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Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:36am On Dec 23, 2022
Not the Watchtower. I am born again, I believe in a much greater belief, most Christians know it as the Word of God.
cornelboy:
What's your religion or church? grin
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 6:17am On Dec 23, 2022
I remember the JW's from a very early age, nothing has changed about them, they have always been the centre of attention, always mocked by the public.
This organisation is under a Curse 'ever since it began, and it's quite understandable by their fruit we will know them, I have never met one JW, who would really take their time to show they really care for the needy, their terms and agreements' are more focused upon who's accepted into Watchtower Kingdom.
Most of all, they focused upon those that haven't the slightest idea about the Word of God, "Once they have them, it's easier to keep them in a box:
{Deuteronomy 28} say's it all, especially beginning at verse 15} Curse will come upon anybody who refuses to mediate day and night on the Word of God-obeying His Commandments, staying under God's Covenant and following His Law.
The Watchtower is no different to other organisations such as prosperity teachers, who lie in wait for the weak the Poor and the needy, mother's father's widow's strangers, those that can't afford to survive without some kind of support.
These people are used to supply the rich man's wealth 'while the suppliers continually live in ruins and poverty..
Wake up people, you maybe one of those living the Curse...
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 1:33am On Dec 23, 2022
{ 2 Corinthians 11:4, Galatians 1:8} But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!
Jehovah witnesses, believe Jesus is Michael the Archangel.
{2 Corinthians 11;14-15} And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
It is not surprising, then, if his servants also masquerade as servants of righteousness.
This say's it all.
Courz:
What you are seeing is evidence that JWs love Fantasies and their leaders give them exactly that. Watchtower takes JWs for idiots. If you read their publications, you will see that Watchtower loves insulting their intelligence and since they forbid critical thinking skills, JWs will happily choose to remain blind. JWs are very lazy psychologically and prefer somebody else to do the thinking for them. That's what long term Brainwashing does to you. It is a very unfortunate sight to behold. But the Bible already talked about people like JWs, people who would prefer to have their ears tickled, to keep hearing Fantasies even tho the fantasies keep changing often. These are the people God abandons to their desires. The only JWs who wake up and realise they are a Cult are those who have noticed things that don't make sense and have accumulated doubts overtime about the Cult. There is absolutely no way you will be in this Cult and you won't notice a lot of anomalies or strange events. All what you have to do is give yourself the permission to research the Cult which is what Watchtower forbids and then you will wake up! That's why we call JWs who research the Cult those that have Woken up. The rest are still asleep.
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 1:10am On Dec 23, 2022
If the Watchtower had law and order within, and obeyed the Law of the land, instead of keeping it in the Watchtowers secret society, then I suppose the world wouldn't be hearing it advertised or over the globe.
{2 Corinthians 6:17} “Therefore come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord. Touch no unclean thing, and I will receive you.”
The Lord said: come out from them, but if you choose to stay-then obviously you will be accuse of these crimes the Watchtower are continually involved in.
I wouldn't stay in any Church temple whatever-who's main menu is focused upon Crimes such as these.
cornelboy:
They were adulterers among the early church.
JWs are not angels and we don't claim that we're perfect.
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab:
There's so much evident's around that proves the Watchtower is a cult-but sadly it's spellbound to Jehovah witnesses-brainwashed as we know it, they are not willing to find any truth that concerns their faith.
The Watchtower have blinded them so much, these people can't even think for themselves, continually you have showed them word for word about the manuscripts you have found about the Watchtower organisation on line, and still they refuse everything you have laid out in front of them!
They don't realize you and the many are only trying to help them.
Reading between the page's I noticed the "White Watchtower had laid a Curse' upon the black's-because their color-Jesus was not white, He lived in Egypt with His parents, to stay away from King Herod-obviously they needed to blend into Egypt.
And look what happened to Jesus-He Himself was Cursed by the White race. It's a religious concept-from the Catholic Church, to think Jesus was ever white. And it's more a religious concept to think once black, you will end up in heaven to be with the Lord-you become free and White.
And if any White race who thinks they have any rights to persecute them because their color is Black. they need to get away from that cultist organisation.
Courz:
JWs feeding on the imaginations of Men. Your Watchtower leaders are not even sure if what they teach you is true. Look at Former Watchtower President Nathan Knorr who has fed you JWS all the doctrines you teach today.

