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 Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 7:54pm On Jul 15, 2020 |
Well -it's simple to find out anything-we need the evidence to prove it exist,, and anybody that claims to be somebody-need the evidence to prove he/she isn't talking through their backsides..To retrieve any information these day's comes from books we call a manual.. GRIMMJOE: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 6:33pm On Jul 15, 2020 |
That's true-this is why we line everything up with the Word of God-everything outside that-doesn't exist. it's either a lie or a scam ready for the ripping.... GRIMMJOE: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 6:20pm On Jul 15, 2020 |
No but atheist believe in god's-they rely on leadership, an atheist couldn't make his way through life without somebody telling them what to do-the world follows after it's own kind-it idolises itself-Atheist worship people in music, movie's...Etc... GRIMMJOE: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 7:14am On Jul 15, 2020 |
Obviously GRIMMJOE: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:25pm On Jul 14, 2020 |
Then they aren't Christians-Christians have a meaning to be Christ like, sadly-people are taught they were baptised to be some religion., and most haven't the slightest idea the bible ever exited.. In some cases, people just make up their own idea's which way is up. without any knowledge-up to them could be pointing down.. This is where the confusion comes from-most people look for leaders, it's easier that way to follow someone else, when the shit hits the fan-then it's easier to point the finger on some other poor bastard-who try's to help.. GRIMMJOE: 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:03pm On Jul 14, 2020 |
{Ephesians 1:3-5} "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly realms. For He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless in His presence. In love He predestined us for adoption as His sons through Jesus Christ, according to the good pleasure of His will,… But you wouldn't know that.. {1 Peter 2:9} But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. Nor do you know this verse either... {John 15:16} You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you. And this verse wouldn't be any use to you..Only because you were picked by the Watchtower, men without any Spiritual background... {Jeremiah 1:5} “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.” Janosky: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 10:42am On Jul 14, 2020 |
Which is quite sad_ because those who claim to be Christians, aren't really Christians-but judges of evil thoughts about others...So which one are you?? GRIMMJOE: 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 10:36am On Jul 14, 2020 |
Janosky:If you are going to lie about it, at least come up with some evidence first.. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Various individuals, courts and the media around the world have raised concerns about the manner in which cases of child sexual abuse are handled when they occur in congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses. [1] An independent 2009 study in Norway was critical of how Jehovah's Witnesses dealt with cases of child sexual abuse but stated there is no indication that the rate of sexual abuse among Jehovah's Witnesses is higher than found in general society. The organization officially "abhors" child sexual abuse, and states "the incidence of this crime among Jehovah's Witnesses is rare." The Society's child abuse policies have been published in Jehovah's Witnesses' publications, although more specific guidelines are only made available to elders, or on request. Press releases issued by the Watch Tower Society's Office of Public Information state that if a person accused of molestation repeatedly denies the charges of his victim, and there is no other witness to the incident, " the elders cannot take action within the congregation at that time", but would report to authorities if required by local laws. In 2015, it was disclosed that the Australia Branch of Jehovah's Witnesses had records of 1,006 alleged perpetrators of child sexual abuse, relating to more than 1,800 victims since 1950, none of which were reported to police by the group. Some media and courts have reported that Jehovah's Witnesses employ organizational policies, which the group says are "Bible-based", that make the reporting of sexual abuse difficult for members. Some victims of sexual abuse have said they were ordered by local elders to maintain silence to avoid embarrassment to both the accused and the organization, Members are told they have every right to report crimes to secular authorities separately to reporting the "sin" to congregation elders. Janosky: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 9:45am On Jul 14, 2020*. Modified: 10:20am On Jul 14, 2020 |
