₦airaland Forum

MN07:
The igbos are not united. Otherwise they would left nigeria together in harmony to start afresh somewhere far away from Nigeria but as unit.

Let this people perish.

When they fought war for 3 and half years they were disunited abi?

UltraSolid:
You've proven nothing other than confirm that Igbos are irredeemable blanket haters of others, their religion, ethnicity, political Party affiliation etc.

If not you'd realise Nigerian political parties have no ideological integrity or identity. They are just mere platforms individuals use to seek power.

Nothing confirms this, and also damn you Igbos of hypocrisy and ideological fickleness, more than how how follow the man everywhere, and not the Party, in the case of Obi who has gone, from APGA, to PDP and then Labour to God knows whereever next before 2027.

If you genuinely think Parties have defining identities then you would not retain support for Obi as he moves from Party to Party.

All you Igbos are obsessed with doing is portraying yourselves as saints but your choices and action don't quite match what you are saying. I know for a fact if Obi becomes APC candidate tomorrow you will all follow him there to be praising and defending the Party passionately while cursing out PDP and Labour.

What defines you lot is in ordinate and clannish love of your own and casually bigoted rejection of others. Nothing else.

So are you saying you are supporting APC because you for Tinubu's selfish benefit?

Since you claim that is what the political party is all about and you are fully aware that is what Tinubu you support is doing?

Godfullsam:
Did Obasanjo get block votes in the SE?
Stop these lies pls. He got votes, but he didn't get block votes. Yaradua, Atiku and got more votes than Obj in the SE because their running mates are from SE and this further butress the fact that the igbos care about who is the president as against you opinion.

You said peter obi was the best among the 4 contestants, but this the same peter obi all of you were insulting when he was the governor of Anambra state.

This is hypocrisy my friend.

Firstly I know you guys are quite good at how to lie and twist history, I never said OBJ got more votes than the others, all I said was once the Igbos believe in you we give you block votes, the percentage might vary.

Then secondly that we have voted other regional candidates with over 90% support and please Yaradua's vice was not from the south east but from south south except you want to claim now that south south and south east are brothers which you people always call a lie....

Thirdly the screenshot below shows the votes from the south west for OBJ against Ojukwu and Buhari when Olu Falae was not on ballot, you people gave OBJ over 90% from each of your states except Lagos because Tinubu at the time was fighting OBJ but you won't call it tribalism, in fact you people don't even talk about it but Igbos did the same for Obi and you all are shouting tribalism...

Fourthly, the stats below says otherwise about the performance for Obi compared to Tinubu and Fashola...


Read the article below, I'm putting the full article for others to see and not just the link to further buttress my point, the way you guys lie and twist history is one major reason I want this country to divide into different countries...

Tinubu supporters who have been lying to the country since 2015, have also been lying that the South East voted along tribal lines in the 2023 presidential election rather than who they believed was the best presidential candidate.


Let me show you the voting patterns of the South East since 1999, just to set the records straight in case you haven't realized that Tinubu supporters are lying to you to cover up for their poor choices since 2015 fueled mostly by tribal and/or religious bigotry.

Breakdown of SE votes % since 1999:

1999 (Obasanjo vs Olu Falae): 86% (Obasanjo), 14% (Falae).

2003 (Obasanjo vs. Buhari vs Ojukwu): 65% (Obasanjo), 28% (Ojukwu), 7% (Buhari). Note that Buhari had an Igbo running mate.

2007 (Yar'Adua vs. Buhari): 97% (Yar'Adua), 3% (Buhari). Note that Buhari had an Igbo running mate again.

2011 (Goodluck vs Buhari): 98% (Goodluck), 2% (Buhari). Buhari's % didn't change much despite not having an Igbo running mate.

2015 (Goodluck vs Buhari): 93% (Goodluck), 7% (Buhari). Buhari's % increased despite not having an Igbo running mate

2019 (Buhari vs Atiku): 89% (Atiku), 11% (Buhari). Buhari's % increased again despite Atiku having an Igbo running mate

2023 (Peter Obi vs. Tinubu vs. Atiku): 91% (PO), 5% (Tinubu), 4% (Atiku). PO had slightly less % in the SE compared to GEJ and Yar'Adua.


Note the following:

1. Ojukwu had only 28% of the votes in the SE in 2003. Why only 28% if this was about tribe? Ojukwu didn't even win any state in the SE at the presidential election.

2. Buhari had Igbo running mates in 2003 and 2007. Why only 7% and 3% respectively if there was a tribal correlation?

3. Buhari who was losing very badly in the SE with Igbo running mates, increased his % against Atiku who had an Igbo running mate.

