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Ribadu is far better than elliot ness. dont mind all u see in d untouchables movie , ohh!!! there were so many allegations against the person of elliot ness that really makes one wonder where ppl get dat impression dat the man was so "superish"

we shd be careful when comparing ourselves to other ppl , always check dere antecedents

Bros dis is all talk no action by her antecedents which she has failed to debunk the facts thrust in her face,she has a history of covering up/protecting corrupt public officers e.g. shortee for akume, business partner to d sarakis.

how can she possibly want ppl to believe that if there r serious crimes involving such ppl earlier mentioned that she would throw d full weight of her office in prosecuting them?

as i said, this is just propaganda and if i where her i wld act more and talk less, she doesnt have d luxury of craving for public commendation (thats just wat d txt above is all abt)

And to think dat it was d judge that started trying to talk with oyinlolas lawyer rather than d opposite shows the level of moral decay pervading our judiciary,

I believe the njc must thoroughly investigate and apportion blame to the guilty a.s.a.p because if these allegations are true, there is no way the issue of bias can be waved aside in there final judgement next week

I really believe the minister shd face more telling issues that are creeping back into abuja rather than "public smoking" , a few months back there was a lot of talk frm him abt banning alcohol intake in "public places" now its smoking,

there are urgent social/infrastructural lapses that are rearing there ugly heads in abj e.g. the litter,the illegal markets,e.t.c.

let him tackle these issues headlong rather dan chasing shadows,

the most honourable thing has been done by him, recusing himself frm d petty brouhaha has saved the guy a lot a sleepless nights over an issue that was nt of his making,


up you gambari

naijaking1:
Very sad. While a lot of people condenm this group and their position, the truth is they speak the 'unwritten feeling and attitude of many Nigerians'

Not just Yorubas, but there are also Igbos, Hausas, etc who would rather be tribalistic than objective regarding actions of their own tribespeople. Afteral, corruption means stealing from the central (no man's land) government and bringing it "home"

Omo which kain yarn u just dey talk so? point of correction "many" nigerians do nt tow dis line this group is postulating on d contrary many nigerians would care less where personalities com frm but wld like to see a personality who knws his onions and does his job judiciously,

whipping up ethn ic sentiments to cover up the share indecent,unscrupulous natue of pulic officials is to say the least stupid,

it is far too early to compare yar'adua with anybody, give d man time to do wat he plans to do just because he runs a govt in his own style of "no drama" unlike obj who was domineering and outspoken doesnt mean he has failed,

all d issues ppl tend to put at his door step have been dere even while obj,abacha where in power so it may take time to tackle dem,

lets be patient

Na wah, ohh!!! so so lamentation for this thread, sha!!!!

emmydee:
@ifyalways

Dont be deceived, it will NEVER better o.
ok tell me, do you believe the Niger Delta [b]brouhaha [/b]will ever end?

definitely it will end and Nigeria will definitely get better,

ol'boy check ur facts, news report says d guy aint dead

molulu:
D people Who are saying that Nigeria without oil is nothing and those saying that Nigeria-Oil=Somalia or Rwanda are invariably saying they as individuals are can be seen as irrelevant because they invariably implied that it is the oil that controls our destiny and not us. This is the kind of attitude that has made people to abadon their creative abilities in pursuit of something constitutes just a part of Nigeria's wealth. If we use our brains and minds as Nigerians then oil resources will only form part and not the entirety of who we are. In a world where technological, medical and creative innovations are the best-sellers, I cannot believe that some people are saying that Nigeria without oil is nothing( How sad and pathetic!). It is this kind of reasoning that has made Nigeria not even strive towards something as basic as Food Security. May I ask what is wrong with Nigeria exploring her human and non-oil resources!
Does Japan have oil?
Does Israel have Oil?
Did China's advancement come from oil resources/
Based the importance that has been placed on oil and natural resources by some narrow-minded fellows, one would have expected that countries like Sweden, Switzerland, Germany, e.t.c would be at the bottom of the list in the roll call of wealthy nations

i wish dey cld all read ur post and wake up, HOW I WISH!!!!

