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stevnwigw1:
Yes, but capital money to start. For example, I can breed catfish, which can give me lots of money weekly. Where will I get money to get at least half plot of land, fence it, dug borehole, erect my hatchery tanks, buy broad stocks, buy ovaprim or ovatide, before I start cashing out every week. That is the problem. I have had this knowledge since 2014 but have nowhere to get seed capital to begin

In advance, I apologise for the harshness.

The above shows me that you don't have the required knowledge. Knowledge includes experience, you see. And you gain experience by doing, which you have not shown you have done since 2014. You even lack the knowledge to achieve the first step in your project above, which is get seed capital.

Investors are like, it is your fruit that we shall invest in and not your seed, but you haven't got any seed yet, and expect to just say you have knowledge and be given the money, which is manna from heaven thinking if you asked me. I mean, how would investors get return on their money if your seed does not germinate and produce fruit?

A smarter person would have used the knowledge you claim to have to get work in a 100 plot fish farm to earn a decent enough wage to save up their own seed money to first rent the things you need until they have earned enough to buy what is needed. But you likely haven't even got a business plan!

Again, harsh, hence apologies.

basilico:
Look like without your input, I hold the same views as Hyde.
Imma genious

So, do you see the lie in your statement, that government funds abortions, when they haven't since 1980?

When we say, 'my body my choice', it includes 'my money' too. Because, if we decided to wait for government to pay for it, they might not pay at all or pay in the 10th month.

bemeruca:
How do you advocate for my body my choice for abortion but not for freedom of speech? Why do you want people to be free to have abortion but not be free to have freedom of speech?

I am not against freedom of speech. I am against you claiming to use your so called freedom of speech to knowingly tell lies about others and thereby make life miserable for them.

And that is why I buda sitting as the judge and the jury in the State of Connecticut in the United States of America that has a First Amendment that protects freedom of speech found Alex Jones conduct particularly reprehensible and harmful, and fined him one billion dollars so that you know and are deterred from using your so called freedom of speech to spread malicious lies about others.

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1115414563/alex-jones-sandy-hook-case

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/02/1115269280/sandy-hook-alex-jones-trial

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/10/12/alex-jones-sandy-hook-shooting/

basilico:
Govts should not pay for abortion unless its for medical emergencies. Or incest or rape.

You need to educate yourself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Amendment

helinues:
https://www.nairaland.com/8038722/current-education-system-modern-day

Are you telling me you are one of if those "skool na scam" people?

helinues:
You need to get a degree, after degree, master, PhD, HHC, NNPC while wasting years away working for those who designed the same education system.

You can't possibly have degree, master, PhD and think education is worthless. Only people who barely have school certificate think like you reason in that thread, as has been pointed out to you there.

helinues:
Hahahah, are the civil servants not graduates? Servants was added for a reason now..

A nice way of saying slaves, I guess. It makes the minimum wage strike sound like a please don't beat me strike.

I guess we need to fight to abolish slavery at some point, and here we are.

helinues:
Africans mentality about job after graduation is white collar job. Not even aside business after that even upon how creative we used to claim

For minimum wage after graduation?

Anyone who accepts minimum wage after graduation did not learn anything, and should go back to school for more education. They also need to realise that the world is big instead of limiting themselves to Nigeria.

The question I would rather ask is why would anyone settle for minimum wage when there's lots of skills that can be learned to maximise ones wages?

Do people need to settle for minimum wage when they can learn and maximise their wage potential?

ijebosb:
ANd the truth is repeated propaganda works, ..

I think you say the above based on the sort of magas here who love their conspiracies.

Most will do some research instead of just believing the maga propaganda they are fed.

Yemaya:
Most sensible comment so far

You are one of very few people who actually understand that comment, so I have no choice but to follow you.

SuperOnyi:



This means Nigeria has always not being easy , anyway it'd take a miracle for me to line up and vote for anyone especially on federal level.

Yes, Nigeria has always not been easy.

In the 1950s, my father would walk 7 miles to Osogbo from my village, then all the way to Ilesha to get to the grammar school. And he had to return every Friday to work on my grandfathers farm on Saturday and Sunday.

As for you not voting, I can only hope the miracle does happen so you not only stand in line to vote, but before then, encourage your friends and family to get their pvc in advance too and vote. And while you are standing in line that you record what you see too to deter those organising the election from rigging it.

