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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 7:10pm On Jul 03, 2020*

Janosky:
Where did John 1:1 say the Father and Son and ghost are one?

{John 1:1} In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
If you had read what was written in the first place I wouldn't have to repeat-Allow me to show you some scriptures-I know you find it difficult to understand about the trinity..
{1. Matthew 3:16} “After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him.”
{2. Matthew 12:28} “But if I [Jesus] cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.”
{3. Matthew 28:19} “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit . . .”
{4. Luke 3:22} “And the Holy Spirit descended upon Him [Jesus] in bodily form like a dove, and a voice came out of heaven, “You are My [the Father’s] beloved Son, in You I am well-pleased.”
[5. John 14:26] “But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My [Jesus’] name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.”
[6. John 15:26] “When the Helper comes, whom I [Jesus] will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify about Me . . .”
{7. Acts 1:4} “Gathering them together, He [Jesus] commanded them not to leave Jerusalem, but to wait for what the Father had promised, “Which,” He said, “you heard of from Me . . .”
{8. Acts 2:33}
“Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, He [Jesus] has poured forth this which you both see and hear.”
{9. Acts 10:38} “You know of Jesus of Nazareth, how God anointed Him with the Holy Spirit and with power, and how He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.”
{10. Romans 1:4} “Who was declared the Son of God with power by the resurrection from the dead, according to the Spirit of holiness, Jesus Christ our Lord . . .”
{11. Romans 8:9} “However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.”
{12. 1 Corinthians 6:11} "Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
{13. 2 Corinthians 13:14} "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all.
{14. Galatians 4:6} "Because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!”
{15. Ephesians 1:17} "That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him. "
{16. Ephesians 2:18} "For through Him we both have our access in one Spirit to the Father.
{17. Ephesians 2:22} "In whom [ Jesus] you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit.
{18. Titus 3:6} "Whom [the Holy Spirit] He poured out upon us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior.
{19. Hebrews 9:14} "How much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
{20. 1 Peter 1:2} "According to the foreknowledge of God the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to obey Jesus Christ and be sprinkled with His blood: may grace and peace be yours in the fullest measure.
So as we can see the trinity theory still stands among the believers-{I said the believers} it's quite simple to understand-the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are One.
{John 1:14} "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. {Jesus}
So obviously Jesus, lived among us. It's Jesus who is coming in the last days-God with Him in Spirit-there's no separation between the Father the Son and the Spirit.. "As I said: I myself don't see a problem with the above-it's pretty simple to understand-It's child's play...

Janosky:
Know NOTHING WAYO man.
Where did John 1:1 say the Father and Son and ghost are one?

John 1:18 , "no man has seen God at ANYTIME"
Does your your brain understand the implications of "ANYTIME" in John 1:18 ?

So your Jesus be the God he always OBEYS

John 1:18 is exposure of your lack of SENSE...

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 4:04am On Jul 03, 2020

The trinity theory is simple to understand-the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are One. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
And then it say's in the same chapter-The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.
So obviously the "Word" is Jesus, He became flesh and lived among us. It's Jesus who is coming in the last days-God with Him in Spirit-there's no separation between the Father the Son and the Spirit..
Jesus always said: He and the Father are One-He said He is doing His Fathers Works-He listens to His Father-obeying Him with everything His Father told Him to do..
I myself don't see a problem with the above-it's pretty simple to understand-It's common sense-wrong teaching-always leads people down the wrong path...