Sky Blue:
Ok @buchio i have a question for you. If the country woke up tomorrow to find out that there is no oil at all and it all just disappeared, what do you think will happen? There are hardly any working refineries, no solid industries, no power to supplement or aid any viable sector like the service industry, etc, a militancy crisis in the south, please do tell me honestly, what would happen in the country if such occured tomorrow? Also don't forget about the corruption issue and mismanagement. So what is going to happen? The president will snap his fingers and BAM!!! everything is going to be ok? The steel mill and refineries are going to magically start working? Money which is normally generated from oil that is not there will magically appear to fund development needed? What exactly, please do tell.

it is not unpatriotic or wicked to be honest and say what one feels or expose what conclusions one draws from an analysis. It is just being sicere. Does it mean i don't see potential in Nigeria? Of course not. I love Nigeria as well and i hope @hilli does as well, but let us not lie to ourselves because that in itself is folly considering what is at stake. If things aren't the way they should be, then we need to work together to make it the way we aspire it to be. But at current, if oil was to go tomorrow, will everything be ok?

Bros leave matter , i dont hav issues with summarising d ills and negatives, if dat gives u comfort , by all means dwell on it.moi is saying dat d time for action is now and less on buck passing or doomsday prophesies.

most of d posts on dis thread go or tag along d guys summation which as a ppl shd nt be so, we need ideas and action rather dan wat he is talking

@skyblue

i dont have issues with d guy i just was very plain abt wat ppl shd concentrate on rather dan talking , d guy talked abt war,talked also abt desolation and i feel dat is all bull, i must nt paint a rosy pix just to make his theory a little "nice"

all i am saying is dat "bad as e bad" we have wat it takes to superced wat oil has ever given us

and how will seeing d situation for wat it is lead to positive change? why not see d future for wat it can be if we harness our various resources?

molulu:
Nigeria and nigerians without oil, would have better use of their most important resources;their mind & brains, We would be among one of the industrialized nations of the world, we produce food in excess, we would invent various things and nobody,no country would be able to brush us aside on the world stage because the human resource would be working at its full potential. For those who feel that Nigeria would be nothing without oil, may i asked how it is possible that a country like Japan who cannot boast of any natural resource is more advanced than oil-rich countries even those where such resources are well managed to benefit the citizens like Saudi Arabia, You.A.E and others.
Oil has not not benefitted Nigeria because it has diverted our attention from our most powerful resource, that one that has taken all great countries and civilization to their peaks; the intellectual resource!!

dont miond all dese "DOOMSDAY PROPHETS" how are dey demselves adding value rather dan pointing out lapses? we have d best minds money cant even afford to buy,we are rich in gazzilion natural resources and d only tin ppl see or talk abt is oil,

we will survive very well after oil and all dese cynics will chew cord on all dere prophesies in Jesus name, Amen

hilli666:
Nigeria witout oil is nothing. A desolute country, abandoned by the international commitee, and left to fend for itself. Nigeria without oil, is a humanitarian crises waiting to happen, as millions will die due to poverty.

what utter rubbish, what desolation are u talking abt? when d groundnut pyramids disappeared was dere desolation? when d palm oil plantations dessipated was dere anarchy? stop dis dooms day mongering it really is pathetic

hilli666:
Ethnic factions will take up arms against one another. Religious fanatics, in a frantic and desperated bid to secure what ever power is left, will use propaganda to galvanise the will of the people to arms.

so based on ur own assessment u are ready to take up arms when d oil finishes, na today!!!!!!

look rather dan postulating negative tuissues frm ur imagination why not profer solutions on d way forward? all across dis thread are doomsday prophets making wild assumptions on apocalypse but none of dem, NONE, has brought out a cogent,reasonable and positive way forward,

yes we knw dat oil will finish one day and yes we knw dat we hav corrupt ppl(dat na old tory) but are u saying dat we cant harness d opportunities inherent in other human and natural resources just because u see oil as d only uniting factor in nigeria?

by d way dont u knw dat as a person , u , urself have an obligation to add value to ur country rather dan passing buck to every other person whether govt or individuals, WHAT ARE U DOING OR HAVE U DONE TO ENSURE A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR THIS NATION?

