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helinues:
You could have ignored it. I saw it yesterday and didn't see any sense in it.

Should he have called the new Olubadan his sister or his enemy? Those who are doing the arguments are just petty set of people

Galactics:
I tire for some people o. What exactly is the fuss about?

The reason people have to speak is all over the thread here, kindly come back and read the comments that are still flooding the thread and you will know why it is is important for people to speak out, it is the same reason some people claim Igbos are disrespectful because some people have pushed the narrative with pettiness like you wrote here and some people buy into the pettiness with ease because of hate.

If Reno was not called out yesterday to show his hypocrisy, imagine the narrative that would have started trending...

BreconHills:
Ok
Iam furious. Seething with anger. Raging like a volcano! 😂😂😂

Kai

If that's how it is to you, your problem, not mine

That's what they(traditional rulers) have allowed Tinubu to become, they should deal with it

BreconHills:
Because I could and I did. Why should I be angry to do that? Angry over an individuals right to express an opinion?

This is Nigeria not North Korea.

Even your write up here still shows you are angry...

BreconHills:
You are grasping at straws mate. Nobody is angry 😂😂😂

Then why did you mention me?

LegendHero:
They do that almost everytime. Even recently, FG was promise to release more funds and there was a time doctors are planning a strike for some decisions reached with FG and they already sorted it.

However, you have not answered my question. Nigeria government cannot compete yet with Western power in salaries and so far you have that gap if FG like make e dey dash doctors 2million, it won’t stop brain drain.

I am done with this argument. E don dey drag too much and time is importanr

You are sounding as if Tinubu has done well for doctors and the health sector in Nigeria, if he has done so we as you are trying to.potray it, why is he not using the very same health sector he has done so well for?

It is like a man who buys food for his house and tells them to eat claiming he has done his best but avoid eating from the same food.

Does that make Any sense to you?

So Tinubu has done well for the health sector he doesn't have the confidence to use but wants his citizens to use...

This evil you guys are doing...

BreconHills:
Nobody will be angry they will just be amazed by your equivalence. Why should they be angry, you have a political preference and you are not holding any office. Your one vote and Nigerian citizenship entitles you to exercise freedom of expression.

Nobody is angry dear.

If you were not angry, you wouldn't have replied me talking about election and vote .

Dbakre1:
U don try well well. So it’s Tinubu that’s expected to go and provide security for travelers in Akwa Ibom and cross river states when there’re governors there?
It’s true common sense is not common, ur sentimental senses na promaxmax

But it was Jonathan you people including Tinubu were expecting to bring back Chibok girls...

See the hypocrisy...

buckeyemedia:
Ok he couldn’t do it with The Apga that gave him Governor for 8 years, na with the labor party he could use to chase his illusion of President?

If you want to travel to Canada from Lagos, must you use the exact plane that took you from Abuja airport to Lagos airport?

If I call Tinubu's name now, some people will start getting angry, then I ask, why were they angry with Jonathan when Tinubu has performed worse than Jonathan

May the abducted ones be released safe, sound and on time back to their families.

buckeyemedia:
Was that the reason Gringory Obi ran away from The APGA?

To get the opportunity to serve the people of Nigeria

Dagah2:
Which kain careless talk be this naa?
Andy Uba being saintly to assume police too corrupt to fight corruption?
Andy Uba is corrupt. Together with Chris his brother, they nearly wrecked Anambra.

And then Peter Obi saved Anambra state from them, but the very same people who call Peter Obi a bad person and a failure chose to pick the same Andy Uba and supported him to try to become governor of the same Anambra.

Those same people are the same people supporting Tinubu and disliking Peter Obi, but they tell you they love Nigeria better than those who support Peter Obi. No one needs to be told why Nigeria is the way it is today.

Lanretoye:
stilll the hypocrisy I’m talking about,it is easy for you to go and dig out my responses to post some people have made condemning Lagos government,people who dare not speak about what is wrong in their own states.thesame people celebrate terrorism in the north but do every thing to mute the killings and kidnappings in their own land.

But I live in Lagos, how is it now hypocrisy? You don't live in the south east, what is your business with the south east?

Have you also talked about the rituals, killings and kidnapping going on in the south west?

Lanretoye:
where in Lagos do you live and prove to us that where you live is flooded instead of crying more than the bereaved.you can’t call call out the government cos it is your right to do so but you leave out hypocrisy when you do.

I'm not saying that, solutions cannot be provided in the southeast erosion issue or the Lagos floods, but I'm only calling out your hypocrisy in your excuse for Lagos, would you have said the same if it was Anambra that was experiencing this floods?

And yes I live in Lagos and I pay both direct and indirect to Lagos but my area is not flooded, but that does not mean I shouldn't speak for those who are suffering from the floods.

So I'm wondering the hypocrisy you are pointing to here because it is your hypocrisy that you should be calling out.

The number of insults alone you insulted the south east on this erosion matter is so much I can't screenshot all and you don't even live in the south east.

Where is Abike Dabiri ?

22 more characters not needed till Abike Dabiri says something...

Lanretoye:
who is condemning flood in the south east abi it is you people like pot will be calling kettle black…even advanced countries like America,Canada experience flood.
You can’t call out people and expect they won’t dignify you with commensurate response

We live in Lagos so we have every right to call out the government we pay our taxes to, but most of your people firing at the south east governors don't even live there, so what offense did we commit by calling out the very government we pay our taxes to?

It means you guys are just being biased....

Perfectbeing:
My first screenshot matters.

What Cable news provided wasn't the contract but their opinion on the contract.

The NNPC Chief spokesman has explained the contract (in the vanguard link I sent)- he explained how the payment is, and that's what I'm going with.

Good bye.

