the paths of the sea, if God says the paths of the sea, they are there, and if I ever get out of this bed I will find them." Source: http://www.bible.ca/tracks/matthew-fontaine-maury-pathfinder-of-sea-ps8.htm Reference: http://www.bible.ca/tracks/paths-of-the-sea-ps8-8-a-brief-sketch-of-the-work-matthew-fontaine-maury-richard-launcelot-maury-1915ad.jpg |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 3:19pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
mazaje1: You are the one talking thrash, because you can't backup you so-called "ancients" with when they claimed what and at where by whom? |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 3:10pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
Weah96: I make two points. One, the bible doesn't state the correct geometric shape of the earth. So an information that had been around before the scientific world picked it up should be ignored? I mean the original source should be deemed irrelevant because an atheist doesn't believe it? |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 3:07pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
Weah96: I just explained that at the time of the writing, there was no Hebrew word for "Sphere" or "globe", I checked my Strong's Concordance for the root word of the "Circle". Another thing you fail to understand is that just because someone has a label of Christian or Reverend does not mean that he is a true believer of God and the Bible. Have you never heard of a "Bishop" who says he does not believe in the existence of God, or the Virgin Birth? It was H.G. Wells who wrote, "Satan delights in statistics and quoting scriptures, too. See: http://www.whale.to/c/bishops.html |
Religion / Re: The Bible Is Proven By Genuine Science To Be True! by BraveGuy: 2:33pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
The Hydrologic Water Cycle Revealed in the Bible: Job 36:27-28 (some 2500 years ago) The water cycle was not fully understood until about 30 B.C. by a Roman engineer named Marcus Vitruvius. Yet every aspect of the water cycle was fully revealed to mankind in 1600 B.C.! The Bible's description is in perfect harmony with modern science. Eccl 1:6-7; 11:3; Job 26:8; Amos 9:6. Vitruvius was 1600 years too late! |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 2:25pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
Weah96: You are still arguing that the Bible revealed that the earth is round? Job 26:10, Prov 8:27, Isaiah 40:22, Amos 9:6. Today, we laugh at the people of the fifteenth century who feared sailing because they thought they would fall over the edge of the flat earth. Yet the Bible revealed the truth in 1000 B.C. 2500 years before man discovered it for himself! What have you that ANYONE had this same information some 2500years ago? NONE! In various verses, the Bible says the earth is round and hangs in space. It took a long time for science to catch up and reach the same conclusions. Copernicus made the discovery in 1475. But the Bible always knew. Here are two related Bible verses that were written more than 2500 years ago, and more than 1000 years before Copernicus: "He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth..." (Isaiah 40:22,NIV). (What you still fail to put into account is that fact that the Hebrew language at that time did not have a word for "sphere," only for "circle." ) "He spreads out the northern [skies] over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing" (Job 26:7, NIV). The book of Job was written some 2500years ago! |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 1:50pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
I have another question for my atheists friends, it is taken from the first few chapters of C. S. Lewis’s Miracles: Do you believe that we have a non-illusory power to reason? If you believe that our thoughts are ever rational, not mere biochemical events in an inevitable cause-and-effect chain, you’re not a materialist; you believe in the supernatural. |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 1:38pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
Dear atheists, In the Beginning, there was fear and ignorance and Man said, "Let there be God," So, Man created God out of nothing to calm his fears and avoid the threats of Hell. |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 1:29pm On Jul 23, 2014 |
Weah96: I must say that I am EXTREMELY disappointed that you have still failed to grasp or attain to the level of Biblical Intelligence. FOUR CORNERS of the earth refers to the polarities - north-south-east-west. The bible is ALWAYS making references with respect to these polarities, right from Genesis. A good example of this can be seen here: Genesis 28:14 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed. Revelation 21:13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. Did you ask yourself when the Book of Isaiah was written at all? It was written between 740-680 B.C., toward the end of the reign of King Uzziah and throughout the reigns of King Jotham, Ahaz and Hezekiah. Which one is older? 