Meanwhile from 2007 till 2023, these Igbos contested at the presidential election:

2007: Orji Uzo Kalu (Only 3% of votes in the SE)

2011: Pat Utomi (less than 1% of votes in the SE)

2019: Kingsley Moghalu (less than 1% of votes in the SE)

2023: Peter Obi (91% of votes in the SE)

Show me again where tribe played any significant role in the SE more than any other region in Nigeria

https://www.nairaland.com/8217099/voting-patterns-south-east-1999/1

When I tell those asking for regional government that it was regionalism that brought Nigeria to where it is today, they start arguing...

Let Nigeria divide so that every region can decide to form his own country according to their pattern

Godfullsam:
Stop being hypocritical Mr man, you claimed an average igbo man doesn't care about who is the president but obi got 97% votes in the SE.

I hate hypocrisy

We voted for him because we saw him as the best.

When we did the same for OBJ, Yaradua, GEJ and Atiku, it wasn't desperation for Igbo presidency abi?

That has always been the south east voting pattern since 1999, once we believe in you, it is block votes....

So don't come and twist anything here, we saw Peter Obi as the best among the top 4 and we gave him block votes just like the others...

UltraSolid:
If Igbos can introspect, you'd have gotten far. Yet you are all arrogant and entitled supremacist so can therefore never appreciate what you do wrong let alone a need to change your ways and approach.

North and Yorubas don't play all-or-nothing politics off hatred and toxicity publicly as Igbos do. 100% fact you can deny if you wish. You people thrashed, rejected and derided the APC as "Boko Haram" Party when courted to be a strong part of the formation merger at inception stage of the Party.

If pragmatic in thinking and mature in outlook, you should have considered joining APC as influential partners at her inception if only to spread and improve your options. Instead not only did you reject the APC but the entire SE began fighting the Party in a clannish, personalised and ridiculously hateful way. Bad as that was, we can accept it is your prerogative

What we then don't expect, years later, is for Igbos to demand Tinubu to cede his candidacy to an Igbo in same Party you Had all publicly rejected unitedly as an ethnic group. When that did not happen you decided you must hate "backstabbers" and "betrayal" Yorubas who will not grant Igbos their turn while graveyard silent about how Fulani's, in Atiku and Tambuwal Etal, casually brushed Obi and co aside despite your 25 years of loyal service there.

Your have no problem been ridiculed where you are genuinely entitled but your hatred and anger is for Yorubas you assume denied you representation where you had no right to even seek a voice if a principled ethnic group.

It is called reaping where you did not sow and we must ask who does that to then expect to be viewed a victim of injustice and "marginalisation" when it is crystal clear lack off emotional intelligence,dearth of critical thinking, needlessly hateful approach and intolerance is what has always been resonposnible for Igbos political downfall?

And haven't we been proven right that APC is a party worst than PDP?

Haven't we been proven right that all the candidates APC brought into power were bad Nigeria?

Look we Igbos are not desperate for power like you guys, we will rather lose doing the right thing than win doing the wrong thing all because of political power, even if we are given the opportunity to vote again today we will still vote in the same pattern and we are not regretting any of our action because we did the right thing and we have been proven right over and over from Buhari to Tinubu...

Godfullsam:
The only way I will support an igbos presidency is if he will divide the country the very day he assumes office.

You think I care about an Igbo presidency?

I just want a country that works, even if the president is from Afghanistan, who cares, I'm all for the division of Nigeria because we don't share the same ideology, Igbo presidency or not, you guys think an average Igbo man really cares who is president ....

Chekwume16:
Obasanjo is playing to the gallery. No one is denying igbo presidency. Last election was a clear example. A lot of us voted for obi not because he is an igbo like me but because we believed in him. Southerners were even the ones that betrayed him. Especially People like Wike. Secondly igbos need to know how to play politics. They are too hostile towards other regions. They don't believe in building bridges. Their arrogance will always deprive them of that exalted position.

Fulanis that have been killing people all over Nigeria even before Buhari became president did not stop you people from voting him and never even accused the Fulanis of being hostile to other tribes then still reelected him even after they increased the killings under him....

What exactly does hostility mean to you ?

Once it is Igbos you guys must raise blames and find faults, what exactly do you people want from the Igbos?

GeneralPula:
I don’t agree with regionalism brought us to where we are today. Free education started under regionalism. Each region was able to make use of whatever they have to their advantage..

There was nothing like Nepotism! There was nothing like blaming one FG for everything. Regions with growth tendency grew what they could grow..

The only thing is some regions were not productive. They had nothing going on. If we go back to regionalism today, parasitic regions would get exposed..

Simple, instead of letting a lazy and parasitic region ruin your currency or even migrate to your region to still cause problem, why not just have your own country in full and leave the parasitic region to spoil their side without any effect on you and have all the goodies in your land to yourself...