Its our country you see. And no one but ourselves can redeem us.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO9m6PHO_nw?si=n_0IOMmUmgAGjpoq

GBTYO:
They are not Christians.

These are the same people Solodu said have become apostates of the church and have been converting to voodoo worship

Do you expect a Christian to reason like these heathens?

I hope Christians do not reason like this. They wouldn't love their neighbours, but just kill them and claim their God told them to.

Scarcity234:
Drunk fowl, unity beggar of a failed country.
And, you're nothing as your opinion nor help is not needed to effect any decision.

You're nothing.

You must be something. And my hope is that you become a lot more in due time. Hopefully you'd by then learn to make your opinion and help needed and effect many decisions in your life, since charity must start in your own heart, and in your country.

StraightGaay:
Israel shouldn't be distracted, they're doing the lords work, doing away with terrorism and restoring worlds peace.

Israel is doing the lords work by killing children?

I guess your lord must like the human sacrifice then, though I can't see how that eliminates terrorism and restores world peace.

It looks like some people don't like the Agbado we elected.

Holluwhakemmy:
2023 election really turned Peter Obi to something else. He just want to be on news doing unreasonable things up and down

Don't mind that my Obi.

Why can't he be like Agbado who is doing reasonable things that is making Nigerians smile.

Let me know when you decide to stop being Nigerian so I can consider contributing towards you moving your Biafra to Rwanda.

The fewer stupid people we have left in Nigeria, the better we'd become.

Scarcity234:
You're the obvious stupid fowl can't even understand what the rubbish it spills.

Worse is thy you think you can play me.

You're very dumb and ain't what you think yourself.

Drunk fellow.
Read the rubbish you spilled again when sober.

They are not smiling because our leaders are clueless and lack vision

They really are clueless if they haven't yet realised that they elected the leaders that are wiping the smiles off their faces.

In fact, since we don't realise and don't seem to want to smile, I am now going to consider no more being the obidient that I am and campaign for the Agbado insyead!

Vote for Tinubu in 2027 please! Smile na scam

pdppower:
You will gladly vote for him again. Why then are you complaining? Be ready to continue wallowing in hunger.

The turkey is voting for Christmas, lol.

SuperOnyi:

It's dedicated to people who have never had to go on fasting for weeks because they had nothing to eat and break it with a bread, akara, and plenty water.

Chai! Those days!

I would starve all day and eat small eba at night with lots of water to fill me up so I can sleep. Then one day, a friend came crying that his hunger pass my own, and I ended up sharing my small eba and water with him for years.

I'm talking 1984-88 here, after I realised that my eating is not to be left to the sweat off the brow of some politician, but the sweat off my own brow. Never starved since.

All I can say is education, and pvc. And hope those starving learn to use both wisely so these times may pass for the starvers.

ijebosb:
Do you think slavery should have been left up to the states to decide?
In fact, states rights was the very argument used to try to prevent the end of slavery by Southern States.

And then we fought a war. And slavery is not even left to a country these days not to talk of a state.

Slaves couldn't just up from those states and go to states where there were free people like I can take my body out of a state that wants to own my choice, so sorry, I don't see them as being the same thing. When they run after me and jail me for my choice, we can equate them then.

In fact, I would love those who want to own my body to be stupid and jail me for my choice so I can Rosa Park their stupid asses or even go to war, though I feel the majority would vote them out long before then or a Biden might put my body my choice in to the constitution.

In fact, the way the world is currently leaning, I wouldn't be surprised if one day in the future, my body my choice isn't eventually a right enshrined in the world constitution just like antislavery is. I just hope its sooner rather than not soon.

ijebosb:
A lot of people disagree.

And isn't that why we have democracy, to sort out what we do despite our differences and disagreement?

ijebosb:
The Supreme Court size is a norm. The question is what do you believe is more important, protecting a norm of 9 justices and lifetime appointments, or protecting people's rights such as a woman's right to have life saving surgery.

The supreme court said the state should decide whether to protect people's rights such as a woman's right to have life saving surgery, which means the majority people in the state get to decide whether to protect people's rights such as a woman's right to have life saving surgery. But in the current end, it boils down to my body my choice, since no one can stop me leaving a state where I am in a minority and go to a state where I am part of the majority. That, is democracy at work.