It doesn't still change the fact that the value Nigeria will pay back in crude oil is about 11 billion dollars at 65$ per barrel

Lanretoye:
The issue of flooding in Lagos has no solution,people should just be proactive especially on the island

But you and your people will be quick to insult the south east governors for erosion affecting the south east and believe they should have a solution but this one has no solution according to you?

creativejagaban:
You must be referring to the obidients gang like racoon, mrvitalis, givedemwotowo, brendaniel et al.

We don't need them to say good things about the country. They don't matter in the equation of things.

Negative news is what give them joy.

Positive news is what give us joy.

Tinubu till 2031.

If that is what telling you the truth means to you, that's your problem not mine...

LegendHero:
Yes, Tinubu cannot just change behavioral pattern of Nigerians in 2 years, it’s impossible.

How much do you think a doctor earn abroad? In USA for example it will be over $200k - $500k range annually. How much do you think Tinubu can pay doctors to pin them down in Nigeria and stop them from traveling? How much is our national budget?

If you’re a doctor and your colleague earn $300k annually abroad and Tinubu is promising you 5million per month in Nigeria, will you collect it? No right?

The only other way to stop them is by law that says if you finish as a medical student, you are barred from traveling out. That will be denying them their human right of free movement and will make Tinubu a dictator.

Now think yourself as president, tell me how you will stop me (a doctor for example) from taking up my $300k job in Texas if I have the offer.

Leave all these rants, the question you should be asking is, has he improved their welfare since he entered, he doesn't need to pay them like America to show he is doing something.

The question is, what has he done to improve their welfare?


If in 2 years nothing has been done, then when exactly is he planning to do it?

Perfectbeing:
This is the clarification from NNPC that you were arguing with.

Read it again, line by line. Anywhere you don't understand, screenshot it and post it in an AI so the AI will explain simple English to you.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/01/understanding-project-gazelle-3-3-bn-crude-loan-from-afrexim-is-short-mid-term-solution-to-fx-shortage/amp/

I've read the contract part and I have explained this before, it still doesn't remove the fact that Nigeria may still lose almost 9 billion dollars for that loan, the calculation I did covers payment at a static prize.

If you notice throughout the contract they never stated an amount that will be paid back, instead only in barrels and those barrels have to be met with a benchmark 0f 65$ per barrel, the calculation I did used the benchmark throughout the period of the loan which still brought the figure of about 11 billion dollars, so the loss does not have to do with price change.

go back and read what I read what wrote there with screenshots

https://www.nairaland.com/8184573/buhari-administration-used-crude-mortgage/1#131511142

Nigeria is still paying about 11 billion dollars in value whether price changes or not because the payment is pegged at 65$ per barrel with a total amount of crude oil to be sold.

LegendHero:
Check what I post and tell me if Nigeria is not there. Nigeria is part of the brain drain since 2012 and it’s been happening since 2000. That you’re feigning ignorance in this is a call for concern.

My argument is that there are doctors in the hospital which you also confirm. My second argument is that he did not book an appointment before going there which you also confirm.

Then my last argument was that even abroad which is the UK he mentioned he will go to, he will need appointment to get to the doctor unless in case of chronic emergency.

Ok, let's even assume you are right for a second, so are you saying because doctors have been leaving Nigeria before Tinubu became president due to poor welfare from the FG then it makes it normal for Tinubu not to change the situation?

So what exactly did he come to do differently from the previous leaders who came before him?

So because all them failed to stop it, then he should also join them to fail to stop it?

Samtob90:
Your comment doesn't make sense.

How doesn't it make sense?

please explain...

LegendHero:
No they are not telling lies. It’s been this was since year 2000. It is the Sam exact thing I am telling you.

However, this does not in anyway negate the talk about appointments in the matter of discourse. That does not imply that a whole hospital won’t have a doctor.

Below is a 2012 report about the doctors brain drain in Africa to USA. Infact it’s been happening since the 2000s.

https://www.cgdev.org/article/africa-exodus-doctors-why-rwandas-story-different-allafrica

See how you are trying to deflect, we are not talking about Africa but Nigeria in specific, also no one said the whole hospital does not have a doctor, but there are few doctors due to neglect of their welfare by Tinubu you support.

You couldn't even produce any report from Nigeria to back up your claim, you had to use Africa, how wicked can you people be...

supporting evil to your country because of tribe...

Gentlevip:
And you sound like rightists and Christian?

All must abound to your mentality

So your own mentality is to kill anyone who does not accept your ideology?

LegendHero:
No, you are the only doing assumption on the reason why he was not able to see doctors. Ever since then Don born me na doctors don dey japa from this country. The reason why it look apparent now is simply because we use social media now and the process is now more streamlined.

If the said hospital has no doctor because all of them don japa, why is the hospital door still open?

So are you saying the Nigerian Medical Association are telling lies?

LegendHero:
So how does this now negate my comment?

The problem in Nigeria is that we are not used to doing the right thing. That’s because bribery and favoritism is the main thing in Nigeria so there are lot of anyhowness.

You are still refusing to admit that the hospital he has been using for years failed him due to lack of available doctors, which is majorly due to doctors fleeing Nigeria for better pay abroad, that's the point.

Softmirror:
The same ideals is what is responsible for the lynching of people alledged to be witches by Christians in Nigeria.

But they are usually arrested and prosecuted for doing so, have the killers of Deborah been prosecuted?

Softmirror:
Very straightforward, no corner, corner. No bri-bri to the answer.

So the killers of Deborah killed her because of what?

Boko Haram are killing people because of what?

Softmirror:
Philosophy of ideals equates as much as what the world suffers under the US Hegemony.

Go straight to the point

20 more characters not needed

Softmirror:
Exactly my point. Which is a great irony, philosophy of ideals.

So are you saying Muslim are killing people all over the world because of America provoked them?