Maximus69:
The so called disbelievers are waiting for the PERFECT definition of TRINITY from Trinitarians, for almost 2,000 years now TRINITY has been causing confusion amongst it's adherents because they can neither come up with one definition nor one unified form of worship under which they can have PEACE, each is emerging with it's own definition, code of conduct, form of worship and titles all under the same mother (TRINITY) Revelations 17:5

Because of TRINITY many people have been killed for asking questions regarding the confusion caused by this harlot, TRINITY is called harlot because she commits adultery with world rulers by pushing her adherents to participate in the politics of wherever they live and everyone knows that when people engage in politics heads will roll and blood will flow! Revelations 17:8

Jesus' followers will be united in preaching and teaching zealously for God's Kingdom (government){Revelations 12:17} but the children of the harlot will be fighting and killing one another for prominence and governance of the world. Revelations 17:18

All these are sacred secrets that only the Born Again Christians can unravel, whenever anyone reads this texts without guidance of God's holy spirit, they'll continue to apply it literally that's why all of you only focus on the literal meaning of words like "burning by fire or lake of fire" but when you read other part of the same book of Revelations, you'll keep off because it's beyond your understanding!

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 4:46am On Jul 02, 2020

As always...

solite3:
they are running away with tails in between their legs.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 4:44am On Jul 02, 2020

Let's not forget-everything concerning the Word of God is beyond your understanding..Jesus's followers are already united-and preaching the Word of God-oop's I don't see you there..

Maximus69:
The so called disbelievers are waiting for the PERFECT definition of TRINITY from Trinitarians, for almost 2,000 years now TRINITY has been causing confusion amongst it's adherents because they can neither come up with one definition nor one unified form of worship under which they can have PEACE, each is emerging with it's own definition, code of conduct, form of worship and titles all under the same mother (TRINITY) Revelations 17:5

Because of TRINITY many people have been killed for asking questions regarding the confusion caused by this harlot, TRINITY is called harlot because she commits adultery with world rulers by pushing her adherents to participate in the politics of wherever they live and everyone knows that when people engage in politics heads will roll and blood will flow! Revelations 17:8

Jesus' followers will be united in preaching and teaching zealously for God's Kingdom (government){Revelations 12:17} but the children of the harlot will be fighting and killing one another for prominence and governance of the world. Revelations 17:18

All these are sacred secrets that only the Born Again Christians can unravel, whenever anyone reads this texts without guidance of God's holy spirit, they'll continue to apply it literally that's why all of you only focus on the literal meaning of words like "burning by fire or lake of fire" but when you read other part of the same book of Revelations, you'll keep off because it's beyond your understanding!

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 4:41am On Jul 02, 2020

Lately I haven't heard from anybody-let alone Solite3-I have been casually arguing the Word to the unbelievers-but you know how it is, it's the Word of God that never makes any sense to the JW's..

johnw47:
bro, i though you would have joined solite3 against these pesky little false jw's

i'm enjoying reading more than posting

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Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:40am On Jul 01, 2020

Now you and John47 are back-I haven't heard a sound from the disbelievers..

solite3:
I m fine bro

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:10am On Jun 30, 2020

How are you bro.. same as above..

solite3:
care to show how trinity is fraud?
many times you jwo always run away when provided with the truth,
Answer these questions
who is Jesus?, an angel or God?
who is the Holy Spirit, a force or a person?

provide biblical reference or forever remain silent.

The Trinity is very simple, one God in three persons.

I have proof for it in the bible,
I have proof that God the father is a different person from the Son and the Holy Ghost,
I have proof that Jesus is Almighty God
The Holy Spirit is a person and Almighty God and the father a person and Almighty God.
All you have is insults and bile to spew all over.

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:09am On Jun 30, 2020

How are you bro, good to have you back ?

johnw47:
false jw mad max
Pro_14:5 A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies.

and wow do you ever utter and utter and utter

Christianity Etc › Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:08am On Jun 30, 2020

This is a good example how twisted this actually sounds,

Janosky:
Bros, John 14:28 Jesus Christ says your Trinitarian quote of Philippians 2:6-7 is FALSE.

Any rendition of Phil 2:6-7 tilted against John 14:28 is a Trinitarian FRAUD.