740-680 B.C or 240 B.C? A circle doesn't have polarities? Job 26:7 "He stretches out the north over empty space And hangs the earth on nothing." ~ Job understood the idea that the earth is suspended in space. Job 26:10 "He described a circle upon the face of the waters, until the day and night come to an end." ~ Job also understood the movement of the sun and moon in circular patterns. Isaiah 40:21 & 22 "Do you not know? Have you not heard? Has it not been declared to you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth? It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in." ~ Isaiah understood that God sits above the "circle of the earth" or as could be translated "globe" Proverbs 8:27 "When He established the heavens, I was there, When He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep," ~ The word circle here is translated from a phrase that is applied to the curvature of the horizon when on the open ocean. This is the same physical evidence used by the greeks some 1,000 years later to make their own observations about a round earth. While it is assumed that the Greeks were the first to suggest this idea, the fact is the book of Job written over 1,500 years before Eratosthenes of Alexandria was born contains the exact same information. It was in fact a small handful of scholars not associated with the Christian church who began that inaccuracy nearly 300 years after the life of Christ. Taken in context and when understood the time period and technology available to Job, it's amazing that he had a grasp and understanding of outer space, gravity and the universe LONG before the Greeks began to speak out in regards to such things. Your point regarding circle and sphere fail to take into consideration that the concepts used to describe the idea of a circle are the exact same methods used by the Greeks to propose the idea of a round earth. The idea of circle is based upon the horizon and the natural curvature found there. I guess it's ok for the Greeks to use such logic, but if found in the Bible that automatically makes it incorrect? Also, I failed to find the linguistic evidence you provided. Would you be so kind as to give some sources for your material? Your point regarding the four corners is easily understood when taken in context. North, south, east and west have been described as the four reaches of the earth even in modern times. It's a poetic figure of speech. None of the verses in the Bible speaking of a flatness of the earth imply that the idea of a flat earth as being correct. I would challenge you to show such verses if they exist. http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c015.html http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c034.html Where did you go to school? If I were you I would ask for my money back! |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 10:57am On Jul 23, 2014 |
I would like to ask you atheists - DO YOU BELIEVE IN ALIENS & UFOs? |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 8:29am On Jul 23, 2014 |
mazaje1: Of course, it is YOUR choice. Standing by a particular choice doesn't make it right. That is why God gave you a brain. The only thing is that be careful with your FINAL choice. Diego Costa chose Spain over Brasil and he had a "wonderful" world cup, isn't it? |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 8:26am On Jul 23, 2014 |
I must admit that you have a SERIOUSLY WARPED understanding. You have entwined the truth with falsehood. I almost don't know where to begin. Most of the things you pointed out are the confirmation of the fallen nature of Man. I challenge your thinking, why don't you read this Bible that you're criticizing out of context? Papacypaul: Have you ever think this? Man does more than create God in his own image, he has a god of birds, of animals, of serpent, etc., Man's creativity has been corrupted. Papacypaul: The anger of God is seen when His righteousness and holiness is challenged, but the same cannot be spoken of Man, Man's anger is seen when his pride and arrogance is challenged, they are two different things. Papacypaul: You mean you want to compare the jealousy of man with that of God? God is jealous over His Creation and He has a right to do so. But when man is jealous is usually because he's selfish or hates the fact that someone else has something he doesn't. Incomparable! Papacypaul: Again hatred in man is about selfish intentions, that of God is about the rejection of God. Two different things. In fact, God defines human hatred as equal to murder. Papacypaul: Man was created in the image of God and His likeness. Man has God-like qualities, just that he has fallen and those qualities have been corrupted that is the difference. Papacypaul: God NEVER changes. All those gods of civilization were man-made. Papacypaul: Two different things. God owns the whole of Creation (Psalm 24:1-2), singled out the Jews to use them as a showpiece for how man should behave, but since the time of the Messiah, He has brought forth the Church, which cuts across racial, tribal, colour, language barriers. Papacypaul: If Jesus Christ did not come as a woman, you will claim that the demands of God on humanity is practically impossible, but He did and you have no excuse not to live a perfectly moral life. |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 7:59am On Jul 23, 2014 |
mazaje1: Perhaps, you are just dancing around with semantics. Those Books were not classified as Genesis, Exodus, etc., in his lifetime, neither the Book of Joshua, not even the Gospels. Those people just wrote for others to read the intentions of God and the various aspects. They were not writing with the expectation of churning out Bestsellers. Please, add a little common sense to these things. They didn't the chapters and verses either. |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 7:52am On Jul 23, 2014 |
Weah96: ^^^ Do you consider those points you mentioned here to be evidence of the claim that only someone with Yahweh's attributes is the source of the bible? Of course, yes. |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 12:23am On Jul 23, 2014 |