Now, if Biden would do me good, he'd put my body my choice in the constitution so states can't take over my body. But I guess he'd find it difficult getting past federalism and state autonomy.

ijebosb:
I believe that Education is the foundation of a Democracy. A lot of people in the US aren't getting that education.

Now, that's a pity, that a lot if people in the US aren't getting that education.

Happened in Nigeria too by the way. A lot of people did not get educated by Buhari's APC hardship and elected Tinubu's APC who is now educating us on his own even worse hardship.

I hope we learn, but if we don't and behave again like turkeys voting for more APC Christmas, I guess we'd just be repeating the class and our education continues, I say.

ijebosb:
The problem is that a majority of the US could get it and Biden wouold still lose as our elections are based on the Electoral College. And the spaces with the unfair electoral advantage are the least educated.

Its gerrymandering. And it makes USA seem undemocratic in my view. But it is at it is until we amend the constitution I'm afraid. Pity Biden isn't looking to change it already

ijebosb:
yes there are vast amount of Americans that are stupid and get easily fooled by misinformation. And those tend to be the loudest voice. It's the truth. And this thread isn't the outlier you think it is.

Loudest voices, but still one vote each. And yes, this thread isn't the outlier. I got Newsmaxx, Infowars, OAN and Fox on my telly talking the same ignorant stupid qanon 2000mules rubbish, and there's many on Twitter and a reddit and that dump's failing Lies Social. And almost half the country showed they are stupid, so I ought to know this thread and others like it here aren't outliers. My hope is they continue to be the minority they were at the last election, and the next election would let me know if they are or not.

ijebosb:
Though we have free speech doesn't mean we can't stop protecting those who spread it.

I don't want to protect those spreading lies. What I want to be done is have them charged to court and be found guilty and fined a la Alex Jones and dump and Guiliani and Sidney Powell and Bannon et al. I gain much pleasure when the jail time and money they are being asked to pay results in them going bankrupt and imprisoned.

ijebosb:
Biden begging Meechan would be political interference.

I know it is. Still, as soon as dump is jailed by Merchan, Biden should beg the state governor for dump's release. The humiliation would make my day.

ijebosb:
As head of the Executive Branch, Biden's duty is to enforce the law. The DOJ falls under him. It's been norm that the President walls himself off given them independence, but Attorney General reports to him, so untested because of the Norm, but many people believe the President can dictate prosecutions.

See above where I am asking Biden to illegally jump over the wall and free dump, lol.

I'd hate it though if Biden jumped over that same wall and weaponised the DOJ to prosecute dump.

tctrills:
I think you have so watered down the meaning of revolution that anything can be seen as a revolution.

If that weren't true, I'd be here arguing that the so called Iranian revolution was just a coup, but since some call it a revolution, arguing it isn't would be ridiculous.

tctrills:
You happen to be doing two things at the same time. You have watered down the meaning of revolution and complicated at the same time.

This earns my utmost respect.

Revolution is a complex word. Its why I offered the more complex wikipedia definition and not just some simplified meaning from a dictionary. The wiki shows the complexity and the varying meanings of the word while also showing the various arguments about what constitutes a revolution.

Its in the eye of the beholder. I mentioned Eve as an example of a revolutionary person, but you said she was just being disobedient. The objection to South Africa's apartheid was a revolution, but some call those revolting terrorists. Jesus Christ was a revolutionist, but he died in the process. And when we consider the outcomes, like the millions who died in China's Cultural Revolution, you see it as bad, while many look at China's resulting rise today in envy. That, is how complex this is.

Anyway, after all that. Thank you very much for the interesting respectful discussion. You are appreciated.

Scarcity234:
You're just childish.

So if I child seeks to break away from a family to start his own because of his dislike of how he's being treated, he will automatically resort to doing things that would cause his present family to fail?

This is just stupid! And it shows you have comprehension issues and a reasoning deficiency, and are not worth responding to.

When you fix your issues, hola then.

basilico:
I know its wrong to talk ill of the dead, did Alex Jones shoot them for them to get such an award.

Literally speaking, yes he did shoot them.

Instead of letting them grieve their losses, he intentionally lied just as you do here, and rallied his troop to verbally shoot them too, and is now paying for it.

Seriously, I doubt you have him on your telly. If you did you'd know how sick he is. Actually, scrap that last bit. If you knew how sick he is you'd likely know how sick you are.

The best was watching him cry and beg you all week to buy his diq hardener. Best comedy ever it was, and very much made my day.