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ijebosb:
I don't believe the Dems are strong enough to counter it.

Poor you then. I do believe and hope the Dems are strong enough to win the next election. Once they do, dump and his maganess is countered and dead, just like the Tea Party before it and McCarthyism before that and Jim Crow and slavery etc.

ijebosb:
Trump has effectively destroyed Trust in the Media, US law enforcement, the Presidency, and now the courts.

When Biden wins, Americans, in the majority, are stating that whatever destruction dump tried effectively failed!

mrvitalis:
[b]Anyone who don't regret keeping Nigeria one with all the obvious reality is a Fool

People are in your national Assembly chambers debating why a primitive set u share a country with value Cows over your life for heavens sake

Biafra would have never been perfect because Ojukwu contacted the Awolowo socialism virus but surely would have been better than nigeria /b]

Are there no Biafrans in my so called National Assembly, or is it that they too value cow over life and can not present any bills worth discussing?

Sorry, but I don't regret keeping Nigeria one. If Nigeria had split, you'd still be killing each other, unless by splitting you mean Biafra relocates itself far away from the rest of Nigeria, like to Rwanda area if they'd have you.

Or don't you just understand what you found?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut

Is there no memorial in Biafra land, or is Kogbara asking the federal government, whom he himself called "the enemy", to remember them?

The Hutu/Tutsi war was stopped by a neutral body, so the memorial is for both sides, which I doubt is what he's asking for. While the German remembrance of their massacre of the Jews, which he hasn't seen nor mentioned, is in remorseful regret, which the Federal Government doesn't have for keeping Nigeria whole.

Obrigardo:
One of the most underated reporting right now is the sheer amount and droves of real voters peeling away from convicted felon trump.

This election will be historic and will Mark the worst loss of any republican presidential candidate.

The maga cult and the dumbest RNC in a generation are being haughty and stubborn as ever. They are relying on their own alternative facts and disputing or outright shunning the negative influence of a felon on the electorate.

Just take a look at all the loses of maga candidates in the primaries, but they are too stubborn to see their own Downfall in real time.

I can't wait.

Looking just at contests deemed competitive by the NBC News political unit, based on political dynamics of those races and ad spending, 46 of Trump’s candidates won, and 33 lost. Of the 33 who lost, 32 of them echoed Trump’s false claims that the 2020 election was stolen.
https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/numbers-trump-backed-candidates-fared-midterms-rcna61524

tctrills:
Martin Luther king Jr did not revolt sir. Even if I don't know the meaning of revolution as you claim, we can always look into a dictionary.
They did not revolt against the status quo. They used other means of change.
Again, elections and revolution are not the same thing.
Please let's base our discussion on the dictionary. No need to extend the meaning of revolution or to revolt. Martin Luther king Jr never revolted against the American government.

A dictionary will not sufficiently educate you. Please read.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution

The Glorious Revolution is the sequence of events that led to the deposition of James II and VII in November 1688. He was replaced by his daughter Mary II and her Dutch husband, William III of Orange, who was also his nephew. The two ruled as joint monarchs of England, Scotland, and Ireland until Mary's death in 1694. The Revolution itself was relatively bloodless, but pro-Stuart revolts between 1689 and 1746 caused significant casualties, while the political movement known as Jacobitism persisted into the late 18th century. William's invasion was the last successful invasion of England.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution

tctrills:
Nice philosophy but I don't believe in doing things that don't work.

I guess you wouldn't do anything then, since you have no guarantee anything you do will work until you do the thing and find out.

tctrills:
According to you, man should revolt against his God. But I ask, to what point?

The wise Igbos will tell you that if they say yes and their Chi does not say yes with them, they will get another Chi.

No, I am not telling you to revolt against your God. What I am telling you is that no god should threaten you with death if you nourish yourself with knowledge, and any god who tells you to remain naked and enslaved and ignorant should be revolted against.

Go study Jesus Christ. His entire teachings can be summed up as "eat the fruits of knowledge so that you can free yourself". Unfortunately, most listen to their pastors instead who enslave you into tithing.

tctrills:
There are better ways to improve society, ways that actually work. There is no science behind a revolution. It's just a careless act with an undetermined outcome.
Mary Slessor did not stop the killing of twins via revolution.
Martin Luther king Jr did not lead a revolution.
Apartheid in South Africa did not end because of revolution.
Slavery was not abolished via revolution.