Don1DeMaco:
Nigeria without oil

very funny topic, what of Nigeria without its people, or Nigeria without the fertile land or Nigeria without other natural resources

Its like comedy reading through this threads it still brings us to the same issues u guys are just too short sighted

The problem is not the oil, its the people of course not all but the small % which make up a good number, that is the problem and they are everywhere the East, West, North, south, Middle Belt, Niger Delta Noth East, South South everywhere thats the problem.

I can bet u that this contry would probabaly be the same with or without oil, it only means the amount we would have been taking about would have been far less.

Maybe the the Northerners would by now be fighting the struggle of the nIGER dELTA AND COMPLAIN OF BEING MARGINALISED because they have the highest amount of beggers on the street and generate the highest revenue from their mineral resoursec and groundnut, or the Lagosians and other coastal areas would claim the same because their people have to fend for the nation because everything passes through their coasts or what have u.

The problem is not the oil, or any other natural resources its the people we need to do something about us, me inclusive because we are the problem, if my father comes home with stolen money from the govt i would celebrate him, who cares about how many people he has denied a means of livelihood, that is the problem.

Russias economy is where it is 2day because of oil, they are solely and fully dependent on the commodity and they plenty too, so are a lot of oother countries, so u guys should not blame God for giving u oil because u never can tel what this great nation would have become without it.

trust me u are always better off with more oppourtunities whether u utilize it or not, so the onus is on us to identify our oppourtunities nd utilize it to the fulest instead of complaining about having the oppourtunity at all.

the case is like the case of a poor man with little probs blaming God for making him rich because he now has more probs as a result of his wealth.

Think about it. Oil or no oil we are our own problem and i don't think we would have been better off with or without it, that is just my own personal opinion, i don't have to be right

couldnt have said it better

lucabrasi:
forget about any book,the army can not win,
they are fighting the hearts and minds of the whole south south and even if they kill of the whole set of millitants,more are already growing up to replace them,u think the same set of people are still fighting all these days,look at asari,he s gotten rich and he opted out of the bush and already he s bn replaced

didnt you read the papers account of the guys that did the chevron thing?they r just one cell of almost 20 operating ,another dimension which i read s being slowly introduced but the millitants are denying is that some vietnamese millitary/solier whatever are aiding them with know how,weapons, u think that nicholas cage movie doesnt happen for real?there ll always be arms sellers who will sell to whoever wants to buy so for anyone believing all the government media sound bites of "smoking them out" and "they will be crushed" you have a huge suprise coming up,

what a millitary regime didnt suceed with,or obasanjo didnt suceed with its yar adull that ll now do it, plsss gimme a break

it is foolhardy to try to fight d might of a government army which is well funded ,trained and are even looking for opportunity such as dis to unleash wahala,

d nigerian army is more dan up to d task to deal with militants u forget dat dis is one agency dat has undergone a lot of re-equipping, why do u think nigerian army are always called up for peace keeping? how do u think they defeated d yomi johnsons,koromas e.t.c. of liberia?

d only thing holding dem back is dat ur presido is being cautious nt to commit d army to d same blunder dey did in odi/zaki biam

idris9090:
National theate was built in the late 70's long before now and also the bridges, if u listen to news I'm sure you are aware that the third mainland bridge is in a critical state.

i believe Dblock has answered u in dat regard,

isnt it d managers/govt agencies datshd see to d maintenance of dese infrastructure u mentioned? how oil com enter d equation?