Is it not better?

helinues:
Stop doing whataboutism about issue concerning your region. Aren't you people even interested in making head way politically?

You can't be bragging of something you don't have. After all, it's not Kanuri, Nupe or Ibiobio people that have been governing South East for decades hence no development to show for it. And please save us the story about the civil war, Rwanda civil war was more recent and they have moved on.

Build bridges, form alliance, elect credible people at home to show the seriousness whether for the presidency or Biafra

So the north have been electing credible people in their region abi or the south west has been electing credible people in their region too?

You talk of bridges, which region have the Igbos not voted into power before back to back?

Has the north or the south west done that for any Igbo man?

Which tribe in Nigeria is most traveled and settled and contribute to the community where they stay including learning the language of the people than the Igbos in Nigeria ?

What type of bridge are you talking about?

What exactly do you people want from the Igbos?

This is one major reason I want the country to break up because there is nothing an Igbo man does you people don't find fault in...

GeneralPula:
This is why we should go back to regionalism make every region do hin thing however e want o..

It was regionalism that brought the country to where it is today, if we were never one as a country I don't think Nigeria will be where it is today, personally I don't even want to share currency with you people...

Our ideologies are not the same, as long as there is something holding the regions together as a country then I still believe problems might still come up because it has happened before...

Let us avoid all the problems in totality

JASONjnr:
So why is he now inciting that Igbos should give a chance to rule Nigeria when that statement on its own is a tribal division method.

If he's dividing the Nigeria he wants to stand with with his statement, there will be no more Nigeria for him to support.

The same Igbos hate the one Nigeria chants and the same man is giving Igbos his support.

Same Igbos will turn against him tomorrow and insult him when he speaks against their flaws.

Do you like something that is not working?

If Nigeria is working like other countries making progress, do you think the Igbos will want to leave?

The Igbos have left leadership for you guys for over 50 years and yet see what you guys are doing, if the Igbos decide to go you people will call for war immediately, MNK is still in prison till date while while Wadume a terrorist is free from prison.

OK, the Igbos say they should handle the leadership since you people have failed for over 5 decades, you people still say no.

What exactly do you people want from the Igbos?

GeneralPula:
Make we just go back to regionalism..

That’s my own..

There's no need, just divide the country, our ideologies are not the same, we are not aiming for the same thing....

DaddyCoool:
See back-hand insult way of emphasizing his tribe!😆

If speaking the truth means back-hand insult way of emphasizing ones tribe to you, that is your problem not mine

Fearurcreeator:
If una god Jonathan or any of your governors didn't walk or ride on a bicycle isn't it an act of hypocrisy to tell Our president Tinubu to do the same . Well if you get there you can do the same

You see how you people behave, I wasn't a Jonathan supporter, please find another excuse for Tinubu, this one is not working ....

AareGaa:
This happens daily in Biafra.

you wish ....

Obakoolex:
Why do you always reason with your anus?
You no dey tire

If speaking the truth means reasoning with anus to you, that is your problem not mine

jamafa:
How is this related to Tinubu??

Any small thing u go add Tinubu join

Because Tinubu is mentoring Wike and also in partnership with him

Jsucre:
your far away from northern things

in politics? no....

Kilometres:

Keep quiet if you dont know anything, rather than opening your gutter mouth and sounding stupid.

Atiku and Fitiri are currently having same issues in Adamawa....

Why are we we not discussing it like we are doing Wike's own now? I think you are referring to yourself...

Alliswell248:
No one would stop you if you decide to have yours in the ocean.

Noisemaker

So are you saying Tinubu is no longer their president ?

MIKOLOWISKA:
see small pikin talk
Do you know when you're child has friend of opposite sex
Do you know if they sneak behind your back
It's your type that will wonder how your children get into trouble thinking you're in charge.
Don't wives cheat on husbands
Why he no sabi
Don't workers misbehave in their phases name
It's easy to know ignorant ppl that have never managed humans

And you don't know that when a child is caught doing something bad they call the parent, even a married woman they will call the husband, why do they do that?

Because the man is not responsible for them abi?

You sound like someone without manners though....

MIKOLOWISKA:
4 replies yet can't mention the lies. Clown

and you can't answer when you were born...

Christistruth02:
Lagos has given far more than it gets remember FG owes Lagos 24 years of Sales tax it wrongly collected , Port and Seme Border Duties of 150 years

Then Lagos will have to refund all the investments that the FG spent in Lagos, let me just give you a hint, do you know the 3rd mainland bridge has no total estimate, The FG was just funding it till it got completed, at some point it was like the project will never get completed because of the volume of money they had spent in different batches and different years, that is just 1 of the investments of the FG...

If they are to worth that bridge alone, you think Lagos state will be able to pay as at now?