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Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by brocab: 5:39pm On Dec 27, 2022*

NNTR:
There wasnt any need to type: 'Jesus didn't only tell stories,

So who made you boss; so you are upset because I wrote Jesus didn't only tell stories, He told the truth-I don't know how you understand the scriptures, but the way I understand them-I don't just see story telling, my understanding of the Word of God is much deeper.
I look at it-Spirituality,it's not just a book to me, it's more greater then that, the knowledge and the wisdom is far above, our simple minds can't even get to the surface of it..
I realize you are religious, I won't hold that against you..It's just a ask: are you in any Church, what do you call yourself..

NNTR:
Killing me. I die almost every second.

There wasnt any need to type: 'Jesus didn't only tell stories,' because no one claimed, the, Jesus only told stories. He told stories, is what I typed, but you had a problem with that, and wouldnt let go, simply because you can not and you're incapable not to admit that, yes, Jesus told stories.

What you wrote is bs. You're constipated from being full of bs. Its bs that makes one types that anybody thinks they are above everybody else

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by brocab: 5:06pm On Dec 27, 2022*

NNTR:
I am known not to do arguments.

You are the opposite to the above message, "Lair, you can't help yourself.

NNTR:
You maybe crayon, but I am a highlighter. You may color, but I make BRIGHTER

Look at this rubbish: O Please.
The Word of God is plenty to share-I know it's killing you when I wrote; Jesus didn't only tell stories, he told the truth, maybe you will get over yourself-and try to understand-what I wrote wasn't against Word-nor was it used to offend anybody who thinks they are above everybody else.
And Mary did have a little lamb, Jesus is know to be the Lamb of God, and Mary was Jesus's earthly Mother, the blind leading the blind so instead of mocking-open your eye's.

NNTR:
The smaller the mind, the greater the conceit
Never have pity of self-conceited posters like here above me

Stop tripping. You owe it to yourself, to first learn how to tie your shoes before thinking you have anything worthy inside you to share

You maybe crayon, but I am a highlighter. You may color, but I make BRIGHTER

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 4:09pm On Dec 27, 2022*

But had you noticed-God the Father did not call the disciples God-like He did Jesus. I believe, it's because Jesus was without sin, when in fact we are sinners.
This is what the bible say's: {1 John 5:7} For there are three who bear witness in Heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are "One.
Now I ask you; do you believe it? when Jesus says: I am in the Father and the Father is in Me, the works I do, are the works from My Father,
The word Trinity is not actually written in the bible-but trinity is used as the meaning to the three becoming One, One soul, One mind and One heart working together in unity.
It's like, in most bible's the name Jehovah is not mentioned, God the Father is" Does that mean because His name is not written in all bibles, then obviously the name Jehovah is un-scriptural, Jehovah is used by the Watchtower 'so they can recognize a name that was given to God, so does it mean it's trash as well?
Tell me, how can you call yourself a JW when in fact you don't believe you are one in body with the Watchtower preaching there doctrine. I would call that, one spirit in unity-equal with each other, preaching the same message.
Now we know No has seen God at any time: because God is Spirit-so how did Jesus do His work without His Father working in unity with Him,
I tell you how? The Father's Spirit is and always is, in Jesus, ''One body and One Spirit are One

cornelboy:
Lol. Jesus also prayed that his disciples be in his father just as he's in the father.
John 17. At the verse 3, Jesus confessed that the Father is the one true God. I think you should go and argue with Jesus not me.

Trinity is trash and unscriptural no matter how much you try to defend it.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by brocab: 11:39pm On Dec 26, 2022

You aren't worth writing too, you aren't here to learn about the Word of God you are here looking for an argument against it..