The holy Bible, John 1:18 "Jesus revealed his own Father" as in his heavenly Father" NOT "one person who takes 3 stages to reveal himself"

Solite3 and brocab both Trinity adherents won't even agree with your version of Trinity

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 1:34am On Jun 29, 2020

I have been waiting for you to prove your doctrine is true-how many times have I gone through the scriptures with you-and still you haven't giving me anything to prove that the NWT Watchtower doctrine is actually right..
This proves, none of you actually believe the NWT version-is true to it's colours-instead you all try to use the KJ's as your example-without having any understanding, your bible teaching skills ends up twisted-and what you preach never makes any sense to the believer.
Of course, if you had believed in any bible truth-you wouldn't hide behind your Watchtower banner just to cover up your disability not knowing the scriptures, "in the progress, if you do have any knowledge-you wouldn't lie against the truth-claiming there's other God's...
{Ephesians 4:5-6} One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Maximus69:
So once you're sure of your freedom, go and worship your God!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 10:53am On Jun 28, 2020

Maximus69:
So Mr brocab talk about yourself because the different religious groups around you are all contradicting one another,

You are so right-the Watchtower is another organisation contradicting itself against everybody else who want's to believe.
[Matthew 23:13} “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in..
The Watchtower teaches that "no-one can enter into the Kingdom of Heaven-you are taught to believe a small few of a 144 000 that are chosen by the Watchtower organisation enters in-while you suckers are waiting for your destiny to live on earth in paradise with Jehovah after He returns..
This of course is a false doctrine-and anybody that listens to this rubbish-really need's to test everybody especially Watchtower elders that teach this stuff-we need to turn back to the Word of God..
The truth will set you free..

Maximus69:
The bolded is what i need in your post Sir!

Over 8,700,000 from different tribes, tongues and national groups have taken us more than serious and have vowed to continue worshiping with us throughout their lifetime. Even in your own remote village you will find my JWs brothers and sisters.
Stop deceiving yourself with the phrase 'none of us' because the organization has form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally and none of you can say there is nobody in his village that has joined the JW global family! Micah 4:1-3
So Mr brocab talk about yourself because the different religious groups around you are all contradicting one another, even your own Church members whom you may refer to as "us" are not with you mind and soul {Mark 3:24-26} you're all scattered as in totally divided amongst yourselves in your understanding of the scriptures! Matthew 12:30

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 4:37am On Jun 28, 2020

I just can't wait until you start making sense, these so called matters have already been dealt with 'but sadly, your own understanding of the bible is mumble jumble, and everything that comes out of your mouth is so confusing not even Jehovah himself would understand you. You are reckless-in what understanding you may think you have...This is a good reason why, none of us take's you seriously..

Maximus69:
Brother no matter what you tell brocab he will still be dragging matters back to the point you've made clear to him.
And when you tell him to go and worship his Jesus he will still come back asking thoughtless questions.
That's why i stopped responding to him, if he wants to gather worshipers for his Jesus let him go preaching and teaching his neighbours, at least he will make some followers there.
He is not ready for practical wisdom so i'm through with him!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 4:15am On Jun 28, 2020*

I have been waiting for you to prove your doctrine is true-how many times have I gone through the scriptures with you-and still you haven't giving me anything to prove that the NWT Watchtower doctrine is actually right.. ""Do you know the Lord said test everything-that means I test pastor's too. meaning I test even you-meaning no-one likes to be wrong-so to prove any factors-you may have-or anybody else in this matter- I turn straight to the Word of God.
I hear people like you all the time-believing you have all the answers-believing you are the chosen,, Jehovah had ordained just for the Watchtower.
{Romans 2:11} For God does not show favoritism.
{Acts 10: 33-35} I sent for you immediately, and you were kind enough to come. Now then, we are all here in the presence of God to listen to everything the Lord has instructed you to tell us.” Then Peter began to speak: “I now truly understand that God does not show favoritism, but welcomes those from every nation who fear Him and do what is right.…
This is a good reason why, none of us take's any of you seriously..
All I keep on hearing from all of you- is you pounce around like God had picked the Watchtower personality out from amongst everybody else that believes in any truth concerning Christ, you don't listen to reason-you cast the first stone against anybody that doesn't belong to your organisation, "you try to rewrite the scriptures through your mind-you believe everybody outside your religion, is deafeningly going down hill, while you are climbing to the top. ""And this is all done in all kindness of Love...

