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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 12:45am On Aug 29, 2020*

Haven't you read-Jesus is the Almighty-and the Son of God at the same time..
Only if you truly knew who God is- and believed how simple who He really is..
For to which of the angels did God ever say,
“You are my Son;
today I have become your Father”
Or again,
“I will be his Father,
and he will be my Son”
And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,
“Let all God’s angels worship him.”
In speaking of the angels he says,
“He makes his angels spirits,
and his servants flames of fire.”
But about the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
To which of the angels did God ever say,
“Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet” Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?
I know how hard this all may sound to you-but I assure you-Jesus is not the archangel Michael-Angles a ministering Spirits, just as the Word of God tells as they are, so who's going to take your word for it, without showing any evidence to prove you are right and the Word of God is wrong..

NWT Version--
For example, to which one of the angels did God ever say:
Which One of the Angels? Is not what the bible had written..
“You are my son; today I have become your father”?+
And again: “I will become his father, and he will become my son”?+
But when he again brings his Firstborn+ into the inhabited earth, he says: “And let all of God’s angels do obeisance to him.”
{a gesture expressing deferential respect, such as a bow or curtsy}
Your learning is backwards-read {Jude 9} this gives us a good example how Angels treat one another..
Also, he says about the angels: “He makes his angels spirits, and his ministers*+ a flame of fire.”+
Meaning He makes all His Angels Spirit's-not just some..
But about the Son, he says: “God is your throne+ forever and ever, and the scepter of your Kingdom is the scepter of uprightness.*
This is what the bible really say's “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
It makes life a little difficult-when we see the differences between two bibles-and it makes life difficult when someone want's to take matters into their own hands, to led people like you 'in the wrong direction...
I AM SURE CHARLES RUSSELL IS PAYING FOR HIS CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY IN HELL..

Janosky:
Fallacies of Ad hominem and appeal to man made traditions,na Brocab straw man tactics

Brocab look well well again & see "the drugs" wey only your eyes see

Brocab LIED that Jesus is Almighty God now he is TWISTING the same mouth to call Jesus the son of God.
Him Almighty God is a son in heaven, Rev3:5
John 20:17 grin grin

Jesus is a Messenger & God's son, Luke 9:35 and John 7:16,John15:15 and Angels are God's sons.

Mark8:38. Matt16:27, 2Thess1:7-9, God's son leads other sons of God, can your brain understand?

God did NOT command any angel to worship Jesus, Mattt4:10 according to Jesus Christ.

The Catholic Church,(the foremost Exponent of Trinity) their Bible says God instructs angels to "Pay homage to Jesus" @ Hebrew 1:6.

The Catholic New Jerusalem Bible says Brocab claim on Hebrews1:6 is false
Screenshot confirmation

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:27am On Aug 27, 2020

Are you on drugs?

Janosky:

Brocab LIED that Jesus is Almighty God now he is TWISTING the same mouth to call Jesus the son of God.
Him Almighty God is a son in heaven, Rev3:5
John 20:17

Jesus is a Messenger & God's son, Luke 9:35 and John 7:16,John15:15 and Angels are God's sons.

Mark8:38. Matt16:27, 2Thess1:7-9, God's son leads other sons of God, can your brain understand?

God did NOT command any angel to worship Jesus, Mattt4:10 according to Jesus Christ.

The Catholic Church,(the foremost Exponent of Trinity) their Bible says God instructs angels to "Pay homage to Jesus" @ Hebrew 1:6.

Brocab claim on Hebrews1:6 is false

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:24am On Aug 27, 2020

You are mistaken-
{Hebrews 13:8-9} Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings, for it is good for the heart to be strengthened by grace and not by foods of no value to those devoted to them.…
God gave all authority to Jesus-God never took back His Authority! All authority was given to Jesus.. Yesterday-today and forevermore..

rabzy:
Jesus needing to receive his authority from God and then later submitting that authority back after using it to accomplish all God wanted shows clearly we are talking of two divine beings, a father and a very loyal and obedient regent...not the same person.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:21am On Aug 27, 2020

What will you do to me, molest me..

Zzor:
stop trying to sound like your brother in crime fake wealthy pastor johnw47,behave yourself or I will deal with you,i have warned you.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 12:43am On Aug 26, 2020

No-you need to learn English, I didn't say I wished him dead-I believed he died..Spirituality he is dead-just like the rest of you: just haven't got a clue:

Zzor:
This is bad, there's no enemy here,we are just learning,not good to wish someone dead

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 12:33am On Aug 26, 2020

Jesus never gave His authority to angels, and God never said to Michael sit at my right side..
{Hebrews 1}
For to which of the angels did God ever say,

“You are my Son;
today I have become your Father”

Or again,

“I will be his Father,
and he will be my Son”

And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,

“Let all God’s angels worship him.”