NNTR:
I read the sewer, you wrote that's worth nothing

You're shameless for telling barefaced lies that the 'Mary had a little lamb' nursery rhyme, has 'Mary did have a little Lamb, Named Jesus' in it

You cant diminish the fact that, Jesus told stories, so put up and shut the f up, if you cant:
1. Quote here verbatim, where or when, I ever said that Jesus or God didn't only tell stories.
2. Or quote here verbatim also, where you've found me type ever that He never told the truth
3. Did Jesus or God tell stories or not?
If yes that Jesus or God told stories, then whats your ferking problem then with the appended personal text?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:32pm On Dec 26, 2022

Either way: Courz does study to pick up his knowledge concerning the Watchtower, there's nothing that stays hidden..
Someone always knows something about someone committing a crime. "News travels fast especially global news, the net is full of stories about somebody-or something.
I myself have experience close encounters dealing with JW's and other religious organisations, who's involved in Witchcraft.
Some Christians believe in that theory once born again always born again, and their fruit is they live immoral life styles, do what they please without repentance, and still claiming they are good and faithful servants of God.
Don't take it to heart Max, what Courz said: it's quite interesting: having this sort of knowledge in mind: I now have a better insight after reading it on page written by Courz.
Max you should be taken note: this sort of stuff doesn't just happen in the Watchtower-this sort of stuff happens everywhere in Churches.
This has been a problem back in the Old Testament, {Ezekiel 8:1-18} the Levite Priesthood were worshiping the Sun god and other demonic spirits, while in God's temple.
If it happened back then, and nothing changes concerning demonic activity, just like the Old Testament explains it, "and if nothing changes, then obviously we know them by their fruit. "For rebellion is like the sin of divination, and arrogance like the evil of idolatry. Witchcraft operating in the body, so by looking at today's Church" then it's not surprising to hear and see sorcery is still active.

MaxInDHouse:
You're an atheist who doesn't have any religion and Courz always run up and down this forum without preaching any religion except maligning just one "Jehovah's Witnesses" both of you have the same interest and to couple it you opened a thread only for Courz to continue dropping post upon post yet you're saying it's not the same person.
Ọmọ till eternity i will continue to expose you on this forum, if Courz begin preaching about his own religion i may have a change of thought until then keep deceiving yourself Mr oteneaaron (Courz)

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:07pm On Dec 26, 2022

you are denying everything concerning, I am in the Father and the Father is in Me. you refuse to even acknowledge it exist..

cornelboy:
What did I deny?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 12:29pm On Dec 26, 2022

I don't think it's the cleansing of people, Max is talking about-Max prefers the cleansing to a religious building, "Kingdom hall. that's full of demonic activity full of dirty deeds?.

Courz:
If Jesus corrected you JWs, Why is Watchtower running International Bible Students Association (IBSA) that celebrate Christmas and Birthdays and are Freemasons?

You claim you are still being refined or cleansed to this day. How come the Cleansing isn't efficient enough to remove Adultery, Fornication/Promiscuity, Suicides, Murders, Child Sexual Abuse, Pedophilia, Homosexuality, Theft, Fraud, Racism, Tribalism, etc from amongst you JWs?

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by brocab: 12:12pm On Dec 26, 2022*

I said in the beginning--Jesus or God didn't only tell stories, He told the truth, and I repeated it twice. Obviously you aren't reading anything I had written down..
JW's are no different, they don't have that knowledge either, they just jump into conclusion.."Typical know it all's.
When reading through the scripture's Jesus spoke parables to unbelievers-just as the scriptures had pointed it out-the disciples weren't fully understood at that time, Jesus made a point of it saying the Kingdom of God was given to the disciples, but to them, seeing you may not see, and hearing you may not hear.
Obviously you aren't understanding meaning. "Is Jesus speaking parables stories to you, just so you can understand? "All is Jesus explaining the meaning's to each parable, just like He did with the apostles.
So you found your favored Book, well done you good and faithful servant..

NNTR:
Thank you for confirming that Jesus told stories

Parable is a simple story told to communicate a moral or spiritual lesson, just as told by Jesus in the Gospels

Dont make this about me. Jesus told stories, and that a fact, truth and reality, already firmly established by you with quoting Matthew 13:10-13

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBdNndsM1Nw

Mary had a little lamb,
Little lamb, little lamb.
Mary had a little lamb
Its fleece was white as snow.

And everywhere that Mary went,
Mary went, Mary went,
Everywhere that Mary went
The lamb was sure to go.

It followed her to school one day,
School one day, school one day.
It followed her to school one day
Which was against the rules.

It made the children laugh and play,
Laugh and play, laugh and play.
It made the children laugh and play,
To see a lamb at school.

"Why does the lamb love Mary so?
Mary so, Mary so?
Why does the lamb love Mary so?"
The eager children smile.