TATIME:
You've been repeating this same thing over and over again yet Maximus keep telling you it's not the way your Pastors taught you, so there's no need to going through worthless arguments again!
It's either you stick to what your Pastors taught you or you learn what the passages really means in the practical sense.
But it's obvious you've made up your mind on the issue so continue with your God!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:49am On Jun 24, 2020

But the point your not understanding is-if you believe it's Jehovah coming back-then you must believe Jehovah is Jesus coming back-just like the Watchtower had written to believe it's true.
{NWT-Revelation 22:20} The One who bears witness of these things say's. "Yes, I Am coming quickly."
"Amen" Come. Lord Jesus..
This is from your own bible-now we can't deny it's not there-it's written, so if God is coming back then God and Jesus are One....
Just as the scriptures tells us so..
{John 14:8-11} Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time?
Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?
The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me.
No one had seen God at anytime-because God is Spirit..""So if Jesus isn't the One coming back-and since Jehovah is Spirit, how can anybody believe Watchtower truth-if it isn't scriptural..

TATIME:
Jehovah's Witnesses are prepared already, we are fully aware of the impending storm that will soon wipe out all the minor religious sentiments Satan has been using to blur people's minds against us {Revelations 16:13,14} soon all the religions on this planet will become one only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES will remain standing as one against the one world Religion {Revelations 16:15} by that time none of those outside our organization will be able to join us because we will have stopped preaching and teaching completely, our worship will then be in SPIRIT and TRUTH fully. Of course the one world Religion is Satan's arrangement so he will turn all his forces against Jehovah's Witnesses {Revelations 16:14} that's when JEHOVAH will come out boldly to defend his true worshipers {Ezekiel 38:23} Then all Satan's armies will have to know (face) our God and King JEHOVAH!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:18am On Jun 23, 2020*

Faith is not about a Church building-Churches will never be the same-thank God for that-you see the bible as just a book-I see much more then that-I see the spiritual side of it. So it's beyond our mentality-but its a learning progress.
How People see a Church building-what their reasons are attending one, is their business, and how I deal with God is mine, and yours is any god, as quote...
If you really understood your beliefs-it isn't just a book, matter of fact it was your beliefs that rewrote your own NWT version only because the Watchtower couldn't understand the bible in the first place.
As an Atheist-or anybody with different beliefs of some other kind, does it really matter what they believe, I don't fellowship with God, fearing what the Atheist believe.
As far as Church buildings, no one likes the virus, but, its actually bringing people together-people from all walks of life-are communicating-and if we just open up our eye's we can see what is falling into place- Actually if you had left the bible alone in the first place, you could see something or someone is working overtime-and since we understand love, Love is all around us..
"People"-we never thought they existed' are coming out of the wood works-people are being loved all over the world-people are coming together, blacks and white's are standing together fighting the same battles, we are becoming One.
Soon the world will stand up-to become A one nation-A one world government-A new world order-it's falling into place-just like the bible said it will...

TATIME:
The conclusion of the matter is go and make your beliefs work out what benefits mankind so it will become obvious that you truly know God in the absence of that the book you're arguing for remains just a book!
That's why ATHEISM is claiming most Churchgoers today, just wait and see what happens after the pandemic, if Churches will ever remain the same.
The only thing those ATHEISTS failed to understand is that 99% of Churchgoers are going to church not because they truly believe in any God but they're trying to cope with what others in their society are doing like weddings, naming ceremony, birthdays, burials, house warming and the rest. Most people just want to belong to a group so that they may see people who will come and celebrate/mourn with them that's all!