In speaking of the angels he says,

“He makes his angels spirits,
and his servants flames of fire.”
But about the Son he says,

“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy.”
He also says,

“In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
They will perish, but you remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
You will roll them up like a robe;
like a garment they will be changed.
But you remain the same,
and your years will never end.”

To which of the angels did God ever say,

“Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet”?
Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?
Even the Angels worship Christ-but sadly the Watchtower don't-but rather worship an angel..

rabzy:
Jesus needing to receive his authority from God and then later submitting that authority back after using it to accomplish all God wanted shows clearly we are talking of two divine beings, a father and a very loyal and obedient regent...not the same person.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 9:19pm On Aug 25, 2020

One of God's sons-but not the Son who has all God's authority giving to Him..
What this means you bow down before an angel-you worship an angel-not of the Son of God Himself..

Maximus69:
Please all i need is YES or NO

Is Archangel Michael one of God's sons?

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 9:08pm On Aug 25, 2020

I am a son-but I don't claim the authority the Father gave to His Son Jesus Christ-you have given all the authority to a messenger, Michael is an angel he is used as God's messenger..
This is what I mean-the Watchtower printed the KJ's bible on your press-and still you all deny the scriptures exist.
{Hebrews 1:5-6}
For to which of the angels did God ever say: “You are My Son; today I have become Your Father”? Or again: “I will be His Father, and He will be My Son”? And again, when God brings His firstborn into the world, He says: “Let all God’s angels worship Him.”…
Angels don't worship other angels-they don't rebuke each other..
{Jude 9} can explain that clearly: ""Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
Michael was talking to Satan.

Maximus69:
So are you saying Michael is not the son of God?

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 8:56pm On Aug 25, 2020

I haven't been answering you-I actually believed you died.. You write like a dead man-someone who doesn't seem to have it together..

Janosky:
Brocab can Continue to DECEIVE himself.

Brocab screen the PROOF saying Jesus Christ practiced "monotheistic Christianity" whereas Brocab is super glued to the Triune FRAUD.

That screenshot is eternal PROOF of Brocab HYPOCRISY

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 8:51pm On Aug 25, 2020

Your argument is now with the Watchtower, they did leave John 1:1 in tact-until your bible was discovered by writer Charles Russell.. the founder of the Watchtower-a 33 degree Mason, Russell decided to create his own god from a misquote he believes Jesus is not the Son of God, but Michael the archangel who few down to earth to become the man Jesus to save the world from destruction that's coming....
Wow-this is a over rated theory..
But we can't deny the truth, now can we?

Maximus69:
Of course Isaiah prophesied that the Messiah "will be called Mighty God" so Jesus served that purpose during the time he walked the earth just as Moses also served as God at a point in time! Exodus 7:1

Clearly the Word WAS God just as Moses WAS God, but the one who IS and who WAS and who is coming is JEHOVAH the ALMIGHTY GOD! Revelations 1:8

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 8:38pm On Aug 25, 2020

And if you have read the KJ's from cover to cover for your spiritual goals-then why add and remove the scriptures from your mind, claiming the KJ's doesn't exist any of the following truths..

rabzy:
None of us read our Bible?..I have read the Bible cover to cover...verse 1 to the end and not just me millions of JWs,...it is one of our first spiritual goals.
What you don't know is that we have printed and distributed tens of millions of KJV to people

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 8:32pm On Aug 25, 2020

TATIME:
What he meant is 'you're not reading the Bible with their holy ghost!'

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 8:26pm On Aug 25, 2020

Even after all that you still "VERBALLY" deny-the Watchtower had anything to do with John 1:1, but kept this verse in tact to prove-the Word of God still stands it's ground..
{John1:1} In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
So be proud JW-that the Watchtower did have enough sense not to remove the truth from the KJ's...

rabzy:
None of us read our Bible?..I have read the Bible cover to cover...verse 1 to the end and not just me millions of JWs,...it is one of our first spiritual goals.
What you don't know is that we have printed and distributed tens of millions of KJV to people

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:48am On Aug 24, 2020

You are mistaken-we all know, we don't worship the same God-your god doesn't line up with any bible-let alone the NWT bible.
It's not cursing-it's common sense why I won't agree with your literature, it's false hope!
Nothing good could come out from it-none of you read your bibles-because it doesn't make sense-this is why you try to understand the KJ's, but then, the KJ's is confusing for you too..

Maximus69:
I decided to ignore him since he's not making any sense with his posts, all he wants is for JWs to admit that we are worshiping the same God as he does, as long as we are saying "NO" to that he is desperately looking for ways to curse the blessed people of JEHOVAH!