"Why, Mary loves the lamb, you know,
Lamb, you know, lamb, you know,
Mary loves the lamb, you know,"
The teacher did reply

The famous 'Mary had a little lamb' nursery rhyme, DOES NOT HAVE 'Mary did have a little Lamb, Named Jesus' in it

Don't you know the difference between a simple traditional song or poem for children and a parable (i.e. a simple story told to teach a moral or spiritual lesson, just as told by Jesus in the Gospels)

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by brocab: 6:36am On Dec 26, 2022

Jesus spoke the truth-where in fact you deny. Parables to the non believers are stories, but to the believers He spoke about the Kingdom of God. .
{Matthew 13:10-13} The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”
He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them.
Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them.
This is why I speak to them in parables:
“Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand.
So keep your stories, because that's all they are to you. Go and read Mary had a little lamb, this is True Mary did have a little Lamb, Named Jesus..

NNTR:
Tear and rip out Matthew 13:34-35 from your bible

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 6:18am On Dec 26, 2022

"Yes" you have complained by denying the Word of God..

cornelboy:
Have I ever complained that I have any troubles haha?

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 6:13am On Dec 26, 2022

MaxInDHouse:
if they're already practicing true religion then what is Jesus CLEANSING in their religion?

Jesus is cleansing His people: those who are seeking the kingdom of God and His righteousness. {Matthew 6:33}
Obviously this is your way of cleansing: {Matthew 21:12-13} And Jesus entered the temple and drove out all who sold and bought in the temple, and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons. He said to them, “It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer,’ but you make it a den of robbers.
So is this what you are preferring too-Jesus cleansing the Watchtower religious building that's full of dirty deeds?
Are we not the body, the Church that is being cleans within: daily through our sins, when we turn to Jesus for repentance and forgiveness?

MaxInDHouse:
Do you know why they all keep singing my name all over as if i'm the only JW on this forum?

So now you go into the pity mode: we know you would like to be the main attraction, you do come up with unbelievable stories!
But we aren't here playing games with you Max: the Lord does send people who are willing to step out of their comfort zone and spread the gospel, even to those like you 'who are trying to turn the Word of God into a mockery..

MaxInDHouse:
Do you know why they all keep singing my name all over as if i'm the only JW on this forum?
Well it's because i always allow them wallow in their ignorance and pride but whenever they make any slanderous attempt to thwart facts i will directly quote and use God's word to set matters straight! 2Timothy 3:16

For instance i hate arguing with Apostates {Titus 3:9} but when they raise false allegation that's when i will come in:

Courz said JWs claimed Jesus chose their group in 1914/1919 (because they're the only true religion)
This is a LIE that needed to be exposed so i quoted him directly and asked him to quote any publication of JWs where this could be found only for him to quote where the organization said Jesus chose the group out of all others (and began cleansing/correcting them) please if they're already practicing true religion then what is Jesus CLEANSING in their religion?

This is what poked their bubble of LIE so after poking their lies i retreat for them to continue their wailing!

Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by brocab: 11:28pm On Dec 25, 2022

I said: God didn't just tell stories, He told the truth...
Mary had a little lamb and Jack and Jill went up the hill, is a good bed time story for you..

NNTR:
You haven't got the slightest idea that you're barking up the wrong tree

I am known not to do arguments.
Its you, who at the start had a problem with my remark that Jesus is God who told stories

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:11pm On Dec 25, 2022

So you improve of the finishing touch..
If the JW's follow Jesus teaching's then why are you having trouble understanding the scriptures-why isn't the Holy Spirit teaching you-so you could have somewhat understanding how the Spirit of God works in the body of Christ?

cornelboy:
Do you want me to break my promise to max and be a liar by continuosly arguing with you? Why the super story?

Only JWs follow Jesus teachings to the book. I don't understand what you're spouting.

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:06pm On Dec 25, 2022

Well yeah: most Kingdom hall-or lets say Church preachers outside the Watchtower are Freemasons: 33 degree Masons.
Charles Russell, Joseph Smith, Ellen White, Kenneth Copeland, Creffo Dollar, and many others, may all have different cultists beliefs, but still hold their seats, still Masons for life-and still preaching twisted doctrines.
Masons believe, what JW's believe-Jesus is Michael the Archangel, Lucifer's brother, the Mormons, Seven day Adventist believe this un-scriptural belief too.
Obviously this literature come from somewhere, So where did it come from?
The only reference I found in the bible: that even comes close, is this: {2 Corinthians 11:13-15} For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness.