As exposed by Ray Franz (Former Governing body member), Nathan Knorr was honest enough to say he isn't sure if what they teach you JWs are True including 1914 doctrine. The only thing he knows that are true and he is sure of are God, Jesus coming to die and be resurrected. Finish!

JWs are on a long thing with their Watchtower leadership as they are being fed imaginations. They are not sure if what JWs believe in are true but they need JWs to believe them as Truth. What a Scam!

So, if they are not sure of their doctrines, who has been feeding them these doctrines?
PoliticsRe: Is It Possible To Get To Aso Rock Without Being Initiated Into The Occult? by brocab: 11:52pm On Dec 22, 2022
If you are looking-bong shops are not hard to find.
swaggerjack:
100... I have been to a bong shop with my friend.
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:32pm On Dec 20, 2022
Misleading Information: Lies in the Watchtower
This article discusses numerous topics where Watchtower articles use blatant lies to mislead people.
It is shocking for anyone with trust in Watchtower teachings to learn of such dishonesty.
Table of Contents
Lies
Jehovah in the New Testament
Worship Jesus
Plagiarism
Death refusing Blood Transfusions
1914 Quotes
1925 - Millions Now Living Will Never Die
Naos
Russell's Biography
20th Century
Baptism
Blame Members
Downplay Defection
African Watchtower Story
War
Splinter Groups
Light Gets Brighter
VaccinationsBulgaria & Blood Tranfusions


Child Abuse - Paedophilia Policy

Child Abuse - Court Settlements

Children and Blood Transfusions

Child Discipline - Corporal Punishment

Dishonesty & Misquotes in the Watchtower

Donations and Solicitation

Elder's Secret Manual

Higher Education - University

Letter to Hitler

Malawi vs Mexico

Political Involvement

United Nations NGO

Women's Place as Jehovah's Witnesses

What's wrong with being a Witness?
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:06am On Dec 20, 2022
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? "No"
MaxInDHouse:
Agreement?
Naaaaaaaaaaaaa i only agree with JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES as for you and your cohorts we JWs are not on the same page with you people! smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 8:56am On Dec 20, 2022
So finely we have come to some agreement then. Be proud, be happy..
MaxInDHouse:
Praise the Lord! smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 8:32am On Dec 20, 2022
Max you are deafeningly a child minded idiot.
MaxInDHouse:
First go and tell your Jesus to settle the disparities that's making it's followers slaughter one another in the face of politics and racism then you can come back to me! wink
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab:
Aemmyjah:
Jesus Christ did not say he was the Father
Jehovah God said: Jesus is God-
Let's read Hebrews:
{Hebrews 1:5-14} For to which of the angels did God ever say,
“You are my Son;
today I have become your Father”
Or again,
“I will be his Father,
and he will be my Son”
And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,
“Let all God’s angels worship him.”
In speaking of the angels he says,
“He makes his angels spirits,
and his servants flames of fire.”
BUT ABOUT THE SON HE SAYS,
“YOUR THRONE ,O GOD, WILL LAST FOR EVER AND EVER.
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
THEREFORE GOD, YOUR GOD, HAS SET YOU ABOVE YOUR COMPANIONS.
by anointing you with the oil of joy.”

He also says,
“IN THE BEGINNING, LORD, YOU LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH,
AND THE HEAVENS ARE THE WORK OF YOUR HAND.