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:25am On Jun 21, 2020

Janosky:
John 17:21-22

21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one:

@ the BOLDED, Jesus Christ says brocab is DECEIVING himself.. Jesus says his disciples ( Paul and Apollos are one (united ,1 Cor 3:6-8 ) just as Yahweh and Jesus are united. Amos 3:3.

Summary:
Paul and Apollos are one,1 Cor 3:6-8.
Husband and wife are one,Mark19:4-6.
Jesus and his Father are one, just as Jesus disciples are one. John 17:21-22.

Revelations 1:1 says " the Revelation which God gave Jesus to show God's servants.....
Bros, Revelations 1:5-6., .knocks off your MUMU FRAUD.
Revelations 22:20, "I am coming quickly...." It is the words of the Boss,Yahweh who gave Jesus the message ( in Revelations 1:1,5-6).
Brocab, your Boss sent you a message to give His workers, whose words would you speak to the workers ?

WAYO brocab FRAUD Man, " We" can NEVER be "He".
Brocab ,You have ZERO SENSE.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 1:56am On Jun 21, 2020*

So what you are saying the Watchtower have all rights to change the scriptures, just to suit themselves.-which of course they aren't spirit filled disciples-so really we have mire men without the spirit twisting and turning the gospel-how they please, ''and of course you chase after them..
You all write the scriptures-but none of you actually believe the scriptures are true, I find the Watchtower is like dealing with the blind..
We don't need Watchtower input, I have studied with the best of you-and still none know the NWT-you all try and use the KJ's version, and still you haven't the slightest idea, how the scriptures sound-to be honest I wouldn't dare ask the Holy Spirit to teach me the NW Translation., I find the KJ's-is God's Word, I just wish you all leave the bible alone-receive Jesus into your hearts and be saved..
The Watchtower began from Charles Russell, before that-he was a seven day Adventist, and died as a Mason! His own beliefs were, Michael the archangel became Jesus on earth, he couldn't find it in his heart that Jesus is who He say's He is-so Charles Russell wrote his own bible, to prove Jesus is just a mire angel and not a man...

TATIME:
For some time now i've been of from the Forum only to appear and leave if i notice somewhere i can just ship in a word or two.
I'm sure you'll like to reason with the words of Jesus, you and i weren't around when the Jewish carpenter walked this earth. But his words are well documented for our use today. The Bible is undisputably God's inspired word but it wasn't originally written in the language you and i have with us today. So during the copying and translating of these inspired expressions many things have gone wrong. That's why we need to find out what exactly the Bible writers had in mind when they were penning down those words.
First of all they were talking about the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who always organise his worshipers orderly and peacefully, so if we found ourselves in the gathering of people whose form of worship doesn't reflect the attributes of that same God, then something must be wrong somewhere.

Jesus said "by their FRUIT you will know them" this implies that no matter how hard Satan tries to complicate issues, the main attributes of the true God will continue to reflect in the midst of his true worshipers.

JWs began when few Americans noticed that the attributes of the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob is nowhere to be found yet religious groups are increasing on daily basis. That's why they went back to make research on the inspired scriptures to find out where mankind got it wrong, this led to so many discoveries and they began making effort to correct the blunders of their former religious leaders. It led to many troubles as their former Church fathers became furious and aggressive so they decided to stand out as a group, the result is what we now have today called JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.
So if you're saying "they changed the word of God" try putting the clause "they changed what we know as the word of God"

Remember Jesus' words when he said "people don't gather grape from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise every good tree produces fine fruits and every rotten tree produces worthless fruits, a good tree can't bear worthless fruits nor can a rotten tree bear good fruit" Matt 7:16-18

So in a nutshell, if it's not the authentic God's word that the JWs are using in their midst, it's impossible to make all the things you and i are seeing work in their midst! James 2:18-26

And if you want to accuse them of any wrongdoing, ask your self "do the group i worship with free from the accusation i want to level against them?" If the group with whom you worship is guilty of any offence and you're now saying "because it happens amongst JWs that makes them false" what does that say about the type of person you are yourself? Does that proves you to be sincere with yourself?