You obviously don't know what a revolution is, and likely think it means fighting and killing, despite telling you that democracy is a peaceful way of revolting that was introduced to avoid revolting by fighting and killing.

Take Martin Luther King Jr, and Gandhi. What they did was precisely a peaceful revolution against the status quo, which did result in positive change. And Apartheid would not have ended if the entire world had not joined in to revolt against white minority rule.

tctrills:
The British freely gave us our independence. We had zero means of obtaining our independence from them.

Are you for real, or is it that you don't know your history?

Even after we revolted and gained our independence in 1960, they still had control of us and our resources until we revolted again by introducing our Nigerian Enterprises Promotion Decree 1972 as amended in 1977, which finally freed us from them.

tctrills:
As for June 12 1993, it was an election not revolution. Big difference.

Yep. You definitely don't know any history at all, which is a great pity.

https://saharareporters.com/2013/06/12/nigeria-six-year-revolution-june-12-significance-and-lessons-working-class

tctrills:
So the Nigerian independence was not a product of revolution. It just happened with the change in times. And it led to a very corrupt democracy that ultimately ended up in 2 coups and a civil war that millions were killed.
Please sight a better example.
And there had never been a Nigerian revolution against military rule.

Nigerian independence was precisely a revolution against the British master, and June 12 was indeed a revolution against military rule, but if you don't think we are better off ruling ourselves and our democracy despite current hunger, then all I can suggest is you go fill the gaps in your history.

As Samuel Sharpe once said when he revolted, “I would rather die upon yonder gallows than live in slavery".

tctrills:
Yes and like Eve, we continue to revolt against God each time we sin. Not really a good thing.
Bro, revolutions bring negative outcomes nine times out of ten.

Not revolting is like telling alimanjeris in the North who are kept ignorant to be content with their ignorance and enslavement.

A God that tells one to remain ignorant or they will die if they acquire knowledge must be revolted against because it is not knowledge that kills, but ignorance and the lack of knowledge.

In fact, that Eve story was written precisely to ensure you don't revolt against your masters by making you believe the lie that revolting would result in you surely dying on the day that you eat thereof. And as you can read below, they did not die on acquiring knowledge but lived to almost a 1000 years.

That said, I feel you. Some, I guess, like being oppressed and enslaved. When some people wanted to revolt against their slave masters in America, some slaves reported them to their masters and they got whipped and sold. Funny thing is, Americans revolted against their master Britain, and have now become masters of the world just live Eve did

I would rather revolt and die than be a slave and eat, while some would rather eat than revolt and be free to provide their own food from the sweat of their own brow. That's probably why Nigerians did not revolt and elect a different party at the last election. Only thing is, their not revolting has now resulted in them being hungry.

tctrills:
None of the revolutions you mentioned made life any better for the people and that has been my point.

And your point is incorrect. The people who revolted, including us Nigerians who revolted against British and military rule, and history, would tell you their revolution made their lives much better than it was under those they revolted against.

tctrills:
Even Nigerians have revolted many times. It's human nature to revolt but I was comparing them to France who changed their monarchy.
Message was, Revolution do not necessarily make society better.

Nigerians have not revolted many times. What we do is protest, and that is not the same as a revolution, which is the successful uprising of the people and a change of the status quo. If we want to consider our revolutions, the revolt against the British for independence would be one instance, and June 12 that resulted in democracy would be another. The Biafra War would have been a third, but it was unsuccessful, and would be a revolt, but not a revolution per se.

As for revolutions " not necessarily making things better", that depends. Many would tell you Eve revolting against the lie that nourishing herself with knowledge would result in her death was not better, but the evidence, that she and her husband became self-employed and went on to populate the earth, and lived for almost 1000 years, is better in my book, but I guess that might be because I abhor slavery.

tctrills:
You mean the Chinese revolution, the Iranian revolution, the Egyptians revolution, Russian revolution, the Venezuelan revolution, the Libyan revolution all made their societies better?

China, Egypt, and Russia have had many revolutions throughout their history, and they definitely did improve the societies for many of their people, you'd find if you studied their histories before and after. I'll list a few at the end for you to read. The lot of the revolters were always better than it was prior to their successful revolt.

tctrills:
A more accurate definition of revolution would be, a forcible overthrow of a government or social order, in favour of a new system.
And we have seen many I. Nigeria. It does not work.