Janosky:

You mean your Christendom is freemason too

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:32pm On Dec 25, 2022

It's quiet common to be physically minded, it's part of the human race, But you aren't spirituality minded.
You are learning Watchtower literature about some argumentative motives, and as many of us outsiders know the Watchtower is involved in Witchcraft!
I believe this is the only connection the Watchtower has with the realm of the spirits, so maybe you can ask your elders, to direct you in the right direction, learn how their demonic spirit realm works!
Obviously you aren't interested in the Word of God-and everything we have laid on page, you have refused to acknowledge any understanding that concerns how God's Spirit works in the body..
And if you believe every word from the Watchtower-then obviously you aren't open minded: open minded people search to find.
And because you haven't fully given yourself over to the Watchtower, there's still hope for you, and I pray you will come to repentance, ask the Lord for your forgiveness, and be saved in Christ.
I pray you will have enough sense, to study scriptures, learn the Word of God ask Jesus into your life, before you decide which Covenant you prefer to be under..

cornelboy:
I'm physically minded thanks for your time

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 5:54pm On Dec 25, 2022

I believe this page can do with a make over, if we knew the JW's had any idea-about the scripture's, yeah we may have somewhat good Godly conversation, But they aren't happening.
Obviously we are punching bags, verbally we are here putting up with the lies and abuse, the JW's have kept enstored for us.

MaxInDHouse:
One thing i love about this forum and this particular thread is that the OP has opted out of Nairaland and Nairaland will keep this our discussion for long so that honest hearted and sincere individuals can read through our discussion and see for themselves if Watchtower hid anything from you guys!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 5:35pm On Dec 25, 2022

cornelboy:
Alright sir. I won't waste my time arguing with him.

These were your dying word's you gave Max; so does this mean you lie against your promise?
Does this mean you have caught the JW fever-another lair is born into kingdom hall.
No one is expecting you to understand scripture's, it's to difficult for you-you aren't spirituality minded, and there's good reason for that-you refuse to become a born again believer, Just like the Lord said: we must do..
You can't seem to get pass your fleshly mind. So of course {John 14} Is to far advanced for you..
Matter of fact-it's quite difficult trying to teach people anything concerning the spirit, especially when someone can only see it through flesh and blood..

cornelboy:
I can't stop laughing at the highlighted. You have poor reasoning haha.

Of course Jesus is like his father. The Bible says that in different verses that Jesus is the express image of the Father. He has Jehovah's qualities.

Nevertheless, he's still God's servant working for God in perfect unity. He will hand over everything to God and God will be ruler over him and everything else.

The apostles were one with God and Jesus. They were filled with God's holy spirit just has Jesus was filled with holy spirit. It was the same spirit. Since Jesus prayed that they should become one with him and his father, their sin or imperfect nature doesn't matter.

The watchtower publications are based on the word of God. Thanks to the JWs for taking their time to expose man-made doctrines from the Roman catholics.

Of course as real Christians we strive to live a holy life but we are imperfect and can fall into sin anytime.
And God is ever willing to forgive our sins. 1 John 1:8,9.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by brocab: 11:23am On Dec 25, 2022

So you haven't got the slightest idea?
Then what is the point, you writing when you haven't the slightest idea 'where you are going with your little childish argument?
Some Mothers do have them...

NNTR:
So you're just knowing this. Hmm?

Nothing to explain, except I wanted to write the verse down, so I did write the verse down

Ive no idea what you on about here now, however, I do in their entirety among other scripture, believe Romans 10:9, Philippians 2:5-15 and Matthew 22:37–40 (i.e. Deuteronomy 6:4-5)

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 11:18am On Dec 25, 2022

Max will always turn people away from the truth, only because Max is running scared, His a runner, no back bone left in him.
Max tells people he is with the CIA-and If anybody get's in his way, he threatens them.
Most people will see stories like these very childish, but if you aren't ready to learn the scriptures it's your choice. I never seen them like arguments, I see them always as a learning.

cornelboy:
Alright sir. I won't waste my time arguing with him.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 10:56am On Dec 25, 2022

I believe you do know Watchtower literature, but not the Word of God-it confuses you.

cornelboy:
The disciples also had the same spirit. Jesus even prayed that they become one with him and his father.