Raimond:
Nigeria without oil=Rwanda!!!!

i still cant believe dat ppl believe this hogwash,

gongo aso:
well spoken through out. but come to think of it realistically. Nigeria without oil now now is a country without ANY resources 'because its with the oil money she has that she's even trying to use to support other sectors of the economy even the agrarian sector. so no oil money, no money to mechanize agriculture, no money to mine minerals, no money to pay workers, no money to steal,

without oil, wia we wan start from sef. how many years cocoa go take grow before we export am

Kai, kai, chei!!! bros hw u dey reason like dis? when cocoa,palm oil and groundnut where d bed rock of nigerias earnings and then oil was discovered how was d initial exploration/research funded for vis a vis drilling?

how can a nation grow at all with all dese ppl having this mind set dat without oil we cant survive?

WHAT ARE U DERE FOR? CANT U AS A PERSON INNOVATE NEW THINGS?

come on , ghana has gold and tourism boosting its economy yet when naija peeps go ghana dey always wish Naija fit dey like dat

dblock:
The only aspect of it that can be seen as a curse, is the environmental aspect, or perhaps an over reliance on Oil, apart from that Crude Oil is nothing but a Gift.

Wether it trickles down or not, resources are there for benefits it's only down to how we use them

i dont still agree with ur summation, is it d oil dat will do an e.i.a. on itself or is it d humans dat drill oil dat will do an e.i.a, plan for unexpectancies and do a proper sensitivty indexes to know emergency reponse areas if a spiull is recorded?

oil is nt d issue but d ppl dat manage it are d problem,

OIL IS NOT A CURSE, HUMAN INCOMPETENCE IS D PROBLEM

Dynast:
Oil has doomed this country

see as e easy for ur mouth, if u say oil has doomed dis nation dont forget so easily dat the bridges u climb in lagos with ur car or d national theater u take ur spouse or babes to even d abj u visit or live in where all built with the "DOOMED" oil money,

folks be reasonable even though i still maintain we can fair very well without oil but d oil isnt d problem bt d ppl managing it, dey r d problem

countries like u.a.e and saudi arabia are using there oil wealth to invest in key facets of the world econmy knowing fully that there oil reserves can only last so long. the mudabala we are praising its entry into nigeria is owned by the u.a.e. government, u.a.e. has bought over key blue chip industries in america,europe using there oil money, so what are we talking abt, and dese countries dont even have as much resources as we have.


why cant we use our oil windfalls to invest heavily in other facets /resources we have?

even if he meant "international airport" must every tribe have an airport dat flies international routes? d next thing we would need airports for every clan,

whether he got less or more dan odili is nt d issue at hand but wat did he do with d one he got?

d reason ppl are quick to call niger delta govnors is dat even with d mind boggling allocation given to dem to provide basic amenities to dere ppl dey miraculously find ways to fritter away d money and dat is a fact,

if the alams,iboris.odilis and attahs had invested at least say 20-30% of dose allocations dey got into dere states, a lot wld have been achieved but alas dere is nothing on ground to justify d humongous allocations given dese ppl.

i make bold to say dat even if u give dem 100% resource control nothing will be achieved

khufu:
fellow nigerians, we would be in hell without the oil. we have it yet we are living in squalor, imagine without! may God in his infinite mercy continue to bless nigeria.

Bros dont involve God in this matter because He has done everything He can do for us. He blessed Nigeria with oil and other varying resources it is left to us to use our God given talents to harness d resources.

if we say Nigeria without oil is "doomed" then we are admitting as a people and nation dat we can not harness other resources at our beck and call to uplift our status,

the reason the oil seems like an issue and d emphasis is on d "seems" is dat d people supposed to manage d resource are d same with d fattest bank accounts and the penchant to always put there sticky hands in d public till

we were doing very well without oil and we surely will fare better without it, as they say "necessity is d mother of invention"

forget all dis crap of "doomsday theory"