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:33am On Aug 24, 2020*

We already have cults giving out literature that doesn't concern God that's flooding the net-your's is just another cult giving out cartoon magazines that doesn't supply any support to anybody other then the Watchtower-
Your magazines maybe free but your bibles are expensive, which of course none of you have them-because none of you could understand them.
This gives the world a good reason why none of you could understand the KJ's-and in good reason-your magazines are full of dreams and wonders of false hopes.

rabzy:
Don't transfer your needs on others. We are very well taken care of spiritually and it is attestable by all impartial observers.
Our literature's and books are available online without charge in over 500 languages, pls do tell me which other cult exposes themselves like that.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:26am On Aug 23, 2020

And it sucks even more-when one chooses to become a JW-knowing he or she will never become satisfied in knowledge they retrieve learning about the Watchtowers cultist literature..

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:07am On Aug 23, 2020

Life suck's

Maximus69:
It's OK Sir!

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 1:24pm On Aug 22, 2020

So you have run out of answers...When you ever decide to study the truth-fill free to come come and give it another go..

Maximus69:
It's OK!

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:11pm On Aug 18, 2020

If this is what you truly believe-then at least prove your theory and love those that disagree with you, we are only human..

Maximus69:
It's OK!

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 5:00pm On Aug 17, 2020

Maximus69:
Do you know that a Christian must not carry any weapons not to talk of aiming at a fellowman?
Do you know that a Christian must not think of ruling over his fellowman?
Do you know that a Christian must accept all humans as equal beings?
Do you know that a Christian must always think of how to make peace with his neighbours?

All the above: the JW's fail to do-and still they claim to be Christians..But not you Maximus you hate fellow Christians..

Maximus69:
Most people don't understand what Christianity really means, Mohandas Gandhi said after reading the Bible "I love Jesus but i hate Christians" WHY? Because 99% of those claiming Christians don't understand what Christianity truly stand for.
Do you know that a Christian must not carry any weapons not to talk of aiming at a fellowman?
Do you know that a Christian must not think of ruling over his fellowman?
Do you know that a Christian must accept all humans as equal beings?
Do you know that a Christian must always think of how to make peace with his neighbours?
Well there are so many things most people don't know about Christianity, what they are calling Christianity today was a fabrication by a Roman Emperor who wants to use the power of Religion to conquer the world. Of course it was successful for centuries but when other nations discovered that the Romans only used the Catholic Church to destroy their security system things began changing and ever since then most people started seeing Christianity as a menace in their society!

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:06am On Aug 17, 2020

When anytime you feel you can make any sense out of your page-feel free to drop a line all two..

Janosky:

Thank you,Brocab for the BOLDED.
"Christianity is an Abrahamic monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus"

The Christianity of Jesus Christ is a monotheistic religion ...
That is, ZERO Connection to the Triune pagan IDOLS WORSHIPPED by brocab and his friends- Triune (3) pagan IDOLS WORSHIPPERS and devotees branded as Christendom.

Brocab's Evidence done DISGRACE him Triune pagan IDOLS.
Him PROOF Trinity is not monotheistic.

Isaiah 43:10-12, Acts3:13. 1 Cor3:23 , would Brocab allow his brain CONFESS the Bible truth that Jesus Christ is Jehovah's Servant?

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:05am On Aug 17, 2020

It's ok to a Muslim...

Maximus69:
It's OK!

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 9:38pm On Aug 13, 2020

But still you haven't answered the question-the Watchtower call themselves Christians-so how do you sit with them calling yourself a JW-and you hate them at the same time..
I suppose once a Muslim always a Muslim.
Muslim's are known to hate all Christians.. So I suppose this will never leave you-it doesn't matter what side of the fence you may say you are on-you will always be a Muslim practicing the same faith against the Christians..

Maximus69:
I've told you several times without number, that it is OK, your God differs from mine so we can never agree on anything.
Thanks for your time!

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:26pm On Aug 13, 2020*

Their hearts are deceived-like you-maybe one day-the truth will be revealed: and everything you believed the Watchtower is-was-maybe one day you will know it was all just a lie..
And everything you are taught-everything you believed to be true-would make you vomit..

Maximus69:
Most people don't understand what Christianity really means, Mohandas Gandhi said after reading the Bible "I love Jesus but i hate Christians"

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia..
Christianity is an Abrahamic monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. Its adherents, known as Christians, believe that Jesus is the Christ, whose coming as the messiah was prophesied in the Hebrew Bible, called the Old Testament in Christianity, and chronicled in the New Testament.-
Does not the Jw's claim to be Christian-or is this just a lie-and you thought it's time to reveal their hidden agenda.. That they are not Christians-but a cult deceiving and being deceived buy the Watchtower.. .

Maximus69:
Of course, they were all flogged before taking the shot! That's the reason for the sad faces on Facebook!
See one of them below, he just got baptized into the family of sadists and he's so proud to pose on Facebook.
Is that not sadistic enough to guess their heart condition?