@KAY17 I will cite two SCIENTIFIC proofs: 1. The discovery that the planet earth is a circle. Hundreds of years before Copernicus and Galileo discovered that the planet earth is a sphere, the prophet Isaiah declared: “It is He who sits above the circle of the earth” (Isaiah40:22), while the Quran, which came almost 1300 years after Isaiah, says that the planet earth is flat. These are the words of the Quran, “Do they not consider… how the earth has been flattened out?” (Surat Al-Ghashiyah 88:20 – T.B. Irving – The First American Version). 2. The discovery that the planet earth is hanging on nothing. Neil Armstrong, the astronaut who went to the moon, was asked, “What is the most magnificent thing you have seen in your way to the moon?” He replied, “The most magnificent thing I have seen in my space journey is that the planet earth is hanging on nothing.” What this astronaut declared had been uttered by Job thousands of years before. Job said: He stretches out the north over the empty place, and hangs the earth upon nothing (Job 26:7) What shall I say about NUCLEAR physics from the BIBLE.... The discovery of the crushing of the atom and atomic energy. When Dalton presented his atomic theory, saying that the atom has neutrons, electrons and protons, and claiming that if we can crush the atom, we can destroy the universe, scientists stood in wonder. Hundreds of years before Dalton’s atomic theory the apostle Peter, who was a fisherman, wrote by the Holy Spirit the following words concerning the crushing of the atoms: But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements (atoms) will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up (2 Peter 3:10 – NKJ) How many ancient books or texts are anywhere close to the Bible? This is about my third or fourth time of asking and you have still not been able to provide one. And we have still not even touched one of my favorite subjects, DNA. Do you know that all the previous books on the Biology of Genes have almost become completely obsolete? New Biology is replacing it. And you know which Book New Biology confirms? The Bible! In fact, the first Geneticist was Jacob in the Bible. Do you know this? |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 12:07am On Jul 23, 2014 |
Kay17: @braveguy I am also trying my best to reason along with you, but finding it impossible to jump into the black hole that seem to be your preference, KAY17. It is a hole of nothingness. Daniel 7:1 In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters. I have cited references from within the Bible itself and outside of it as proof that in some cases, Moses and Daniel, as an example that they WROTE the books themselves. But, because you don't want to accept the basis (or source) of their inspiration, you keep deflecting the idea. How else do you want it written? Moses wrote.... Daniel wrote..... Etc., It is you who need to accept the facts. |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 11:59pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
Heathen: If Newton knew what we know today back then, just like majority of modern scientists, he'd be atheist. Really? You sound as if you're so sure. So, there were no atheists at his time? You're probably the first atheist. You know how your science has progressed since Isaac Newton first enacted the laws of motion |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 11:47pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
mazaje1: Show me where Moses denied that he wrote it. Joshua said he did The prophets said he did The Jews said he did Jesus said he did History said he did Archeology said he did You and your so-called Jewish rabbis deny that he did. |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 11:42pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
mazaje1: You are the one who should be quiet, my friend, you're the deluded one. Please disprove the Isaac Newton one |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 11:23pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
mazaje1: My friend, you are the deluded one. I have my STRONG'S that help me with Hebrew or GREEK. And for your information, the Old Testament wasn't written in just the Hebrew language, but also Aramaic. |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 11:20pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
Sometimes, you atheists are so funnily incredible! Most of you rely heavily on the evidence of Science (with gaps in it). What most of failed to acknowledge was that someone such as Isaac Newton was one of the founding fathers of modern science. And almost all you do today was as a result of the influence of his achievements, and these are firmly entrenched in his faith. |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 11:12pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
Sir Isaac Newton's unpublished documents are being presented hundreds of years after he had died, does that mean he was not the author? |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 11:09pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
Weah96: In order to believe the bible, one must accept the possibility that Moses watched a movie and GOD was the director. Forget the fact that the event does not occur in nature. Perhaps so! I thought you claimed that you don't have enough bandwidth to watch videos? Anyway, I will appreciate it if you can refute this video as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jargDLhjYC8 |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 11:06pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
mazaje1: So, because a man (or some men) call themselves Jewish Rabbis, I must take their word as authority? What about a proper and well documented video such as below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6ryGVTRop8 |
Religion / Re: Atheists. Come In Let's Discuss. by BraveGuy: 10:53pm On Jul 22, 2014 |
Kay17: You still have NOT answered my question. Which BOOK in history, not just about religion, can match the Holy Bible? As it is now, you are denying all the historical and archeological evidences that support the authenticity of the Bible. As I mentioned previously, the Bible has scientific proofs, moral proofs, Messianic proofs, Quranic proofs and prophetic proofs that it was divinely inspired. Also, tell me, was the Roman Empire born at the time of Daniel, when it was predicted? What about the ensuing 10 Kingdoms from the interpretation of Nebuchanzzar's dream? http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/Warning%209%20Europe%20Unites.html |
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