They will perish, but you remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
You will roll them up like a robe;
like a garment they will be changed.
But you remain the same,
and your years will never end.”
To which of the angels did God ever say,
“Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet”

Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?
This is good enough for me to believe the Word of God-IF THE FATHER IS CALLING HIS SON JESUS 'GOD, then I am convinced that's who Jesus is..
Aemmyjah:
Jesus Christ did not say he was the Father
Both we're united in purpose. He prayed to his Father and gave thanks to him. You've not mentioned the holy spirit as a person?
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:41pm On Dec 19, 2022
I suppose the blind don't see what the blind don't do, this forum is full of believers uniting together, preaching the gospel of Christ, with good reason you don't see it, is because the blind Watchtower is leading the blind.
It doesn't matter where we are, how far we stand, Christ is working through us uniting us together preaching the Word of God to the four corners around the globe.
We don't stand with you Max, we can't, we won't, your gospel is not the gospel we are taught in scripture.
The Lord say's in {2 Corinthians 11:13} I am afraid, however, that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent’s cunning, your minds may be led astray from your simple and pure devotion to Christ..
Eve was deceived by the serpent Max, you also Max are led astray from the truth..
This verse is for you Max, {2 Corinthians 11: 14} If he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted—you may well put up with it.
Well we don't put up with it Max, we don't accept your religious concept's, we can't, we wont, we are already united together in Christ. preaching His gospel around all nation's, "we preach the Word of God to you, Max.
I would prefer if you were reading the scriptures from the bible, instead of the Watchtower magazine, I would feel more comfortable reading a Superman comic, then trying to listen to someone who haven't the slightest idea, how to use bible knowledge.
I am trying to help you Max..
MaxInDHouse:
Your Jesus that can't unite it's followers as one shey? cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 12:03pm On Dec 19, 2022
{Acts 5:42} Day after day, in the temple courts and from house to house, they never stopped teaching and proclaiming the good news that Jesus is the Messiah.
All you have to do is look up scripture dummy..
Aemmyjah:
Nonsense
Show us when that was done in the Bible that the disciples went to preach in public places and took those that listened back to their homes. Was that the case of the euthiopan eunuch?
Is that what is done in your own Church?
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:49am On Dec 19, 2022
My destruction is further away from your destruction, your destruction is nearby" turn from your wicked way's Max and come follow Christ.
MaxInDHouse:
Keep lying to your own soul, your destruction is right at the corner! smiley smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:42am On Dec 19, 2022
{John 14:8-12} Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”
Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.
Obviously these verses are up front, I don't see any separations between the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, I see all three working in unity with each other.
When I witness the Word of God, I see God working in me, I see unity working together, I am not Jesus-but I am what I am, and God working through me to spread His gospel to the nations.
Hopefully this will sink in this time?
Aemmyjah:
Tell me when you have out your brain back into it's place and I'll answer you

Jesus christ said 'My Father and I are one'. Jehovah is not Jesus. Mr Courz
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:25am On Dec 19, 2022
Kingdom Hall is somewhat like the pharisees temple..
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:23am On Dec 19, 2022
Actually No, this Church began with the disciples, not entering into the temple's themselves they witnessed in the court yards, and brought people back to their homes and baptized them in Jesus Name.
Aemmyjah:
Which one is the Church at Home?
Is that a new church?
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:20am On Dec 19, 2022
Actually No, it's knowledge I have read from you..
Aemmyjah:
Lol
Knowledge from your butt right?
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:17am On Dec 19, 2022
Have you heard about the Church at Home. maybe one day you will understand it, hopefully you will decide to join with Us in Christ.
And maybe you will leave that cultist Hall you call home alone.
Maybe we could sit with you and witness to you showing you scriptures, we know your organisation had forbidden you to read.
Only because they have you dancing with the devil, and the spirit in you, is obviously the spirit in them, which is not the spirit of God, which will draw you further away from the truth, just to believe the Watchtowers lie of the devil.
So wake up, and take it upon yourself, the truth will set you free.
Aemmyjah:
Mad liar
Mention your own church and stop hiding
There is Deeper life
There is Redeemed
There is The Synagogue
There is Salvation ministries