Remember if it's not the original word of God that they're using amongst them, it cannot change people's hearts the way JWs are changing people from fierce to humble and we'll meaning citizens globally. Heb 4:12

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 3:08am On Jun 20, 2020*

Janosky:
WAYO brocab FRAUD Man, " We" can NEVER be "He".
Brocab ,You have ZERO SENSE.[/b]

Some people-just don't get it, obviously you are one of them--Dumb! undecided

No one is trying to be God-none of us is Jesus, and deafeningly we are not the Holy Spirit-but we are one when we have chosen to share the very same gospel the disciples preached to us...
We never changed the Word of God-the Watchtower changed to suit your mentally, unspirit filled men rewrote the scriptures-so people like you' don't need the Holy Spirit to teach you the mystery's of God, anybody in their right mind-spirit filled believers know-the Word of God is useless without the Spirit of the Lord teaching us the secrets in His message..
It's simple to understand-when Jesus say's Father You Are in Me, and I Am in You-that they be in Us also-I was taught the Word of God-and I choose to spread the same message I am taught, So if Jesus is in the Father and visa versa-preaching the same gospel-then I am also with them preaching their message.
Where in your case-you are one with the Watchtower-you preach their doctrine-which doesn't hold any truth-I am not holding this against you-but you preach what you are taught"""sadly all your knowledge comes out from a Watchtower pictured magazine-that's taught to you in Kingdom Hall""if you knew your bible, or the KJ's-we wouldn't be having this conversation..

Janosky:
John 17:21-22

21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one:

@ the BOLDED, Jesus Christ says brocab is DECEIVING himself.. Jesus says his disciples ( Paul and Apollos are one (united ,1 Cor 3:6-8 ) just as Yahweh and Jesus are united. Amos 3:3.

Summary:
Paul and Apollos are one,1 Cor 3:6-8.
Husband and wife are one,Mark19:4-6.
Jesus and his Father are one, just as Jesus disciples are one. John 17:21-22.

Revelations 1:1 says " the Revelation which God gave Jesus to show God's servants.....
Bros, Revelations 1:5-6., .knocks off your MUMU FRAUD.
Revelations 22:20, "I am coming quickly...." It is the words of the Boss,Yahweh who gave Jesus the message ( in Revelations 1:1,5-6).
Brocab, your Boss sent you a message to give His workers, whose words would you speak to the workers ?

WAYO brocab FRAUD Man, " We" can NEVER be "He".
Brocab ,You have ZERO SENSE.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 4:09am On Jun 19, 2020*

Father you are in Me, as I Am in You, that they be in Us-that the world will know that You sent Me.
So if God is in Jesus, then God is Spirit-Just like the scriptures tells us ''He Is..
O"" I must agree with the Watchtower-they claim Jesus "Not Jehovah" is coming back..
{Revelation 1: 8-NWT} I Am the Alpha and the Omega says Jehovah" God the One who is and who was, and "" Who is Coming" the Almighty.......
{Revelation 22:20-NWT} The one who bears witness of these things says "Yes" I Am coming quickly. ''Amen Come Lord Jesus."
So its pointless to deny the fact-that even your own country men in the watchtower-also believes "Truth. Where in fact, you' nor your comrades believe the truth...

Janosky:
Brocab MISQUOTING Matthew 4:10 and the holy Scriptures

In that verse , who did your "God" command you to worship?

Brocab keeps repeating the GROSS ERROR that God sent himself to the earth. John 3:16-17.