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 5:33am On Aug 11, 2020

The ladies are even looking sad: while the men are putting on there fake faces..

TATIME:
Happy global family (JW)

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:19am On Aug 11, 2020

I am happy you are proud to be you-.Just like I am happy to be me.. .

Maximus69:
Proudly a JW!

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 6:49am On Aug 10, 2020

Maximus69:
The Watchtower Organization claims to be the one and only TRUE Christian group!

I know it's sad-the Watchtower believes such rubbish..
The truth is: if you knew Jesus-you wouldn't write such trash on this page..
No one likes to hear the truth-but Jesus is our only hope-without Him you have no hope,,"and don't expect Jehovah will take you with Him without Jesus present...

Maximus69:
So when talking about wars where people carry weapons to settle disputes amongst themselves JWs have used only God's word (Bible) to settle all matters in their midst. Isaiah 2:4

You don't even use God's Word with us-let alone fighting a war...

Maximus69:
So that's why Zzor is asking for the name of your church perhaps to compare with the Watchtower

I have been giving you the name of my Church all along-but you reject it, your interest only 'is to mock everything Christ had began, "you can't compare the Watchtower with Christ as the head..

Maximus69:
The Watchtower Organization claims to be the one and only TRUE Christian group!
And in a world that's filled with crime, hatred, racism, prejudice and other hurtful things caused by man. The Watchtower have gathered people from different races under the heavens and made them one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally! Micah 4:1-2
So when talking about wars where people carry weapons to settle disputes amongst themselves JWs have used only God's word (Bible) to settle all matters in their midst. Isaiah 2:4
Jesus is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} he said those practicing what he taught will have one mind just as Watchtower Organization have done! John 17:21-23
So that's why Zzor is asking for the name of your church perhaps to compare with the Watchtower that you're saying "Jesus doesn't interact with them" because this same JWs have successfully accomplished what Jesus prayed for, and they did so using imperfect humans (not angels) from different nations! James 2:18-26

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:26am On Aug 10, 2020

If you were to use a little wisdom-instead of laughing-just maybe you could understand-everybody searches for love-we are all made in the image of God-God is Love-and love is what makes us human.."Unless you have a problem' just being you..

Zzor:
im not available and you are wrong to think I will ever love someone I have not seen or interacted with.My feelings are buried down somewhere for now

This is a positive sign: you haven't met Jesus: He is deafeningly someone you haven't seen, or interacted with..
And I suppose the Watchtower could never lead you to Jesus: because Jesus doesn't interact with them either...
My Church is far far away-a place you may never know-a place you may never see-until one day-maybe one day you may find Jesus in your heart-to know He is our savour of our soul..

Zzor:
laughing at you, what makes you think I don't have numerous people offering me love,im not just ready for that,im not available and you are wrong to think I will ever love someone I have not seen or interacted with.My feelings are buried down somewhere for now,i can only admire and run away for now.Happy Sunday,what church do you attend

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 7:58am On Aug 09, 2020

She's looking for love..

johnw47:
na, with satan's mob it can only be hate

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 5:00am On Aug 09, 2020

Zzor is in love with you bro-at the same time she hates you..

johnw47:
lie lie rozz
once it was pastor and now it is fake pastor, but i'm neither

tatime and max started you on those lies, plus other lies
and now look at you, you have become twofold
more the child of hell than they are:

Mat_23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

you may not be one of them yet, but they have encouraged you to lie like they do

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 4:51am On Aug 09, 2020

How many time's do I have to name my Church-I belong to Christ..He is the head of my Church..
You are looking for a name say: the Watchtower-or maybe a Baptise-or a COC or AOG.
These are only names the world had created-but if you were to look at Christ-you wouldn't need to rely on these name's-that separate people from who you think Christ is, to prove you are some what a Christian.

TATIME:
All these is like wasting people's precious time with story story story!
Just mention the name of your church period!

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:35am On Aug 08, 2020*

Most believers do keep those rules-especially those that love the Lord..
We haven't been hiding-we have been with you-since you had decided to write your belief's on this page.
We have always been here all along-it's our duty to be here, we belong to Christ-our Church is not your Church-and still you all refuse to listen..
Everyone has sinned, and one of the results of sin is guilt.
We can be thankful for guilty feelings because they drive us to seek forgiveness.
The moment a person turns from sin to Jesus Christ in faith, his sin is forgiven.
Repentance is part of the faith that leads to salvation {Matthew 3:2; 4:17; Acts 3:19}
If you are willing to stop living your past-just maybe-you might actually become a good person..

TATIME:
Everybody knows but nobody keeps the rules!
Isn't that the reason you've been hiding your Churches?

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