You seem to be mixing a coup, which Nigeria has had many of, with a revolution of the people, which Nigeria has not had any of unless you want to count the revolution that gave us our independence.

The Russian Revolution was a period of political and social change in the Russian Empire, starting in 1917. This period saw Russia abolish its monarchy and adopt a socialist form of government following two successive revolutions and a bloody civil war. The Russian Revolution can also be seen as the precursor for the other European revolutions that occurred during or in the aftermath of World War I, such as the German Revolution of 1918–1919.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Revolution

The 1911 Revolution, also known as the Xinhai Revolution or Hsinhai Revolution, ended China's last imperial dynasty, the Qing dynasty, and led to the establishment of the Republic of China. The revolution was the culmination of a decade of agitation, revolts, and uprisings. Its success marked the collapse of the Chinese monarchy, the end of over two millennia of imperial rule in China and over 200 years of the Qing dynasty, and the beginning of China's early republican era.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1911_Revolution

When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
Genesis 3

tctrills:
Revolution do not necessarily make society better.

I think you mean protests do not necessarily make society better.

A revolution is a successful protest that changes the status quo, and by nature, it does make society better.

Blaze14k:
It can only get to a point we're Nigeria will break up. Pdp handled our differences quite well and APC made a mess of it

Personally, I don't believe Nigeria will ever break up, and nor do I believe it will solve our problems, since we'd still, in our break up, elect the same leaders as we do now.

But even to get to break up point, we'd still need to have suffered to the point where we'd elect leaders who would break us up, and that is not going to happen anytime soon.

As for your "PDP handled our differences quite well", I can only but sadly say Chibok Girls and dollars in soakaways and Deziani, to mention a few of their handlings for you to consider, and ask if PDP were not Nigerian politicians you claimed I don't understand.

Blaze14k:
Bro honestly you have no single idea.. you are so naive

I love the respectful way you are telling me I am ignorant while I am trying to educate you.

When we Nigerians are tired of the external force of hunger, I am certain you'd either change how you think and choose your leaders better or die of the hunger and suffering they serve you.

I just can't accept you'd always be so helpless or that your great great..... great grandchildren will be helpless, not all the way up till 3024.

Blaze14k:
If you understand the way our politicians think honestly it's better you focus on something else. I have done stuff with some of them and I know how they reason. My dear you have no idea how bad these people are..

I think you mean "if I understand the way our people think", since our politicians don't come from Mars but are just people like you and I.

Point is, after we elect politicians who continue to increase our suffering and hunger, we would eventually open our eyes and elect better leaders or suffer and die.

The choice is entirely ours.

Emeka511:
What marvels me more is that this girl look so classy with very large hips..

You saw big cow in the abattoir and put knife to it thinking it got fat on drinking only water, it seems.

Guess you'd learn how much it cost to feed it eventually .

tctrills:
You did not get the sense of what I was talking about.

Perhaps not, but your claim that the English did not revolt is false.

The English in fact adopted democracy so their citizens can peacefully revolt at election if they so wish to.

I very much doubt they'd be so stupid to do what has been found to fail.

The gold standard was largely abandoned during the Great Depression before being re-instated in a limited form as part of the post-World War II Bretton Woods system. The gold standard was abandoned due to its propensity for volatility, as well as the constraints it imposed on governments: by retaining a fixed exchange rate, governments were hamstrung in engaging in expansionary policies to, for example, reduce unemployment during economic recessions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gold_standard&oldid=1227488239

Where Did God Come From?

Gods come from the amazing ingenuity of the human mind, and shows how creative we can be.

Blaze14k:
Bros what you are saying is very far from reality. Nigeria can never attain such height in fact it will take the effort of external force to make a change if not it will never happen

What you are saying is, "we Nigerians can never do what is required to attain such heights", and I strongly disagree with you, though I do agree with your "effort of external force".

Suffer and hunger are external forces which I have faith our leaders will increase over time, and I have faith that our suffering and hunger will make us change or die.

Projected date of change, 3024.

I think the fact you haven't filled this post since Sep 2023 should suggest to you that you are not offering a good enough pay or the post is ill designed.

A person with CorelDraw skills wouldn't be a secretary. And if they do they'd soon leave for a better post and pay.

https://www.nairaland.com/7846455/front-desk-computer-operator-coreldraw#125897146