John 5:37. John 20:17,30-31. Revelations 3:5, Janosky believes the truth revealed by Jesus Christ.
Bros, Almighty Yahweh has no Father.
Please reset your brain.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 4:51am On Jun 18, 2020

It doesn't matter how you see it-the Word of God will always come up front, you call it arguments-I call it truth..
Without it-your brass instruments, will always sound out of tune..So your doctrine is a waste of time, for those that need to be saved..
Christ is the only answer-no one had seen God at anytime-God is Spirit, Jesus prayed Father you are in Me, as I Am in you, that they be in Us.. .

Maximus69:
Just allow him to continue worshiping his Jesus, even with all the evidences pointing to the fact that they're confused amongst them, he will continue arguing blindly that it's you who is connected to your brothers in FAITH that's wrong! John 17:21-23

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 3:04am On Jun 16, 2020*

Your god the devil bows down before God too..And what more can anybody agree upon-that it takes two of you to tangle..
{Matthew 4:10} Jesus said to you, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.”
We can go at each other all day long-the problem is-there is one Lord and saviour, one God-one baptism, one Spirit-all three in one body. Father you are in Me, as I Am in You, that they be in Us-that the world will know that You sent Me.
It would make a big difference if only you were taught to believe the truth in Christ..

Janosky:
Jesus Your god is WORSHIPPING his God and Father in heaven
IDOL WORSHIPPERS DISOBEDIENT to Jesus Christ and his Father (Matthew 4:10. John 7:16 )

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 5:23am On Jun 15, 2020

XshegzzyeeiX:
Please, stop embarrasing me.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 9:55am On Jun 14, 2020

Not even medication?

XshegzzyeeiX:
Never have.
Never will.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:34am On Jun 08, 2020

So you see, this is why the wise don't listen to you..it's only those who haven't the slightest idea who Christ is in the first place-that put up with you..

Maximus69:
Thanks Sir!

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 4:49am On Jun 07, 2020

To be honest-I don't give a hoot-what religion you bow down too. the one I care for most is the right one-Jesus Christ is Lord.
All play the religious game-either it is witchcraft-devil worship-or Jehovah Witnesses, those that deny the truth about Jesus are all the same to me, my job is to share the gospel.
So no-one is forcing anybody to believe-as long as you are content with yourselves-nothing else matters..

Maximus69:
It's okay Sir!

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:03pm On May 30, 2020

Everyone who has fellowship with our Jesus 'flocks together.. "

Maximus69:
So since it's obvious that our Jesus differs, continue worshiping your own Jesus.

We are not on the same page!

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 12:00pm On May 30, 2020

You are mistaken, darkness and light can't flock together..

Janosky:
Is that man your Churchpreneur ?
That man is a disciple of Jesus Christ, unknown to John.

Isaiah 42:10-12. Acts 3:13. Revelations 3:5,11-14, John 7:16., Jesus Christ is a Jehovah's witness, there is absolutely NOTHING you can do about it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:49am On May 30, 2020

Do you think its a joke-do you see me laughing-every time I see pictures like these, I am looking at lost souls ready to be slaughtered..
[2 Timothy 3:16} States All scripture is given be inspiration of God."
{2 Peter 2:20-21} it plainly states: "No prophecy of the scriptures is of any private INTERPRETATION.
For the prophesy came not in old time by the will of man: buy Holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the HOLY SPIRIT."
But its unfortunate the Watchtower have set up men-to write a NWT bible without the spirit of the Lord directing them, and yet it was God Himself who inspired unskilled men giving them the gift to write the inspired Word of God-that holds its true valve today.....
This is no joke-you think you are saved? Saved by whom.

Maximus69:
Go and worship your own God my friend, leave this arguments.
Jehovah's Witnesses are worshiping our own God, preaching, teaching and baptising them as instructed by Jesus throughout the earth!