You have already written it down, but you aren't looking at it in a Spiritual term-you only see what you are taught in the flesh.
{1 Peter 2:22} Jesus committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth.
You must understand the disciples were sinner's, Jesus had No sin.
{1 John 3:9} No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.
So now we have the Father and the Son both without sin, so why shouldn't I believe Jesus is just like His Father.Having One Spirit working together.
{John 14:11,20} So when Jesus said: I am in the Father and the Father in Me. Jesus was preferring to equal terms with the Father. Both without Sin.
God said: {Hebrews 1:8-10} “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions, then believe they are Equally One Both without Sin...
{Romans 3:10-12,Psalm 14:1-3,Psalm 53:1-3} There is no one righteous, not even one, there is no one who does good,
not even one.
The Lord was talking to sinful men 'such as the disciples born into sin. So having the Spirit of God-doesn't make us 'sinners the Father or god's, but it brings us into unity with the Father and the Son Jesus and the Holy Spirit. ''Jesus said: one must be born again before he can enter into the Kingdom of God: baptizing them with the Holy Spirit, and through His Word, we become one in Christ.

cornelboy:
I don't care what you think.
I understand the scriptures perfectly.
Thanks to the JWs.

The disciples also had the same spirit. Jesus even prayed that they become one with him and his father.

That doesn't make Jesus and his disciples equal to God. The trinity is trash and merely man-made doctrines.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 6:11am On Dec 25, 2022

Obviously you still don't understand the Spirit: God's Spirit was the same Spirit in Jesus: which makes them equal of one Mind. one soul and one heart, working together.
Come back to me, when you decide to be a Born again Spirit filled Christian, without Spiritual knowledge, "Blind as you are, blind you will always be...
And if you think JW knowledge is more greater then the Word of God-then you are a waste of space. Good luck..

cornelboy:
John 17:20-23
[20]“I am praying not only for these disciples but also for all who will ever believe in me through their message.
[21]I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one—as you are in me, Father, and I am in you. And may they be in us so that the world will believe you sent me.
[22]“I have given them the glory you gave me, so they may be one as we are one.
[23]I am in them and you are in me. May they experience such perfect unity that the world will know that you sent me and that you love them as much as you love me.

Those are Jesus' prayers. Jesus clearly explained what being one with the Father his. Being one with the father is not the same as being equal with him but being in perfect unity with him.
No one is equal to Jehovah God.
Man is the head of the wife, Christ is the head of man and God is the head of Christ. 1 Corinthians 11:3

Jesus has always been God's servant, doing many missions for God obediently. Of course Jesus is a God but the same God as his father. 1 Corinthians 8:5&6.

In fact, Jesus have a God but God doesn't have a God. John 20:17, Revelation 1:6.

Hebrew 1:9 NIV
You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy." [6]

Trinity is trash and completely manmade doctrines. Thanks to the JWs for making me understand the scriptures and have to full picture of the Bible.
I don't care if you you agree with me or not.

I have no intentions of teaching you because you're clearly here to slander the JWs together with your comrades.
And I see you as an inferior when it comes to understanding and interpretation of the Bible.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by brocab: 9:59pm On Dec 24, 2022

Maybe if you read: {Hebrews 1:8-10} you may actually find it was Jehovah God who said: His Son Jesus is God, so whom am I to argue against God Himself.
He is the Almighty God: God gave His Spirit to the apostles to write down the scriptures: The very same Word of God I read daily, reading it from the King James bible.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by brocab: 9:48pm On Dec 24, 2022

Scripture show's it's written, then obviously we both BELIEVE it's the truth, so now explain what made you write this verse down, and how does it prove your point! "Is it against my belief's, or is it against yours?