All these have different doctrine and practices and it's is foolish to think that all these practices and beliefs are truth. Mention your own or remain silent still
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:58am On Dec 19, 2022
So you agree that Jehovah is now Jesus
Aemmyjah:
Until you put your brain in your head, I will answer your question but this one is too stupid to answer
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:57am On Dec 19, 2022
We know your kingdom is stealing from the poor
Aemmyjah:
Lol
You think our elders are like you
How much did the elders earn in the first century per week?
PoliticsRe: Is It Possible To Get To Aso Rock Without Being Initiated Into The Occult? by brocab: 10:55am On Dec 19, 2022
Yes they come in all type's,
swaggerjack:
You have never seen a bong before.
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:52am On Dec 19, 2022
So what you are saying Jesus Christ is not the foundation of the Watchtower, the foundation is Jehovah God..
Aemmyjah:
JESUS christ is the head of the congregation
He directs the congregation
Our worship are directed to Jehovah God. The same Person Jesus Christ worship
PoliticsRe: Is It Possible To Get To Aso Rock Without Being Initiated Into The Occult? by brocab: 8:18am On Dec 19, 2022
Looks like a bong, are you smoking the hoota bro?
swaggerjack:
Is It Possible To Get To Aso Rock Without Been Initiated Into the Occult?
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 8:14am On Dec 19, 2022
I have been advertising the Church at Home, everyone is flocking to it, kissabride she/he obviously fellowships across the globe, where is your kingdom hall? If there's any? "what's the name of your elder, does he/she live close by? How much cash does he earn weekly from you?
Aemmyjah:
Sorry
You have failed to mention your church name
Your pastor's name
The activities in your church or what makes it unique
Like I said, we address one another as brother and sister
Go and call you pastor as brother if he will not ask the holy ghost to knock your head

A publisher is someone that makes something known to the public
We are kingdom publishers or Kingdom proclaimers as we publish or proclaim God's kingdom as Jesus Christ foretold as he himself and his disciples did. Unlike today, where others publishers prosperity
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 7:40am On Dec 19, 2022
Max does this mean, you don't want to come to Christ and be saved?
Come on Max you can be One like Us in Christ 'who's saved.
Don't be like the world Max-don't follow after them, come and give yourself to the Lord,
We can have your name up in light's, Max is now a born again Christian..
Praise the Lord:
MaxInDHouse:
Keep what you know for those that will subscribe to it we will also keep ours for those that will subscribe to it.
No wahala! grin
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 7:27am On Dec 19, 2022
Max the WATCHTOWER remind's me of a school play ground, where in fact the most deadliness tools children play is verbal abuse: it's main attraction in many cases through mental breakdowns, it can cause an illness we recognize as suicide. And I find this weapon is played so well within a group called the Watchtower!
This is to easy Max, I thought you said: you were X CIA, they don't go down without a fight. don't do anything nasty to yourself, relax, and just maybe, someone like Courz Johnw, or myself will be knocking on your door, bringing with us the greatest tool that ever existed on earth, the Word of God, so maybe you and your family will be saved...
Bless is the man who comes in the name of the Lord, the kingdom of God has come near to him..
MaxInDHouse:
Good!
Keep what you know for your type and we'll keep what we know for our type, it's a free world people like you will subscribe to your beliefs and people with our mindset will do the same with us. wink
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:30pm On Dec 18, 2022
Well done, this is deafeningly cool.
Courz:
Please don't mind the lies JWs are spewing in this thread. That dunce claims JWs don't pay tithes. That's a very big lie. JWs call their Tithes Voluntary contributions. The real truth is in every Congregation, each publisher has a particular amount to pay Watchtower per month. They brand it Voluntary contribution to make it sound palatable to the ears but the truth exposes itself when Deficits are announced in the Kingdom halls. There was a time pieces of paper were passed to each JW To state how much they can pay Watchtower per month. When there is a Deficit announced, it means that each JW is not contributing the required/stated amount they said they would.

Another observation that was made is that Watchtower makes a lot of money during conventions since the JWs in attendance are usually in Thousands. All they have to do is announce to JWs that they have a Deficit and JWs will be forced to make a lot of contributions. Watchtower makes millions In many western countries per year. And all the contributions only go one way: To Watchtower headquarters at Warwick. Money never flows from Watchtower to JWs. No Charity. No nothing. Because Watchtower is a Business Corporation disguised as a Religion to escape Taxes.

Below is the amount each JW is to pay Watchtower per month in different countries.