rabzy:Yes -stay with Spirit filled born again believers-forget the cult's-stick with Jesus, speak the Lord's message and come to join us and be set free! Don't be fooled by Watchtower literature, speak the language of Christ into your heart, don't be threaten by JW fools, stand up and believe Jesus Christ is Lord.. We are chosen not by men-but God chooses us for His Son Jesus Christ-break free from watchtower bondage of torment and come as a soldier of God and Join Christ and His army who fight a war through prayer-against the principalities and the powers of darkness that will only seek it's enemy to draw us further away from the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit.... As we read Maximus69 had already dump you like a rag doll-cast you out for what? because you don't speak his language? "This is already a sign-his leading you on the wrong path, Max like a brother to you, have cast you out.. It's not Maximus fault' the Watchtower had already led many into Hell itself. Stand up with boldness, let's stand together in Christ... Maximus69: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:40am On Jul 14, 2020 |
Question: "Is eternal security a ‘license’ to sin? Answer: "The most frequent objection to the doctrine of eternal security is that it supposedly allows people to live any way that they want and still be saved. While this may be “technically” true, it is not true in reality. A person who has truly been redeemed by Jesus Christ will not live a life characterized by continuous, willful sin. We must draw a distinction between how a Christian should live and what a person must do in order to receive salvation. In this case one must be saved>>>meaning one can't continual to be a JW... The Bible is clear that salvation is by grace alone, through faith alone, in Jesus Christ alone {John 3:16; Ephesians 2:8-9; John 14:6}. JW's do seem to leave the Name Jesus out of their picture.. The moment a person truly believes in Jesus Christ, he or she is saved and secure in that salvation. It is unbiblical to say that salvation is received by faith, but then has to be maintained by works. The apostle Paul addresses this issue in {Galatians 3:3} when he asks, “Are you so foolish? After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort?” If we are saved by faith, our salvation is also maintained and secured by faith. We cannot earn our own salvation. Therefore, neither can we earn the maintenance of our salvation. It is God who maintains our salvation {Jude 24} It is God’s hand that holds us firmly in His grasp {John 10:28-29}. It is God’s love that nothing can separate us from {Romans 8:38-39} Any denial of eternal security is, in its essence, a belief that we must maintain our own salvation by our own good works and efforts. This is completely antithetical to salvation by grace. We are saved because of Christ’s merits, not our own {Romans 4:3-8}. To claim that we must obey God’s Word or live a godly life to maintain our salvation is saying that Jesus’ death was not sufficient to pay the penalty for our sins. Jesus’ death was absolutely sufficient to pay for all of our sins—past, present, and future, pre-salvation and post-salvation {Romans 5:8; 1 Corinthians 15:3; 2 Corinthians 5:21}. Does this mean that a Christian can live any way he wants to and still be saved? This is essentially a hypothetical question, because the Bible makes it clear that a true Christian will not live “any way he wants to.” Christians are new creations {2 Corinthians 5:17}. "Christians demonstrate the fruit of the Spirit" {Galatians 5:22-23}, "not the acts of the flesh" {Galatians 5:19-21}. JW's are by works--- {1 John 3:6-9} clearly states that a true Christian will not live in continual sin. In response to the accusation that grace promotes sin, the apostle Paul declared, “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?” {Romans 6:1-2}. Eternal security is not a license to sin. Rather, it is the security of knowing that God’s love is guaranteed for those who trust in Christ. Knowing and understanding God’s tremendous gift of salvation accomplishes the opposite of giving a license to sin. How could anyone, knowing the price Jesus Christ paid for us, go on to live a life of sin {Romans 6:15-23}? How could anyone who understands God’s unconditional and guaranteed love for those who believe, take that love and throw it back in God’s face? Such a person is demonstrating not that eternal security has given him a license to sin, but rather that he or she has not truly experienced salvation through Jesus Christ. “No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him...{1 John 3:6}. MuttleyLaff: 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:56am On Jul 13, 2020 |
Spread the message... MuttleyLaff: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:50am On Jul 13, 2020 |
Jesus sent His Spirit to teach us all things...So obviously if the Spirit belongs to Jesus-and everything Jesus say's, then the Spirit delivers.. {John 14:26}} "But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. Allow me to pray-maybe just one day-the JW's will see fit to at least understand-the scriptures... MuttleyLaff: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 4:16am On Jul 11, 2020 |
This poster is another lie-the Watchtower don't believe in such-none of you will end up in Heaven...why because you all refuse to believe it ever exist.. Maximus69: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 4:13am On Jul 11, 2020 |
I wouldn't be to concerned about GRIMMJOE learning anything concerning God-atheist are pagans, everything other then God,, what matters... DappaD: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 4:07am On Jul 11, 2020 |