NNTR:
Exactly what it says on the tin (i.e. John 14:6 is self explanatory)

Now, your turn to respond to the four easy, simple, innocent, harmless questions

1. Have you any misconception about John 14:6
2. Is Jesus God or not God?
3. Is Jesus God, who told stories or Jesus, is not God and did not tell stories?
4. Through who was the plan of salvation, executed and perfected?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:17pm On Dec 24, 2022

The Ku Klux Klan and Freemasonry in America around 1920s ''back then it wasn't a crime accepting the Klan, but it's always been a crime against the black man.
Black Skin, Negros and Mixed Races
Despite the official end of slavery in America in 1865, the 1800's were a time of significant prejudice and inequality against African Americans. It was during this time that religions such as the Watch Tower Society and Mormons were formed. This influenced early views and teachings regarding black people and mixed races.
For example, it was explained in a 1904 Watchtower that in the New System the skin of black people could turn white.
Has it ever changed: Black's believing they will become white after death' when they go to Watchtower kingdom..
Viewing the quotes chronologically reveals that in more recent decades the Watchtower promotes racial equality. Despite this, in was not until 1999 that the first black Governing Body member,
Samuel Herd, was appointed. As of 2021, Herd was still the only black Governing Body member and there has been no Asian represenation.
By the looks of this: it's obvious Blacks will never be seen as human beings. ''Not even in the Watchtower, blacks will never be accepted respectfully..

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Fourth Commandment: The Sabbath. by brocab: 8:47pm On Dec 24, 2022

{John 14:6} Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
"Now explain, how this scripture sit's with you?

NNTR:
Doesnt diminish the fact and truth that Jesus is God and told stories

John 14:6
Jesus said to him,
“I am the [only] Way [to God]
and the [real] Truth and the [real] Life;
no one comes to the Father but through Me.

His sheep hear His voice, and He knows them, and they follow Him

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 1:20pm On Dec 24, 2022*

I am seen on other treads, always protecting the Word of God-plus we are not against one another-we stand up against those like the JW's who make the Word of God sound like a mockery.
You have shared {John 17:22} I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one—
Every time we have shared scripture with the JW's about the Father is in Me, as I am in the Father; the JW's refuse to acknowledge it ever existed "Now Max is claiming he is One with God.

MaxInDHouse:
It's all of them not just one!

Check their comments on other threads where the topic has nothing to do with JWs that's when you will know that they're all against one another {Luke 11:23} the only thing they want to do as one shamelessly is to criticize JWs apart from that there's no agreement among them.
Why? Because each one is arrogantly seeking his own glory so there's no way they can agree to worship as one family just as Jesus foretold about Jehovah's Witnesses {John 17:22} most of them will not comment at all on threads that has nothing to do with JWs because if they do it will become obvious that they are enemies even to their fellow critics who joined them in speaking against JWs!

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 1:02pm On Dec 24, 2022

I see only Christians protecting the Word of God,. "I don't see JW's..

MaxInDHouse:
Some of them are even confused to the point of arguing that Jesus never existed at all yet it's JWs they also target out of all religions claiming "CHRISTIANS"
Is that not strange?

https://www.nairaland.com/7234738/jehovahs-witnesses-abuse-behind-name
https://www.nairaland.com/7122544/breaking-news-norway-no-longer
https://www.nairaland.com/7000070/jehovahs-witnesses-tied-freemasons
https://www.nairaland.com/6994962/witnesses-jehovah-documentary
https://www.nairaland.com/6944208/jehovahs-witnesses-linked-united-nations

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 12:57pm On Dec 24, 2022

it's obvious, I only see the Watchtower who disbelieves in the Word of God.

MaxInDHouse:
Please ask them who released them from the fear of HellFire?

Christianity Etc › Re: Every Word of God is Law and Commandment! by brocab: 1:31am On Dec 24, 2022

When is a good time to begin stoning your children-after disobeying their parents. This law was also written in the bible, but does anybody obey all old Testament Laws?
Let's say: Jesus made another Covenant with us-what then, does it mean we are to follow the old Covenant God had with Israel?
{Hebrews 8:7-11} For if that first covenant had been faultless, no one would have looked for a second one.
But showing its fault, God says to them, “Look, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will complete a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.
“It will not be like the covenant that I made with their fathers, on the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not continue in my covenant and I had no regard for them, says the Lord.
“For this is the covenant that I will establish with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and I will inscribe them on their hearts. And I will be their God and they will be my people.
“And there will be no need at all for each one to teach his countryman or each one to teach his brother saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ since they will all know me, from the least to the greatest.
Are we Gentiles 'and not Jews-not even in today's Israel they obey all Old Testament Laws.