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 11:15pm On May 26, 2020*

Yes Jesus Jehovah is different to the KJ's-you have written your own NWT bible denying the truth about Christ-you preach non biblical literature that couldn't save yourselves 'let alone anybody else.
{Matthew 23:13-14} But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.
Does this ring a bell?
Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation.
You enter into broken homes with broken down families-pushing yourselves into private affairs, pushing Watchtower literature upon helpless victims, separating families from each other children are tormented-elders molesting the innocent-raping men and women, your literature refuses to save lives-Jehovah witnesses are worst then before-your brainwashing system is sending you into Hell, knowing a life can't be saved if one joins the Watchtower..

Maximus69:
So since it's obvious that our Jesus differs, continue worshiping your own Jesus.

We are not on the same page!

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:12am On May 25, 2020*

Jesus did establish a group-He separated Himself from the Pharisees who taught man made tradition through Judaism--the disciples separated themselves from the Pharisees-they taught in the courtyards outside the synagogues-taking the new followers home teaching them the truth about Jesus..
So yes they did establish a group that separated themselves away from the crowd..Jesus claims His Kingdom is not of this world.. "Where in your case Kingdom Hall is part of this world.,-so how does darkness and light flock together...
Jesus's said these are my mother brothers sisters, because if you were to read the scriptures, James the brother of Jesus-didn't believe Jesus was the Son of God, until Jesus rose again, Jesus knew the siblings didn't believe-did even His Mother Mary have any doubts? .He said: those who do the will of My Father are My Mother Brothers and Sisters.

Maximus69:
Jesus has told us that many will profess to be his disciples in our own time but they will not like to submit to Christ's principles {Matthew 7:21-23} so if you've found a better group than Jehovah's Witnesses Organization go and join them but don't expect us to count you as one of us unless you are ready to be submissive to our rules which we strictly believe is true Christianity!

You talk about being submissive to your Church 'but not to Christ? you follow your traditional rules and regulations, claiming your organisation is doing your Fathers works, all I hear from you, is winching and winding-you have been that brainwashed, you actually believe the Watchtower are Jehovah's true disciples...
You are mistaking {Mark 9: 38-40}: "John said to him, 'Teacher, we saw a man casting out demons in your name, and we forbade him, because he was not following us.' But Jesus said, 'Do not forbid him; for no one who does a mighty work in my name will be able soon after to speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is for us.'"
So you see, this man didn't follow watchtower rules-nor was he part of your organisation-and yet he was casting out demons in Jesus's name. Working for the Lord...

Maximus69:
Jesus has not established the group when his followers did that, so he told them that whoever is not against them is one of them. But after Pentecost whoever wants to practice Christianity must join the group under the supervision of Jesus' Apostles {Act 2:42} Apollos was a believer who believed in Jesus but only knew what John the baptist taught so {Act 18:24-26} had it been that Apollos argued with Priscilla and Aquila about Faith when he is not with the group he can't be saved!
Jesus has told us that many will profess to be his disciples in our own time but they will not like to submit to Christ's principles {Matthew 7:21-23} so if you've found a better group than Jehovah's Witnesses Organization go and join them but don't expect us to count you as one of us unless you are ready to be submissive to our rules which we strictly believe is true Christianity!

God bless you!

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 4:23am On May 20, 2020

That's the one.. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother-where in fact 'you can't accept anybody that doesn't belong outside the Watchtower..
But as we read: someone outside your organisation, one who refuses to follow after the Watchtower, one who refuses to obey Watchtower rules and regulations, and yet this one soul is casting out demons in Jesus name-in fact this lonely soul is actually working for the Lord...
{Luke 9:49-50} "Master," said John, "we saw a man driving out demons in your name and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us."
"Do not stop him," Jesus said, "for whoever is not against you is for you."

Maximus69:
Just as Jesus won't accept you if you're not ready to live by his rules! Matthew 12:46-49

Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 Facts People Should Know About Them by brocab: 2:22am On May 17, 2020

The truth is'' the JW's won't accept anybody-outside their square..

Maximus69:
You've tried Sir, more grease to your elbow!

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