Jesus then sent His Spirit to teach us all things.. Kobojunkie: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:29pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
No worries, my mistake...But that's the problem bro-none of us know directly who we are-we just need to go by the fruit, if they aren't talking the talk, then obviously they are from another tribe.. johnw47: |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:30am On Jul 10, 2020 |
Now I am Christian-before you weren't sure if I was a JW... As long as we speak the same doctrine language-that's all what matters.. And Janosky has a big mouth-nasty-who cares-I don't believe everybody answer's back to him, the rubbish he writes-just show's his mentally-it isn't worth the argument, casting him out because he doesn't have the slightest idea who Jesus is-we are all here to learn of each other, Janosky re-bells against himself-doesn't that tell us something-he's against Jehovah, he doesn't have a clue which way is up-he, with the rest of these so called Watchtower believers-they are here like the rest of us, learning about the Kingdom of God. Some have already turned from their sinful way's and returned back to God-so we are here to listen and correct the arguments.... johnw47: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:03am On Jul 10, 2020 |
If you haven't worked it out already, then I suppose you will never know-we don't all speak the same language-but what I do know, Jesus Christ is Lord-His all God in the making.... Would a JW believe such testimony... johnw47: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:51am On Jul 10, 2020 |
So you know how to give out the shit-but you don't know how to receive it, when it comes back to you?? You sound like a little girl.... Janosky: 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 7:32pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
So what is your argument? rottennaija: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 7:22pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
Ii's obvious, you aren't a great believer, an atheist'' who haven't the slightest idea who's right? It's common sense-without studying the bible yourself, everything concerning-who's right-than at least instead of speaking out through your backside-at least have some conclusion why different organisations are having this argument in the first place-it's common sense someone is twisting the scriptures-and the only way we can be sure of this, we turn to the bible for the answers. . It's a known fact paganism began with the atheist.. And when do the pagan atheist ever agree with anything concerning the Christians... GRIMMJOE: 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 6:53pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
You have always claimed to be a JW and still you say the Word of God is false.. Janosky: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 6:51pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
Praise God I don't worship you... GRIMMJOE: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:41am On Jul 08, 2020 |
Does this mean the Watchtower won't accept me? Thank God for that... Janosky: 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:36am On Jul 08, 2020 |
You haven't read these verses? {Matthew 5:43-48} “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? ... {1 John 4:8} Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love. But I believe this one is for you personally.. {Proverbs 6:16-19} There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers... Maximus69: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:24am On Jul 08, 2020 |
Yeh bro-every time this verse comes up-they hide themselves away from it,.. {Matthew 5:43-48} “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? ... GRIMMJOE: 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 10:23pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
While in the mean time-your love for us as neighbours doesn't come close to the love you claim to have for others, that you may think they are listening to you.... Maximus69: 2 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 10:14pm On Jul 07, 2020 |
Since there had been so many child molesting reports against the Watchtower-these three young Girl's are just dressing up for the picking.. johnw47: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:47pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
I know-it's all to much for you isn't it ""Dumb dumb.. Janosky: 3 Likes |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 10:37pm On Jul 03, 2020 |
This saves all arguments-read it from your bible, the Watchtower could even tell you which LORD is actually coming back.. .NWT {Revelation 22:20} Come Lord Jesus.. So if it's Jesus-then Jehovah is Jesus in the making's So who created all thing's... Maximus69: 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 10:31pm On Jul 03, 2020*. Modified: 11:46pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
Dickhead-I said: the Father the Son and the Spirit are One-so if Jehovah is coming back-then Jehovah is Jesus coming back, read it, it's even written in your bible . NWT {Revelation 22:20} Come Lord Jesus.. Janosky: 1 Like |
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