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 12:37am On Dec 24, 2022*

{Exodus 7:1} Then the Lord said to Moses, “See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet
Obviously Moses is not called God-but made like God to Pharaoh.
{Hebrews 1:8-10} But Jehovah said: to His Son Jesus "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You.
If you were Holy Spirit filled-you would agree 'God is One with Jesus..
If I was to see this in a man's type view, this is somewhat supernatural, how can a man 'live in another man? But then how do babies live in Mothers! With God nothing is impossible.
So I wouldn't be wrong, if I said: The Father and The Son are "One" having the same Spirit.
When Jesus said: { John 14:11,20 } Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me? The words I say to you, I do not speak on My own. Instead, it is the Father dwelling in Me.
So it's obvious the Spirit of God is the same Spirit in Jesus, "Equally One" working together..
Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me— or at least believe on account of the works themselves.
In a little while the world will see Me no more, but you will see Me. Because I live, you also will live.
On that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you are in Me, and I am in you.
Whoever has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me. The one who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and reveal Myself to him.”…

cornelboy:
You'd always prove to be a dummy if you keep trying to argue the Bible with the JWs. These people gave accurate knowledge and interpretation of the scriptures.

DUM is this, it's someone who honestly believe the JW's know all the answer's ''More then the Word of God?

cornelboy:
Are you very familiar with the teachings on trinity?

For example, phrases like "god the son, "god the holy spirit" is commonly used in Christendom whereas only "God the father" was mentioned in the Bible.
At John 14:28, Jesus explained that the Father is greater than him. Paul, an apostle filled with the holy spirit also confirmed it at 1 Corinthians 11.
Whereas Trinitarians says both the Father and son are equal, co equal. How?

Of course I know that Jehovah God himself called Jesus God, he also called Moses God, Exodus 7:1, even Jesus called Satan a God but who's the only true God, the almighty?
Jesus at John 17:3 and Paul at 1 Corinthians 8:5&6 both explained that God, the Father is the only true God.

Everything Jesus have now was given to him by God. His name, his power, the kingdom and glory. God made appointed Jesus as the king of the kingdom but Jesus will hand over everything over to God in the future and Jesus will be submitted under him. 1 Corinthians 15:24-28, Daniel 2:44.
Is Jesus equal to his father, are they co powerful or co anything?

You'd always prove to be a dummy if you keep trying to argue the Bible with the JWs. These people gave accurate knowledge and interpretation of the scriptures.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 3:37pm On Dec 23, 2022

I believe what the Word of God say's.. I also believe in: {Hebrews 1:8-10} it's clear about the scriptures, it's obviously telling me: Jehovah God: is claiming His Own Son Jesus is God-if this is the case-then I must believe: in God's Word,
''Now we all know the Watchtower would agree, since they prefer to use the King James bible, claiming it is the Word of God.
"So who are "WE" to disagree or argue against Jehovah God Himself, when in fact you claim Jehovah God; is in fact the God you serve..
This is what Jehovah God say's to His Son
“Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
And: “You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, "And the heavens are the work of Your hands.
Of course I am not expecting you to believe anything what the Word of God is actually saying, "You are a JW, and nothing concerning Jesus, has anything to do with the Watchtower..

cornelboy:
Lol. You believe in hell fire and the holy trinity too?

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:57am On Dec 23, 2022*

I was watching a video just recently, it was between a JW woman and a born again man, the man asked the woman, if he didn't know God, and he had at least 3 minutes left of his life before dying, what would be the message she would give Him, to save him from going to Hell-a place without God's presents..
Her answer was, she doesn't believe Hell existed: and she didn't know there was an authority to bring someone to Christ; even at a time of death.
She gave no salvation; never talked about repentance-nor forgiveness, no-prayer, she gave no information about Jesus-Her answer was-after he dies" it's up to Jehovah to decide weather Jehovah wanted him or not.
This is not the gospel: this is the other gospel Paul warned us about, to stay away from.
Then I must ask this question: who and what authority do the members come under' are they saved in Christ-or saved under Jehovah?
It is an interesting question: So what make's these JW's actually believe they are following the Lord?...

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