Oil was and is a blessing to Nigeria, the people dat are managing d oil are the cause of the problem not d oil,

if u think oil is a curse, stop entering National theater,stop riding ur car on d bridges in lagos and definitely if u r in abuja,pack ur ghana must go and vamoose because dey where all built with Oil money,

There is no need for all dis too much talk, Nigeria will most definitely survive even better without oil,

yes the managers of d resources have been and are still stumbling blocks to d redistribution of wealth among d populace but still if i get d title of dis thread well, the question is " Nigeria without its vast oil reserves" not "Nigeria without its people",

there is no country on earth without corrupt people the issue is making sure the right people are in places of governance while d wrong ones are in prison, chikena!!

jintujinta:
"Ki agbado too de, inkankan ni adiye nje" Before the discovery of maize chickens fed on something.

Let us not deceive ourselves necessity is the mother of invention. Nigeria can survive without oil.

thank you very much

[quote author=HR.hotness link=topic=144660.msg2424657#msg2424657 date=1214496182]I hope we never do. . . . untill the northerners leave us alone with our oil [/quote]your southern brothers dat where handling/managing d oil how have they helped solve the issues in the niger-delta? how have ur governors past and present been able to ameliorate the cases of under development spread across all the ijaw strong holds?

why has there not been development (basics like water,light) in places like oporoma,nembe,ngo,ka e.t.c but ur governors buy jets to fly sick rivers people to hospitals?

abeg make una pipe low for dat yarn

Seun:
Nigeria without oil would definitely be a poorer country. But it would have a more diverse, robust economy.

it is such alarmist statements dat have made leaders not have the urgency to diversify the economy of this nation, what kind of talk is dis? do u mean dat if the groundnut pyramids come back full stream as well as the cocoa plantations are optimally harnessed for exports dat we can not be richer than we presently are?

okay, nigeria is rich with oil today but how has dat wealth reflected in the standard of living of its people?

abeg, abeg, we have the potential to be a more prosperous country without oil , which country in africa is blessed with resources like us? we have gold,platinum(have u checked dere prices currently ?),bauxite,bitumen(for crying out loud) tantalite e.t.c.

i use e.t.c. cause they are truelly innumerable,

oil is good but we have so much more greater resources we could put into play to fast track our development

please dont believe we cant survive without oil

DRANOEL:
@poster
stop being a hypocrite

can you remember who occupied these post during obasanjo:
energy
power
senate president
sss dg
finance
national planning
nnpc
energy commission

these are the positions you listed and under obasanjo they were all occupied by southners

you couldnt have put it more succintly,

by d way shdnt d emphasis be on who is capable of running the portfolio rather on the ethnic background of d occupier?

i really believe that Nigerians have to revolutionise how dey reason cause that old "plague" of "if it is not my brother,uncle,houseboy or in-law" then it cant be good has put nigeria in a big mess over the years .

the problems seen in ministries such as d ones above mentioned by dranoel are because ethnic/nepotic sentiments are considered in making appointments rather than competence,

bilymuse:
my brothers, do not analyse issues with emotion or blind optimism. Nigeria has gone far beyond the days of cocoa and groundnuts. oil is the new reality. without oil Nigeria will look like Chad or Niger republic.

To compound the issues the ethnic groups do not like each other. the Ibo's don't want to be part of Nigeria, and they are saying it daily, loud and clear. if the opportunity arise Niger delta will break away. Take a referendum among the Yoruba's and you will get 70% vote for succession. the middlebelt do not see sense in the union, only the far north seems to be clinging because of their domination of government.

Countries that are strong and united are bind together by a common ideal and belief. In Nigeria there is nothing binding us together; different religion, culture, belief , ideas. The only thing that is holding Nigeria together is oil. when the oil finish , the party is over, and everybody must go home.

totally disagree and some exponents will further tell u dat our problem started when oil came onto the scene, all dese so called differences are just put in place by selfish,mindless politicians and to an extent so called crusaders for there own selfish gains,

the issue actually under focus here is if we can survive without oil and to dat there is a loud unequivocable , YES