If Watchtower expects certain amounts of money per JW per month, that is Tithe no matter how you look at it. JWs will lie to themselves to see it differently. Presently, there is an increase in their leaders begging for more money in their Broadcasts.
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:26pm On Dec 18, 2022
If I wanted to learn from you and become a lair, I know where I could contact you, if not, Janosky or your wife are always on line trying to convince somebody 'Hell is just down the road in Kingdom Hall.
I have studied with elders from the Watchtower, they come in two's and four's sometimes more uninvited into ones home, they test to see how much people know their bibles, once they see you know scripture, they then try to gang up on the people, throwing verses around trying to confuse the topic they began with, by twisting and turning the Word to see if they can turn you away from the truth-to believe their lies.
So how can you teach me Max? When in fact I am teaching you the very Word, you haven't the slightest idea the bible actually exist.
So if the Watchtower's literature doesn't make any sense, so in what way would you make any sense?
And what further information do I have to give-we all know the Watchtower don't learn from any bible that actually contains the Word of God, they get their teachings from a imagine.
I might as well read a Superman comic, I may even get some excitement out of it.
I never asked about JW's paying tithes, you just offed the information, "I don't pay tithes, so obviously you are making up stories, telling lies just to cover up your false information.
MaxInDHouse:
You're not only deceiving yourself, you're also stupid!

You never asked how JWs pay our TITHES you just jump into conclusion thinking it's the way your stupid churches are extorting money from you, shey?

Well all baptized JWs are paying our TITHES directly to Christ and it's not monetary.

But since you don't want to learn, i will not teach you, continue worshiping your idols and demons claiming you're worshiping God's son! wink
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:47pm On Dec 18, 2022
I do realize Janosky you do have trouble understanding and translating the scriptures, but that's alright, I am here to help find the right answers for you! What are enemies for?
Janosky:
Pointless GIBBERISH everywhere grin
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:42pm On Dec 18, 2022
Yes, Jesus Christ is my foundation, Jesus Christ as my Covenant, Jesus Christ is head of man, Jesus Christ is my Church-it's Jesus Christ that saved me. It's Jesus Christ who died for me-it's Jesus Christ I worship, I pray in Jesus Name.
I do realize Janosky you do have a little trouble understanding the scriptures, but it's ok, I am more then happy to find the scriptures for you!
What are enemies for?
{John 14:8-21} Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”
Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time?
Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father.
How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me?
The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me;
or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.
Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.
Janosky:
Is Christ the foundation of your 3 deities?
3 deities worshipper deceiving himself. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab:
You must have been up all night writing all this, so Jesus Christ is not kingdom hall's foundation? I had noticed you never mentioned His name as the foundation, you don't pay tithes, Max pays tithes, so why is that? Is Max equal to you? or is tithing only for the elders?
Your organisation actually sounds like the Catholic's, hello Brother, good morning Sister.
Question: if an elder decides to sexually assault another, are they both addressed as Sister-Brother? {Does Incest come to mind?}
Aemmyjah:
KINGDOM HALL

It is called kingdom Hall
Not church

It is called Meeting
Not Church Program

They are called Elders
Not pastor, Rev, Bishop, Daddy and Mummy GO, Woli

We are called Publishers
Not Church Members

We are address as brother and sister
Not Dr, Pastor, Rev, Bishop or Engr, Pastor Dr (PhD), Prof

No one is special than the other
No special seats

No collections at our meetings

Seats are free
All seat meant for everyone

We give voluntarily from our hearts and not gambling by sowing seed to make pastor fat or pay tithes as if we're under the mosiac law. Tithe was paid once a year then, today pastor is collecting it each week along with 5 or 6 other offering and project and sowing seeds and contribution

No showy display of one's means of living in the kingdom Hall �

We give out what we have freely

Everyone is equal (no clergy-laity class)

We pray at the Beginning
And the end of the Meeting

We also Sing

We don't celebrate birthdays, Christmas,easter or any other pagan festival masquerading as Christian rather we, commemorate Jesus death as he commanded and his disciples observed

We don't discriminate, we value all, irrespective of tribe, color,race, nationality
Jw worldwide�♥️

Priority
No different between rich and poor
Rather, we are all rich in spiritual word

WE ARE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES


Your turn, mention your own let the whole world read and hear. Note that I mention the name of my place of worship as well as my religion though I'm a Christian. Mention yours or run to meet your pastor of your own Church to spoonfeed you with spiritual wormwood

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